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Randy Moss A Raven?

The Ravens have come out and said that they are looking to upgrade at the receiver position. Randy Moss has said that he would like to come back and play in the NFL. Sounds like a good match right?

I guess that would all depend on how much Moss has left in the tank. A trio of Moss, Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith looks great on paper. That is if Moss still has the ability to get behind defenders. Moss has always been a freak athletically but he is no where near his prime.

There are several reasons Moss could help this team. One of them being him playing mentor to Torrey Smith. What better guy to challenge our young deep threat than Moss. It would be a luxury for Smith to have one of the best deep threats in the game showing him the ropes.

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Another way he could help the offense is to open up the field for Boldin. with Smith and Moss on the outside Anquan could line up in his best position of slot receiver. Safeties would have to respect the Ravens deep passing game, keeping their safeties deep on both sides. This could do wonders for Ray Rice as well. The more space you can create fro Rice the better.

So what do you think? Should the Ravens give Moss a shot?

I think he is at least worth bringing in for a try out. I'm sure if given the choice he would much rather come to a contender. Another big question is, what does Randy Moss think Randy Moss is worth these days? I'm sure he would want at least a couple million. If he is 70% of what he was in his prime, I think he's worth it...

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Pass. I mentioned this in another post that these veteran stop gaps just aren’t working. We need to work on developing some of the young talent we already have and add to it. This is an extremely deep WR class including a lot of bigger guys that can run. It’s time to stop with these 1 year stop gaps and make a real effort to solidifying a group that can work together for a few years.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 AM EST reply actions  

Although I agree for the most part, this is still Randy Moss

If he truly has another year left, he’d be a great add. Our core nucleus of receivers (Boldin, Smith, PItta, Dickson, Doss) will still be here for years to come so it won’t mess up the continuity too badly. I say give him a look at least. We clearly cannot afford to get some of the big names that we want. Moss will certainly be a lot cheaper and could be this year’s “steal”

by fedfan64 on Feb 14, 2012 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

He also hasn’t played in over a year and throughout his career has been off and on in terms of giving it his all. Not the habits I would prefer our young WR’s to learn from and I don’t think it’s worth it for one year and having to miss out on a potential stud in this years draft.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

According to Chris Carter, Moss can still run a 4.3 forty. If he were a few years younger and less of a “diva” for all of those years, I’d be more open to signing Moss.

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"

by WestminsterRaven on Feb 14, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

Just hoping he isn’t giving Ray a call and telling him how much he wants to be here. Cause if Ray goes and tells Ozzie to get him, it might just happen.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

If Ray says "Get him,"

I agree with Ray. It’s not good to disagree with Ray Ray. Bottom line.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Cause if Ray goes and tells Ozzie to get him, it might just happen.

Ray needs to keep his nose out of the Offense’s business.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel

by Ampallang on Feb 14, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

So does Cam….

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"

by WestminsterRaven on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Just Smith. The rest can’t get separation anymore.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

we said the samething about Mason, Boldin, and Houshmanzdeh . I saw no to moss & to

get a wideout in the draft that has the potentials to become like moss or to

by jazz20 on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

If it did for some odd reason happen, I would welcome him being here. But as of right now, we do not need him. Housh didn’t work, Evans didn’t work (but might end up alright) so why would this work?

Rather go to the draft to improve this. Alshon Jeffrey and Michael Floyd > Moss and TO.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

I agree, but in all likelihood, we won't get a shot at those guys in the draft.

We’re notorious for bringing in veteran guys. If Moss still has the speed, why not? Our locker room is strong

by fedfan64 on Feb 14, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

We are notorious for it and that is the reason our WR core sucks every year.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

It also hurts the young guys like Doss, williams, reed, and etc. I truely beleive the ravens should just go after a wideout in the draft

and let the young guys grow in training camp. If the young guys dont show any progress then sign a veteran well if evans around then it wont be necessary

by jazz20 on Feb 14, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

It also hurts the young guys like Doss, williams, reed, and etc. I truely beleive the ravens should just go after a wideout in the draft

and let the young guys grow in training camp. If the young guys dont show any progress then sign a veteran well if evans around then it wont be necessary

by jazz20 on Feb 14, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

but in all likelihood, we won’t get a shot at those guys in the draft.

2012 draft prospect wideouts like Jeff Fuller, Brain Quick, Stephen Hill, Marvin Mcnutt, Alshon Jefferey,Derek moye, Nelson Rosario, Tommy Streeter, Juron Criner, Dwight Jones ,Rueben Randle all are big tall physical wideouts and have the potentials to be red zone threat/deep threats that i believe that ravens have a good chance at drafting.

by jazz20 on Feb 14, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Much rather draft one of these guys. Not only does it keep our younger guys from developing, but it makes Flacco have to drastically change who he is throwing to every year. It would be nice just to let him have basically the same core of guys to throw to.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Stephen Hill

looks to be a beast and if her could put a few pounds on that 6’5" frame, he could be the next VJax, or fellow Yellow Jacket, Demaryius Thomas.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't get rid of Evans.

He really never had a chance being hurt and poor play calling. He made one hell of a catch in the Texan game, then we shit the bed at the goal line. I still think Evans could help if he is healthy and we have a training camp. He decoyed the Steelers in the first game so we could dominate.

by TheShadow on Feb 14, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

and he has zero negotiating leverage as well.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 2:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

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"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 9:23 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Aw Geez, Jimmy!

I wrote a story on this last night, scheduled to post at 1pm today. Great minds think alike!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

People are saying we already have a guy who can stretch the field

Moss also is 6’4" with great hands. Even if he isn’t the Moss he used to be, he’d be a great red zone threat for Flacco

by fedfan64 on Feb 14, 2012 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

he’d be a great red zone threat for Flacco

One of the few positives of bringing him in if it happens. We know how to score in the redzone, just not TD’s…

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Huge difference in voting

from when I asked if we should sign TO. +60% said “no”

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

Sure, why not.

Low risk, high reward.

by E-ROC on Feb 14, 2012 9:53 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Why not the future ?

What is this obsession with the past; big names; old glories? IF he is still fast, iF he still has moves; iF he doesn’t have an ego too big to fit in his helmet; it is still a MISTAKE to bother with him. B-u-i-l-d a team. Build chemistry. Stop making Flacco get used to new receivers every year – maybe he becomes the elite quarterback we know him to be.

by DennisH in Raleigh on Feb 14, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

This is exactly how I feel… Congrats on a good career, Mr moss

by Evan Skev on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

thank you. my thoughts exactly

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

YESSS!

Sign him to a 3 year deal. Guy is a hall of gamer. Better than Mason, Boldin, Evans, and housh. There is nothing wrong with having two deep threats. Some say he will stunt the growth of Torrey. If anything he won’t have as many targets. With those two in the outside Boldin and Pitta can really work the middle. We are really one player away from the Super Bowl. I say we do it. Sign him early though so he and Flacco and get in the same page.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 10:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Jerry Rice is a hall of famer to should we give him a call? Moss has a questionable work ethic and you really don’t know what Moss you are getting. The one from NE a few years ago or the one who doesn’t like to finish his routes. Through his first couple games with Tennessee he had more Offensive PI’s then he did catches. We aren’t one player away from the Super Bowl we clearly showed we are already talented enough to get there.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s a shady 35 year old has been with a shitty attitude

by Evan Skev on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Did you really say Jerry Rice. That was dumb. I think he is humbled now, since no one wanted him last yr.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No onw will have to give Moss

more than a one or two year deal with incentives.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Sign him to a 3 year deal.

I stopped reading after this…you can not be serious.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 14, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You can sign him to ten years

And cut him after one week. In the NFL, a contract means nothing from the owners side.

by TheShadow on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

depending on the bonus and everything

you will lose money from cutting players on most contracts

by YeahDonnie on Feb 14, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys like what

Randy “straight cash homie” Moss? He isn’t going to play for the vet minimum, and anything above that would be too much for a washed up locker room cancer.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 15, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The washed up part is more important than the cancer part, but they’re both enough to make me not want him on the team.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 15, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Lofa Tatupu is a free agent, might be good.

But can he work in a 3-4. Do we know if Pees will still use the 3-4?

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 10:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

He was one last year though but had pretty major knee surgery. Pass

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Even if he passes a physical.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess if he’s completely healthy now and comes really cheap he could be worth a flier, but I would only want to do that assuming we lose Mcclain.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

My brilliant idea?

Let JJ and Grubbs walk. Sign Mario Williams and put him at the other side form Sizzle in the OLB spot. Imagine THAT defense. Talk about pass pressure.!!!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Rather not pull off that move. Getting Williams would eliminate any other spending and while we can never have enough pass rushers that’s too much invested in it when we are just coming off being 3rd in sacks. Rather use it elsewhere

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll pass

Let some other team make Williams the highest paid defensive player in football. We can save that money for Webb.

by DT711 on Feb 15, 2012 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Had a solid season. Wouldn’t mind giving him a look.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that I think about it we need a dominant #2. We loss many of championship games due to drop passes. I wouldn’t be opposed to signing moss or anyone else.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I meant a dominant core. Didn’t mean to over look Torrey. If we don’t get Moss we should go after Reggie Wayne.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Very much so.

Didn’t see the Saints, Packers, Steelers, Colts, Chargers, etc signing a bunch of vets to “help” their QB out. All those teams built through the draft and their QB’s became dominant because of chemistry, continuity and familiarity.

Boldin is fine, Torrey is perfect, Evans….not sure. If Ozzie wants to improve the WR group, go after Jeffrey, Floyd or Sanu in the first, go after Streeter, Hill, Quick in the 2nd.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

No I’m not tired of it. Mason was on the wrong side of 30 when be came thru. Boldin is now on the wrong side of 30. We tried drafting receivers it didn’t work out before Smith. We messed up with signing #2 receivers who were on there last leg. Signing a legit receiver that still can produce is what I’m saying.

We may not get either of them though. I can see Ozzie watching Doss carefully before signing someone.

by Raven_all_day on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Signing a legit receiver that still can produce is what I’m saying.

And who is this legit receiver you speak of? It certainly ain’t Moss or Owens.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And how is 31 years old the wrong side of 30?

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What side of 30 are TO and Moss on?

I’m pretty damn sure its a worse side than Boldins on.

by DT711 on Feb 15, 2012 7:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Housh had no excuse for dropping that pass.

Evans SHOULD have held onto the ball, but hey, the defensive player made a great play. He was having a great game until that point. If he stays healthy for an entire season, he’ll be great.

We need a big, tall receiver to serve as a red zone threat for Flacco. Our tallest receiver is what, 6’1"?

by fedfan64 on Feb 14, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Moss was able to run some of the crispest routes I remember seeing… and this was just a few years ago. He doesn’t have the speed of his prime, but I’m willing to bet that he still has enough to find a little bit of separation. Given that we would probably sign him to a vet minimum contract for 1 year, I really don’t see the harm in bringing in a HOF WR to compete for a job. If he acts a fool, he gets cut and he doesn’t automatically get any position on the team until he proves that he still has something in the tank.

Basically its such a low risk/high reward type of move, I don’t see any issues with it.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 14, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t have any issues with it either IF it does happen, but it just does not seem logical.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Because this has been the same case for every old WR we bring in here and then we are all livid because we have expectations of them regaining their glory here. We are not an offense designed to resurrect older receivers who are past their prime. It’s this mentality that keeps us having a sub par WR core. We will never get Flacco to where we want to be by constantly changing the WR core and throwing old vets past their prime in there and then blame Flacco for not succeeding with them based on their name and what they did years ago. Moss got benched on the Titans who didn’t even have Kenny Britt at the time. Really do not see him as a Raven type of player.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

you state the obvious but somehow so many disagree…

i have a hard time entertaining the mere thought of taking on Moss with such an absurdly deep WR class. Potential starters are to be had in the 3rd round. Streeter or Hill could fall that far.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 12:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Agreed. Moss is an insanely talented WR, but he is past his prime and I honestly don’t think he’s the best guy to help lead a young WR group. He has a lot of bad habits and is more of a diva type WR and with such a young group of guys I don’t think that’s what will be best for the group as a whole.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points

Whatever Ozzie decides, I’ll be good with it.

by fedfan64 on Feb 14, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He is a quitter and no one argues that, well except Moss. By no means is he getting the 1st WR spot, or the 2nd right by signing. The guy will have to fight for his position on the depth chart or be cut and he knows that’s the deal with pretty much every team. The guy brings baggage with him and that’s why he had difficulty on teams with new leaders (Minn and Tenn).

Moss is a guy who always had difficulty with his ego and that has gotten him into trouble. The few times in his career when he had someone help him put that aside, he was a world beater. When everyone counted him out, he became a world beater. With our veterans and coaches, I really see him having 1 more good year where he at least takes some pressure off another WR.

Because this has been the same case for every old WR

Moss isn’t Boldin or Mason or the ever hurt Evans. Moss is a HOF WR that just recently was able to put up record numbers in the Pats passing attack. For vet minimum on a 1 year contract with incentives, I don’t see how this is a bad thing. If he acts like an ass, he fins another team and we lose nothing. If he is too old to perform, we cut him and lose nothing. If he’s mediocre, he fights for the 3rd WR spot with Evans and we let him go next year. If he gets back to his old self, we have a guy that is good for 10+ TDs and 1200+ yards.

No one knows if he is past his prime or if he was just pulling the same ol Randy Moss routine in which he sulks and does nothing until motivated. For the vet minimum, I’d say its worth the price to find out.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

We could just cut him, but then we run the risk of missing out on a WR in the draft or possibly cutting one of the young guys we already have. Not worth it.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 16, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really. We would possibly lose out on a guy that was a bubble player at best. Moss is better than some guy that might barely make the team and probably be a practice squad scrub. Lets be honest here, we probably won’t be dropping Flacco or any other starter this decade for Moss so lets tune it down a bit.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 17, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not talking about a Starter, but that we may not draft a WR in a deep class who would be around for years instead of one or losing out on a guy like Doss or Laquan who have both shown flashes of potential.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 18, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t stop us from drafting a guy. Its not like we are giving up a draft pick for Moss. You just cut a guy like a Mattison that is on the bubble that at best would be a filler player. If we do anything in FA we would have the same exact problem, so I don’t really understand what you mean here.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Moss is a HOF WR that just recently was able to put up record numbers in the Pats passing attack.

2007…5 years ago, that’s an eternity in the NFL. Moss’ talent is gone, and there is NO WAY he brings a positive attitude and work ethic as a #3 receiver.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 16, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

2009 actually. He had over 1200 yards and 13 TDs. After that was 1 year when his attitude got him cut a few times and a year away from the league. As long as he understands he is going to be a #3, it is what it is.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 17, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are good numbers, but not record setting

and after that he was horrible in 2010, which was why he didn’t have a job this past season. As far as being a #3, I don’t think he’ll ever accept that. His ego is too massive, he will cause problems eventually.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 18, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Its more than any WR we’ve had in town recently. I think any team would love to get that production from a vet minimum contract. He was horrible in his latest season because he was with the Vikings and Tenn teams without QBs. Give him a strong armed QB, and you get stats like the above..

His ego is massive and its certainly a risk as with most of the WRs out there. But like I’ve mentioned, you sign him to a incentive based contract and if he screws up, becomes a diva or doesn’t perform you cut him. Its a no risk/ high reward situation.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The last time everyone thought he was over the hill, was the time he was in Oakland. The next year, he had 23 TDs and 1500 yards. Even if he comes at the same cost as Evans, I have to imagine that he would perform better than Evans did this year.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 17, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He wasn't 35 then

Evans will perform better than Evans did if he comes back, you can’t really hold that injury against him. Evans will be a more productive player at this point in their careers, and he won’t cause locker room problems.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 18, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You can actually hold that injury against him. The guy has been injury prone and that factors into a WRs value. I like Evans and I think next year he will do significantly better than this year if we keep him around. However, given that Moss would come for cheap and could be kept in check by the veterans, I don’t see a negative about giving the guy a very tiny contract with incentives.

I absolutely know the locker room would keep him in check. Between the coaches and guys like Reed and Ray, Moss wouldn’t give us any fits. Keep in mind that we aren’t the Vikings with a lame coach and absolutely no veteran presence. Moss would know that if he steps out of line, he very well could get the Chris Mac treatment and find himself out of football permanently. Also given that we have gone after guys with attitude problems like him before (Owens, to an extent Mason, etc), I don’t think it would be a huge stretch to say that we have interest in the guy with the best hands and feet in the league, especially knowing how great Moss has always been at the medium range out patterns and how well Joe throws them.

If Moss is half the player he still thinks he is, he’ll hit some good incentives and raise that contract up a bit while we march to a SuperBowl ring. If he isn’t, then we lose absolutely nothing by having him on the team or cutting him outright.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 22, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

A few years is a very long time in the NFL…think about the players who seemed invincible in 2008

by Evan Skev on Feb 14, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

People thought the same thing when he was in Oakland when he got with NE. Then he had a career year and everyone forgot their statements. The guy lives up to that big stage when people doubt him, its just after that when he starts to suck again.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 16, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He was also playing with this guy named Brady and wasn’t out of the league for a whole year.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 16, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The same Brady that was throwing balls all over the place this season, except his WR’s hands?

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 17, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

This season? The guy had a 105 rating and 39 TD’s to 12 INT’s. Yeah what a bum.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 18, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of that comes from throwing a 5 yard completion and a guy making enough moves to turn it into a 60 yard completion with a TD. The guy isn’t a bum by any means, but he certainly isn’t everything that everyone always turns him into. His scheme and the players around him elevate him significantly.

Monkey Feces for OC!

by Mstevens_Design on Feb 22, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I can understand and respect all the reasons for not signing Moss. He’s old, you can’t expect him to give 100% on every play, he hasn’t played well in recent memory (ever since he left the Patriots), and his presence would be a roadblock to the development of the likes of Doss and Williams. However, what I keep coming back to is that the Ravens have retained Cam Cameron and his offensive system, and that system works best with at least two deep threats. I just don’t see that second deep threat on the roster right now. I’m not saying we should rush out and sign Moss ASAP, but I don’t think his availability is something we can easily dismiss, either.

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by Ampallang on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t encourage the minions Amp.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I really just don’t think he’s the type of personality we typically go after and this draft is deep with big guys who can run. I think it hurts Flacco’s development by keep throwing in these older guys who are only here for a year or two and think these projects just haven’t worked. At this point we only would use him to go deep. Even though most rookie WR’s take longer to develop we wouldn’t be asking much of them other than go deep. I think we could fill that 3rd WR role with one of these bigger rookie WR’s and give Flacco some youth he can grow with. This is too talented of a class to not take advantage of it.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Torrey is our future number one. No thanks on Randy Moss.

by JoshuaStein on Feb 14, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

This

I would contend that Torrey currently is our #1, at least on the outside, with Boldin as the #2, operating in the slot WHERE HE BELONGS- are you listening Cam Jim? Either Evans, a rookie burner or FA burner operates on the other outside as the #3, and Doss as the #4, ’Quan as the #5.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

quan as the 5?

what?

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 4:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Laquan.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Feb 14, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

oh my bad. quan usually refrs to anquan

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 10:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

< facepalm > < fail >

…you are right; I should have been a little more clear…

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no way in hell Ozzie even considers this

Moss has been out of football for a year because nobody wanted him last year. Doesn’t anyone remember how terrible he was 2 years ago with NE/Min/Ten? He was the #1 option in those places, except maybe NE, and he still quit on those teams. He’d be the #3 option here, so how can anybody think he’d be willing to accept a much lesser role and actually compete hard?

100% NO to Moss.

by YeahDonnie on Feb 14, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Not only no.............

But hell no. Washed up, clubhouse cancer.

by Grandpaallewis on Feb 16, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

no

i dont think Moss has a whole lot left in the tank. I believe the Ravens best way to win is to run the ball first. With a receiver like Moss he will ge p oed if he doesnt get the ball. May be a cancer in the lockerroom

by nyghtwatch on Feb 16, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

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