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Ravens 2012 Free Agency: Who's Shown The Door?

NASHVILLE, TN - SEPTEMBER 18:  Kenny Britt #18 of the Tennessee Titans makes a catch against Domonique Foxworth #24 and Ed Reed #20 of the Baltimore Ravens at LP Field on September 18, 2011 in Nashville, Tennessee. Tennessee won 26-13.  (Photo by Grant Halverson/Getty Images)

Yes, maybe that headline’s a bit harsh, but the cold reality is that the NFL is a business first and foremost. With free agency around the corner, everyone has begun debating and speculating as to which outside players could land with the Baltimore Ravens, but the reality is that free agency doesn’t just mean adding players to rosters, it means cutting them from teams as well.

While the Ravens have several free-agents-to-be that may simply have expiring contracts and might not be retained due to the salary cap or for monetary reasons, there is still one big important part of free agency that has yet to hit Baltimore: cuts.

Last year, in almost one fell swoop, long time Ravens, Derrick Mason and Todd Heap, found themselves team-less almost a few hours after the league had opened its doors after the NFL’s lockout. Though the cuts that the Ravens make this off-season may not be as deliberate or shocking as last year’s, they’re inevitably coming soon. With several candidates for being restructured or cut altogether, the Ravens will look to create as much cap space as possible while cutting loose any players that they feel aren’t contributing enough to justify their current salaries.

So, who stays and who gets shown the door?

(After the "Jump", see which Ravens players could be given their walking papers.)

Star-divide

With an extremely deep 2012 free agency class, the Ravens will surely look to create as much cap space as possible to be able to sign some outside free agents at positions of need, such as: interior offensive line, wide receiver, and possibly even running back with Ricky Williamsrecent retirement. Here is a list of players that the Ravens could decide to re-structure, or cut altogether in the attempt to create additional cap space:

Cornerback, Domonique Foxworth: Once thought to be the solution to the Ravens’ shaky secondary, Foxworth has struggled mightily to stay healthy over the past two seasons. Unfortunately for Foxworth, he hasn’t seemed to fully recover from his ACL injury which he sustained in 2010. During his absence, Foxworth has watched from the bench while Lardarius Webb, Jimmy Smith, and Cary Williams have stepped up to lead the Ravens’ secondary to become one of the NFL’s best units. Foxworth signed a 4-year, $27.2 million contract in 2009, and is due $5.6 million for the up-coming season. After only playing in two games over the past two seasons and being buried on the depth chart behind several promising defensive backs, the Ravens could decide to part ways with the expensive, and often injured Foxworth.

Cornerback, Chris Carr: Another cornerback that was thought to boost the Ravens’ secondary unit, Carr struggled to see the field in 2011 due to some minor injuries and also because he was buried on the depth chart behind Webb, Smith, and Williams. In fact, Carr was a frequent recipient of becoming a "healthy scratch" on game days because other defensive backs were simply out-playing him. Carr has been a solid defender for the Ravens, but it seems that if he wants to stay in Baltimore, he is going to have to prove his worth on the practice field and earn his starting job back. This past off-season, Carr signed a 4-year contract worth $14 million and is due $2.5 million for the up-coming season. At just 28, Carr could be a prime candidate to have his contract re-structured and given another chance to come back and prove himself, but at a lesser cost.

Wide Receiver, Lee Evans: Depending on who you ask, Evans is either the first or second biggest reason for the Ravens’ loss in the AFC championship game. Another player that struggled to see the field this season due to injuries, Evans was initially believed to become a solid deep threat for the Ravens and quarterback, Joe Flacco. While he did show flashes of elite speed and home-run-threat ability, his lack of production and overall disappointing season could force the Ravens’ hand to cut ties. Evans carries a cap number of $3.3 million heading into next season with a $1.0 million roster bonus due to him on March 18th. With only 4 catches for 74 yards this season, the Ravens aren’t likely to pay Evans his full salary for next year, and instead will most likely ask the wide-out to take a major pay decrease if he wishes to remain in Baltimore.

Kicker, Billy Cundiff: Coming off of a Pro-Bowl season in 2010, I don’t think many expected that Cundiff would take the nose dive that he did this season. Connecting on just 28 out of 37 field goals (75.7%) this season, many are questioning Cundiff’s mental confidence heading into next season. The journeyman kicker, who seemed to have found a home with the Ravens, will now be under a very large microscope this off-season with coaches and fans alike keeping a close eye on him. While it’s not likely that Cundiff gets cut, it’s almost a foregone conclusion that the kicker will face some form of competition during training camp and be forced to earn or keep his job. Last year, Cundiff signed a whopping five year contract worth $14.7 million and is due $2.2 million in 2012. Since the Ravens aren’t likely to cut ties with their only kicker, it could be prudent for the team to at least re-structure Cundiff’s contract coming off an extremely inconsistent year. While he did struggle with a calf injury this season, the Ravens surely aren’t looking for a repeat of Cundiff’s missed field goal in the AFC championship game in the up-coming season.

So, there we have it. Only time will tell who the Ravens decide to part ways with, and unfortunately, time may be running out for some of these current Ravens. Free agency is upon us, and in a matter of weeks there will be some players that move on from this franchise.

Poll
Which Ravens player is most likely to not be with the team in 2012?
Domonique Foxworth
352 votes
Chris Carr
12 votes
Lee Evans
59 votes
Billy Cundiff
36 votes
Other
9 votes

468 votes | Poll has closed

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Ben Grubbs, perhaps JJ and I could even take a stretch and see the team restructuring Q’s contract, as he is due big bucks too.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 19, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

I’m expecting something similar. Q is going to make a wise business decision.

by Evan Skev on Feb 19, 2012 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Out of them? Foxworth is more than gone. No sense paying him #1 CB money when he is fourth at best.

Webb Jimmy and Cary are well ahead of him. If injuries/development work out then Carr and Gorrer could be as well.

by Roa on Feb 19, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions  

Gorrer won’t be gone. He doesn’t make much and played great with the opportunities he was given

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 19, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Gorrer is an exlcusive-rights free agent, which means that ANY contract we offer him, he has to accept. Same thing with Kindle, McClellan and Cox.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I didn’t transition clearly enough but I actually meant that Carr and Gorrer could wind up ahead of him as well not that Carr and Gorrer could be gone as well. Both are worth keeping right now.

by Roa on Feb 19, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Please keep Cundiff

Dont ostracize the man for one missed kick. As for his lower FG percentage for the year, everyone has a down year. I guarantee he’ll learn from his mistakes this year and come back to be the franchise kicker we all know and love

by I am that hero on Feb 19, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

Nobody is saying cut him for one kick
As for his lower FG percentage for the year, everyone has a down year.

This is just untrue, his FG% was only 1 percentage point off of his career average. That wasn’t a down year, that was the real Billy Cundiff. 31st ranked kicker in the league…gotta find someone better.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Cundiff is already gone… He knows it.. everyone knows it

by Evan Skev on Feb 19, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No one knows it. Who is a better option right now? Don’t say Shayne Graham, there is a reason he was on the street.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He missed the biggest kick of harbs career…no way he beats anyone in training camp…

What can he do to get the stink off?

by Evan Skev on Feb 19, 2012 6:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

There are plenty of better options

I wish Cundiff kept up his pace from 2010 and earned that contract this year, but he just didn’t. He fell back to his career averages…which are terrible.

Billy sucks

check that link, he was 31st out of 35 kickers this year…and the last 2 had a combined 16 attempts so there were only 3 full time kickers worse than him this year.

And this year wasn’t an aberration.

Billy career

pretty much right on par with his entire career.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

but he never had a good year like he did in 2010 . Billy had a bad year not only was it a year where he had to go through a process of a lock out but it also was a year where he got injured as well.

Billy Cundiff is a good kicker and it would be foolish for the ravens to release him atleast with out competition also who really is competition ? Dont tell me a rookie kicker from the 2012 draft

by jazz20 on Feb 20, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

josh Scobee, Matt Prater and Connor Barth are all guys who could beat him out. Even Rackers if you ignore that he’s 36.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 20, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Billy Cundiff is a good kicker

That is just flat out untrue. Please tell me why you keep insisting he is a good kicker. Anybody can have 1 good year, you have to prove yourself a little more than that to be considered good. 31st kicker in the NFL is NOT good.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

cundiff will have competition

but wont be just cut for the sake of it.

I also doubt we dump Evans. He needs this team right now, we’re the right place for him and he wont cost much.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 19, 2012 11:09 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Sorry but its time to go.

JJ after signing a nice contract he underachieved IMO.

Foxworth never should’ve been overpaid, underachieved

David Reed injury prone and has been out of the rotation losing time to Laquan, a undrafted free agent in his rookie year.

BA, Carr, and Ruki.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

if you think JJ underachieved

you don’t understand football and his role on the defense. He may not have put up huge stats, but he is one of the most important pieces on this defense. He may be gone, and if so, he will be sorely missed.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy is a OLB not a DE. He is supposed to do more than be stout against the run. He is only doing half of his job.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

he doesn't rush the passer very often

so he’s not gonna get sacks. I agree he’s not a great pass rusher anyway, but that’s why Kruger can come in on those situations, because he’s probably not gonna be able to take over a full time role.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If we lose JJ, I hope he can

but just from what we’ve seen from him so far, he’s pretty much one dimensional.

I do think a whole offseason of first team reps will help him (if JJ does leave) so we’ll see.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Why can he? What have you seen from Kruger at OLB (not 4-3 DE) that makes you so comfortable letting go of one of the most reliable OLB in the game for someone who really has never even played the position?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I suggested there will be a rotation opposite Suggs, with Kruger, Kindle and possibly McAdoo, and a draft pick.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Because they havent asked him to do it yet, which means YOU dont know if he can/cant do it either. Why would he be asked to do it if JJ does a pretty good job, doesnt make sense to take out JJ and ask Kruger to do it. Kruger is a better pass rusher though, we do know that!

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Because they havent asked him to do it yet

But they did ask him to make DE his primary position which may indicate they like him better there than OLB.

If JJ does leave (which he very well might if a team throws alot of $$$ at him) than I hope that Kruger is ready to make the next step. He has certainly been here long enough to be the first in line, but I would still rather have JJ back for another year or 2.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

JJ was a D-linemen too but was athletic like Kruger is now. We will see what Kruger can do, I think he will get a good opportunity this year.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, forgot David Reed. This was meant to be a “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” kind of thing, for guys who have underachieved. David Reed, sadly, does belong in that category.

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"

by WestminsterRaven on Feb 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not making big money, so no reason to cut him for that reason

he probably won’t be fully healthy this year, so they might stash him on IR, or just cut him and find someone to take his spot. I’m not as down on him as most people, he had 1 bad game and people forget that he led the league in return average the year before, and was near the top this year as well. Hell, even the play he hurt his knee on was a TD. He cut and tore his ACL, but he had nothing but space in front of him, and that would have been an easy TD.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I’m split on Reed. Great 2010, horrendus 2011. Maybe the team should shoulder some of the blame for not having a decent backup KR on the roster. But you’re right, his cap hit isn’t too great and the team could keep him on IR and give him one more shot when fully healthy.

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"

by WestminsterRaven on Feb 19, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We should keep Carr

I know that he is not at the level of Webb and J smith but we should keep him. In my opinion Webb is our best CB and top six in the NFL. Smith and Williams are close but next year a healthy Smith should be better and then we have Carr. Webb and Smith should be starters and Williams and Carr should be kept for when Webb and Smith need a breather. Foxworth is crap and should be cut.

by Prince0Crime on Feb 19, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Carr should restructure his contract

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 12:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, there’s no way Carr will be paid that much to be a 4th, possibly 5th CB.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we do everything in our power to bring JJ back. He is maybe the best run defending OLB in the league. That is one thing people don’t realize when just looking at his “lack of” stats.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 12:44 PM EST reply actions  

If we bring him back, I don’t think he would have a prominent role. I love JJ — he’s one of the all-time overachievers — but he offers nothing in terms of a pass rush. Sizzle cannot continue to do it all by himself.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sizzle cannot continue to do it all by himself.

Shit, where did the other 34 sacks come from then?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on, man…the pass rush dwindled towards the end of the season.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yea we cant forget the measly 2.5 sacks from JJ. I think what Josh is saying is that in our base defense we need a bookend to Suggs. In my mind a starting OLB is one of the top pass rushers on the team and can set the edge against the run. JJ is stout against the run but still wasnt the best run-stuffing OLB we have, that’s Suggs. JJ’s 2.5 sacks is horrendous. Kruger doubled that sack total with limited snaps. Kindle will make an impact next season . Mcadoo looked promising in preseason. JJ was a great Raven but its time to let him go and let someone else step up.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re right, dude. I DID forget the 2.5 sacks JJ contributed. Thank God for those, right, Malor?

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. Thank god for JJ being on this team.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Kruger doubled that sack total with limited snaps.

He did this from the 3rd down, 4-3 DE position, not 3-4 OLB.

Kindle will make an impact next season . Mcadoo looked promising in preseason. JJ was a great Raven but its time to let him go and let someone else step up.

YES!!! Let’s let JJ walk because we like the fact that Kindle was a high 2nd round pick and McAdoo had a INSANE game in week 4 of the preseason!!! I definitely want to let one of them step up rather than a guy who has started 129 straight games for us.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

We can see you don’t like change much do you. According to you Ray Lewis should play until he’s 50 if he wants cuz he played a lot of games. Chris Carr is a prime example. Before the beginning of the season I said let his ass go because we have young guys that can do it better. I think you said keep Carr then too. We have to let these young guys do their thing and not be afraid of change. We have three maybe four people or a combination of them that could possibly do a better job.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

We can see you don’t like change much do you.

Oh I am perfectly fine with change. I liked that we got rid of so many players from the 2010 roster. But I don’t want to lose a player that has done alot for this defense and not have a proven replacement.

Chris Carr is a prime example. Before the beginning of the season I said let his ass go because we have young guys that can do it better. I think you said keep Carr then too.

Well, considering he graded out as the best CB in the AFCN in 2010 yes I wanted to bring him back. We had no idea that Webb would be this good, we did not know if we were picking Jimmy in the draft, anyone that said Cary would be as good as he was prior to last season is lying, we had Josh Wilson and Fabian lost to Free Agency and Foxworth coming off a major knee injury. So yes, bring Carr back was a great option last off season.

We have to let these young guys do their thing and not be afraid of change. We have three maybe four people or a combination of them that could possibly do a better job.

I don’t mind letting Kruger see time, why would I hate seeing him get in there? Kindle and McAdoo have shown us nothing significant right now that indicates they could make major contributions. What have they shown?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried to make a point to you guys last offseason that Carr wasnt targeted much. This year he sucked.

JJ, this year is a cap year. Its more important to keep Grubbs than JJ. If we didnt need the cap space than fine keep him here. Letting JJ go im sure we can find one guy out of that rotation that can be stout against run and one that can rush the pass.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried to make a point to you guys last offseason that Carr wasnt targeted much.

Which is usually a good thing. Less targets means you are shutting your man down. A QB isn’t going to throw to a WR that is covered, right?

And just for the record, Chris Carr had the 2nd most targets of CB’s in the AFCN in the 2010 season. He was targeted more than the likes of Ike Taylor, Joe Haden, Johnathen Joseph, Leon Hall, Sheldon Brown, Webb and Josh Wilson.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright man, and now Carr is 4th string.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

With Jimmy, Cary, Webb, Chykie and Gorrer, I think Carr is expendable. He was even a healthy scratch for one game this year. We could free up his salary to help pay some of our own.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I am fine with Carr gone, I was just refuting your comment that Carr shouldn’t have been brought back based on his 2010 performance. If not for injury this year, he could have very well contributed more.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright man, and now Carr is 4th string.

This year. I agree he should be cut, but just admit you were wrong instead of continuing to fight about it. It was a good idea to re-sign him after last year. I would have rather kept Wilson, but Carr was cheaper.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year I still didn’t think it was a good idea.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I get where you're coming from

because Carr was pretty bad before that, but he did have a good year last year and we were very uncertain at that position in the offseason.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He had a good season leading into the contract and we were in a situation where CB was a glaring weakness.

We magically reversed it into a strength with Webb, Jimmy and Cary but at the time we couldn’t count on any of them. Webb was still worse than Carr, we didn’t have Jimmy, and some of us were saying Cary should be cut because he was too far down on the depth chart.

We HAD to resign Carr at the time, sure in retrospect it proved unnecessary but we really didn’t have much of a choice when we did it.

by Roa on Feb 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

i still think Carr is the ravens best nickel cornerback.

Jimmy,Cary, and Webb are not at there best covering in the slot/nickel.

by jazz20 on Feb 20, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Webb is better than Carr at the nickel. Carr got torched in the nickel. Webb is on his best at the outside, but definitely is still better in the nickel than Carr.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 20, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Webb is better than Carr at every aspect of the CB positon.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 20, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Webb is a great nickel, but he’s so good on the outside it’s foolish to play him there all the time. Gotta keep him on the opposing #1 WR. I think Gorrer could develop into our best nickel CB. We have so many options, it’s such a strength now, something nobody thought going into this year.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 20, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No way

The only move Carr had this year was to bear hug guys and hope the refs don’t call a PI.

daytime commentator. night time ninja.

by El.Dude on Feb 20, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

JJ, this year is a cap year. Its more important to keep Grubbs than JJ.

I’d agree with that…but unfortunately there’s probably about a 99% chance Grubbs is gone.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure you didn’t see Webb becoming this great this year and Cary coming out of nowhere.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 19, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t think Webb wouldn’t allow a touchdown this year but I did think he was better than Carr. I did think Cary would get time but didn’t this k he would be as solid as he was. I was high on him last year but he didn’t get time. Thought foxworth would contribute. Wasnt expecting for wilson to be the gone tho.I knew we would sign/draft a corner.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

JJ even stated that he doesn’t think he’ll be back because we have young guys ready to step in. He even talked about Kindle on a radio show, saying that he rips it up every day in practice, but is stuck on the depth chart.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Link? I’d like to see that transcript, unless you caught it on the car radio or something.

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"

by WestminsterRaven on Feb 19, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I heard that in the car on the 98 rock morning show a while back…JJ is a guest sometimes.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.wbal.com/absolutenm/templates/story.aspx?articleid=77673&zoneid=50k

When asked who he felt looked the best thus far, he singled out Sergio Kindle and Paul Kruger, who he described as “looking like a beast”.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I would do anything to see Kindle just turn into a straight monster and give us 7 sacks next season. He is freaking HUGE!

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 19, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think next year Kindle puts up five sacks.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 2:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lmao

seriously. this

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 19, 2012 9:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

It will be interesting to see if Kruger can handle starting. He has the size and athleticism to man the position but still needs to be stout and tough against the run.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

I think we’ll see a rotation on the other side of Suggs between Kruger and possibly Kindle and/or McAdoo and a draft pick…

by JoshuaStein on Feb 19, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m anxious to see Mcadoo play. He was signed within a week before the Atlanta preseason game and came out with I think three sacks. I hope its a full out battle between he, Kindle, and Kruger. Kruger was great for but lets make this interesting.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He is huge too, 6’5". Needs to bulk up a bit. Think he was 235 or something. Reminded me of Carlos Dunlap.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry 6’7" 245 lbs. About 20 more lbs would be great for his size.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 19, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He is monstrous

if he develops the skills to go with the size, he’ll be a nightmare for any O lineman

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Mcadoo and Kindle are the two players I’m looking forward to seeing most in camp. Could really solidify our pass rush if they turn out. Both have every tool needed to become successful.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 19, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I have watched that a couple times. Really like what I saw given the short amount of time he got to prepare and considering he didn’t even play college football the season before from being suspended. Really hope he’s worked hard this off-season because the guy is really gifted.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 20, 2012 7:26 AM EST up reply actions  

hell of an athhlete

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 20, 2012 9:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Amazing burst off the snap.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 20, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah if he was able to bulk up and work on a bull rush then he could be nasty.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

The potential is there for eliteness, but he has a long way to go.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 20, 2012 11:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

There should have been an "all" option in the poll

Foxworth and Carr are as good as gone in my opinion. I really think Cundiff needs to go as well, but I don’t think he’ll be cut outright unless (until?) he loses his job in training camp. Evans is the only one I think is worth bringing back, but it’s up to him to decide if he wants to come back for a much lower price, or try to find a team to pay him more elsewhere.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 19, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Webb Camp

Lardarius Webb of the Baltimore Ravens and Roy Helu of the Washington Redskins will be holding their annual, 4 day 3 night, football camp from June 29-July 2 at McDaniel College, Westminster, MD. Go to www.footballcamps.com

by SI FOOTBALL CAMPS on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

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