Ray Rice's Amazing Season
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 4, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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Baltimore Ravens fans as well as most football fans regardless of their rooting interest already know what a great player Ray Rice is. They know how dangerous he is and when he is getting the ball and going good, the Ravens usually end up winning the game. Conversely, if you look at the games the Ravens lost this season, the common denominator is the lack of touches Rice received.
As good of a regular season you might think he had, you might not truly know how amazing it really was. Rice finished second in the NFL in rushing yards (1,364) to Jacksonville Jaguars RB Maurice Jones-Drew (1,606). He added 74 receptions for 704 yards, both second best among running backs only to New Orleans Saints RB Darren Sproles (86 for 710 yards).
Rice also led the NFL in runs of at least 40 yards with five, including two long TD runs (70, 51 yards) in the 24-16 win over the Cincinnati Bengals in week 17. His clutch performance just earned him the AFC Offensive Player of the Week award, as noted in a story on BaltimoreRavens.com.
However, it is his combined total of rushing and receiving yards that is by far the most impressive stat of all. His combined total of 2,068 was the best in the league this season. His closest competition for combined rushing/receiving yards was Jones-Drew (1,980), followed by Houston Texans RB Arian Foster (1,841).
Furthermore, according to the NFL, Rice is one of only two players in NFL history to ever have multiple seasons of at least 1,200 rushing yards and 700 receiving yards (Pro Football Hall of Fame RB Marshall Faulk did it four times). In 2009, Rice had 1,339 rushing and 702 receiving yards.
In 2010, Rice had 1,220 rushing yards on 16 more attempts but only five TD runs, compared to his 12 in 2011. He also had 63 receptions for 556 yards and one TD compared to the three he had on his 76 catches for 148 more yards in 2011.
Despite the Ravens opponents knowing how much of an offensive threat he is, teams are still unable to contain him. His ability to stay on his feet, fight for extra yardage with his low center of gravity, as well as make something out of nothing on short passes makes it difficult for the defense to stop him regardless of how much they try to simply contain him.
He is without a doubt, the Ravens key to their offense and while he will not be able to overcome the incredible passing seasons by Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers and New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees, he surely deserves mention in the discussion of the NFL Offensive Player of the Year.
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Ray Rice from Rutgers rushes up the right side! LOL
by bshagagi on Jan 4, 2012 1:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't forget...
he had an 80 yard TD run against the Steelers called back on a bogus holding penalty on Torrey Smith. ESPN’s Mark Schlereth said he played 12 years in the NFL and held on every play and said “that was not holding!”
aka 'Rexx'
just to PS. He won’t see the field.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
oh lol how i read the article it was like they sign him to the active roster but thats cool.
he was really good in college returning kicks and he could give David Reed some competiton in training camp
He may not make it here that long. They had to waive Graham and just promoted Boren to the roster, so they just needed to fill in a PS spot. May not be a guarantee that Reed is here either after another big injury.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
David Reed likely won't be ready for training camp.
Was his torn ACL not announced publicly? A lot of people seem either not know or not remember that he’s hurt.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 4, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Its possible that David Reed could be ready to start in training camp well not right away but he could see some time in training camp.
I think Wes Welker tore his Acl late in season like David Reed did and was able to see time in training camp. I think he even started the first game of the season for the patirots in 2010 as well
I would be very surprised if Reed makes it back in time
and is completely healthy. I will admit to being surprised that Welker made it back as fast as he did though.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 4, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
True but at the same time Reed isn’t wes welker. He’s already been benched for on the field play and has had season ending injuries both years in the league. With how good of a team we have and limited roster space he may be cut.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Are you suggesting we drop Reed like a football on a kick return?
Ziiiing!
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
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by Ampallang on Jan 4, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol yes and this is coming from one of his biggest supporters. Reed went to my school and I am a big fan, but with how competitive the roster is, along with the injuries, along with the fumbling and penalties, along with the marijuana charges he got a suspension from he very well could be done as a Raven. I don’t know that he’s shown enough yet for the Ravens to save a roster spot for him and hope it all gets turned around.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I think David Reed will bounce back and have a much better year once next season starts up.
yes he had a marijuana charge, yes he got suspended, yes he get benched, and yes he just recently got I.R this season but I think if he looks back at all the obstacles he been throught it will make him better not only as a person but as a player.
Why do you expect him to bounce back?
His career has been a disappointment. Injuries and ineffectiveness have effectively derailed his chances to make it with the Ravens. He may pop up somewhere, but I would not expect him to make the roster next fall.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 4, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you expect him to bounce back?
His career has been a disappointment. Injuries and ineffectiveness have effectively derailed his chances to make it with the Ravens
I expect him to bounce back because I think he has a strong determination to be a great player. When David Reed lost his kick return job if Im not mistaken didnt he get it back and I believe that was against the chargers. In games against steelers,browns, chargers, titans and etc every time David Reed had a good kick return it help the ravens offense score a touchdown.
When David Reed was on pup and wideouts like Tandon Doss and Laquan Williams seem like they would be ahead of him he came back and had a good preseason game performance then reclaim a edge over Williams and Doss.
Reed has shown countless of times that he can be a dangerous kick returner and he has seen time on offense; Reed was open when Torrey Smith caught the game winning catch against the steelers. I think Reed will come back and be alot better next season because nothing can beat a strong determination and yes he has had some setbacks but this should only make him better
I don’t know that any of that proves he has a strong determination Jazz and that’s a little hard for you to assume he does with no real evidence of that. I do like his potential as a kick returner, but you don’t hold roster spots for guys who only return kicks unless it’s a Devin Hester type.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I seen where special team coach have said David Reed is very competitive person and you cant be competitive if you dont have determination.
but you don’t hold roster spots for guys who only return kicks unless it’s a Devin Hester type
David Reed does more then kick returns he also plays on punt return coverages, he has seen time on the ravens offense, and unlike marcus smith he shown in preseason that he can be explosive player as a wideout
Explosive player who drops passes?
His career as a WR has been quite disappointing so far. Even ignoring preseason drops (since Torrey did the same thing), his inability to get on the field when our only proven WR was Q says something.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Explosive player who drops passes
I guess you talking about every wideout on the roster except doss
his inability to get on the field when our only proven WR was Q says something.
Let me say this again Reed saw time on offense he saw time on offense against the steelers, seahawks, and titans and eventually became the number four wideout when Lee Evans became healthy.
The Ravens dont use there number four wideout often and since they have Dennis and Ed Dickson it makes it hard for any number four wideout to see some time.
Let me ask you this since Reed is so bad where was Doss, Williams, Evans doing the bengels game ? There inability to do anything with Boldin absents saids alot. Doss and Williams didnt see anytime on the field and Evans drop a pass who evenutally was replace by Dennis Pitta at the wideout postion .
Let me say this again Reed saw time on offense he saw time on offense against the steelers, seahawks, and titans and eventually became the number four wideout when Lee Evans became healthy.
Must be Joe Flacco’s fault for not noticing him all those times he was wide open then.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
The difference is,
the other players actually have catches. That is, drops do not make up the majority of their targets.
Against the Steelers: subbing for Torrey as we were running our deep routes. He saw one pass on which he was never open. (To be fair, he had Ike on him).
Against Seattle: 2 reverses. 2 fumbles. Catches?
He played against the Titans? Or are we referring to his 77 yard return, the only time he’s crossed the 50 this season?
The inability for those in front of him on the depth chart to be effective is likely more of a damning factor than a helpful one. My point is, it isn’t one thing that brings down David Reed. It’s a large number of negatives countered by a small sample size and “explosiveness.” He’s now torn his ACL. While he may make a Welkerian return, I think it is more than likely that he won’t return to form until the ’13 season (or late next year maybe).
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
true
it is very late in the season for him to return for training camp.
Chances are we stash him on IR and give him one more shot in ’13
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Jazz have you ever seen a coach say a guy is lazy and needs to work harder or anything like that? It’s just coach talk. He gets time on offense, but hasn’t done much and he does play special teams, but that can easily be replaced. It’s just you make it sound like he’s already an amazing player who has proved himself to be an all pro and he’s a lock to be here. He’s had multiple injuries, off field issues, and bonehead plays on the field. I just don’t see how you can justify that he’s a lock to be here based off of that.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Jazz have you ever seen a coach say a guy is lazy and needs to work harder or anything like that? It’s just coach talk
so you know for a fact that its just coach talk and the special team coach is just lying?
it’s just you make it sound like he’s already an amazing player who has proved himself to be an all pro and he’s a lock to be here
thats not what im saying or making it out to be.
He’s had multiple injuries, off field issues, and bonehead plays on the field. I just don’t see how you can justify that he’s a lock to be here based off of that.
never said he will be a lock to be here but I do think the ravens will give him competition and give him another chance to see how he develops next season
so you know for a fact that its just coach talk and the special team coach is just lying?
He may or may not be “lying” per se, but it’s obviously coach talk. Calling a professional football player “competitive” is like calling a rocket scientist “intelligent.”
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
David Reed is very competitive person and you cant be competitive if you dont have determination
Jazz that’s a classic coach speak for "let’s say something vaguely positive about a guy. I don’t think he’s gonna be like “David isn’t really competitive unless he’s playing beer pong or Battlefield 3.”
If he’s so determined, he’ll win that roster spot next year. I really don’t understand what this debate is about. Facts: his job isn’t safe, but he will get his chance to stay with the team in training camp.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
He's shown twice that he can be a dangerous kick returner.
He’s dropped the ball three times. He’s like a Sam Koch punt (enjoys being downed inside the 20).
Reed is simply the next in a long line of former Ravens (take your pick: either Taylor, Hymes, Darling, Clayton, Williams, etc. or Brightful, Sams, Figurs, etc). Either way, I really don’t expect him to do much for this team.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Either way, I really don’t expect him to do much for this team.
Neither do I, but I wouldn’t put it past him to hang around in training camp next year and possibly earn his roster spot again.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I think the Oz might go get a 'real' returner.
Although I’m more than willing to blame the scheme rather than the returner for our poor returns, so who knows if that improves the situation. But I’d love to have a Peterson type back there. Can Jermaine come back on his 2 bad knees?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nice.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 4, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Berry
Give Damien Berry a shot. He’s on the practice squad, not sure about his ability to receive a kick, but he is explosive as hell running with the ball. Watch him on Youtube.
such a stud and is so important to this team. He’s what keeps our offense moving and you can always count on him to make a big play. out of non QB’s he is the MVP IMO.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Too Franchise or Not Franchise
That is the question.
When his agent lays out the facts that Bruce has laid out in front of Ozzie, I expect a huge contract to be negotiated…
The other beastly thing about Rice, except for the previous two games, he seems to have gotten faster as the season wore on. He outran the bungles’ secondary not once, but twice-! Have no clue how fast or slow their secondary is, but that fact Rice was able to do it in week seventeen, twice, speaks volumes.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Yeah during the press conference someone asked about how it seems like Rice has gotten better at finishing runs and it does look like that is something he has improved on.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
High knees!
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 4, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Harbs said
Rice works super hard on his legs IN season and is in better shape now than at the beginning of the season. Also, word is that Rice will be franchised this coming year so they can sign both Flacco and Grubbs and then Rice will get paid the following year.
aka 'Rexx'
If That is True
I fear we would have a Suggs or CJ2K situation where Rice sits out of training camp because he unhappy, gets injured and we loose a year of production out of him.
I think I would rather franchise Grubbs.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
What’s the cost of a franchise tag on G vs a RB? Quite a bit I’d imagine, especially with some of the ridiculous contracts given to RBs this year. If the FO wants to free up the most cap space possible for next season, they’ll sign Rice and Joe, and throw the tag on Grubbs.
Rice will earn some good money if he is franchised. I don't think he'll mind to be honest.
Though Grubbs could be franchised. He would certainly be cheaper, though he would also be cheaper on cap space to resign now compared to Rice so who knows.
by Roa on Jan 4, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
What I found
I can’t attest to the accuracy since it was a forum post, but he says the Franchise Tag for a RB is $7.7M and $9.4M for an OL (does not differentiate between positions). Per Wikipedia, the Franchise Tag for a RB in 2010 was $8,156,000 and the Tag for an OL was $10,731,000.
Adam Shefter speculated that to sign Ray Rice would take somewhere close to a four year deal worth $53.5 million and guarantees close to $30 million.
So yeah, especially considering the position he plays and the risk for career ending injury, Ray Rice would mind getting franchised.
"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare
And Given
The way Rice has come on as of late, and if he lights it up all the way to a SuperBowl victory, maybe even earning a SuperBowl MVP award, $53M won’t even get a callback from his agent… It will rapidly escalate to Purple Jesus money….
For reference purposes, Ray Rice is two years younger than AP.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Wow.
I want you to revisit this thread. A lot of people need to take a big step back and slap themselves in the face, very hard. MATT STEVENS!!!!!!
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
lol oh yes the great Amp post. Boy did that thread get interesting.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
That post is going to be front office gold when it comes time to do Rice’s contract. Ozzie reads the Beatdown, right?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
That honestly was pure genius Amp. Unbelievable how many people you actually got to sway their opinion on Rice.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
sure was
At the time, I was so angry it was on the front page. But in hindsight, I see it as pure genius. But it was so sad to see how many people you could convince of an opinion that you yourself did not hold (@amp).
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah which is why things around here get so crazy at times. Some fans won’t develop an opinion for themselves and only listen to the talking heads and baltimoreravens.com. Not that it’s wrong to use things from those sources, but it’s ridiculous how some people’s opinions change weekly and they take what’s being said by those sources as the written law.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Of course he does. Where else do you think he got the idea to cut Cary Williams, start Marc Bulger, and draft Casey Matthews?
by StuckInUtah on Jan 4, 2012 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL Casey Matthews
My buddies from Philadelphia talk bad about Casey Matthews the way the Kardashian family talks about Kris Humphries.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I do know that Rice doesn’t look like he did in 2009. Not saying he should be benched, but I don’t mind seeing Ricky on the field a little more often to grind out some of the tough yards.
Aaaaaaaaaand two short months later it’s Rice’s best season yet.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I had the same idea.
Decided against it. Thanks for doing it for me.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 4, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I Had to go Back
And look at Amp’s (in)famous post. What a thing of beauty.
At the time, Rice was in a bit of a slump so some folks thought he might be having an otherwise down year (by Rice standards). However, boy did he turn it around the last third of the season…
Would have been interesting if Rice did not turn it around -then the doubters would have really come out in force.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
To be honest, even if he hadn't turned it around and kept the form he had then he'd still be a top 10 RB. Right now I'm calling him top 3.
by Roa on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
You're Right
Right now, I would call Ray the #1 back in the league, even over MJD because of what else Rice brings to the table in terms of the passing game. Foster is the closest clone to Rice, but Rice has been more durable.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Durability
Gives Rice the edge. What good is Forte when he can’t stay on the field (and no, not at all bitter that his injury cost me a potential fantasy championship…)?
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
At the time, Rice was in a bit of a slump so some folks thought he might be having an otherwise down year (by Rice standards). However, boy did he turn it around the last third of the season…
If I had to guess, I’d say the whole point of that fan post was that fans are far to fickle and too prone to getting caught up in a player’s slumps or streaks. Rice has proven as much.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
fixed this for you
Rice also led the NFL in runs of at least 40 yards with five
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I think in the game that he got walked down against the Bengals, he didn’t trust his speed and out ran himself. I am surprised at how many big runs he had this year. Leach and our O-line are keys to his success all the way.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 4, 2012 8:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pay the man whatever he wants.
He’s worth every penny and more.
Franchise Grubbs, there should be enough money to sign Flacco and Rice to long term deals. I dont think Grubbs would mind as much, we have a good history of resigning players we franchise to long term deals (CMac, T Sizzle, Ngata)
This may sound insane
but I think it’s more important to ink Grubbs than Rice.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I don’t think it’s as important to sign Grubbs as it is to make sure we don’t have someone of Gurode’s caliber playing left guard. Grubbs is good, but it isn’t like our only options are him or a sieve.
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State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
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I just think our best option is to ink him, and wait for the Rice deal. As long as things are handled amicably, I think the Rice deal will take a lot longer since he’s a superstar. The situation reminds me of Suggs.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Agreed. I don’t think we overpay to keep Grubbs, but I do think we should do what’s reasonable to try and retain him and keep the best G duo in the league together. Especially with the revolving door at LT it would be nice to have Grubbs here since he has been with the O for years and also is one of the better G’s in the league who can help out with whoever is playing LT.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I don’t think we overpay to keep Grubbs, but I do think we should do what’s reasonable to try and retain him and keep the best G duo in the league together.
I agree. I just get the feeling that some people are overvaluing Grubbs because of Gurode’s play when Grubbs was injured. There was a massive drop off not just because Grubbs is good, but also because Gurode sucked. Drafting a guard or getting one in free agency to replace Grubbs isn’t a guaranteed repeat of those early weeks this season. If Grubbs decides to take a Snyder-style payoff, we won’t automatically throw in the towel next year.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
true
but in the event that Grubbs wants the deal we offer, his deal will be much quicker and easier than Rice’s deal. Rice wants, and deserves, a mega-deal, and those are incredibly time-consuming. If we’ve learned anything from Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, and Haloti Ngata, it is that.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Oniel Cousins for LG!
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
arguably the second best back in the NFL!
After Arian Foster. Who has a better 2010 campaign than Rice’s 2011 campaign and who had significantly more total yards per game this year than Rice. Had foster not missed 3 games to injury and one to rest for the playoffs, he would have easily been #1 in all major categories. Despite splitting a ton of carries with Ben Tate.
That being said, Rice needs to get paid. No player should be as big a part of their offense as he is and not be paid like it. Games are notably mismanaged when he doesn’t touch the ball 20+ times.
by _empty on Jan 5, 2012 1:39 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Given Foster's
Injury issues, I think a reasonable argument could be made for Rice over Foster, this year at least. Granted, Foster has some great numbers, when he is healthy, but if you can’t stay on the field…
But, yeah, last year was an insane year for Foster. Be interesting to see next year, assuming he comes back healthy, if he can top 2010…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
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