What Does QB Coach Jim Caldwell Bring to the Ravens?
With quarterback, Joe Flacco, now entering the prime of his career, the Baltimore Ravens have decided to bring in a fresh face to work with the soon-to-be 5th year veteran as well as former collegiate stand-out, Tyrod Taylor. To this day, controversy still surrounds former Ravens quarterback coach, Jim Zorn, and why he was released after seemingly helping Flacco to his best statistical year. After leaving the quarterback coach position vacant this season, the organization was happy to welcome Jim Caldwell into their ranks.
During Super Bowl week, former Indy head coach, Tony Dungy, took a few minutes to answer questions that varied from becoming a member of the media to how he feels about Peyton Manning’s health and ability to still play football.
During the interview, Dungy had his take on how Caldwell can help the Ravens, saying this:
"Jim will be great for him (Flacco). He’s the best quarterback coach I’ve ever been around, and he did a great job here (Indy) for me, helped us to a Super Bowl and I know that’s going to be his goal in Baltimore."
(Read more what Jim Caldwell might bring to the Ravens after the 'Jump')
Now, I don’t know Dungy personally, but coming from the former head coach, that’s a pretty strong endorsement. Dungy, who’s known as a man of strong convictions and beliefs, doesn’t seem like the type to take his words lightly and won’t say anything he doesn’t truly believe himself.
How instrumental Caldwell was in building Peyton Manning into what he is today is a hard question to answer. No one can answer that but Caldwell or Manning himself. It should however be viewed as a good thing that Caldwell was able to work so closely with one of the all-time greats. If anything, it’s obvious that Peyton Manning has perhaps the best grip on modern offenses out of any player currently in professional football.
From watching Indy’s offense with Manning running the show, it’s not a stretch to assume that as Ravens fans, we’ll see some of those offensive principles come here to Baltimore via Caldwell. We could see some of these new principles installed in the offense in the future: lots of hurry up play calling, shorter timing routes, more audibles at the line of scrimmage, more usage of tight ends, and more shot-gun formation. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see some of these ideas work their way into a Ravens offense that is in serious need of a system re-boot. Simple little things like the use of shot-gun formations and hurry up sets could make a world of difference.
One issue that was clear this year among the offense was communication. Something so simple as everyone not being on the same page can be devastating. Hopefully with Jim Caldwell here to bridge the gap between Cameron and Flacco, the offense as a whole could run smoother, much like what we saw while Jim Zorn was wearing purple and black. Another thing to keep in mind is that Peyton Manning has some of the best quarterback technique ever seen on a football field. From his posture, foot movement, quick release, and ability to read a defense, I’m hoping that Caldwell will bring some of these ideals to Joe Flacco and the offense. It can only help.
Although the questions will always be raised about how much Caldwell had to do with the elder Manning’s success, Manning did say this about Caldwell:
"He’s been very influential on me. Very detail-oriented. Very disciplined. He’s really helped me."
Even though those words are very few and lack real substance, Caldwell’s track record is a good one. He was very instrumental in the development of Kerry Collins at Penn State and spent a year coaching Brad Johnson with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And of course, he was Manning’s quarterback coach for three out of the four years in which Peyton won the MVP award. Though his track record may speak for itself, the Ravens brass decided to get inside information on Caldwell from around the league before hiring him as expressed by John Harbaugh:
"We had a chance to do some research around the league and also just with him directly, and to me, it became very obvious – and to all of us it became very obvious – it's a perfect fit as we go forward. It's going to be the best thing for everybody, offensively, and just for the growth of our offense."
Hopefully Jim Caldwell with be a positive addition to the Ravens. With his knowledge and experience, maybe he is just what the Ravens’ offense needs to take off and realize its full potential. After all, there’s a reason he’s been called a "QB Whisperer", right?
With so much controversy surrounding Peyton Manning and Indy, here’s a parody video on how Coach Caldwell and Manning ran the team while Manning was still suiting up.
WARNING: Video contains some language that may be considered inappropriate for certain viewers.
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Has anybody watched the video yet? I thought it was pretty funny. Hope you all enjoy it.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions
Brilliant video …Caldwell is the next victim of Cameron Harbaugh ineptitude
by Evan Skev on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Zorn is an excellent coach…working in a dysfunctional system and then termed.
by Evan Skev on Feb 9, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Im not denying that zorn is a good quarterback coach but I feel JIm Caldwell is better.
I am aware that Zorn helped Joe Flacco but I think the ravens still wanted something more from a quarterback coach which is why they fired him.
The Ravens had no choice but to make Cam and Craig Ver Steeg the quarterback coach because their was no one out their better at the time. I believe Jim Caldwell is definately alot better then Cam, Jim Zorn, and Craig Ver Steeg at being a quarterback coach
huh?
They wanted something more from a QB coach so they fired him without replacing him? Mkaes zero sense.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 9, 2012 12:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
huh?
They wanted something more from a QB coach so they fired him without replacing him? Mkaes zero sense.
First let me say what is mkaes? that definately mkaes zero sense. Second the ravens did replace Zorn which is why cam and Craig ver steeg became the quarterback coach.
I feel like the ravens didnt think Zorn could help Joe Flacco evolve to the next level to where they think he can be and since there was nobody else on free agent market( plus there was a lock out last year) whom they felt would be best for Joe Flacco, it put them in situation where they had no choice but to go with Cam and Craig.
I truly believe Jim Caldwell is what the ravens really want from quarterback coach and he is the one to help Joe Flacco evolve to the next level.
If
mkaes is a typo for makes. come on jazz, i dont get on you for your rampant spelling and grammar issues.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 9, 2012 4:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
agreed. And right when Flacco is hitting his prime
This could be fun
Flacco has the wrong OC and he plays in the wrong system… It doesn’t matter who bisciotti pays to be subordinate to the Harbaugh/Cameron tandem… You’ll be seeing the same vertical scheme and double reverse psychology playcalling instead of a system tailored to Flacco’s strengths and playcalling tailored to down, distance, and game context.
I know I’ll get flak from people who will give the coaching staff credit for team accomplishments and I can respect that perspective but I’d like coaches who maximize the potential of a team instead of creating bottlenecks in production by misusing human resources.
by Evan Skev on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You’ll be seeing the same vertical scheme and double reverse psychology playcalling instead of a system tailored to Flacco’s strengths and playcalling tailored to down, distance, and game context.
I have no problem with seeing such things because the same system definately didnt keep the ravens from winning the division or wining against the patriots. I think there will be change within Cam system this year and it has already been said that Jim Caldwell will help the ravens will their passing attack .
If it doesnt happen I wont be mad because the ravens have still been to the play offs with the same type play calling and you be crazy to blame cam for the play off losses
Management has a responsibility to put labor in a position to succeed. Cameron and Harbaugh fail as often as they succeed.
by Evan Skev on Feb 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Ravens are
arent you the same person that said this
Management has a responsibility to put labor in a position to succeed.
so if the ravens are 49-24 in harb era doesnt that mean Harbs has helped his team to become successul? you said management has the responsibilty to put labor in the postion to succeed ….. hmmm I rest my case
Judging by the W-L, they succeed far more than they fail.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 9, 2012 4:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Win loss is only one part of the equation. You must extend your analysis to include identifiable subsets such as level of talent along with level of competition and account for any injuries. You must also take a close look at statistical rankings of the offense and defense and examine any correlation between the percentage of payroll spent on each phase of the football team and the respective performance of each phase.
by Evan Skev on Feb 10, 2012 4:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You must extend your analysis to include identifiable subsets such as level of talent along with level of competition and account for any injuries.
Hmmm, lets see. We were top 10 in scoring this season and had a top 3 defense. Seems to me we were using our talent VERY well.
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Those are two parts of the picture …for sure
by Evan Skev on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It’d be crazy to blame Cam for the playoff losses, BUT what about, let’s say that JAX game? Let’s play the ‘what if game’. Our D was playing great that game. But the offense never got off the plane that night. We didn’t do anything to put points up. We have to get better at in game adjustments on offense. There wasn’t any reason to lose to a far inferior team.
If we win that game, that’s the one AFC game we needed to clinch the #1 seed in the playoffs and home field advantage throughout.
It’s those little things early in the season that towards the end become major, major issues when playoff seeding is in play.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 9, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hindsight is 20/20… But we can give as much credit to the schedule as we can give to Cameron… I know.I’m not a pro football genius but I’m baffled by how the FO is so committed to D yet allows the HC to support an OC who runs a system that demands a higher share of resources
by Evan Skev on Feb 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cam’s from the old SD Coryell coaching tree. It’s what he knows and maybe it’s all he can/wants to run. I have no idea, but I’d like to ask them, haha.
With Torrey here and either a healthy Evans or a soon-to-be drafted #3 speedy WR, this system can work. SD wrecked our defense with it. If executed properly with the right personnel, the Coryell can ruin a D’a day. Looks like we’ve got lots of time with Cam left to figure out what he’ll try next.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"
by WestminsterRaven on Feb 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
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et’s say that JAX game? Let’s play the ‘what if game’. Our D was playing great that game. But the offense never got off the plane that night. We didn’t do anything to put points up. We have to get better at in game adjustments on offense. There wasn’t any reason to lose to a far inferior team.
I think youth and inexperience played its part in that game( on offense) but i could be wrong. I just felt at that time the ravens would had won against the jax if they had heap and mason on the team as the starters instead of Dickson and Smith.
I agree the ravens have to get better on offense with playcalling but the players on offense have to get better to.
Being young has its good and bad. You’re right about that. What’s good is that most of our receiving group has no where to go but up, and with time to gel and work together we could really see some great improvements.
As far as the whole Mason, security blanket for Joe, thing. I think Pitta is going to take that role. Joe and Pitta work really great together and catches nearly everything. With a full off season working together with Pitta as a full time starter I expect that “the white tight end” will become Joe’s go to guy when in trouble or needing to get a 1st down, much like when Mase was here.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not Mason again!!!
"Picture Me Rollin"
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 9, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Flacco has the wrong OC and he plays in the wrong system…
Though I doubt you’ll actually answer, I am attempting to ask you an honest/serious question.
What type of system do you feel would be better for a QB like Flacco?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
youre a pitt fan from new jersey
by Evan Skev on Feb 10, 2012 4:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
You’re okay Skev, you’re okay.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 10, 2012 9:51 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
What type of system do you feel would be better for a QB like Flacco?
Cameron’s system isn’t wrong for Flacco so much as it is for our offense as a whole. For his system to work, you need an offensive line that is great at both pass and run blocking (we’re obviously lacking here), tons of speed at receiver (outside of Torrey’s very surprising contributions this year, when have we ever had speedy receivers that didn’t suck in the Harbaugh era?), and a running back that excels at running up the middle (Rice is great, but he’s not going to bowl over anyone when the line isn’t getting it done). If each individual part of the system is clicking, our offense really takes off. It’s just that Cameron’s system really requires every part to be working perfectly to prevent the whole thing from stalling. That’s why our offense frequently operates hot and cold, and it can rarely be attributed to Flacco.
To actually answer your question, I’m guessing that a form of the West Coast offense (perhaps similar to that run by the Patriots with Randy Moss) would be more likely to put our players in the best positions to succeed. An offense that leans heavily on quick pass routes would mitigate the pass protection problems we’ve experienced with our offensive line. It would allow us to move from mostly I-formations to pistol and shotgun formations, in which Flacco is obviously more comfortable (he played primarily from the shotgun in college) and from which Rice runs very well. Smith showed that he’s not just limited to one or two parts of the route tree this year, so he’d be useful short or long. A lot of Boldin’s later success in Arizona was the result of using a horizontal pass offense to clear space in the middle of the field, allowing him to break his defenders tackle and gain substantial YAC in open space (something that Cameron’s system rarely did). New England’s scheme this year showed how a solid tight end duo can dominate in that kind of offense.
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by Ampallang on Feb 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This. Amp you officially have my vote for OC.
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"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
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Now that you bring it up, I have a couple interesting takes on the reverse I’d like to see on the field.
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When they fire me mid-season, they can bring in raven to institute the quarterback-by-committee he’s been talking about for years. Tyrod Taylor on first downs and third-and-short, Flacco for the rest.
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This
To a T.
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Thank you. Very detailed. Do you think Flacco could run a N.E type of system well enough to succeed? Some have criticized him (on here) as always being locked in to whatever his first read is. Doesn’t New England’s system sort of…find the hole…?
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Some have criticized him (on here) as always being locked in to whatever his first read is.
That’s not something I’d agree with, and I’m fairly certain that the people making this claim can’t cite any reliable sources with the same opinion (writers at the Sun most definitely don’t count). On the other hand (and to be completely hypocritical, because I won’t be digging up any sources of my own), I heard Flacco being praised on a number of occasions this season for going through all of his reads prior to making a play or throwing away the ball. I think that a lot of this critique comes from years past, wherein I believe Cameron was running a one- or two-look offense. Basically, Flacco was instructed two look for his first — and maybe second — option, and then dump it off to Rice if nothing was there.
Do you think Flacco could run a N.E type of system well enough to succeed?
I see no reason to think otherwise. Flacco has showed that he can play very well from the shotgun in a sugar huddle, making bullet throws into tight windows all over the field. He plays some of his best ball in the hurry up offense, which seems to incorporate more of the quick read passing plays of the typical West Coast offense than Cameron’s typical offerings.
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by Ampallang on Feb 11, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On the other hand (and to be completely hypocritical, because I won’t be digging up any sources of my own)
For some reason I found this to be pretty damn funny.
As far as the topic, I can’t seem to find Ravens games in the spot that I normally find games, so I’m going off of memory. I could see both sides of this argument. I do believe I’ve seen a little of both. But I have to believe that the fact that Rice had 76(!) rec this year would say that it’s not entirely true.
So, if I’m to understand correctly, you guys really don’t see a way for Joe to blossom fully until Cam is out of the picture? Or, at the very least…have someone telling him to change the way he does things or face being dumped in the harbor?
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I think Flacco during his rookie campaign and into his second season, like a lot of young quarterbacks, may have had a tendency to lock on, and that may have been by design as Amp suggested, but he has evolved past that and does seem to go through his reads like most normal NFL QB’s. Should he/could he do it quicker? Of course, but that is nitpicking.
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"It's big for a reason."
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I hate the Idea that Caldwell's job was easy because of Manning.
To me, that speaks to fans having a poor understanding of the game. Manning’s success did not happen in a vaccum; Caldwell was clearly a very important part of it. Great plaers get that way because of great coaches and making themselves coachable. Manning didn’t win a Super Bowl by telling Calwell, “shut up I got this.”
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 9, 2012 11:05 AM EST via Android app reply actions
The point of the video is that coaches have weeks or months to put players in a position to succeed… and still fail…often. great players know where they’re supposed to be and what they’re supposed to be doing. Having an average coach with an outsized ego is a detriment… See harbs/cam
by Evan Skev on Feb 9, 2012 11:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. While Peyton would have been great with or without him I feel I certainly believe Caldwell was of some help to him as well as picking up some things from him he can teach to Joe. Dungy recently talked about how important Caldwell was for Peyton’s development and how smart he is. This is an excellent hirer.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
That’s not how I feel at all. I think it’d be silly to assume Peyton wasn’t influenced at all by Caldwell. The reason I wrote this was to highlight the good. I think he’ll be a good addition here. I think he could really help Joe read defenses to a T, and def. help with technique. Peyton has some of the most sound QB technique ever. I’m looking forward to see how he can improve the offense.
The video was just for fun cause it seems like a lot of people around the NFL might feel like Caldwell was only successful cause of Manning. I just thought it was hilarious….the Gaga part was great.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 9, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
What Does QB Coach Jim Caldwell Bring to the Ravens?
Hopefully Peyton Manning….
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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 9, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nah. I still believe in Flacco. I hope her can progress even more next year. I have no doubt that he will win at least 2-3 superbowls in his career. I do however see him being a late bloomer like Elway.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 9, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Whether or not Caldwell influenced Manning, Caldwell had a chance to watch one of the greatest QB's practice and play every single day.
He’ll no doubt bring some great pointers to Flacco in terms of mechanics, techniques, reading a defense etc. I really hope we keep Evans with a restructured salary. Flacco needs continuity in order to grow. I think he’s going to have a great season!
Hilarious video, thanks!
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Evan is probably the only Ravens fan to moronically call the organization “dysfunctional.” Wow…no wonder no one takes him seriously.
by JoshuaStein on Feb 9, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I say the tandem of HC and OC creates a dysfunctional atmosphere. If the FO continues to support said tandem then I’d say that the entire organization is dysfunctional.
by Evan Skev on Feb 10, 2012 4:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I say the tandem of HC and OC creates a dysfunctional atmosphere.
I say you and frankwyt create a dysfunctional atomosphere lol
If the FO continues to support said tandem then I’d say that the entire organization is dysfunctional.
I feel like you dont know what you talking about but hey its going to be some people that dont like John Harabaugh, dont like cam, or dont like the direction of where the ravens are going but its cool

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