Ravens Entering Contract Talks with Flacco; Caldwell to Hone His Skills
In a story posted on NFL.com yesterday by Jason La Canfora, the Baltimore Ravens are looking to start hammering out a contract extension with quarterback Joe Flacco. Contract-extension talks are set to begin next week during the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis between the team and Flacco’s agent, Joe Linta.
This is good news for the franchise as well as fans of the Ravens. Flacco, the former University of Delaware product, has established himself as one of the NFL’s best young up-and-coming quarterbacks. In his short four year carreer, Flacco has helped guide the Ravens to four playoff berths as well as two AFC championship games.
Although Flacco has only been with the team for a short time, he has brought one key element to the Ravens that they have lacked since their inception in 1996: stability. As the Ravens’ all-time passing leader with 13,816 yards and 80 touchdowns, Flacco should now be entering the prime of his career with most of his best football ahead of him. Locking up Flacco long-term is a great move by the Ravens and is a good sign of the support and the belief that the team has in the young quarterback. In an increasingly quarterback driven league, having the young stand-out under contract for years to come will allow the Ravens’ offense to grow and keep it’s continuity.
In a somewhat related story, follow along after the "Jump" to see what Ravens QB coach, Jim Caldwell, will do to help further improve Flacco.
A recent story posted on BaltimoreRavens.com gave extra insight as to why the Ravens chose their new quarterback coach, Jim Caldwell. In the story done by writer, Ryan Mink, Caldwell talks about his love of teaching and honing a quarterback’s fundamentals:
"Often times, I think people believe that once you get to this level that you shouldn’t work on this aspect of it (fundamentals). But the fact of the matter is, it’s when you need it most. Everything is so intricate, the windows are so small, the timing is so important. Timing and accuracy is key. Working with fundamentals to make sure those areas continue to improve is vital."
So for those who were wondering what else Caldwell had in store for Flacco, the answer is: it’s back to the basics.
I like and appreciate what Caldwell had to say on the importance of perfecting the small things, and I believe that what he said on the matter holds true for most everything in life. I, as a musician, had seen a fair amount of success and good opportunities come my way performing with amazing bands and orchestras all across the country, playing some of the most difficult music imaginable. Along the way, you start to lose touch with some of those basic, rudimentary skills you picked up all the way back in grade school. When I entered the California Institute of the Arts, my instructor knocked me back into the fundamentals all day, every day. As annoying and tedious as it might have been, those basic principles brought out the best in me and applied to each piece of music that I’ve ever played.
Though football and music are two separate things, I think the principle still stands: it’s the small things that make a difference.
The more Caldwell speaks, the more I like the move the Ravens made to hire him. With an increased focus on the mechanics and small intricacies of quarterback play, I expect that Flacco will look more refined and better than ever heading into the 2012 season.
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As good as Caldwell may or may not be,...
….it will be up to Cam Cameron to prove it or not, and then for Joe to execute any play called, good or bad.
aka 'Rexx'
holy poopstain
I guess his agent is playing the " ALL I DO IS WIN WIN WIN NO MATTER WHAT" card
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
He is going to get paid, but don’t keep your fingers crossed that it will hinder us from being able to sign our other key players. We have one of the best cap structuring executives in the league, he will make sure everything is fine.
Sorry to disappoint you.
"Picture Me Rollin"
This.
Making sure there is enough space to get everyone’s deal done is the only thing I’m concerned about. I wonder if Flacco’s deal getting done really spells the end for Grubbs. Unless we can get Flacco done and Rice done, then franchise Grubbs, I think the writing is on the wall for Grubbs to get paid big somewhere else.
You’re are right though, if anyone can pull it off, it’s the Ravens.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully it’s something we get done soon and can focus on the others. I’m going to guess somewhere around 7 year 85 mill with 30 guaranteed.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Still Think
It will be 7 for $90M+ as I think Joe will get an average of at least $13M per year.
I think the only way Oz breaks the psychological $100M barrier is for a very, very cap/team friendly contract; or for a ridiculous length, but I doubt that.
Joe’s agent is going to shot for $15M per, the Ravens are going to open at the gee-whiz figure of $10M, and they will essentially split the difference, with a little extra something-something for Joe. I think the hard part will be the guaranteed portion as Joe’s agent is going to be pushing $50M ($50M guaranteed??? …crazy) and Ozzie is going to be hard pressed to keep that number under $40M.
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"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Top 5 QB
Pay him that way!
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Agreed… He swept the conference and put Baltimore in position to go to the big game…on the road against one of the best teams in the league
I’m not saying every QB who whips pitt deserves a big contract (see Tebow) but Flacco is the best QB in the AFCN
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 1:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LMAO
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by John Stephens on Feb 16, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
yeah yeah
Ben has 4 division titles, 3 AFC Championship wins and 2 superbowls. Joe is def. on the come up and the best of his class (guy within3-5 years exp.) but he’s still playing catch up to Ben. Luckily Bens body is falling apart slowly but surely haha.
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we are fortunate that rothlis has a second rate work ethic and a weak intellect…is this his 8th season…and he’s claiming that he’s fully committed to offseason conditioning?
The pitt FO did a number on him the past three seasons…combine their failures with his shortcomings and you have a QB that is nearing the end of his career
Now they bring in Haley after firing arians…and rothlis isn’t thrilled with the hire…
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agent is asking for top 5 money, and by the end of it, Flacco will get paid like a top 10 QB. Everyone wins.
Should we sign Grubbs and tag Rice? It’d be saving us about a million in cap space
What instrument do you play westminster?
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
He plays a mean skin flute.
"Picture Me Rollin"
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You wish.
Trumpet actually.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"
by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, any type of music you like in particular? Classical stuff? Jazz? If I’m playing in an orchestra or something I’m always partial to anything by Grainger, Elgar, Debussy. Later in my life I was playing in a lot of big band swing jazz stuff and some small 3-4 man combo lighter “cool” jazz stuff. I really want to start up a salsa band. I loooooove salsa music. There were so many good Latin bands out in CA and holy crap can they play. Ahh, I miss that.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"
by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well I was trained classically, and am partial to Bach pieces. But in college and after I have played in country/folk bands, gigging and such. Mostly improvisational music is what I like. Never played in jazz bands, would like to but would definitely need to use the sheet music first to fake it, before I could get the knack of the chord/key change patterns.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
But I love Miles davis and Coltrane jazz…can’t be beat! Sonny Rollins too.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
Very cool. Yea, as a trumpet player, I love Miles Davis too, and Chet Baker is also one of my favs. If you can, take a couple jazz theory courses to bone up on progressions and key changes stuff like that. I also got a lot if help just learning some basic piano and by taking a solfege class. When I was younger, I could barely carry a tune and after taking that solfege class and some additional theory, I can actually sing a little now. Oh, and if you can’t do courses or anything like that, there are some good books out there that can walk you through learning progressions. I always did it by ear as best I could. I would listen to jazz records over and over to get a feel for what the guys were doing and try to imitate their sound and colors and all that. Transcribing by ear some of the improved solos you like would help too, like Miles’ “So What” from “Kind of Blue”. It’s a fun way to get inside of the changes and how those guys did it.
Cool to talk with you, and hope we can chat some more about this kind of stuff down the line.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 17, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
On the Heels
Of MaLoR’s comment, so many directions to go with puckering trumpet lips, but I’ll be cool…
The only thing I have against trumpets is the whole concept of the spit valve. Man, that is just nasty to see that come out and puddle…
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"It's big for a reason."
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Ha. I guess if you think of it that way, it’s a little gross/weird. Been playing since 3rd grade so I guess you get used to that stuff. Unfortunatley, don’t have a lot of opportunities to play a ton these days, but planning on getting back into it a lot more soon. Just have to get some things in order.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"
by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
His agent wants top five money, which might make the negotiations long and tricky. I say he gets around Rivers money, which is (deservedly) more than Fitzpatrick, Cassel and Kolb…
His agent is just doing his job…no biggie
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Every agent with a half decent QB will ask for ridiculous money. Most will drop to a reasonable level eventually.
If he doesn’t I’m sure Flacco will force his hand. Both sides know it is by far in their best interests to work out a deal this off-season and they clearly will do just that. Only thing to really worry about is the details.
Flacco won't survive on another team
And does not deserve Rivers money. With the defense the Chargers have we would not have made the playoffs the past four years.
Any facts to support your argument or are you just stating your opinion for shits & giggles
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There is no 100% certaintity that a bullet through the brain will kill you.
But there is a good chance that it will.
Certaintity…great word
I admit I love the way you create your own reality. I also admit that I don’t see the point. You’re not getting paid. You’re not entertaining. You’re not making any contribution. You never come through with news. Who are you? Why are you here?
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who are you to question anyone.
This is a site of opinions, and to me yours doesn’t matter.
by TheShadow on Feb 16, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How ironic that YOU should say that.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 17, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok
- 3,184 hits
- Runs: 1,647
- RBI: 1,695
- Extra Base Hits: 1,078
- Doubles: 603
- Home runs: 431
- 19 time all star
- 8 silver slugger awards
- 2 all star MVP’s
- 2 gold gloves
- Rookie of the Year
- Most homeruns by a shortstop
- Most double plays by a shortstop
But let me guess, you are going to bring him his groundouts into double plays as your only argument, right?
Why do you hate everything Baltimore, I never get why you are like this.
"Picture Me Rollin"
You left out his average, why was that.
by TheShadow on Feb 17, 2012 7:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing wrong with his average
without the streak, Cal is STILL a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.
You never have any logic or facts to back up your bullshit ramblings.
.276 career BA for a SS is pretty damn good.
And the streak is absolutely an important stat. He was still good when he broke the record.
You can’t put a price on having a guy who is basically guaranteed to play and get a hit every game.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
The average would be okay if he had shortstop range, which he didn't.
Many balls he could not get to a good shortstop would.
That’s just laughable. Is that really the only thing you got? Baseball is ALL about numbers, so could you please bring up maybe 5 relevant stats that would back up your shit argument?
Seriously, what do you have against Baltimore sports. First you say Troy Smith and Bulger would win us a SB, now you say that one of the greatest players in the history of baseball is not HOF worthy? WHY DO YOU HATE BALTIMORE?!?
"Picture Me Rollin"
His career fielding percentage was .968, to go along with his 2 gold gloves. Got anything else?
"Picture Me Rollin"
Gold gloves are a bad metric to measure by as well.
I mean, look at Jeter…
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
Actually
Earl moved him to short BECAUSE he thought he would have better than average range. Earl ended up being right… …And ultimately revolutionized the shortstop position.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Batting average is generally a pretty poor metric.
Hence the use of OBP, OPS, and the like.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Feb 23, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
With the defense the Chargers have we would not have made the playoffs the past four years.
They had the #1 ranked defense in 2010. Guess you are right…
"Picture Me Rollin"
Not to mention the D they had a few years ago with Merriman, Olshanksy, Cromartie, etc. That was one of the more talented groups in the league.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Um I think you are proving our point. Rivers never got them there even with a very good defense when you original argument was he never had a defense which we clearly showed he did.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Let me see, how is Merriman doing now
Didn’t he join the league after Ray Lewis. Don’t they kind of pick on Cromartie. And even with this great defense you say they had Rivers could not get them there. And they want to give Flacco Rivers money.
Rivers could not get them there. And they want to give Flacco Rivers money.
What? You said that Flacco doesn’t deserve Rivers money, indicating that you don’t think Flacco is as good as Rivers. Then you said Flacco would be crap if he had to play for SD because their defense was trash, but they had the #1 ranked defense in 2010. It is not just “what I say” go check the stats for yourself babe.
"Picture Me Rollin"
by only allowing 17 points? Yeah totally on the defense…
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
And what do Merriman and Cromartie have to do with this? Neither of them were on SD in 2010.
"Picture Me Rollin"
But weren't they there in 2006
When the Ravens with Steve"No wheels and a marshmallow arm"McNair beat them.
2006 was more than 4 years ago big guy. But thanks for playing (again).
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
In 1995? What?
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Hey, TheShadow's back! Haven't seen you around while Flacco was having success...
But hey, a troll’s gotta troll
My computer crashed the morning of the AFC game against the Pats.
I guess it didn’t want me praising Flacco for only getting us 7 points in the first half against such a highly touted defense.
Flacco threw the game-winning TD, Evans just didn’t catch it.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
The ball got knocked out of his hands.
It’s a great play when the Ravens defense does it but its the receivers fault when it happens to us. How fickle we are.
It was a heads up play by the defender, but it was completely preventable by Evans. There’s absolutely no reason that play shouldn’t have resulted in a touchdown.
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I feel the same way because of the remarks he’s made about Cameron. Flacco has a cool head though…and Oz and Co are the best in the biz.
Maybe they’ll promise that Cameron only has one season left in Baltimore
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 5:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh
But if that were true… the Cam and one year part, I mean…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Hey…I’m not naive enough to think I can do a better job than Cameron but I can spot organizational dysfunction from miles away. I’m predicting failure next season and a change in OC.
by Evan Skev on Feb 16, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Flacco is team kind of guy.
He will ask for what he is worth but I believe he will be fair. Joe deserves to get paid.

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