Better Fit For Ravens: Randy Moss Or Terrell Owens?
After the readers of Baltimore Beatdown have spoken regarding whether or not they think WR Terrell Owens could have helped the Ravens last season, now comes the announcement that WR Randy Moss wants to get back into the NFL as well. Both receivers have Hall of Fame credentials that could make them interesting possibilities somewhere in the league for the 2012 season.
Although almost 60% of Ravens fans responding to the poll on the Owens story said "No thanks," would those same people also give a thumbs down to Moss too? There are lots of similarities between the two wide-outs, some good, some not-so-good.
NFL.com debated which wide receiver is more likely to play again in the NFL.
(Let's take a look at both player's stats after the 'Jump')
Terrell Owens is 38 years old and has 15 years of NFL experience. He has the second most receiving yards in NFL history (15,934) behind Jerry Rice. Owens has 1,078 career receptions and 153 TD's over that span. His final full season was in 2010 with the Cincinnati Bengals when he caught 72 passes for 983 yards and nine TD's. Not bad at all, considering it was his first and only year with the Bengals. See a recent story on Owens Arena Football League debut next week at Sports Radio Interviews.
Randy Moss is 35 years old and has 13 years of NFL experience. He has the fifth most receiving yards (14,858) in NFL history behind Rice, Owens, Isaac Bruce and Tim Brown. Moss has 954 career receptions and also 153 TD's just like Owens. His final full season with the same team (New England Patriots) was 2009 when he caught 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 TD's. He did play 16 games in 2010, but it was split between the Patriots, Minnesota Vikings and Tennessee Titans and he didn't get a lot of playing time and never really made a noticeable impact for any of those three teams.
While it's obvious these two receivers will one day be enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the big question is do they have anything left in the tank and even if they do, would either be a safe fit with the Baltimore Ravens. An effective Owens or Moss would be another deep threat and cause defenses to not be able to focus on any one receiver in QB Joe Flacco's arsenal. Combined with Anquan Boldin, Torrey Smith, Ray Rice and both Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta, would there be enough balls to go spread around to keep such a volatile personality happy?
Would either guy fit into the locker room and respect veteran leader Ray Lewis as their leader? A locker room cancer could destroy a team, especially one with a quarterback that may not be the strongest nor most outspoken leader. Could head coach John Harbaugh, much less offensive coordinator Cam Cameron control these two guys, who have been known to disrespect their coaches as well as their teammates?
Or, could both guys be so mature after a year away from the game that they are looking for that elusive last chance at a Super Bowl ring and be willing to just be part of a team for the final opportunity to get what has eluded them throughout their respective careers? That's the bigger question which will decide this dilemma for Coach Harbaugh and GM Ozzie Newsome.
So, the question rears it's ugly head once again, albeit in a slightly different form: Who would you rather have on the Ravens next season - Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, or.....neither?
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NEITHER!
How are fans not done with this whole rent-a-receiver crap? It has yet to work out well for us, and this draft class is AMAZINGLY deep at WR.
There are potential starters to be had in the 3rd and 4th rounds! What the hell do we want with has-beens who might still have it and who are both proven locker room cancers?
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 1:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The Owens stuff might be yesterday's news but
this Moss thing is just heating up!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks to Espn
dont be surprised if nobody signs Moss.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 6:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'd be more surprised if someone did
his “retirement” last year was because nobody wanted him, not because he didn’t want to play.
He said he retired because he had familty issues and it was reported that there were teams interested in him last year and there are teams now that are interested in him
He said that now to save his ego from getting hurt
last year he was actively campaigning to join a team, specifically a playoff team, and nobody wanted him, so he retired. The family issues are BS and him just spinning the story.
Just hours after a report emerges that the Kansas City Chiefs have taken a closer look at Randy Moss as a free agent target, the always reliable Adam Schefter of ESPN has come out saying that Moss has chosen retirement. What an about face.
There are a couple of instant conclusions that come to mind when something like this is announced. Obviously, Moss was not finding a proper home for his talents — as teams might not have wanted the drama, wanted to get younger or simply didn’t believe that Moss was the player he once was. After all, Moss disappeared last season once he left the Patriots and coming back might have only blemished his reputation instead of adding another quality season to it.
Secondly, this announcement should be taken with some caution. Moss is the kind of personality who would certainly turn around a decision like that if given the right opportunity. In fact, the only way I would believe that Moss is completely finished in the league is if he fails to appear at all this year. In other words, seeing is believing with a player like Moss.
Honestly, the lack of quality wideouts in a pass-happy NFL should bring Moss back to the surface — at least that’s my guess. Those teams that look at their rookies and the remaining free agents will soon find a place for Moss, and at least they will call him and ask if he’s seriously out of it. We’ll find out then the substance of this announcement, but it is surprising seeing as Moss is one of the greatest active receivers in recent NFL history.
He had maybe a couple teams looking at him, but no offers. And those teams sucked, so he retired. Teams had injuries this year and could have used a WR, and nobody called him. He didn’t have a job last year for a reason.
Not to mention, this is the Randy Moss who said “I play when I want to play”. What gives anyone the idea that he’ll “want to play” as a #3 receiver with a very diminished role on a team like the Ravens who rarely run # WR sets? He WILL NOT be a Raven…ever.
I really think if the team is worried about getting a one of a kind, have to have him “special WR”, they’ll just trade up in the draft for someone like Flloyd. IF they really want to get that kind of guy that seems like the logical solution.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
"53 Mighty Men of Baltimore"
by WestminsterRaven on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Where is he projected to go? I’d hate a julio Jones situation
by Evan Skev on Feb 14, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
bottom half of 1st round. But honestly I’m convinced we’ll use the middle rounds. Streeter, McNutt, Hill all can be potential stars as well.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This. I just don’t get it either. We have tried this over and over again and all we have ever came up with is an average at best group. When you look at the top passing teams all their big receiving threats were drafted and developed with them. They allowed the QB’s and those WR’s to grow together and develop a chemistry, while we have been doing the opposite. It’s time to actually dedicate the time and effort to builiding a solid and stable WR group that Flacco needs in order to maximize his talents.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
We are honestly way better off just bringing Lee Evans back rather than going after either of these two.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
yes
This is pretty obvious to me.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
A Dug Up
Redd Foxx would be more effective than these two clowns…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
raven
Made a Sanford & Son reference in another post- just tying it all together… bringing it full circle as it were…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I was always more of a Gradyguy
But “here I come, Elizabeth” with the hand-clutching chest and arm waving cracked me up!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Feb 14, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Quote from cris carter who was his teammate and been around him. Is this who you want our young WR's to model themselves after?
"The one thing you have to address with Randy Moss is not a conditioning thing," Carter said, brushing aside concerns about where or not Moss can still be a legitimate vertical threat. "It’s not an age thing. It needs to be addressed. I believe it’s the elephant in the room. It’s that thing called quit.
"And Randy, not like any other superstar I’ve met, he has more quit in him than any of those other players. So I need to addresses that. That’s what [New England Patriots coach Bill] Belichick did when he brought him over from Oakland. He told him he wasn’t going to have it.
"But Randy, when things don’t go well, like no other player I’ve ever been around or associated with, he has a quit mechanism in him that’s huge. That needs to be addressed before he signs with any team."
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Ozzie won’t touch him.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
zing!
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 14, 2012 8:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
raven
On Fire!
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
We should
Cut and resign Lee. Draft a WR. Keep LaQuan and Doss.
Torrey, Boldin, Lee, (Doss, LaQuan, and The Draft Pick: fight it out for the 4,5, and 6 positioning)
David Reed – bounce!
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
Neither
This team was one iota away from probably winning the Super Bowl, and not by fluke. The receiver corps doesn’t need improvement, it needs refinement, which a full offseason for Torrey, LaQuan, and Doss will probably provide. We need to save our money for the O-line something fierce.
Give me a break. If they want a head case, they’ be better off trying to get DeSean Jackson, or maybe Vincent Jackson if they break free from their teams. I would much rather see Robert Meachem or Laurent Robinson. All of this is irrelevant until Cam learns how to use Ray Rice and the short to mid-range passing game more effectively.
Agreed about the Super Bowl-almost comment
and why should we take an aging WR who wouldn’t be the difference along for his own personal ride to a ring!?
aka 'Rexx'
Unreal ! who ever wants to bring back Evans !
Even you Bruce.
Forget Cundiff he should be gone already by now.
And for Evans this dude is unreal.
He dropped the biggest pass of his career.
He let some chump ass sterling moore (joke) strip him.
He should be off this team just as fast as Cundiff should.
Go read what Cris Carter said about his drop.
In the process of catching that ball Evans should ripped this dudes arms right outta his sockets.
Would I take Moss over Evans. No
TO I def would.
Let’s go after a meachem or Robinson or VC.
by ARaveninNewJersey on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
come on man, evans was trying to catch it, make a move and run the last 10 yards to the back of the end zone. what do you want from him? squeeze the ball and fall to the ground hugging it like it was his last earthly possession? with all those YAC yards in front of him I THINK NOT!
The Billy Evan Cameron Story presented by Hallmark.
um Yea
That’s absolutely what I want him to do Raven. That’s what he gets paid to do. Catch footballs.
by ARaveninNewJersey on Feb 14, 2012 9:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unreal ! who ever wants to bring back Evans !
Even you Bruce.
Forget Cundiff he should be gone already by now.
And for Evans this dude is unreal.
He dropped the biggest pass of his career.
He let some chump ass sterling moore (joke) strip him.
He should be off this team just as fast as Cundiff should.
Go read what Cris Carter said about his drop.
In the process of catching that ball Evans should ripped this dudes arms right outta his sockets.
Would I take Moss over Evans. No
TO I def would.
Let’s go after a meachem or Robinson or VC.
by ARaveninNewJersey on Feb 14, 2012 8:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions



















