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Mel Kiper Mock Draft

Draft guru and Baltimore native Mel Kiper has put out his most recent Mock Draft, and has the Ravens selecting one of the higher ranked players at his position at the29th spot of the first round. Most fans believe the team needs an offensive lineman or an inside linebacker, with the wide receiver position also in the mix for additional depth.

Kiper has the Ravens selecting Wisconsin center Peter Konz, arguably the best center in this year's draft class. He's a huge guy that might even be able to go the route of former Ravens player, Jason Brown, who started out at left guard to learn the ropes and then was moved to center for his finalyear in Baltimore before signing a ridiculously high free agent contract with the St. Louis Rams.

Even All Pro and soon-to-be Hall of Fame LT Jonathan Ogden started his NFL career at left guard before moving over to left tackle to become one of the best at that position for the next decade. Konz could start there or even right at center just like the Pittsburgh Steelers Maurkice Pouncey did his rookie year.

(Check out the full first round of Mel Kiper's Mock Draft and see what he has to say about the Ravens' pick after the 'Jump')

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Indianapolis Colts

Record: 2-14

* Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

While the public relations drama continues between Jim Irsay and Peyton Manning, there's little drama surrounding whom the Colts will take with the No. 1 pick. I doubt Luck throws next week at the NFL combine, but his status among evaluators really isn't in question. Arm talent, strength, size, smarts, leadership, intangibles -- it's all there. The only question is whether he'll be serving an apprenticeship under Manning, but my guess right now would be that he won't have to.

St. Louis Rams

Record: 2-14

* Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St.

I've said before this pick could be in play. Cleveland, Washington or maybe even Miami could slide into this spot if they want to make a move at quarterback, but Blackmon goes here in this mock because I'm not able to reflect trades. It will be interesting to see if Blackmon is willing to run in Indy. He could bypass it and wait for his pro day given his current status. St. Louis is in desperate need of a weapon in the passing game, and will get one with one of its first two picks. Remember, it could also lose Brandon Lloyd in free agency.

Minnesota Vikings

Record: 3-13

* Matt Kalil, OT, USC

The Vikings need to upgrade at left tackle, and Kalil is the rare one who could step into that position right away at the NFL level. Great feet, arm length, athleticism and finishing skills as a run-blocker make him a very complete prospect. I can see the Vikings tempted if Blackmon is around here, which he very well could be, because they're also lacking weapons in the passing game. They could also go for a cornerback. It'll be one of three, all top needs.

Cleveland Browns

Record: 4-12

* Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor

Given the makeup of the roster, and the fact that they have two first-round picks and can really enhance the level of young talent, I think the Browns are far more likely to look at a young QB prospect than get into the bidding war for a veteran like Manning, or even Matt Flynn. One question I have is whether Cleveland stays at this spot and hopes Griffin is still around, or gets aggressive and moves up to No. 2 and guarantees they get their guy. Given his experience, leadership qualities and overall skill set, I don't see it as much of a leap for Griffin to be a Week 1 starter in 2012.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Record: 5-11

* Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama

I'll say it again -- don't simply dismiss the idea that Richardson could land here because of the presence of LaGarrette Blount. A great running team now needs more than one good back, and Richardson is by far the best back on the board this year. As well, if the Bucs are going with a "best player available" mantra early on -- very possible given a wide range of needs -- Richardson would make a lot of sense here. Blount has power, but he's far more limited as an all-around back than Richardson. The Bucs were actually below league average in yards per rush in 2011, and could look to improve there.

Washington Redskins

Record: 5-11

* Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU

The Redskins are a team I could certainly see moving off this pick, but if the draft broke this way, the pick makes a lot of sense on both need and value. And obviously, what the Skins could do in free agency for their offense is something I'm considering. Tyrann Mathieu got the headlines at LSU, but the best cornerback on the team was Claiborne. He's the top corner in the draft, and while the Skins have offensive needs, they should also be willing to draft best available when possible because the roster needs more talent, period. While not quite the athlete, Claiborne is actually a better pure cover corner than Patrick Peterson, the No. 5 overall pick from last year.

Jacksonville Jaguars

Record: 5-11

Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina

If the Jags don't add help at wide receiver in free agency, they could look for help here, but they're also desperate for pass rush help. They sacked opposing quarterbacks fewer than two times a game in 2011, and Coples would fit in the scheme as the top 4-3 defensive end in the draft. He has ideal physical traits, with great length at 6-foot-6, and the size to hold up in the run game, complementing his pass-rush skills. Jacksonville is another team that simply needs to upgrade the talent level, so it shouldn't reach on offense at the cost of adding superior talent.

Carolina Panthers

Record: 6-10

* Michael Brockers, DT, LSU

The Carolina defense in 2011 wasn't helped by injuries, but the result was a unit that couldn't stop the run, but also had a tough time generating consistent pressure on opposing quarterbacks. It starts up front, where the Panthers simply need to add talent. Brockers is a high-ceiling defensive tackle, a player who will thrive in any scheme, but could be particularly effective as a penetrator in the 4-3. The Panthers had to make do rotating a pair of rookies on the defensive interior last season, and really need to add talent and depth. The offense is going to be there -- they have to find some stoppers.

Miami Dolphins

Record: 6-10

* Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa

The Dolphins will be adding a quarterback, and Reiff helps them finish what could be a solid offensive line in 2012. Reiff's tape was exceptional this past season, and given how complete he is right now, stepping in immediately on the right side shouldn't be a problem. Outside linebacker also makes some sense here, but Miami knows its offense is really close, and Reiff makes the quarterback situation that much more appealing, regardless of who takes the snaps. The Dolphins aced their first-round pick last year, also hitting the O-line. Wouldn't hurt them one bit to double down.

Buffalo Bills

Record: 6-10

Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama

This is another pick that I'm staying with for now. The pass rush still needs a lot of help, and Upshaw is currently the best 3-4 outside linebacker in the draft. Even as Buffalo looks to shift that defense to a 4-3 (see Denver's draft strategy at No. 2 last year) Upshaw can still easily fit. Don't pass talent because of small scheme questions. He should be able to apply a lot of pressure to opposing quarterbacks from the edge for whoever gets him for 2012. Remember, nobody on the Bills managed more than 5.5 sacks in 2011, and as a team, they simply haven't been able to get pressure unless they bring numbers. This is an energetic talent, an edge linebacker in the mold of a more athletic LaMarr Woodley, a guy who has been well-coached and can start early.

Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 7-9

* Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College

In Romeo Crennel's system, you have to find linebackers with great instincts who can be physical in the run game, make stops through the hole and get into the backfield. Kuechly is simply a machine, a prototype for what you want in an interior linebacker. He has exceptional instincts, and masks any questions of his speed by diagnosing the play faster than anybody out there. Can play a little high, but that's just quibbling, as he takes few false steps. I can see the Chiefs looking for a nose tackle, but this slot might be a little high for great value there.

Seattle Seahawks

Record: 7-9

Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina

Some see the Seahawks looking at a QB this high, but the value doesn't make a lot of sense for me just yet. On the defensive side of the ball, the big need is help for the pass rush. Ingram has enough size to hold up in the 4-3, and will provide an upgrade. The Seattle defense is really fast, and could become dynamic if it can generate more pressure on opposing passers. If Kuechly is still here, I can also see that pick, but the development of K.J. Wright makes Ingram a good target.

Arizona Cardinals

Record: 8-8

* Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford

As I've noted before, Arizona hasn't drafted an offensive lineman before the fifth round since 2007 -- and it's about time. Martin may start on the right side, but he has the physical tools to become the blindside tackle here. Questions remain about what the Cardinals will do at quarterback -- my guess for now is they simply stick with Kevin Kolb and hope that investment pays off -- but there's no question they have to be better up front regardless of who is back there. Martin has a lot of athleticism, is a very good run blocker, and should continue to improve his game.

Dallas Cowboys

Record: 8-8

Mark Barron, S, Alabama

Dallas got shredded far too often with the passing game in 2011, and while Barron might be a very slight reach here in terms of his current grade, he's a perfect fit for the Cowboys. I have "defensive back" on my sheet as a big need in Big D, meaning they can't go wrong with either the top safety or the top cornerback here, and Barron offers the most value. Better in run support right now than he is in coverage, Barron could get better against the pass, but he's an upgrade for the Cowboys.

Philadelphia Eagles

Record: 8-8

* Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St.

No team was softer up the middle than Philly in 2011, and while linebacker is a bigger need, it wouldn't be a very good value here if the board lines up like this. In Cox, you get a player who should be great in the 3-4, a powerful bull-rusher who can collapse the pocket, but also a guy who does a good job against the run and plays with a really high motor. I have wide receiver as another potential need, but the Philly defense needs to be a bigger priority in the draft. The Eagles can target a linebacker in the next round.

New York Jets

Record: 8-8

* Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia

The Jets like to bill themselves as a ball control team on offense, able to run to set up the pass, and put away games with physical play up front. Well, it's hard to do that if you're 29th in the NFL in yards per rush, as they were in 2011. With Tony Sparano coming to town, my guess is shoring up the offensive line will be a priority (just as it was with his last pick in Miami) as the Jets try to get the offense back where they want it. Glenn is a really versatile guy who could probably be adequate at tackle, but could dominate inside. He could start there immediately.

Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland)

Record: 8-8

* Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama

The Bengals held up pretty well against the pass last year, but should look for the heir to Johnathan Joseph, whom they lost to Houston before the 2011 season. Kirkpatrick fits the bill as a big, physical corner who doesn't give up much in coverage given his size (nearly 6-foot-3), which makes him particularly good inside the red zone. He's also not one to shy away from run support. The Bengals need a running back, too, but they can find value at that position much later. Glenn is also an option if the Jets don't make that pick.

San Diego Chargers

Record: 8-8

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

What happens with Vincent Jackson obviously could have an effect on this selection, but even if Jackson remains, the Chargers could use another player who can create matchup problems in the passing game. Floyd showed me a lot this year -- he cut his weight some and played lighter than 230 pounds, and it really made him a more explosive player. He can make plays all over the field in the passing game. The Chargers also must get some help on the offensive line, and could go that route here if they really like a player.

Chicago Bears

Record: 8-8

Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St.

We know the Bears will be looking for help at wide receiver, but just because the offensive line could be characterized as semi-adequate doesn't mean they should make the mistake of neglecting it and letting it fall apart again. Mike Tice knows as well as anybody that Jay Cutler can be successful in the passing game first if he's not getting hit on every play. Adams is a guy who I've come around on, because he simply knows how to protect the pocket. He can slide his feet and doesn't get beat inside, but he has the length and technique to protect the edge.

Tennessee Titans

Record: 9-7

Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois

They've devoted some draft attention to it in recent years, but the Titans' pass rush still needs help. Only Tampa Bay had more of a struggle getting to opposing passers last year. People talk about the quarterback situation in Tennessee, but I think it was the lack of a pass rush that kept the Titans (barely) out of the playoffs last year. Mercilus is, quite simply, a pass-rusher. I like his athleticism and uncanny ability to beat blockers. He needs a good combine to cement his status, but he could move even higher, and might be a good value here. The Titans need someone who can breathe on an opposing quarterback.

Cincinnati Bengals

Record: 9-7

* David DeCastro, G, Stanford

I have guard as one of the top needs for the Bengals, and they won't do any better than DeCastro at this spot. A player who plays with exceptional awareness, DeCastro is the kind of guard who helps you crack off bigger gains in the run and screen game because he gets a great initial punch, but will also get to the second level and throw great blocks out in space. Again, I don't think Cincy gets enough value here at running back, but DeCastro helps the run game, too.

Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta)

Record: 4-12

Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

Cleveland needs help at wide receiver but may not be able to get it in free agency, and Wright is a player who can provide an element the Browns don't have right now. The pick makes sense on both need and value. Wright quietly had a season that almost matched Blackmon's in the Big 12. Greg Little was inconsistent but certainly showed a lot of promise as a rookie, and Wright is a good complement. He's smaller at about 5-10, 190 pounds, but adds a speed threat this offense really needs. He'll stretch the field with speed. The Browns need weapons, and Wright fits the profile.

Detroit Lions

Record: 10-6

Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama

At one time, Jenkins was destined to be a top-10 pick, and his talent level hasn't dipped. After exiting Florida, he spent a year at North Alabama, and is finally ready for the NFL. As a pure cover corner, in terms of pure instincts, ball skills and athleticism, you're looking at a potential Pro Bowl player. Jenkins is already a major threat in the return game. He has a history, but get him in the right system, and you could have a star. We know Detroit needs help at corner, and Jenkins might be too much value to pass up here.

Pittsburgh Steelers

Record: 12-4

* Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis

The Steelers are always going to find answers under the brilliant Dick LeBeau, but they have to get younger, particularly up front, and they know it. Poe is that rare zero-technique centerpiece to a 3-4 defense, the guy who simply eats up blockers and frees up the linebackers. If he develops, Poe can be the heir to Casey Hampton in the middle of that scheme, and these guys are just really tough to find. The value lines up as well.

Denver Broncos

Record: 8-8

Devon Still, DT, Penn St.

Denver has the pass rush off the edge but could add some depth on the interior, and Still is a guy who can penetrate and get tackles for loss from the inside. The Broncos could go a few ways here, which is actually a good thing as they pursue value, and I could certainly look for them to target a corner at this spot, but Still makes a lot of sense in that scheme. I have wide receiver down as a need, but they have a pretty good combo there right now, and given the struggles the offense could face, they need to be able to get stops.

Houston Texans

Record: 10-6

* Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan St.

Houston did an exceptional job in last year's draft, locking up players who would fit in Wade Phillips' system. And even the injury Mario Williams suffered didn't derail them. Worthy, when he's on his game, can be really dynamic. He has a really good burst for his size, allowing him to penetrate and be really disruptive against both the run and the pass. He'll tie up blockers because he can be really hard to neutralize one on one. He just needs to be consistent, but if Houston can rotate him in, it'll get good production early.

New England Patriots (from Saints)

Record: 13-3

Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall

Curry is a really good pass-rusher for a team that needs to find some help in that area. I'm not sure he's the best candidate to play OLB in a 3-4, but Bill Belichick can scheme around his personnel as well as anybody, and if he loves a pass-rusher, he'll find a way to make it work. Curry has violent hands and can really get a tackle off-balance. He can also swim to the inside. The Patriots need to add talent to the front seven, and Curry is a start.

Green Bay Packers

Record: 15-1

Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame

The Packers are another team that should be looking for the best value possible at either safety or cornerback, and Smith provides value here. What I like about Smith is his ability to do it all. He's not the world's greatest athlete, but any scout will tell you: At this position, you take the instincts over the athlete 100 out of 100 times. Smith gets great jumps in coverage and will get in passing lanes, but he's also outstanding in run support. You don't lose ground in one area when he's out there.

Baltimore Ravens

Record: 12-4

Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

With Ray Lewis' decision to come back for another year, the Ravens might be a little less desperate to find the next great linebacker, and can instead hit another big need. Matt Birk will need a replacement at center, and Konz is the best one in the draft. He's like a good quarterback, picking up every blitz and stunt, and has the kind of smarts in calling out things that will really help the quarterback. The Ravens were a mess up front for portions of 2011 and will need to add help there.

San Francisco 49ers

Record: 13-3

* Rueben Randle, WR, LSU

Randle could be a steal. This is a guy who, in a more dynamic passing offense, could have been far more productive. Obviously, the combine will tell us a lot, but Randle could be preferred over Alshon Jeffery of South Carolina, because he has the length, but will be a lot quicker into and out of his breaks because he's got a leaner frame. He's better suited to beat opposing defenses over the top. The Niners need a big target in the passing game outside ofVernon Davis, and Randle could be that guy.

New England Patriots

Record: 13-3

Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut

We've seen the value of Vince Wilfork, and while Reyes isn't the size of a city block, he certainly has some of the traits of a guy who can help a defense similarly. When he gets good leverage (which he usually does), Reyes is really strong and will get offensive linemen up off their feet as he pushes them into the backfield. He's not going to shed blocks as a brilliant pass-rusher would, but Reyes can develop into the guy who makes everybody else a better pass-rusher because he demands so much blocking help.

New York Giants

Record: 9-7

* Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson

The Super Bowl will provide plenty of good memories for Giants fans, but from a personnel standpoint, people should also remember the injuries they suffered at tight end, and Allen is the best one in this draft. He's a fantastic athlete, can create matchup problems and further diversify the Giants' offense as they maximize this window of exceptional quarterback play. The Giants could also look for help on the offensive line, or target a linebacker here, but I expect Allen's profile to rise during the workout process, and he should represent a lot of value here

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as long as we have the sleestack taking snaps we better build up the line. im tired of the melting witch drop back.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Who"

Billy Lee Cameron?

Cundiff, Evans, Cam?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 15, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting mock. Browns grabbing RG and Wright would be scary.

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 15, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

We'll see

but right now you gotta believe the only way the Browns get RG3 is if they give #22 to the Rams to move up to #2. Unless RG3 flames out at the combine, and I expect the opposite will happen, some team will give the Rams a truck load for that pick. The Browns are still in the best position with the # 4 & 22 to trade, but if they don’t pull the trigger I’ll bet the Skins, Phins or Hawks will.

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by Fandemonium on Feb 15, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

There is the possibility of say Peyton to the skins and Flynn to the dolphins which both teams have been rumored to be very interested in each, but someone definitely could very well trade up to get him.

On Ed Reed:
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by AV23 on Feb 15, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm hearing if Peyton is healthy (which he isn't)

the Texans are a definite possibility, then he can haunt the Colts twice per year.

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by Bruce Raffel on Feb 15, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It was more just rumored peyton would like to be a Texan. Someone close to the Texans said they aren’t really interested.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
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by AV23 on Feb 15, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking Titans for the same reason

good running game, Kenny Britt, good defense…Peyton puts them over the top, but I’m not sure how invested they are in Locker.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 15, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree both teams

could possibly win the AFC South, especially the texans if Peyton were healthy. Throwing to AJ, with Mario re-signed to THAT defense?

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by Bruce Raffel on Feb 16, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that the Texans signing Peyton would mean that Mario would end up somewhere else.

by Mayne_Event on Feb 16, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

And to the above notion about the Titans making a play for Peyton, I do not believe that will happen as I think the Titans are quite happy with the progress Locker has made and with keeping Hasselbeck along to help ease Locker into the starting position the later part of the 2012 season and as a mentor to young padawan Jake.

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by vlad755 on Feb 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're the Browns

what stops you from giving up the #22 pick? In an increasingly QB driven league, they have a chance to get a prospect who many say could be the #1 overall pick, depending on how teams value Luck/Griffin. I know losing a 1st rounder is tough, but QB is such an essential position, it might be well worth it.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 15, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

griffin will be a bust

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had to bet

I would take the Browns mking the trade. Only good nesw is they won’t get a WR to go with him at 22.

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by Fandemonium on Feb 16, 2012 6:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I would do it too but

we all know how bad the Browns are at making good decisions…

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by Bruce Raffel on Feb 16, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

holy crap…someone else on here at the same time….even though its just little georges raven.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

What is this “Little George’s” you speak of?

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 15, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the number 1 place of employment in westminster.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

next to the cafeteria at mcdaniel college.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty sure there’s not a Little Georges up there, I’ll have to check though. Last one I remember was where Deer Park Rd. connects to 32. Pretty sure they’re out of business.

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 15, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah…im pretty sure they are too. you should have seen the locals working there.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

deer park and 32? i remember that place. westminster farm hookers pimped themselves out there for pemberton beef jerky and scratch offs.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure about the farm hookers, but yea, it wasn’t the classiest of places. Pretty sure it’s a vacant lot now. You should buy it and put something cool in.

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 15, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, let me solve Westminsters problem. Here we go. First- Turn it over to the college and the intellectuals. Then get rid of all the heroin heads that live behind the dorms and scare the shit out of all the sorority girls who are simply trying to get hammered and walk home unsanduskyed. Lastly, put in the worlds largesy outdoor climate controlled putt putt course that serves booze and plays bob marley 24-7. Maybe free taxi rides….should be mayor.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the unsexy pick…and if he is goner…does oz trade down and double up?

by Evan Skev on Feb 15, 2012 8:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Still concerned about his habit of getting injured, missed 3 games this year and two games in each of the previous 2 years.

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by Fandemonium on Feb 15, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This why I’m not as big on the pick as well. Rather trade down and go for his teammate Zeitler in the 2nd if we really are set on an interior OL with the first pick.

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by AV23 on Feb 15, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

keep your fantasies to yourself

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

I would like to see us get Sean Spence

in the 3-4th rounds. The man is a stud. Just undervalued

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by Zachary Beard on Feb 15, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Def would like another mcphee pick this year… With Flacco becoming a top QB, this Baltimore team could be ridic for the next 5

by Evan Skev on Feb 15, 2012 9:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Just so you know Bruce

You can get in some trouble for posting ESPN Insider articles on a blog site where people did not pay for them can see them. I know one person from Mocking The Draft got their account deleted because they posted some McShay insider ranking in a fan post.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 15, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

hail yeah

Good thinking on MaLors part but we all appreciate you hooking us up. I hate when I go to NFL.com and the only decent looking story is an insider article.

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by shines on Feb 16, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

quit crying bitch

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

bruce rolls like bruce wants to roll

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Is it warm in the North Point Library tonight on Holabird Ave? I know that’s where you like to hang out towards the end of each month when the electric bills come around.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 15, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

bills come regardless of where you hang yo. my girl pays’em. if she cant pay’em, i get another girl who has her priorities straight. all how you train them. Holabirds the bomb man. I gots Marrs Super Market! BAM! Free Enfamil all day every day yo.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

on another note…when’s Cushing getting tested for roids? his brains gone.

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by raven on Feb 15, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for posting this Bruce, keep posting Kipers and McShays Mocks if you can

Helps us get through the drolls of the offseason. I like the Koonz pick personally, we have to take koonz if we lose Birk or Grubbs.

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by sethg28 on Feb 16, 2012 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

We could plug Konz in at LG if Grubbs goes, and bring Gurode back for the year and address LG next year. Anyone else hoping Burfict gets a DUI or something soon to send him into the second round. Picking up Konz and Burfict in first 2 rounds would be sweetest 2 rounder since Flacco/Rice. And the best Pass Rusher available in round 3 and Joe Adams in round 5. One can dream.

by AtticusStapesy on Feb 16, 2012 5:38 AM EST up reply actions  

All good points

I could agree to that, or move Jah Reid to LG and have Konz backup Gurode at the beginning of the season.

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by Bruce Raffel on Feb 16, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I wish that Jah could play LG, I don’t think it would end well for anyone, most of all, Rice. I said on another thread, our offense only operates when Rice gets going, that’s a statistical fact. Putting Jah in at LG could be so bad for our run game. I’d rather just have Birk back and Gurode in at LG. Or, we’ll be able to pick up a FA left guard. Putting a rookie RT in the interior line terrifies me.

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Gurode got failing grades from Filmstudy at LG. No way we bring him back to play guard.

LG is usually regarded as an easier place to play than RT. Jah was a third round pick with great measurables. He should have the talent to play anywhere on the line.

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by El.Dude on Feb 16, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think he has potential to do it. You certainly have to monitor it and see how well he does there, but he has potential. I will be shocked if we don’t add a G though this off-season whether through draft or FA.

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by AV23 on Feb 16, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d still rather have Gurode who played at LG this season and Center his whole career over a young, raw RT. If Jah can do it and the running game doesn’t suffer, great. But I don’t see it happening anytime soon. Has Jah ever played interior line even in college? If Rice suffers, we all suffer, that’s just an unfortunate fact. We lose games when Rice doesn’t get going and it all starts with the line….which played way too poorly down the stretch as is with the guys we have now. My opion is that adding a young RT to the interior line with maybe no experience whatsoever could turn an already fragile situation into a desperate one. If we don’t retain Grubbs, I think we’ll add a G through FA, especially if Birk retires.

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yanda was a 3rd round RG who played some RT, so I am not counting out Jah Reid who was a 3rd round RT being able to play LG. You never know…

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 16, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got nothing against Jah, and if he can play LG, great. Just don’t want the running game to suffer for it if he doesn’t pan out there. Ozzie will figure it all out, I’m sure he’s not thrilled with the line play late in the season too.

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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 16, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He has practiced their a bit through the season so at least he already has his foot in the door there.

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by AV23 on Feb 16, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

should you really be copying and pasting an entire column that is behind the ESPN paywall?

feel like that is typically frowned upon

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by Gamecock24 on Feb 16, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

I love how mock drafts always have the Ravens picking based on need.

That’s not going to happen… It will be—and always has been—the best player available.

by BAL_Hawk on Feb 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

The majority got it right last year though with Jimmy Smith. But the great things about this years draft is that we have multiple needs and there will be a bunch of players at those positions that fall to us I.E Pass Rusher, WR, ILB, OG, OT, OC, etc. So it will be whoever is the best on the board.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s true, but I think that was a rare instance where need met the BPA.

by BAL_Hawk on Feb 16, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Good players seem to fall every year in the first round for a variety of reasons. I’m sure that will happen again this draft.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 16, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Konz would be a nice, safe pick, but if Rueben Randle has a good combine and pre-draft workouts, he could be hard to pass up if he’s there at 29. He’s a BIG receiver that can run and catch the ball…something we need on offense.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 16, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

I Said it Before

And I will say it again, I think Minnesota at #3 is the real wildcard in all this. No way St. Louis drafts Luck or RG3, and everybody and their mother knows that Cleveland will draft the non-Indy of The Big Two, so that gives Minnesota “maximum leverage” as they say in the sales biz with both Cleveland and any suitors such as DC. If Danny Boy decides RG3 is “his guy”, then Merry Early Christmas to the Vikings as they could probably get a truckload of booty from the deadskins, and leave Danny Boy saying, “Call me…” after they trade-rape him…

Could make for some very entertaining TV early in the draft…

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by vlad755 on Feb 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I believe

No way STL holds onto #2. They are in the catbird seat and will be the trade rapist of this draft. If someone wants RG3 they’ll have to go through STL.

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by Fandemonium on Feb 16, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re probably right unless St. Louis gets too greedy, and no one wants to pay their price.

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by El.Dude on Feb 17, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Trust me, someone has already fallen in love with Griffin.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 17, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you send him a valentine?

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by El.Dude on Feb 17, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

RG3 is going to be the #2 overall pick, no question about it. STL is going to get a sweet deal for that one.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 17, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

STL isn't gonna move down too far

they NEED either Kalil or Blackmon. Gotta have a top tier LT or WR to give Bradford some help. I agree they trade down, but it won’t be like the ATL trade last year, they’ll want to stay in the top 5-7 range I think.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 17, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yea, for sure. Either Miami, Washington or Cleveland (all in the top 10) trade up to get Griffin, or a team like Seattle moves up from 12 to get him.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don’t know if STL can afford to move out of the top 10 and miss the premier WR or LT. They do need tons of help though. Gonna be a very interesting draft.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 17, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think STL would rather have more draft picks than a couple high ones. They’ve got a lot of holes to fill on their roster.

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by El.Dude on Feb 17, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that’s what they should do, but it’s gonna be hard to look away from either Kalil or Blackmon. If they can get 2-3 extra picks and only move down a few spots and possibly still grab one of those guys, that’s probably their dream scenario.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 17, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I will actually be shocked if Blackmon goes top 5. He’s the best WR in the draft, but pretty much only freak WR’s go top 5. Blackmon is expected to run in the 4.5 range, which isn’t bad if you are 6’3 or 4, but he’s only 6’1. I personally see him dropping because when you look at past WR’s in the top 5 most are 6’3 to 6’5 guys who are running in the 4.4’s or faster. I just don’t think Blackmon is as physically gifted as some of the other top WR’s in other drafts. Not saying he won’t be good or anything, but from a prospect perspective I don’t think he is anywhere near an AJ Green and he went at 4 and you could make the case that he’s not even at Julio’s level who went at 6. I think he will see a dip in his draft stock.

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"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
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by AV23 on Feb 18, 2012 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Good info, thanks

I’m not a big college sports fan, so my draft expertise is based mostly on seeing the mocks and what the people here talk about haha.

STL is lucky some QBs decided to stay in college, because they could get a huge deal for a team wanting RG3.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 18, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol yeah I get very bored at work and I’m obsessed with football, so this helps pass the time til the season starts.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 18, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hearing rumors that Cleveland is likely to move up for him, so STL would be in a great position. They would get another 1st and will get to pick either the top or 2nd person on their board.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 17, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Fucking hell. Gotta deal with Ben, Dalton and Griffen 6 times a year if that is true…

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah this division was already arguably the best this year and it’s continuing to get better. It’s going to be a war in the next few seasons.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 17, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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