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Mike Wallace in Purple and Black ?

I know many people have been linking restricted FA Mike Wallace of the Steelers to the Ravens. Personally, this could go either way. Yes, while Mike Wallace is perhaps the best deep threat in the game, would the Ravens entertain throwing their first round pick to the Steelers and also signing him to a long and lucrative deal? Based on Ozzie's history, I lean towards no, as he has made it clear that he covets draft picks. Still, wouldnt it be pretty sick to see Mike Wallace make a game winning catch at M&T for the Ravens instead of the Steelers? I know many people would love to see that, especially if it came against his former team, say in late December.

Lets hear what Ravens Nation thinks ?

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Should the Ravens give up their first round pick for Mike Wallace ?
No, we have too many other people to sign (Grubbs, Rice, Flacco)
97 votes
Yes, he's easily worth a first round pick.
90 votes
Its a pipe dream
75 votes

262 votes | Poll has closed

The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!

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He’s a proven pro WR and this is a chance to weaken their offense but we already have a better version of Wallace in Torrey Smith. Where Wallace fails in his third season, Smith has excelled in his rookie season. Smith runs more/better routes and displays more toughness. Wallace is a one trick pony whit doesn’t show a lot of toughness. It’s been easy for opposing teams to make him disappear.

by Evan Skev on Feb 21, 2012 7:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Sometimes, I wonder if you even watch football.

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Tell us more…what else do you wonder about

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why not just ask him

I’ve read some of your football articles… You have a bright future in sports journalism

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t want a future in sports journalism. There is no money there.

But, if it were up between you and I, I know I would get the job over you in a heartbeat. Your writing is similar to a 6th grader.

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If it were up between you and i …

Never mind…

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Please, go on.

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you’re a useless fuckface, now go self serve yourself

by klompus on Feb 25, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you French kiss your mom with that mouth, internet tough guy?

Impressive stuff from you, world, Stephens and pava…

Now…about that salary cap, restructurings, and borrowing from future seasons to get under the cap now. Baltimore is $15M under the 12 cap after cutting fox Carr & Evans and Williams retiring. pitt was $25 M over before restructuring.

Is one of you pitt trolls capable of discussing the ramifications of this type of cap management without resorting to name calling or would you like to bring an uncle or older brother to give you a hand….

Anytime…waiting patiently

by Evan Skev on Feb 27, 2012 6:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd be glad to have a cogent conversation with you...

…pertaining to cap management. However, just as I refrain from banging my head against a brick wall in a futile attempt to knock it down, I hesitate to have a conversation with you on this, or any other topic, because you have failed to (1) acknowledge when any team other than the Ravens do anything positive; (2) can’t objectively discuss Raven related issues, or (3) get off your high horse.

If you are able to overcome these obstacles, begin the conversation….

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by PaVaSteeler on Feb 27, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy gatorade bath batman!!

So this is where you go to express yourself!!

by IronJake on Feb 27, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting Tebowed precludes trash talking, my black & yellow bud

by Evan Skev on Feb 27, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Shanking a 32 yd field goal to tie an AFCCG...

…doesn’t give you much room to talk either, but your response is exactly what I was talking about.

If I believed you wanted to have an actual conversation, I’d look for a response…but given that I know you don’t, don’t bother.

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by PaVaSteeler on Feb 27, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you think of any difference between how and where Baltimore lost and how and where pitt lost?

Show us how bright you are…

by Evan Skev on Feb 27, 2012 8:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What does that have to do with cap management...

…take your ADD medicine, what does that have to do with the subject you invited us “pitt trolls” to discuss?

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by PaVaSteeler on Feb 27, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, look whose Trolling now!

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by PaVaSteeler on Feb 27, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

If you think this is going to have an effect on me think again.

Grow the fuck up.

by IronJake on Feb 27, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Typical. At least you're consistent.

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by PaVaSteeler on Feb 27, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

whatever this is between you

we don’t need it on here.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 27, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem...

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by PaVaSteeler on Feb 27, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

pitt troll romance on a Baltimore board…pretty cool

Still waiting for commentary on either of the points I made…though I’m not sure a conversation can be cogent, we can look past that.

Tell us how great the pitt FO is… And how pitt’s destruction at the hand of Tebow was so good… Take your time

by Evan Skev on Feb 28, 2012 4:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lol, yeah, because that’s what I was referring to. Exactly.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 28, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

All of the Above

Yes, he’s easily worth a first round pick, but since we have too many other people to sign (Grubbs, Rice, Flacco), it’s a pipe dream.

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by Fandemonium on Feb 21, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

No, no no!

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2012 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

One trick pony!

I agree, not worth it. Especially since Doss has shown promise as well as L. Williams, lets see what the Ravens have first before they go out to sign a WR.

by Bill2448 on Feb 22, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what your last blind date said.

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by raven on Feb 21, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt it, as much as Ozzie covets 1st rounders

…Mike Wallace is perhaps the best deep threat in the game…

I think he’s good, but “the best deep threat?” I don’t think so.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 21, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

It’s either him, D-Jackson or possibly Torrey. That is my top 3.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 21, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright Cris Carter, where’s Calvin Johnson on that list?

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by El.Dude on Feb 22, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Megaton is the all around best WR in the game. He is the best at every aspect of the WR position.

But when discussing those guys who are just the speed demons who at any given time can just blow past everyone, it is those 3. (yes, I know Megatron can do that as well, but he isn’t human so he doesn’t count)

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 10:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Name a better deep threat right now

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Demaryius Thomas

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

2011 Season:
Thomas: 32 rec, 551 yards, 4 TDs
Wallace: 72 recs, 1193 yards, 8 TDs

Thomas had 3 TDs of 20+, Wallace had 5

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Thomas has one important stat… Can you guess what that stat is

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, was he on a team that went to the Superbowl?

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Most hot dogs eaten in 12 minutes?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 12:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Torrey Smith.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

See above Wallace stats

Torrey: 50 recs, 841 yards, 7 TD

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Considering this was only Torrey’s rookie year (which was better statistically than Wallace’s) my guess is that Torrey could be on his way to being a more accomplished WR. But I’m sure that’s all just ratbird chatter. Torrey had a better YPC also (barely lol)

Top 2 in the league, let’s just leave it at that.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The question was who is the better deep threat right now. He could be on his way to a better career, but I’m not going to pretend to guess if that’s true or not.

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you really on a Baltimore blog showing off your black & yellow shades…

Wallace is a one trick… A drop machine… He is far from the best deep WR…

Is he the fastest? No…

Are you a homer?

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That drop machine has back to back 1,000 yard seasons with 18 TDs. That’s hardly a one trick pony.

And is he the fastest WR that’s actually got talent? Yes.

Wallace ran a 4.33
Torrey ran a 4.43
Desean ran a 4.35
You’re boy, Demaryius runs reportedly as low as 4.38 (official was a 4.52)

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Wallace is one of the fastest but he can’t run all the routes and he is easily pushed around… And he drops balls

You can cherry pick stats all day… whatever suits your argument.

And Thomas’ most important stat is postseason receiving yards… He abused Taylor

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hmmm, which is it?

Is he the fastest? No…
Wallace is one of the fastest

You’re back tracking.

Wallace actually greatly improved his routes this season (if you watched him play you would know this). That’s a big reason his y/r went down. He started to get a lot of yards on comeback and crossing routes. I won’t argue he doesn’t get pushed around some, but that’s the sacrifice you make when you give up size for speed. Also, notice that Torrey drops the ball a lot too and so did Welker and Victor Cruz. I don’t see anyone making a deal about those latter two. That’s because it’s not that important and only people making ridiculous comments blow it out of proportion.

I’m not going to argue that Taylor had an awful day, but that’s irrelevant to comparing him to Mike Wallace.

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Roddy White led the league in drops. He isn’t one of the best WR either…

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

…Um… Yea, he kinda is…

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by oVecKid on Mar 13, 2012 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know this. #Sarcasm…

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by Mr MaLoR on Mar 13, 2012 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Onky a bandwagon pitt fan would come to a Baltimore site and argue that a WRs improved route running resulted in them having less yards per reception.

He is fast…no one argues that… But his route running is average and so are his hands. You don’t have to accept these facts but they remain facts.

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You’re too dense and lacking in any form of football knowledge. I can’t have a conversation with you. Good day.

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by John Stephens on Feb 22, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

God bless your soul.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

An ad hominem argument is a great way to win a debate… ajd you have malor and jazz to back you up… Great company

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Malor and Jazz

You are correct. They are great company.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

We agree

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by… Next time you visit be sure to make a contribution, if possible

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m new here. What does it mean when a comment turns green?

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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

asshole is too kind, assholes can still be lovable. this guy is just a waste of egg and sperm entirely. he cant comprehend that if a one trick pony goes to a two or three trick pony and the former one trick was the deep ball that y/r are going to go down

by klompus on Feb 25, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m confused now.

How many tricks are we talking here? Where’s ‘John’ when you need him!!

by IronJake on Feb 27, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

4 drops in a season is a drop machine?

You set some very tough standards.

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we had 3 or 4 players exceed that number.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

4 actually. Rice, Dickson, Boldin, Torrey all had more than 4 drops.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

All pretty good players

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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

lots going on behind the raw stats

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s some Alex Lensanity talk right there yinzer

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

don't you mean

LINsanity? lol couldn’t resist

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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Terps have the best big man in the ACC.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad that hasn't equated

to a bunch of wins this year

But ya’ll have a good young team, although the ACC belongs to NC State next year. Best. Roster. In. The. Conference.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 23, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Trading away a 1st is definitely not Ozzie’s style, especially since we already have a deep threat, and we’ve never had much trouble containing Wallace in the past, so the “weakens the Steelers” argument doesn’t pull too much weight.

by Major Major on Feb 21, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

Bench Dickson and sign Hines Ward.

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by raven on Feb 21, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Wign Sines Hard

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 22, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

RayRay retired wines… He may give it another shot in Arizona

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Evan Skev, we have been able to contain him for the most part, but he did beat Cary Williams last year in Pittsburgh for what was the go ahead score.

Had flacco not drive them down, he would have had the game winning catch. Wallace does not run crossing route or get too physical, but he ll give 1-2 great deepballs, yes Torrey could potentially be a better version of Wallace, but imagine him and torrey on opposite sides, teams would get destroyed by boldin, pitta, and dickson in the middle.

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by sethg28 on Feb 21, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

I’m with you… He is very fast and Flacco is a better QB

Who knows how good Wallace could be with Flacco delivering him the deep ball

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

only as good as his ability to come back for the bomb

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by raven on Feb 23, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This doesn’t make sense for a bunch of reasons.

1) If we want a 10 mill / year WR, just pay for one on the open market and save our draft pick.
2) This doesn’t hurt the Steelers in the long run, it would probably help them. They lower their cap, and they get a cheap 1st round draft pick for 5 years. They also don’t have this same dilemma next year with Antonio Brown. they can just pay him and not worry about two huge contracts at the WR position.
3) We probably wouldn’t be able to pay all our young stars, like Webb, in the near future.

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by El.Dude on Feb 22, 2012 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed. Some forget Webb is a restricted FA as well. If we don’t get a deal done with him then a team could try and steal him from us as well. If we get Wallace that will eat up our cap and if someone then tries to go after Webb we would risk losing him.

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by AV23 on Feb 22, 2012 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

all of this

is highly agreeable.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 22, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Cap goes up a lot next season while the individual team cash floor goes into effect… The result will be a lot of dollars to spend

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea, just doesn’t make sense for us. Pitt could turn their two 1st round picks into two quality O-Lineman, which might mean less sacks for Suggs and Ngata, the Pitt Killers.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

1) If we want a 10 mill / year WR, just pay for one on the open market and save our draft pick.

It’s not gonna take 10 million a year to get him. Only more than whatever Pitt can match/any other team offers him. Because of having to give up a first rounder, there probably won’t be any 10 million per year offers to him, unless it’s from a team like the Bengals with 2 1st rounders.

What if we could give up the first rounder and get him for around 7 million a year? That would definitely be something to consider.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 22, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

But I still wouldn't do it

need our money for other things, and don’t want to give Pitt a 1st rounder. Any other team….maybe.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 22, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Wallace still has to accept the deal. He could turn down the 7 million / year offer and just play out his current one year restricted deal.

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by El.Dude on Feb 23, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

very true

but a lot of players just want to get paid immediately

by YeahDonnie on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a pipe dream...

…but wow, would that be awesome. Kinda like thinking about winning the Powerball.

In reality though, our offensive line was looking like an overweight pile of crap on far too many occasions last year. Re-signing our FAs and shoring up the O-Line has to be the focus right now, if we’re playing the long game.

Even that may be more difficult than it sounds though with noises coming out that Ray Rice is asking for an Adrian Peterson style deal . That would be in the tony neighborhood of 7 years/$100 Million. Obviously this sort of asking price would necessitate the franchise player tag being placed on him. But it goes to show we have some big time needs to address not named Mike Wallace.

Fan-dabby-dozy.....tastic.....

by Jonny Pops on Feb 22, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

O line needs some attention…Fo sho

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No

I fear it would restrict us too much cap-wise.

I posted this before- I believe we are just an adjustment here and there away from The Big Show. A big splashy FA would be overkill.

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by vlad755 on Feb 22, 2012 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

And why give Pitt a 1st rounder?

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 22, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Exactly!

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"It's big for a reason."

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by vlad755 on Feb 22, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. Not gonna happen. Like someone else said in another post, if we are going to spend big $$$ on a WR, we would do so through FA. There are still plenty of equal (if not better) options at WR in FA without having to give up our 1st.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Even if he was a UFA, I’d say no, and hell no if we have to give up a 1st as well as major $$$.

by DT711 on Feb 22, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

If it would upset the crybabies in Shittsburgh and the bandwagoners far and wide, do it. I don’t see it happening, though…

by JoshuaStein on Feb 22, 2012 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

The point is to improve a championship caliber team while further weakening an already weakened opponent.

Someone else is going to do this dirty work for Baltimore. I hope it’s SF.

pitt will try to cut payroll by restructuring rothlis, harrison and releasing wines, snack, farrior and a bunch of other people… They can then tag wallace, resign him to a backloaded deal and resign whoever they want from the vet cuts while leaving room for the rookie class.

I think they’re stupid for trying to reload…again… They need to cut the weight and rebuild for a season. In either case, I’m thrilled…

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Their reloading strategy has worked out pretty well the past……40 years or so. Wouldn’t you say?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the opposite of what I said but you’re welcome to make an argument supporting the strategy. Looking forward to reading it

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The more Pittsburgh keeps restructuring salaries and “backloading” contracts the deeper they’ll find themselves in the hole for years to come. Sure they’ve had a tremendous track record of rebuilding, but all good things come to an end. I got to agree with Evan here, there’s only so much Colbert can do to disguise how screwed they are financially.

by StuckInUtah on Feb 22, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m not impressed with them.. let malor try to support his argument… It should be fun

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think they’re stupid for trying to reload…again…

So you didn’t say it was stupid for them to reload?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And frankly, I don’t care enough about Pittsburgh to waste my time writing about how top notch their front office is. Their record and recent Superbowls speak for how dumb smart their reloading strategy is.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ideally, you’d back up your trash talk with fact. In this case, I can see how you’d want to backpedal and speak out of both sides of your mouth.

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What trash talk are you speaking of? I still don’t get what you want me to prove, that they haven’t reloaded in previous years?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Go back and read… I’m confident you can follow the conversation if you focus

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I doubt it would upset us too much. I can only imagine the wondrous things the Steelers could do with two first round picks.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 22, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, if you kissed that organization’s ass even more than you currently do, we’d have to find you a new pair of lips!

by JoshuaStein on Feb 22, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, we might hate them

but if you don’t respect what they’ve been able to accomplish both recently and in their history, there’s something wrong with you.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 22, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Gee, then I guess there is something wrong with me…

by JoshuaStein on Feb 22, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, there is something wrong with you. Most of us over at BTSC don’t like the Ravens but we are, for the most part, mature enough to respect what you guys have done.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 22, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If you don’t ever go over to that site, then how would you know that part is laughable?

by worldtrip on Feb 24, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I know that “fan” base…

by JoshuaStein on Feb 24, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Say what you want about the Steelers fan base, but when he says that most of us over at BTSC respect what the Ravens have done, he speaks the truth

by worldtrip on Feb 24, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What a nimrod…even ‘trolls’ his own fan site!

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)

by Andy34 on Feb 24, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes perfect sense, douchebag…

by JoshuaStein on Feb 25, 2012 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Once again...

you’ve raised the intellectual standards of your discourse.

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)

by Andy34 on Feb 25, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah? Nice!! It’s easy with a “person” like you, though…

by JoshuaStein on Feb 25, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

“Person”? What, do you think he’s an alien? lol

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by John Stephens on Feb 27, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

technically speaking

I would qualify as an “alien” but I am not into trolling or trash-talking.

anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 27, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's OK, John!

He’s 12.

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)

by Andy34 on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

0 respect…and enjoying watching them.flounder now… You may buy into their arguments about how great they think they are but i don’t see it… And I make my arguments to support my claims… Their troll responses are invariably childish name calling with support from some of the more interesting Beatdown boys

by Evan Skev on Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ou may buy into their arguments about how great they think they are but i don’t see it

Because you’re obviously mentally ill. You can’t argue with the success the Steelers have had both recently and in the past.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 22, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You obviously can’t argue in favor of it… But I’m not wasting my time with you, am i

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You obviously can’t argue in favor of it

Actually, I can. We have two Super Bowl wins in the least seven years. Boom. Done.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 23, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t kiss their asses at all. I hate Pittsburgh just about as much as anything out there. But I won’t sit here and agree with statements that make us look stupid for questioning their success over the years.

They play good football, top notch football at a level that we have not been able to touch lately. Sure, we swept them, but how much did that accomplish for us? When they were whooping our asses, they were either winning or getting to Superbowls.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Malor, are you really this clueless … Starting to think you are

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And now you’re calling MaLoR clueless? Child please.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

its funny how they eat their own when big ben doesn’t get a few 3rd and 28 hail mary’s to put them in the SB…or arizona allows harrison to chug 99 yards or steal a TD from seattle or have ben make a lucky tackle on a bus fumble or have a TD to derrick mason called out of bounds or ………

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by raven on Feb 23, 2012 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

want to know what’s funny about that comment? All those “lucky” things we did to win cheapen it right?
Think about that for a minute……

Now, think about the Ravens in the time since the Steelers got their two lucky runs. 05-now

Count those “lucky” plays by us. Then, go count how many your team couldn’t move forward because they couldn’t make routine plays. They couldn’t even manage the basics at crunch time.
Compare those numbers if you would.

Boldin’s drop? Housh’s drop? McGahee’s fumble? Flacco’s int?
This proves the theory that people create their own luck, and that luck is preparation + opportunity.

by Evans Kev on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 AM EST up reply actions  

You prepared by creating a very cool new name so you can troll a Baltimore forum.

Very cool

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 6:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The only Luck we need is Andrew Luck.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Living in the past….typical Steelers fan for you. Maybe you didn’t notice your teams recent collapse, but that’s ok. You’ll get a reminder next season as well.

Its funny though. If the Steelers go further than the Ravens, then that’s all we hear about from the black & golf bandwagoners. But when the Ravens sweep Pittsburgh (and the division) and go further in the playoffs, the yinzers are so quick to cling to their past glories and triumphs. Give credit where credit is due….you got owned. Can’t wait for next year!

by StuckInUtah on Feb 23, 2012 9:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t mind Frank, he is a special person.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Is he? So by “special” do you mean that if people challenge his viewpoint, he doesn’t sissy out and say he don’t want to talk about it? Like when you wanted him to believe that writer was anti-Ravens, but he and other people offered differing viewpoints? then you were sick of talking about it?

I hope he’s not special like that. That would suck

by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

You made a fake name to get back on a blog. And I was ruining BTSC, right? Don’t worry, you’ll be gone soon.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 25, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It wasn’t so much “to get back on a blog” as it was “all this hate is just because you guys don’t know him as a person. If you’d just crack that rough exterior, inside is a marshmallow of a teddy bear, but you gotta work for it….you…….gotta work for it”
Man, get over yourself, just ignore me. I didn’t do anything to you (unprovoked)

by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

You must be the most awkward, pathetic, and socially inept guy that someone could ever meet in person.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 26, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, poor kid. He’ll be gone soon as well.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 26, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Malor is on internet message board fire!

Can I buy you a beer in downtown Bmore so I can see what a dweeb you are?

by Evan Skev on Feb 26, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’ll take a Fat Tire.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 26, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Name the bar…any wknd

by Evan Skev on Feb 27, 2012 5:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maceo’s in Mondawin. Really nice neighborhood.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I worked at fremont & harlem for four years… Mondawmin is like pac heights

by Evan Skev on Feb 27, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fat Tire

Totally overrated, but it still beats Bud Light.

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State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel

by Ampallang on Feb 28, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Overrated he says…

Go through about a case a week

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 28, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Get some Lagunitas and never look back.

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State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel

by Ampallang on Feb 29, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Try their other beer

1554, it’s bomb

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by John Stephens on Feb 29, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

We got owned

it happens, congrats

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 23, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a minute now, why the stock response of living in the past? Go up and read the beginning of this comment tree. He claimed luck, I offered a response to his ridiculous claim (sour grapes). You seem to have this “ready response” for anything that conflicts with your views.
How does this relate to this year? This is an overall statement of the two teams. We got “lucky” while you guys got “unlucky” by making crucial mistakes. This is not an attempt at anything other than to counter what Evan said. You guys won this year, great. I acknowledge and respect that, but since both of our teams have one ultimate goal, I’d call us both failures in the grand scheme of things. The Lions were happy to win 11 and make the playoffs, that’s not the mindset of either of our teams.
The point is, trying to claim “luck” is stupid as all hell, especially when the “unlucky” team really just couldn’t do the basics. (catching the ball, holding on to the ball, throwing to a guy with the same colored uniform as yourself)

by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

DahmerWyt, stop stalking us please. Getting really creepy now.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 25, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I think there is a psychological term for your angle, but, I’m sure you know what it is. You obviously have the wherewithal to compare two psychological profiles that share no similarities. And why? Because you go a little overboard with your passion? That’s your answer? Why don’t you stop with the hypocrisy of claiming others ruin your blog, when you are an equal party in each “issue”.

by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

So, how is what I typed more “living in the past” than what I responded to? The premise was that the Steelers were lucky at a certain time, which obviously wasn’t this year..so…what’s that time called? the…the what? oh, the past. Unless of course, Harrison’s return happened this year, but I don’t think it did.

by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

lol, i like this guy

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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Run along John, grownups are talking.

by StuckInUtah on Feb 23, 2012 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why are you here then?

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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Get your excuses ready. Last season pitt was beaten by the browns, indy and chiefs…save for some horrid coaching and a couple overthrown balls, pitt is 9-7 and misses the playoffs. Baltimore outclassed pitt in both games and went farther in the playoffs…this after Baltimore’s FO took advantage of a soft schedule to release it’s top offensive performers from the previous season while pitt did……nothing.

Wake up, homers. It’s a shame malor and co are in love with your team and too stupid to call you out on your BS…your organization is second best

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Do you ever get tired of being somebody that no one likes?

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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re correct… You, malor and your internet buddies are “no one”

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, this comment is enough to work on that ban once again. Shame you hadn’t learned. Didn’t you beg and kiss ass to Bruce through numerous emails in order to get a 2nd chance at commenting here.

Tisk tisk, hope you enjoyed your time.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t you beg and kiss ass to Bruce through numerous emails in order to get a 2nd chance at commenting here.

wow he really beg to bruce to come back lol

by jazz20 on Feb 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Wikilinks, I needs some entertainment. I’ve got a job for you.

daytime commentator. night time ninja.

by El.Dude on Feb 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

South Park referrence?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Last season pitt was beaten by the browns, indy and chiefs

Wasn’t that 2 seasons ago? And we lost to JAX, Seattle and Tenn. So you shouldn’t be talking. At least Pitt was losing to really good team last year, while we were making a fool of ourselves on national TV by Blaine Gabbert and crew.

this after Baltimore’s FO took advantage of a soft schedule to release it’s top offensive performers from the previous season while pitt did……nothing.

Pitt went 12-4, same record as us. And this was with a HUGE amount of injuries to key positions.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

we had the same schedule baltimore did except, we played the pats when ya’ll played the jets and we played the Cheifs when ya’ll played the chargers.

I don’t know why he has to make the Steelers out to be the raiders but the ravens don’t need to do that.

The Ravens are a class organization in their own right, their success over the last 5 season can only be topped by a few teams in this league, Pats and Steelers. You don’t need to make the Steelers look bad, Evan, to feel good about the Ravens. The Ravens are good regardless.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

I thought it was us Bandwagon Yinzers that were supposed to make the excuses. I’m so confused now. Do I say Flacco is actually a good QB now? Da hell?

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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's the offseason

we can actually show our respect, once summer hits, I’m sure this kind of talk will be non existent

by YeahDonnie on Feb 23, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

And what exactly did you accomplish....

by and went farther in the playoffs…
? A loss to a Patriots team that had one of the worst defenses in the leage? Another failed attempt to even reach a Super Bowl?

The one year in the past (how many?) that you get past the Steelers, and you shank it wide left.

Might want to take your own “homer” glasses off Skev.

I’ve got plenty of respect for the Ravens, especially Ozzie, and, your standard attempt at sophistry notwithstanding, many of the posters here. The Ravens/Steelers rivalry is unparalleled in the league right now, and should be enjoyed while it lasts, by both sides. With such a rivalry comes a mutual (if not grudging) respect for the other team, by real fans of football. And then there is you.

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hate reading this. Even with it directed at Evan, hurts to read how right it is.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It was honestly, and truly...

…directed only to the Skevil. I have too much respect for the Ravens organization, and many on BB here like you and (formerly 88 keys) to post this as a “troll” thing.

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

A missed kick hurt…for about fifteen minutes.

You guys are pretty fortunate that malor is leading the charge here… He seems to be a closet pitt fan

Looking forward to watching Baltimore while your bandwagon asses again in 12

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But the missed opportunity haunts you Skevy, doesn't it...

…the groan emitting from your throat as the ball sailed wide left, drowning out the echoes of the “sweep, sweep” in your head.

watching Baltimore while your bandwagon asses again

yinz are going to “while” us again? I can’t seem to remember being “whiled” by Baltimore, or anyone else for that matter.

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 23, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the fact that this season all of you can only take a modicum of solace in the fact that Baltimore couldn’t close the deal after Flacco did everything necessary to win on the road…in the playoffs…….again. The fact that this is occurring after a Baltimore division sweep and after Tebow shredded pitt and sent them packing makes it a tiny bit sweeter.

The fact that you don’t realize how miserable you sound gives me great pleasure. Let’s continue to duke it out vía net while you troll a Baltimore blog. We appreciate the traffic.

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I feel sorry for Bruce’s inbox when he bans you again.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for sharing that…good shit

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i have no respect for our organization but M&T is where my season tickets are legally accepted. i spit on our offense, tooey tooey, they make fools of themselves all the time. they are leaderless and stupid. but i watch. i watch because that is what i do after drinking in a rat infested parking lot for 5 hours. but never ever mistake me for one who comes to watch our offense. the more thier on the field the more piss breaks i can take.

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by raven on Feb 23, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

klompus?

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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 23, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

second best? that means we are better than the losing team in the SB?
So where does that put you? You have to be somewhere behind that team that lost in the Super Bowl, that team that beat you. Your ranking system is strange.

by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

It took me a sec to figure out why this made sense, from my pov.

anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

rices fumble, harbaughs non reviews, flaccos fumble, asshole mccallisters shoulder ping pong tackle for a TD………and yes, we are the most chokiest team on earf.

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by raven on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

For one…I think we’re a little hard on Mr Skev. He’s opinionated…maybe a little too much but regardless opinionated.

For one…we should not bring in Mike Wallace. He’s an above average receiver yes. Not elite in my eyes as he leaves alot to be desired in some points of his game. Talented yes. Fearless no. And the combination of those are needed for him to up his game/ test the middle of the field more often and overall become a better reciever. I don’t believe in stocking up on the same type of reciever. We have Torrey Smith. In football X’s and O’s especially in the Air Coryell system he fits in his place and while Boldin would be better in the slot theoretically, with the way Cam runs the system theres no sure way Mike Wallace would fit in and be used to the best of his abilities here.

In terms of Pitt being a top notch organization…lets not lie or overlook things. They simply are. They are a contender almost every year, they’ve won quite a few super bowls in our lifetimes alone and overall have been the bane of the Ravens organization since inception. To not give respect where respect is due is simply ignorance. It’s fine to hate a rival team…but..at the same time how can you not respect someone who has gotten the better of you time and time again?

I love my mom, my girlfriend, nachos and the Ravens. In that order. Except on game days. Then it's subject to change.

by Trip_like_Me on Feb 23, 2012 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

I think we’re a little hard on Mr Skev.

You come to a Baltimore blog and troll those who hate Evan? What a yinzer.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re a child, malor… You can’t follow a debate that doesn’t conform to your narrow views… And when you’re challenged, you threaten to ban… Let me.remind you that you own nothing here… This is a Baltimore blog and you’re a pitt sympathizer… Pretty gnarly

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Keep it coming!

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Now this is getting interesting.

by StuckInUtah on Feb 23, 2012 2:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Stop or he will tell dad

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey Skevy...

..if your idea of MaLoR , who is a knowledgable fan of the game of football, who gives credit where credit is due to opposing teams, pokes holes in the arguments of (to use one of your favorite phrases, which is more appropriate on the DBN site) “bandwagoners”, homers, and those who espouse nonsense, regardless of what team’s site he is on, then what possibly could be your definition of a person such as yourself, who displays so little football intelligence, but talks real big about stuff he can’t back up?

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for your pitt opinion. I’m sure your intent is honorable here. Since malor can’t come out and thank you in public, I thank you for him.

Good stuff guys…

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I have no idea what a yinzer is.

California guy. Sorry. However, I’m not trolling, whatever that is. I’m just stating my own opinion. Please don’t attack me for having an honest opinion. I don’t do that to you and expect the same respect in return.
And I’m usually on this blog. Little known fact that I’m a Baltimore fan however I haven’t been on for awhile because the internet in Afghanistan sucks.

I love my mom, my girlfriend, nachos and the Ravens. In that order. Except on game days. Then it's subject to change.

by Trip_like_Me on Feb 23, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

who you with

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 23, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I was joking. No biggie.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 23, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You will get attacked if you don’t participate in groupthink.

What part of cal

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm with Comm Squadron 38

And I’m from San Diego

I love my mom, my girlfriend, nachos and the Ravens. In that order. Except on game days. Then it's subject to change.

by Trip_like_Me on Feb 23, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Get that ass home

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

word up,

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

This should end the wallace debate even though must agree it won't happen.

"There’s going to be some restricted free agents that we would like, but is it going to be worth giving up a significant amount of cash and cap and a draft pick?," Newsome said at the Ravens’ season-ending news conference. "When you deal with that double-whammy, even though the rules have been relaxed, you just go, ‘Nah, no, I wouldn’t do it.’ That’s just my philosophy."

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

It’s easy to say that this is Ozzie double talk…but It’s difficult to come up with a plausible scenario to support that view. There are teams who have the need, cap space and draft pick to make a play for Wallace. There are other teams who can make an early offer that is reasonable yet still putts pressure know the pitt FO. It’s going to be interesting watching the gamesmanship. I see Wallace headed to Cincinnati… They have the picks and the cash to pay him up front. The cash floor is in effect after this season so does brown save $10MM this year or does he make himself a hero by giving dalton the best WR tandem in the league? Makes sense to me

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not my cash…so give it up. How about T.O, Ocho, Moss and Ward…they can play with our oldies Ed and Ray. 1 year tour.

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by raven on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

rothlis restructures…this gets him a very large check and frees lots of space for 12. The pitt FO is going to now make cuts and tag Wallace so he isn’t exposed. They can then negotiate a long term deal with his agent.

They are making a lot of moves to retain Wallace while neglecting a more pressing issue – the O line. Lots of uncertainty there…and that’s good for Baltimore.

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They’ll fill out their O-line through the draft, which is risky, but it’s nothing new to them. I’m surprised to see them going all out for Wallace though. I know they don’t want to lose him, but by all this restructuring, aren’t they just delaying their players big paydays? Even with the cap rising each year, how many contracts can backloaded before it comes back to bite them in the ass?

by StuckInUtah on Feb 23, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s an example of the type of restructure that helps both a player and a team, as exemplified by the rothlis restructure:

Player is due $1MM in salary for 2012
Team converts $900K into bonus money
Team cuts player a check for $900K

The trick is that 100% of a player’s salary counts against the cap while the bonus is prorated over the length of the contract… So on a six year contract, that $900K of salary is converted into a $150K cap hit saving the team a considerable amount of space

The problem: this is fantastic as long as a player can contribute until he completes the contract. If not, the team gets stung. In rothlis case, they restructure him to keep Wallace instead of buying him a real LT… when he gets knocked out again, he team loses. We won’t even go into how he holds the ball too long and refuses to check down… That’s for Haley to attempt to correct.

This is another Baltimore victory…pitt is in the hole and gambling the rent to keep pace with a Baltimore team that is in excellent shape due to excellent management

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 9:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

they restructure him to keep Wallace instead of buying him a real LT

The steelers most likely will be looking towards the draft for a left tackle

by jazz20 on Feb 24, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they are looking at Marcus Gilbert, which I’m not a fan of. I think he makes a good guard or RT, but he’s not athletic enough to be a LT.

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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

NICE

go out and grab him!

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 26, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He is already on their roster. He was the OL out of Florida last year.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 26, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry this made me laugh

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by Steel34D on Feb 27, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he’d be offended if I actually grabbed him. Maybe I will just poke him on FB?

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by John Stephens on Feb 27, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

So, you’re seriously questioning whether a player you know in your heart to be without a doubt the best quarterback in the division, can contribute for the last two years of his deal?

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by Evans Kev on Feb 25, 2012 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

More rothlis restructure detail:

His base salary for 2012 has dropped from $11.6M to $900K. With four years left on his contract, it means that the $10.7M guaranteed payment will create $8.025M in cap room for 2012. By doing so, it will add another $2.7M in cap charges for 2013, 2014, and 2015.

So they add $11M to their payroll for four seasons that haven’t been played in order to get $8M in space to tag wallace.

Russian cap roulette.

by Evan Skev on Feb 23, 2012 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess steelers fans get tired of hearing how good they are on their blogs, so they have to come here and talk about how great of an organization they have

The squeelers got tebowed, when you lose to tim tebow, you have not right to talk, just shutup and take all the shit u got coming ur way.

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by sethg28 on Feb 23, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Bored Bills fan here checking other random sites

and this makes too much sense not to happen.

Ya, I know I’ve heard you got a great blossoming deep threat in Torrey Smith. But are you telling me you wouldn’t want to run 3-WR sets of Mike Wallace / Torrey Smith / Anquan Boldin? You’d have two home run threats on either side, and the FS can only shade one way or the other. If they leave both Ss back there, then Ray Rice has lots of running room with one less player in the box. With his cannon arm, giving Flacco two explosive deep threats helps more than giving him another over the middle WR.

Mike Wallace is one-dimensional deep threat? Doesn’t matter. So is Lee Evans. He still managed to put up just shy of 1300 yards when he actually had a QB that could get him the ball. Mike Wallace may be one dimensional but you have the right QB to take advantage of that dimension.

As for giving Pitt a 1st? You’re giving them the 29th overall pick, hardly in the can’t-miss region of the 1st round. With the 29th pick you’d be “drafting” a sure thing in Mike Wallace, a player that isn’t going to bust. You know how he’s performing already, and he probably has at least 5 great years before he even starts to decline.

Pitt would be left taking a gamble with the 29th pick whilst the Ravens would be getting a sure thing, 1st round worthy WR.

Anyways, just my two cents.

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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 24, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

Mike Wallace is one-dimensional deep threat? Doesn’t matter. So is Lee Evans.

so why not just keep Lee Evans ? Whats the purpose of getting another one dimensional deep threat when you already have one who wont cost you your first round pick.

by jazz20 on Feb 24, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

And Evans has zero negotiating leverage and a million reasons to have his best season in 2012. He knows how much he’s hurt his reputation this year and he needs to be here in Baltimore to redeem himself.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 26, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

No chance we do it at all. Wallace would eat up our cap room and create more holes than he helps. We have a decent number of people we need to sign and Wallace would elmintate bringing them back.

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by AV23 on Feb 24, 2012 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

And last time I looked, Mike Wallace isn’t helping in the pass blocking department.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 24, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s your take on Stevie Johnson and his situation?

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by El.Dude on Feb 24, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The media, who has a stake in making controversy, is exaggerating the situation. I’d be very surprised if Johnson wasn’t a Bill next year.

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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 24, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

and this makes too much sense not to happen.

No, it does not make too much sense to happen. Is he a great WR? Damn straight he is. But having to give up a first round pick for him while also helping out a team that we face twice a year on top of paying Wallace top notch money, it does not make sense.

Like we have been saying around here, if we are going to pay big money for a premier WR, we would do so through this rich FA croup before we traded away our 1st round pick.

0% chance this happens.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 24, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

while also helping out a team that we face twice a year

That depends how you look at the situation.
If you tendered Ray Rice at a 1st round level, and some team gave you the 29th overall pick for him would you consider yourself better off with the pick you received or when you had Ray Rice?

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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 24, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhhh, Ray Rice obviously. Just like the Steelers would consider themselves better off with Wallace instead of a draft pick at the bottom of the list.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 24, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. That is why I was wondering why you said “while also helping out a team that we face twice a year” in regards to giving them a very low 1st round pick but getting their star WR in return.

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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 24, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

When you draft as well as teams like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, etc, you don’t want to give those teams extra first round picks, especially when they are your biggest rival.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 24, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

go eat your 25 year old frito out of the back of your pinto.

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by raven on Feb 27, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to beat a dead horse.

But seriously, why commit money and a pick for a second Torrey Smith. I mean, I love Torrey Smith and Mike Wallace, you put those two on the same team they just take each other’s receptions.

I think Torrey has a better chance to shine because he has Boldin on the other side, they compliment each other so well. I would like to see the Steelers draft a big WR to go with Brown and Wallace, to force matchup problems for the opposition. You need a slot WR who can create yards off short routes and open space for your TE’s. Seriously, you guys clone Boldin for us and we’ll clone A. Brown for you and we’ll have two sick sets of WR’s.

by Phantaskippy on Feb 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

ohhh, you mean the boldin we have one play for in the red zone and the one who didn’t see the ball on our last set of downs in the AFCC. you may as well take him but don’t expect to go beyond his route and get open when ben has to scramble. you’d want Pitta then. he was the only one with a scramble antenna.

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by raven on Feb 26, 2012 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly

not kidding, but this JR Sweezy guy could be a good snag in the 5th or 6th round. 6’5, 295 lbs, could be a good gap-filler at Redding’s old position. Maybe he’d play there on 1st or 2nd down and bring in McPhashty on 3rd. I’m not sure if he could do all that as a rookie obviously btu you know what I’m saying.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 28, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

Corey White, Safety, out of Samford looked damn good in the defensive backs drill. Very smooth runner, and athletic as all get out going up for the ball.

Anyone know what round he’s projected to go in?

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by El.Dude on Feb 29, 2012 8:01 AM EST reply actions  

Mike Wallace

Wouldnt fit in baltimore. Simple. The ravens could find a draft pick for the cheap to fill the need of WR which doesnt seem like that big of a need. Their offense was just fine and why give up a draft pick and money for speed you already have. Wallace might be faster but Smith can fly too. Save the pick, save the cash and hope for a project receiver in the 4th round. Plus, I dont want to see Wallace in that uniform. PS – Evan Skev is such an ass.

by vekS navE on Mar 3, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Torrey Smith

There’s been a little misinformation here. Torrey Smith has been officially timed significantly faster than the fastest time Mike Wallace has ever clocked in the 40 yard dash. Albeit not at the Combine.

Torrey Smith did not play a whole season last year. He runs better routes and adjusts better to a ball in the air. Lee Evan’s will need replaced, but that Last thing Baltimore wants to do is to be like PIttsburgh and become a haven for Smurfs.

by parityleague on Mar 15, 2012 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Torrey actually hasn’t been timed significantly faster. Wallace ran a 4.33 at the combine and have heard he’s been clocked as fast as 4.28. Nobody will significantly beat that and the fastest I have heard of Torrey is a 4.37 and he ran a 4.43 at the combine.

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by AV23 on Mar 16, 2012 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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