Which Free Agent Wide Receivers Could Help the Ravens?
by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 10:00 AM EST
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PrintOver the past couple of seasons, the Baltimore Ravens have brought in outside free agent wide receivers to help elevate their passing game. First, the Ravens signed ex-Bengals wide-out, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, for the 2010-2011 season, and then traded a 4th round pick for ex-Bills wide receiver, Lee Evans, this past off-season.
Neither Houshmandzadeh nor Evans made too great of an impact in their time with the Ravens and, ironically, both receivers dropped passes that had a hand in sealing the Ravens’ eventual fate. Although Evans is set to return next season, it’s still unclear whether or not the Ravens will retain his services with an off-season approaching in which the Ravens could dish out big contracts to the likes of: Ray Rice, Joe Flacco, Ben Grubbs, and Lardarius Webb.
With a shaky history at picking up one or two year "rent-a-receivers" and a draft that is loaded with talented wide-outs, the question becomes: Should the Ravens take another chance at a free agent wide receiver, in the hopes that he’ll be the guy to take the Ravens offense over the hump? Or should the Ravens draft a wide receiver and build from within the organization instead of looking to bring in outside help?
After the "Jump", read what Terrell Owens says about the Ravens and see a list of FA wide receivers and which ones the Ravens could be interested in.
Before moving on to the list of potential suitors for the Ravens’ wide receivers group, I thought it was worth noting what Terrell Owens said about being able to help the Ravens and what he thinks of their past FA aqusitions:
"I know I can play. That’s not even a question that I can play. You look at the NFC championship and the AFC championship. You look at those games, especially the NFC championship. (The 49ers') starting receiving corps had one catch for three yards. You look at the AFC championship. The Baltimore Ravens the past two years brought in two guys they thought could get the job done. It comes down to crucial catches and they didn’t make those catches. So I am definitely aware of my talents."
Thanks for the insight T.O.!
Here is a list of 2012 free agent receivers:
Vincent Jackson (San Diego)
Wes Welker (New England)
Reggie Wayne (Indy)
DeSean Jackson (Philadelphia)
Dwayne Bowe (Kansas City)
Marques Colston (New Orleans)
Steve Johnson (Buffalo)
Brandon Lloyd (St. Louis)
Robert Meachem (New Orleans)
Mario Manningham (New York Giants)
Laurent Robinson (Dallas)
Mike Wallace (Pittsburgh) Restricted FA
Early Doucet (Arizona)
Harry Douglas (Atlanta)
Eric Weems (Atlanta)
Ruvell Martin (Buffalo)
Roscoe Parrish (Buffalo)
Legedu Naanee (Carolina)
Roy Williams (Chicago)
Andre Caldwell (Cincinatti)
Jerome Simpson (Cincinatti)
Eddie Royal (Denver)
Rashied Davis (Detroit)
Maurice Stovall (Detroit)
Braylon Edwards (San Francisco)
Bryant Johnson (Houston)
Pierre Garcon (Indy)
Anthony Gonzalez (Indy)
Jerheme Urban (Kansas City)
Devin Aromashodu (Minnesota)
Bernard Berrian (Minnesota)
Greg Camarillo (Minnesota)
Deion Branch (New England)
Matt Slater (New England)
Courtney Roby (New Orleans)
Domenik Hixon (New York Giants)
Devin Thomas (New York Giants)
Plaxico Burress (New York Jets)
TJ Houshmandzadeh (Oakland)
Derek Hagan (Oakland)
Chaz Schilens (Oakland)
Steve Smith (Philadelphia)
Jerricho Cotchery (Pittsburgh)
Patrick Crayton (San Diego)
Ted Ginn (San Francisco)
Josh Morgan (San Francisco)
Mark Clayton (St. Louis)
Mike Sims-Walker (St. Louis)
Micheal Spurlock (Tampa Bay)
Donnie Avery (Tennessee)
Kevin Curtis (Tennessee)
Lavelle Hawkins (Tennessee)
David Anderson (Washington)
Donte' Stallworth (Washington)
Stephen Williams (Arizona) - Exclusive Rights
Jordan Norwood (Cleveland) - Exclusive Rights
Jesse Holley (Dallas) - Exclusive Rights
Kevin Ogletree (Dallas) - Restricted
Stefan Logan (Detroit) - Restricted
Matt Willis (Denver) - Restricted
Danny Amendola (St. Louis) - Restricted
Dominique Curry (St. Louis) - Exclusive Rights
Preston Parker (Tampa Bay) - Exclusive Rights
With an obviously large group of free agents this season, teams will be sorting through the piles to pick the players that will be able to help them the most. So, who could benefit the Ravens most if they were to pursue one or two of these players that are listed above?
Two names that stick out to me are: Vincent Jackson and Robert Meachem. Starting with Vincent Jackson, his current situation in San Diego in very uncertain. Due to off-field issues and some injury concerns, the Chargers have been apprehensive in extending his contract. But, after posting his third 1,000+ yard season with the team (2008, 2009, 2011) it seems as though the Chargers might be more willing to give Jackson his pay-day. While the 29 year old wide out may be a long shot to land with the Ravens, his role in the Ravens’ offense would be clear. Jackson, coming from the Chargers who run a similar ‘Air Coryell’ offensive system, would be able to come straight into Baltimore with a head start on the inner workings of the offense. Since the Ravens have become committed to downfield passing as often as possible, the 6'5" 230 lbs Jackson could provide another big, physical deep threat for quarterback, Joe Flacco.
Coming from the New Orleans Saints, Robert Meachem might find himself as the odd man out in the free-agency-shuffle with the Saints having to find the cash to pay many of their impending free agents. At just 27 years old, the 6'2" 210 lbs receiver has a lot of room and time left to grow as a football player. While Meachem has never posted gaudy stats, he is a great down-field threat with a good nose for the end-zone. Meachem has been averaging about 40 receptions over the past three seasons (2009, 2010, 2011) with about a solid 15.0 yards per catch average and a total of 20 touchdowns. Meachem is another wide receiver that could provide a good deep threat for the Ravens that has a lot of upside and time to grow.
Over the coming months the free agency picture will start to come into focus. The Ravens have several options regarding how to handle their wide receivers group. With several top-flight collegiate wide outs projected to fall into the late 1st round of the 2012 NFL draft, such as: Notre Dame’s Malcom Floyd, Rutgers’ Mohamed Sanu, and Baylor’s Kendall Wright, it’s unclear whether the Ravens will decide to draft a wide receiver, take their chances in free agency, or continue on with their current group and keep on building from within the organization.
One thing though is for sure: Ravens general manager, Ozzie Newsome, highlighted that building the wide receiver group is one of the team’s top priorities this off-season. Expect the Ravens to make a move at some point this off-season in order to continue providing as many targets for Joe Flacco as possible.
Please share who you feel from the 2012 FA WR class would be the most helpful to the Ravens in the comments section!
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Neither one of them is one dimensional. They have shown the ability run underneath routes.
by Raven_all_day on Feb 12, 2012 11:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can’t speak for Smith, But I can tell you that Wallace is most definitely one dimensional. He can beat you deep if you’re not paying attention. That’s it.
He will not fight for the ball if it’s not laid in his hands perfectly, and he rarely executes those underneath routes you speak of.
If there is one reason to think he’s “two dimensional” it’s that he’s ran a few end arounds and a couple gained positive yards
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Yeah I don’t understand where that statement came from. If anything Smith is our most versatile WRs. I like the fact that he has the ability to break it deep, but as the season progressed I saw improvement at his underneath routes.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Well…an example of why people may find him one dimensional is readily available should you re-watch the AFCCG.
The criticisms of him came to a head there..
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I understand why critics would THINK that. But think about this for a second. This is a guy who had about a month of prep. if that. And he still had 50 catches. Give him a full off-season before you make that judgment.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I understand your motivation to say everyone is wrong as well. The thing about both Wallace and Smith…they don’t do much besides blow the top of the defense.
I’m not saying one is better than the other, I’m only saying Wallace is over rated. Smith was a rookie…we’ll see where he goes from here. As it stands now, they are the same person, only Wallace has two years and a few more signature plays on him.
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I would have to agree with the as of right now statement. But I think if you give Smith all summer, he is going to be a monster.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
and as of now…they are both pretty one dimensional
If someone’s argument is “Smith will be better” well…I can’t argue for what may happen. Doing that is freaking stupid. And people that would try to do that know it.
Also, if that type of person would try to bring up their typical cadre of useless stats only based on two meetings…well…you know how that ends up… I don’t get into that type of garbage.
I can’t argue that Smith won’t be a monster. Time will tell.
I just feel sorry for people that feel so small that they feel that if they don’t win the “Smith vs Wallace” argument, then they are somehow less of a person.
Oh well…
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A bit of a stretch there sir. I’m not doing it do feel like a “bigger person”. I’m simply saying Smith has shown signs that he will be the better receiver in the long-run.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Oh..I wasn’t referring to you with that. The person I was referring to knows, and will identify with it.
Just a passing comment boss.
And again…Smith has shown promise…I can’t say he hasn’t. I’m saying, again, that as of now, both him and Wallace are one dimensional.
If you want to use his GW TD against Pittsburgh to “prove your point” fine…
I’ll use Wallace’s GW TD against GB in his rookie year….In a much tougher situation.
Neither really matter, but whatever…I’m using Malor style…
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Neither me nor MaLoR were using that to make our point. Smith has shown more than enough to prove that he is not simply one-dimensional though. Personally I don’t think Wallace is either. I think we aren’t giving either receiver enough credit. The point I’m trying to make is that while Wallace is already a monster, I see Smith being able to do more by the time he’s in his 3rd year.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wallace has yet to score a TD in the Ravens/Steelers matchup. At least we know how to cover him, that’s all I care about.
"Picture Me Rollin"
And yet Smith won the game for us against the Steelers in his rookie season. In his first game against the Steelers, I believe.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
You are correct. Wallace has probably reached his potential (which is still pretty good) but Torrey isn’t even half the WR he could be.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Exactly. Smith has the potential to be a top 10 WR in the league. You could just tell by watching this season that Smith hasn’t even come close to showing us what he can do.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yep…honestly, both have potential to be top WR’s…however, both have also showed that there is just as much holding them back as there are things promising a bright future.
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Not arguing that at all. I think both have amazing potential. But I think Wallace has maxed out, whereas Torrey has the ability to become even better.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I’m not really sure how you could think he “maxed out” But I don’t really expect a logical explanation.
According to certain Ravens fans…players don’t reach their prime until their 9th year or whatever nonsense he tried saying.
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I believe you are referring to our argument on QBs. WRs, however, usually reach their full potential by their 3rd or 4th year.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
yep…let’s argue their future success…that’s right up your alley…
Here’s my side…
Wallace will cure cancer, Smith will rediscover Polio…
BAM! I Win…
Of course, as with all your arguments…No one wins, but you always claim victory..
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That's because this is a Ravens site
We always win here and you can win back over at any Steelers site.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Feb 12, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
HEADSHOT!
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
people may find him one dimensional is readily available should you re-watch the AFCCG.
Wasn’t his TD on a 2 yard comeback route? Doesn’t seem one dimensional to me if he is turning those passes into TD’s
"Picture Me Rollin"
People just want to take cracks for the sake of taking cracks. But the fact remains that Torrey had to learn on the go this season, with no real preparation time. And if he was THAT good this year, just imagine where he’ll be next year with a full off-season under his belt.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it is a stretch to say that Torrey goes for 75 or so catches, for 1,200 yards and 10+ TD’s in his 2nd year.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Not at all
That’s almost exactly where I see him.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
That would only be 25 more catches, less than 400 more yards and 3 more TD’s. Considering he will be seeing ALOT more targets in the upcoming season, those numbers are only going to increase.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I think with Caldwell as Flacco’s QB coach, it definitely becomes possible to achieve that.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
So…Malor has convinced you that I’m “taking cracks”? I underestimated his BB power. I’m pretty sure that if you go back and read the comments, you would be able to tell that I wasn’t.
I don’t think I could have possibly been more objective and honest based on what I’ve actually seen.
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You have some absurd persecution complex about MaLoR. stop dude! You were okay for a while but now we’re all really getting sick of hearing about it
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah I don’t understand why people don’t like MaLoR. He knows what he’s talking about and has the stats to back it up. Most level-headed guy on here in my opinion.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I know man…and that’s where all the hate comes from…
He doesn’t even know that I enjoy long walks on the beach….
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You have ruined another thread boss, just stop man. Please don’t even respond to this comment.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Sorry…can’t help you there. YOU ruined a thread, by getting letting sand in your vagina again. Having an advocate doesn’t make you right. You were not involved in the conversation you chose to engage in.
That makes you responsible sweet cheeks
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nah I’m pretty sure you ruined this one, like you always do. You’re the number one guy people want to go away right now.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
He always seems to comment on Ravens threads. He’s like John, just… Doesn’t know when to stop an argument.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
You’re the number one guy people want to go away right now.
With Evan Skev posting again, it’s probably a toss up.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
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ill give skev some credit for not being as bad recently
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 8:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Do you like making love at midnight?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVdhZwK7cS8
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Who doesn’t?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
They are too wrapped up in their fancy coffees to appreciate the fruity wonder that is a Pina Colada.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I hate Piña Colads.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Any background story as to why?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I can judge based on the three years that I’ve been here that you seem like a very solid guy.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Think so? I disagree. If someone has the same arguments every time, they will be referenced. I’m sorry that you feel you need to be involved, but, there are no complexes on this side.
Sorry he tricked you boss
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The fact that you simply can’t leave it alone says otherwise. Nobody’s tricking me sir, and I’m not your boss.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I’m not your buddy, guy. (SP reference)
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ok…well…What am I not leaving alone? I wasn’t talking to him. He felt it necessary to throw his homeristic comments in to a conversation he wasn’t involved in. How is that my responsibility?
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And your perception on Wallace isn’t homeristic at all?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
My perception that he is one dimensional? I’m not really sure how calling a player on your team one dimensional is being homeristic.
I do disagree that he is “maxed out” because, if he wants to work his ass off, he has potential to be better. As of the last 7 or so regular season games, he doesn’t seem to want to.
It’s up to him, not people on a board.
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I guess…do you have magic powers?
Like…if you were disrespected during a regular season game, would the team disrespecting you lose their next 8 games, despite being a pretty good team?
Or…if you were disrespected, in the next meeting, would your franchise QB end his season, your team lose, and have to watch the team that did both go on to win the Super Bowl?
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sweet…you pointed out a play….
Everyone knows that all legends are based on one play in one game.
I concede.
I honestly don’t know if you are trying to be serious, or it’s all some big joke.
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And what were you referring to when stating…
people may find him one dimensional is readily available should you re-watch the AFCCG.
Were you basing that off of the 2 times he went deep in that game? What did you see that was one dimensional.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Sort of, yes. But…people found that (on your own blog especially) a culmination of the type of player he was at that time.
It’s the same way that I can see that Gay blowing coverage against you guys in SBW9 was a culmination of the way our secondary was playing against good competition.
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I dont like any pitt fan… But you’re the only inert whit deserves a permanent ban. You’ve turned this site into a showcase for your toddler intellect and personality flaws.
Hope you’re banned very soon
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 6:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dont like any pitt fan… But you’re the only one who deserves a permanent ban. You’ve turned this site into a showcase for your toddler intellect and personality flaws.
Hope you’re banned very soon
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 6:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is the part of the thread where Frank writes some long tirade about how creepy MaLoR is and why we’re all wrong for having an anti-steeler bias. We’ll read the first sentence and skip the rest.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree. He took it REAL personal that I even responded to his comment. Scared that I might actually have something logicacal to say, so he has to go with dumb as comments such as….
Everyone knows that all legends are based on one play in one game.
And
Here’s my side…
Wallace will cure cancer, Smith will rediscover Polio…
BAM! I Win…
Of course, as with all your arguments…No one wins, but you always claim victory..
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
No, I wasn’t afraid you’d have something logicacal to say.
Your answer was that Wallace had no GW Td’s against Baltimore…as if that was the measure of a great WR…Why would you possibly get offended by the answer to something that stupid?
You are the one with the hang-ups about your team, not me.
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That was not his argument at all. He said he has no touchdowns against the ravens. Period. Game winning or not, he doesn’t have a single TD against us.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Your answer was that Wallace had no GW Td’s against Baltimore
No, it wasn’t. Reading iz good.
as if that was the measure of a great WR
Well, it wasn’t even what was stated first of all. And I don’t think I ever said Torrey is great because he has scored against Pitt and Wallace hasn’t against Baltimore. You just seem to think that because I say that, I am saying that Torrey is the next Jerry RIce.
It’s ok though, your misinterpretations are common around here.
"Picture Me Rollin"
You are like the Newt Gingrich of BB. You take people arguments, and flip them to make them look bad haha.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
you iz being correct in thiz pa-ticular sitchy ation…
This is one time where, if you were to say I “took your comment out of context” , you would be correct.
See the difference? Some can admit when they are wrong. Are you taking notes chubs?
Your argument was that Smith was better because Wallace hadn’t scored a touchdown against Baltimore.
You felt defensive even though I said nothing to get defensive over.
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You almost seemed sincere, until you called him Chubs. haha. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
What can I say..I decided to revisit Happy Gilmore last night. Pretty weird that your response to that was also an Adam Sandler movie eh?
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh. Hahaha. You gotta love Adam Sandler. Except for his last Christmas movie, that was God-awful.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all. You said all people need to do is watch the AFCCG and see that he is one dimensional (which I am sure you are referring to him only going deep all game, every game).
I showed that he was far from one dimensional, judging by the fact that he ran a crisp comeback route that turned into a huge TD.
Don’t get snippy now.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes…"he who says he “won” in a competition that isn’t going on…wins"
It was written in psalms 6:123
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No need to bring biblical references into this discussion.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
You are saying that because you found one clip, that somehow means he’s not one dimensional? Are you serious?
I promise you, I can find you anomalies from Wallace too…it don’t mean shizz
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You are saying that because you found one clip, that somehow means he’s not one dimensional? Are you serious?
No, I am saying that watching the AFCCG doesn’t clearly show that Torrey is a one trick pony (as you referred to) He obviously did other things at the WR position that showed everyone that he can have a game where he does it all.
Torrey was targeted deep twice that entire game, one of which was a completion. All his other catches were from the 1-8 route tree.
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this is true, as I’ve acknowledged. If you hadn’t been dedicated to your “side” you’d see that there was a little more to that.
I will say it again. That play was a culmination of what some Ravens fans (the really dumb ones you talk about…not you obviously) had criticized him for.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
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by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Evans
I know Ravens fans want some dazzling FA acquisition, but with our cap situation and the problems presented by bringing yet another new face into the system, Evans being restructured and retained becomes more and more likely.
I understand that the glut of agents (supply) would theoretically drop prices, but at the same time the cap’s lack of rising this season also dampens demand. The bottom line is that I just don’t see us being in the market for a VJax type of player.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 10:18 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I agree
It sucks, but even if we sign Rice, Flacco, and franchise Grubbs, we’ll still be struggling for cap space.
I’m taking solace in the fact that Ozzie WANTS to upgrade at the WR position. And what Ozzie wants, Ozzie gets.
I think some of these guys will settle for less on behalf of the team. I see a guy like Flacco or Rice excepting the fact that they are our most important players, but realize that being on this team is the best chance they have to win. So I think they will take a little bit less.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Fans always say that
But it just doesnt work that way. Sometimes a guy will take a hometown discount, but for Flacco and Rice both having far outplayed their rookie contracts, their cap numbers will be substantial.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I just don’t see Flacco or Rice being the type of guys that will DEMAND a huge contract.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not the players that demand it always. It’s the agents.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Neither Flacco or Rice seems like the guy to let his agent ruin their possibility of remaining a Raven. They all WANT to stay here.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Flacco and Rice are no-brainers and top priorities, but Grubbs could be an issue.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think we tag him.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
hope so
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Still having an underwhelming amount of cap space in one of the best FA pools in awhile is disappointing to me.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I know…But it’s not always up to them. They pay those guys big money to make their financial/career decisions for them. Those agents are supposed to be out for THEIR best interest, not the Ravens
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
If they want to be back, they’ll be back. Regardless of what their greedy agent wants.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I agree they have outplayed their rookie contracts, but I just don’t see Rice, Flacco, or Grubbs leaving us.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
If you think we’re gonna keep all three of them and sign a big name FA at WR, youre thinking wishfully.
Chances are Grubbs is gone and Rice franchised, but it may be possible to sign Rice quickly and franchise Grubbs
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Didn’t say I was expecting to sign a big name FA. Saying it would be nice if it was possible, but I see us finding one through the draft.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
ok
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I messed up my micro econ a bit there… because obviously a glut of supply combined with a drop in demand would drop prices. But I still think our cap situation is too restrictive
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 10:28 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I still say...
we need a 5’9" burner who can workout of the slot and also return kickoffs and punts.
aka 'Rexx'
…Ray Rice? I kid I kid.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Adams baby!
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Joe who?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Dear lord, I’m in love
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Search through the archives on this site. I did a “potential steal” piece on him. He’s from Arkansas. Wide receiver/KR/PR. Projected 3rd round. He’d be a great slot guy that can run a 4.3 40 and returns kicks. Was the SEC special teams player of the year.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. I saw that video MaLoR posted above. He is just… amazing. Seems like a perfect slot receiver AND returner. How are his hands?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Mostly good. Read what I wrote on him. He’s not a huge guy. About 5-11 190 lbs. Needs to work on some route running and technical stuff, but he can run a 4.3 and return kicks which we desperately need. He could be a #3 WR from the start and is a major threat returning kicks. Major major home run ability. I’ve seen a few mocks that have him falling to us in the third.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely wouldn't mind him falling to us in the 3rd.
But his routes seemed pretty crisp on the video I saw. What makes you say that?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
The scouting reports I scoured for hours. I linked one (Walter Football) I think mentioned that. Maybe not so much as being crisp, just needs to expand his tree? Either way, it’ll be interesting if he falls to the third at the latest. He lit it up at the senior bowl and if he runs something like a 4.3 in front of scouts people are going to be drooling….like I am. Haha.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine if he gets into the 4.2’s, and does develop his routes. I would consider taking him in the second.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
If I’m honest with myself, I think he’s already done enough to be snagged in the second round by some team. A team will do their homework on him and fall in love. He’s so versatile and would be a great value pick in the 2nd-3rd for a guy that has that speed, can return kicks, and can absolutely score almost everytime he touches the ball. I really want that guy in a Ravens uniform.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
He looks very similar to Ray Rice. But just at WR. Wouldn’t mind that type of player at all.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
The irony of you saying you need a short receiver while our fans are screaming for a tall receiver is funny to me.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
We need both
Right now all we have are 6 foot guys with suspect hands and only one of them has any speed
why does he have to be 5’9"
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I disagree. We need a guy that fits into the mold of a Vincent Jackson. We need a guy that is big enough to where when Flacco throws the ball up, our receiver is the only one who can get it. We have the inside route guys (Boldin, Dickson, Pitta) and the burners (Evans, Smith). But what we need is a big physical guy who will fight for the ball.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I still say...
we need a 6’4" jump ball monster who can workout on the edge and help us fix our atrocious red zone scheme.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Thank you. That’s what I’ve been saying for a long time. We always falter in the red-zone. So a guy who can just out-muscle all the other guys and get the ball, is a must.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think we should change it up. We need to get a big receiver. We always had speed in our core. Always a average-sized receiver. Getting a longer receiver will be good for Flacco.
by Raven_all_day on Feb 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I hope
Ozzie finds some jewel in the draft at wide receicer and keeps building up our young offense. I don’t have anyone in mind but I trust ozzie
by Ravens4Life on Feb 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Brian Quick from Appalachian State and Tommy Streeter from Miami are two names I like.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Oh man I loved watching Streeter. He is just a monster of a talent. Too bad we didn’t have a good enough of a QB to expose his true potential.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t say he is a “monster of a talent” but he looks like a solid WR, probably chosen in the 3rd or so.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Oh he is. It’s the little things he does that sets him apart. He is one of the most underrated receivers in the draft.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think if we are going to draft a WR early, we have to go after Alshon Jeffrey. He is just a pure beast.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
That is who I want. We had so many problems with drops this year, well this guy has glue on his hands it seems. If we could land him here and get him in a serious conditioning program, you could be looking at the next Brandon Marshall without the crap attitude.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I agree with what you said about potential B-marsh talent.
Why the need for a serious conditioning program?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Reading some things from SC fans, he has had a few issues with keeping his weight down.
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Oh. Well if it’s fat, then definitely. But if he’s just a big athletics wad of muscle, with good hands, I’ll gladly take him.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
4 time state champion on his basketball team in high school as well. Always a plus.
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So ya’ boy has hops?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
The speed issue is real with him
He doesnt appear to be very fast, run routes very well, or transition into running after the catch very well. Hands are great but in the NFL he could have serious issues gaining separation.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Honestly, I don’t care if he has speed or not. If he runs a 4.5 I would be fine. But having the ability to out-jump and fight for the ball is the ability he has. And that’s what our team needs.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not talking about 40 times, I’m talking about suddenness. That is the number one skill that you look for in a WR (provided he can catch). Jeffrey isnt very sudden or explosive in and out of his cuts, and he seems to transition into running after the catch a little awkwardly. Floyd does that frighteningly smoothly.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I would have to agree. I’ve seen many South Carolina games, and the thing that appeals to me is his pure athletic ability to go up and get the ball. But like you said, he doesn’t seem like the guy to catch and break off 20 yards. Def not a YAC guy, but his ability to get the ball at its highest point, is what appeals to me.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think Jeffrey will either be a Plaxico-type monster or he won’t make enough of an impact due to a lack of separation, which is why I don’t like him in the first. Not enough of a sure-fire contributor for me.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well we still have the scouting combine to see some of his measurables, after that we can more accurately make that judgment.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah man, could be Mike Williams 2.0
Most of those big guys like James Hardy don’t do that well in the NFL regardless, and when you add in the character concerns, and the fitness too, which overlaps with work ethic, I just think you have to play the odds and look elsewhere in the draft
excellent point
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 3:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He won't fall to where we could even trade up for him, but Kendall Wright
just seems like the most dangerous WR in this draft, wouldn’t be surprised to see him have more success than Blackmon. He and Torrey would destroy defenses. And while Alshon played basketball in HS, Wright played in college, so I think he could play taller than 5’10
lol @ "Tommy Streeter"--did your agent come up with that name?
this is the nfl dude, not a 1930s mob flick
i know, kidding
I just can’t believe football players’ names sometimes. A football player whose last name is “locker”? Just seems like a movie character
hahahaha
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Only way we sign a FA is if we get rid of Evans, and not sure that is going to happen. Why get rid of Evans for the likes of Plaxico, Meachem, Branch, Doucet, etc? We aren’t going to be able to get V-Jax, D-Jax, Wallace, Colston, Bowe or any of those big names. Those guys are all going to get $8 million a year, and we cannot afford that.
I would much rather stick with what we have, and if we do cut Evans, spend a high draft pick on a guy like Alshon Jeffrey or Michael Floyd.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I’m not sold on Floyd. I would rather see us get Jeffrey. Jeffrey is freaking huge. CBSports lists him at 6-4 226
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t that around where Andre Johnson is?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Really? When I see him play, he seems a lot bigger than that.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know. He just seems like the biggest guy on the field.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Floyd is definitely better than Jeffrey. Floyd is pretty damn big, extremely powerful running with the ball, and he has great speed. He’s got T.O. potential.
Jeffrey has him beat on hands and size but Floyd is no shrimp either and he’s far more sudden and explosive in his movements, cuts, and run after catch transition. Floyd is also a serious jump ball receiver in his own right.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Jeffrey seems like a late 1st early 2nd guy. And Floyd seems like could be any where from 15-25 overall.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
yes
And i could see us trading up to 22 if he falls that far. Big IF though.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think that depends if Burfict and/or Hightower is available or not. Ozzie already said he would be looking for a potential heir to Ray Lewis in this draft.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
very possible. choosing between floyd and burfict based on what trade is cheapest would be a good problem to have IMO
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah. Honestly, I would like to see us Get Burfict and see what WRs are available in the second. LB seems like more a pressing matter at the moment.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Dream scenario getting either of them. I think both are game changers and that’s exactly what you want in your first round pick.
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this
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 13, 2012 8:03 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Another guy to look for us to get is Peter Konz. (Is that how you spell it?). The center out of Wisconsin.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
And he could play LG for a year or two while Gurode finishes up at Center for us. Wouldn’t mind that at all. W have never started a rookie Center on this team.
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He seems very versatile. And putting Gurode (A proven pro-bowl center) as the starter doesn;t sound too bad to me.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Konz ain’t slipping past the Steelers lol
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Giving up on Pouncey?
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I hope they don’t. I’ve been enjoying watching Ngata eat him alive.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t consider that an insult towards Pouncey, considering the fact that there is no lineman in the NFL who wouldn’t get destroyed by Ngata.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
That’s true. I just think he’s less resilient against him than others.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
In his first year he was a rookie with no other good linemen around him, so we all expected him to struggle against players like Ngata. In his second year, it seems as if his ankle had never fully healed from his injury in the AFCCG, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise that he had a sophomore slump. However, with a line that should be much improved and a surgery that should fix his ankle, I fully expect him to have a breakout year and cement himself as one of the best centers in the league.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
You aren’t at all worried that this surgery will set him back? He’s good I’m not denying that, but I’m not sold on him being a top Center in the league just yet.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
That’s always a possibility but I think it will help him more than anything. He’ll be ready for training camp, so as long as he doesn’t balloon up during the off-season he should be fine. And I understand the skepticism regarding Pouncey, but I’m just saying that (IMO) he will be one of the best in a few years. I could be wrong, but that is just one man’s honest opinion.
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Why would we? He’s going to be the best center in the NFL in a few years.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
A bit of a stretch don’t you think?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
No, not at all. Trust me when I say this, give this kid a healthy ankle and a decent line and he will be up there with Mangold in a few years. He’s that special.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Well that’s the thing, where are you guys planning on getting this “decent line” from? Even if you did get Konz, the rest of the line would still be awful.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
My dream is to draft Mike Adams and put him at LT. Stick Gilbert at RG, and put Colon (who is a good RT when healthy) at RT, with Pouncey at C. Not sure who would play LG, but with those four players and whoever at LG I think our line could be at least average. You also have to take into account the fact that our line often looks worse than it is because of Ben’s knack for holding the ball too long, which hopefully will be fixed with Haley as our OC. Combine these things, and I think our line could drastically improve.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Ive seen so many different reports on Adams. One says he is a first round player, the next says 2nd round.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I haven’t been keeping up with the draft as much as I’d like to this year. Is there a scouting profile up anywhere of him?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, over at MTD they had one a few days ago.
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I’ll check it out
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I feel as if there was some sarcasm in that response.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
He’s just so inconsistent that you never know how he’ll turn out. He’s elite one second and the next he doesn’t even know who to block. I don’t expect the Steelers to take him, but if he is there when we pick I think they’ll take a long look at him.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Quite a good one. Needs to seriously work on pass protecting though. I’ve seen him get put on his ass a few too many times (particularly by Ngata and Suggs, which is nothing to be ashamed of)
"Picture Me Rollin"
I agree with this. He seems solid at Run blocking though.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
They already have Pouncey though?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
We’d put him at guard.
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Idk. I don’t see him as a Steeler.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Can a man dream?
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I see you guys nabbing a defensive player.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Same here. I just hope we can grab a starting guard in the second or third rounds.
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I could see you guys getting Ben Jones in the second round.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
my issue
Is that a 1st rounder has to be a safe bet to come in and make an impact immediately. Floyd is a safe bet for how well-rounded he is. Jeffrey has superstar potential but could be a bit of a project for the issues I named above.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
But we would not need Jeffrey to come in and just be “The Man” right away. Having Boldin and Torrey there gives him enough time and opportunity to get his stuff together and become the beast he could be.
"Picture Me Rollin"
A 1st rounder needs to be an impact player as a rookie. Not “the man” but an impact player, and I’m not sure Jeffrey can be that.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I know that he is a beast. I just personally like Jeffrey better.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Laurent Robinson, Robert Meachem, Terrell Owens, and Chaz Schilens are appealing.
Strong tall receivers for Cam’s system.
by E-ROC on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I don’t like any of them. Except for maybe Meachem.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Chaz is an interesting option as a #3 guy. skip the rest. Still I’d probably keep Evans.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He says he thinks he “Could’ve helped out the ravens this year.”
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Indoor football. What a joke. You think at this point he would be looking for a real job.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. Buy low, high reward type.
Everybody is else is probably out of the Ravens price range. TO has a fantastic work ethic and has been productive throughout his career, even while later in his career.
Do like the Giants.
Do like the Giants. Speedy receivers are to key to a great offense. If i could say which players to sign i would say Mike Wallace and Mario Manningham!!
Is FrankWyt yet another troll? Sad…
Anyway, Dwayne Bowe would look great in purple, although he’ll get a lot of money, probably too much for us to afford. And I say there is some truly untapped talent on the roster in Tandon Doss.
And let’s not count LaQuan out either. He actually beat out Doss to make the active list alot this year.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
But LaQuan us also a great ST player. One of our best gunners this year on kick coverages.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely. Very excited to see our players’ progression next year.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
How about Jeremy Lin only putting up 20 points last night?
Lin-consistent. Haha…. no one?
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only 20?
terrible game
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 1:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
20 points, 6 rebounds, and 8 assists is nothing to shake a stick at. His turnovers are frightening, but that is something that can be taught.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
ready for this???
A Lin is a Lin
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 1:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The puns will never grow old will they?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
All I do is Lin Lin Lin
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Got money in the bank I can never miss a jump. Every time I step up in the bulding everyone says “Lin Dunk!” And I do it. And I do it.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t be too concerned about his TO’s. He’s already the best player on the team (yes..I do not look too highly on players that are like Stoudemire and Anthony..)
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I wouldn’t call him better than STAT or Melo but ol’ boy has potential. I can’t wait to see where he is in a year or two.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I can’t wait to see where he’ll be in a week or two haha. Players can show flashes of brilliance. For all we know, he could hjust be a fluke.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
After a game or two I would agree, but it’s been 5 games and he’s still putting up great numbers. Consider me officially on the bandwagon.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I don’t feel as if 5 games is enough to sufficiently judge a player. You need at LEAST a month before you can start making judgments like that.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
What?! That is crazy. Amare and Carmelo are proven superstars. You are ready to make that statement after 5 games?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
retarded
Lin is not better than Anthony or Melo. not even close
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 2:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ouch
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Alive & well…anew nowhere near a pitt board.
It’s fun watching the rooneys try to right the ship… arians fired…whines on his way out…and the franchise QB is “shocked”
Good stuff
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don’t doubt the Rooneys. You should know this.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
They haven’t done much to impress…and now the org is in an unnecessary transition because of their miscalculations. Lovin it
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They haven’t done much to impress
Obvious troll is obvious.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Substantive response
That team is a mess… And Baltimore fans are loving it
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, that’s not at all weird.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
hahahahaha
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I know
Strange days indeed.
anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 12, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
249 comments on a post in mid February?
We don’t see that too often.
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Word up! Haha. Thanks everyone.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 12, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Usually happens when DahmerWyt chimes in. Don’t think that will be much of a problem anymore…
"Picture Me Rollin"
it was at least a good 150 comment thread of valuable commentary anyway
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 5:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He only trolls…no respect for Baltimore or the Ravens org
I wonder why he is on the pitt bandwagon yet spending so much time and energy here
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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