The Curious Case of Jim Caldwell
There has been mixed emotions of the Baltimore Ravens' recent signing of Jim Caldwell to be their new quarterbacks coach. Some have been welcoming him with open arms, while others have remained wary. The most notable acknowledgment brought up by the people who praise the career of Jim Caldwell is Peyton Manning. Some people believe that without Jim Caldwell, Peyton Manning wouldn't have been as successful. But on the other hand, the people who remain wary believe that Peyton Manning was the one who made Jim Caldwell look good. And while there is no exact way to prove who made who better, there is a way to observe the effectiveness of Jim Caldwell.
So I believe the best way to settle this discrepancy is to objectively analyze the coaching career of Jim Caldwell, by giving a bigger sample size than his time in Indianapolis, starting at his first job as a QB coach at Penn State back in 1986.
*Please note that I'm leaving out passing yardage as a unit of measurement of a QB's ability, as the amount of yardage a QB accumulates is not dependent on his individual performance. But varies on what a receiver does after getting the ball. It is the RBI of football if you will.
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Jim Caldwell was first hired to be Penn State's quarterbacks coach in 1986 after Penn State's loss to Oklahoma in the 1985 Orange Bowl. While the Nittany Lions went on to win the Fiesta Bowl to become national champions, the success cannot be accredited to their passing game. In fact, that year John Shaffer and Matt Knizner combined for just 10 touchdowns. Compared to the 22 rushing touchdowns (3 of which were created by John Shaffer) the passing game was about half as effective as the running game, accounting for roughly about only a third of the team's scoring.
Sure, you may make the argument that you can't base the effectiveness of a coach on his first year, or that Penn State has always been more focused on the ground-game. But the fact remains that the trend of ineffective QB-play continued over the course of the next 5 years. By the time his job at Happy Valley was over, the passing combined for a total of 74 touchdowns and 54 interceptions. In fact, 3 out of the 6 years Jim Caldwell was at Penn State, the quarterbacks combined for more interceptions than touchdowns. The only time the passing game outscored the ground game in his time at Penn State was in 1989 and 1991, which ironically enough were years Penn State won bowl games. And not a single quarterback from Penn State from 1986 to 1992 went on to be a successful NFL quarterback (excluding Kerry Collins who was a back-up in 1991 and 1992). Not exactly a successful first stint, if you ask me.
After his stint with Penn State, Jim Caldwell went on to become Wake Forest's Head Coach. Next to none of the passing statistics are available during his time at Wake Forest, the one stat I was able to pull was that over the course of time there his quarterbacks combined for 92 touchdowns. But another stat that popped out to me, that his record at Wake Forest was 26-63; a .292 winning percentage. Over 8 years, he had but one winning season in which Wake Forest went on to win the Aloha Bowl. He might not have demonstrated his ability to be a successful head coach, but he did display a powerful passing attack that caught the eye of Tony Dungy.
He joined Tony Dungy in Tampa Bay for the 2001 season, in which the quarterbacks combined for a mediocre 13 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. After the 2001 season, Jim Caldwell followed Tony Dungy to Indianapolis. This is where the point from which most people starts to analyze Jim Caldwell's effectiveness as a quarterbacks coach. By the time Jim Caldwell and Tony Dungy arrived at Indianapolis, Peyton Manning had already become the established starter and face of the franchise.
So while it's impossible to determine the effect Jim Caldwell had on Peyton Manning, the one thing that noticeably changed was Peyton's decrease in interception numbers. And while this could possibly be accredited due to the fact that Peyton was simply gaining more experience, it cannot be denied that his overall productivity increased during Caldwell's time there.
In 2001 Peyton Manning threw for 26 touchdowns and 23 interceptions. In 2002, Jim Caldwell's first year as the Colts' quarterbacks coach, Peyton Manning's numbers jumped to 27 touchdowns and 19 interceptions. Now while that may not be exactly eye popping progression, it was still improvement. This improvement continued even more the following year. In 2003 Peyton's progression continued, as he notched 29 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. This is where I personally believe Peyton Manning started to become an elite quarterback. He took the steps to reduce his interceptions to 10, while still gradually increasing his production of touchdowns. 2004 was the year when Peyton Manning took the biggest step of his improvement. He jumped from to an eye-popping 49 touchdowns with only 10 interceptions. He had officially arrived at the elite status. And we all have seen how the story would go from that point on. The Colts went on to win a Superbowl in 2006. And after taking over as the head coach of the Colts in 2009, Caldwell even took his team to the Superbowl (where they lost 31-17 to the Saints). The following year his team reached the AFC Divisional round where they lost to the Jets 17-16.
But the subject of discrepancy that arises from Jim Caldwell's time in Indianapolis is how the play of his team fared this season without Peyton Manning. Poorly. His QB's combined for 14 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. This is where the speculation comes that Jim Caldwell might not have been as effective of a coach as he was made out to be. Because if he was a great coach, his quarterbacks would have been more effective and they wouldn't have finished with a 2-14 record. And while some may argue that this was due to the shortened offseason, some may argue that if Caldwell would've prepared his quarterbacks properly in the first place, they would have been able to step up and put their team in a position to win more than 2 games.
So whether it is Jim Caldwell who made Peyton Manning better, or vice-versa, it is unclear at this time to make that judgment. So the skeptics have every right to their uncertainty. The thing to observe this upcoming season is how Peyton Manning fares without Jim Caldwell and how Joe Flacco fares with Jim Caldwell. But due to his history as a coach, I for one am a skeptic. But as a Ravens' fan, I sure hope that Joe Flacco can progress as efficiently as Peyton Manning did.
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Listen up people.
If we start comparing Flacco’s progression under Caldwell to Manning’s progression under Caldwell, we’ll never be satisfied or happy. The fact is, Manning will go down as one of the greatest QB’s to ever play the game. Flacco is just starting to hit his prime. Let’s curtail his progress with some realism, please?
If Flacco is able to pass the “eye test” and posts statistically better numbers than he did in 2010, then we have a successful pairing (or at least one that isn’t terrible). Personally, even though Flacco’s numbers dipped this year, I trusted him more so than last year, if that makes sense?
I’m not comparing his progress. If you would take the time to thoroughly read the article you would see that I was demonstrating the effectiveness of Jim Caldwell as a coach. I ended it with simply saying I would like to see Flacco impprove like Manning did. I would, however, not be surprised if he doesn’t/ Just saying it would be nice
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I read the article
I’m just saying even invoking comparisons between Flacco and Manning is unfair to Joe. It’s fun to imagine, but realistically, I just want Joe to post better numbers than he did in 2010 and “look” the part better. Caldwell is a good hire; I can’t see him hurting Joe, so all he can do is improve.
Manning’s progression under Caldwell,
Manning was already Manning when Caldwell got there. If you want to give some credit to making Manning “Manning” Look no further than one Bruce Arians
You guys should have hired him…you missed your chance. ..
In all seriousness though, Arians was his QB coach for his first few years in the league. It’s up to you to decide if he deserves credit or not.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Well his years under Arians were less than stellar. He only became ELITE when Jim Caldwell was there.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Whatchu mean? Manning first year is the only reason I wouldn’t call stellar, and that’s only because he threw two more int’s than td’s, but even then..considering the mess he walked in to, I’d say he played pretty damn well.
In his second season (as well as Arians second season) he put up over 4k (before players as bad as Cassell could do it) and cut down on his int’s by almost half, while still throwing the same amount of td’s. He also threw for 62%.
Manning has been pimpin since been pimpin since been pimpin.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I do not count yardage as a measure of a QUarterback’s talent. Like I said, they are like the RBIs of football
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 12, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’d be tough to say whether or not Caldwell will have the same effect on Joe. Peyton and Joe are very different QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. What works for one guy might not for the other. I like the Caldwell hire, and only time will tell. I just hope that if he does help improve Joe, that the team decides to keep him around for more than one year.
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by WestminsterRaven on Feb 11, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions
Like I said, we’ll have to wait and see. I like the hire, but I’m still skeptical.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Your team really has nothing to lose by this hire. It’s either going to make Flacco better, or he’s going to stay the same.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
That’s true. I would love to see Flacco improve even more than he has been,
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
. Because if he was a great coach, his quarterbacks would have been more effective and they wouldn’t have finished with a 2-14 record
Well the quarterback they had playing for them had a quarterback rating of 82 which isnt bad at all. The colts loss some key players to injuries which didnt help them at all and sometimes it doenst matter how good of coach you are but if you lose key players then it may be hard to win games.
This is true. But if you properly prepared players they would be able to execute a game-plan
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I do not think Caldwell was a good head coach but as a position coach lets wait and see.
Anyone who would expect Joe to develop like peyton is not sane and personally i do not want him to. peyton’s game is not a Raven game. Joe needs somebody who is only looking at what he is doing as part of the whole to catch his mistakes and help him improve not to fight the oc. and as much as I hat Cam he cannot just concentrate on Joe and give him a good critique on his play. So i say give Caldwell a chance
Thank you sir.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well I’m not expecting him to. I am saying it would be nice if Jim could help Flacco become more productive. And what you said about Cam is true. I think it will do Joe good to have someone keeping a close eye on him.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Peyton Manning's effect on Jim Caldwell =
Ray Lewis’ effect on many a defensive coordinator!
aka 'Rexx'
I can see a fair comparison there.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
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"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 11, 2012 11:43 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I feel as if there is a joke here that I’m missing.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 11, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
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"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Feb 12, 2012 2:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Honestly, who can predict if Joe will turn out to be Peyton Manning? We don’t run the same offense the Colts did, nor do we have the weapons on the outside. I know I’m in the minority on this, but I like the offense that we run…very balanced between the pass vs. the run, albeit with the occasional and nauseatingly frustrating lulls. All we do know is that some guys make better position coaches and coordinators than head coaches, and Caldwell has had success when he has worked directly with quarterbacks. This was a great hire, and I think Joe will improve, but to attempt to compare him to a future hall of famer is impossible.
Great writeup. The Caldwell hiring is a fail already. The offensive scheme needs to be tailored to fit the personnel. Firing a QB coach and then hiring another looks stupid from the outside.
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So this was another “dysfunctional” move? Damn, the Ravens’ organization is terrible. They need you in charge.
You’re entitled to your opinion but i don’t think I’d do well without a few years of training.
by Evan Skev on Feb 12, 2012 7:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

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