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Lardarius Webb




I am not sure where to start but he has surprised us all. Coming into the season everyone thought he would be second string at best. Dominique Foxworth was coming off of injury. Chris Carr was resigned to a nice contract. Ravens drafted Jimmy Smith in the first round. Cary Williams was a standout in training camp. All the while, Webb was working on his craft and making strides in silence. He led the AFC north in interceptions with five. Tied for third in the league in pass deflections (25) with Darelle Revis. Not to mention, he is the only starting corner in the league to not allow a TD pass.

In my opinion I didn't realize how much we needed Webb until the San Diego game. He had a toe injury and sat out that game. I'm not going to post stats because I still have a bitter taste. Lets just say he destroyed our secondary. In the postseason he registered three interceptions. Made a acrobatic snag against Tom Brady that set the tone in the game defensively. This year he has made his mark on this team and the league. Not sure if he is a shutdown corner yet but he is definetly on his way.

There has been some talk about moving him to free safety when Reed is gone. I say we leave him where he is. This guy has been a playmaker since day one. Another great find by our front office.

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Totally agree

Should be in Hawaii at the Pro Bowl, without a doubt. Last season I thought other teams offenses targeted him, as he was having trouble, which I now atribute to still recovering from his ACL injury.

Now, he is as physical as any corner and if he was a couple of inches taller, he’d be the #1 corner perhaps in the game next year. Him and Jimmy together? With Cary and perhaps even Carr and/or Foxworth? Maybe even Chykie Brown will pan out. Guess we won’t be needing Julian Edelman anytime soon?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 26, 2012 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Or troy brown…

by Raven_all_day on Jan 26, 2012 9:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Webb is a beast. We need to find another returner.

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by El.Dude on Jan 27, 2012 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah I normally don’t like using a pick on a guy who’s only capable of being a returner, but I think we should use a late pick on someone. Somebody who can return both punts and kicks.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Similar RB to Rice, but with major injury concerns. I am looking more so at Bernard Pierce from Temple. Bigggg back.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If he falls to say the 4th I wouldn’t mind Pead. He would add an elusive speed back to the O and also as shown in the senior bowl can be a big time returner as well. I still like Anthony Allen a lot and think he can be a real solid power back

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Bernard Pierce still as the RB we should draft if we go that route. The guy scored 27 TD’s this season, including 6 against my Terps.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is those TDs are a little inflated?

I’m half joking… I think he’s a good back, I’d definitely take him.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Blasphemy! I just like his size. He is a 6’0" 225 lb power back. Those are the types of players we need to compliment Rice. I like Pead and James as well, but they are too similar to what Rice does.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The reason I like Pead is just because how fast he is. He is similar to Rice, but Rice is more quick than fast where as Pead is a former track star. I think he could add more explosiveness to the offense as well as his return ability as a KR/PR. I guess I also just liked the little bit of what I got to see from Allen and Berry as far as power backs. I think one of them will step up and take power back duties.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 1, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant to help in the return game...

Plus having 2 RB’s with playmaking skill sets is a good thing.

by Raven Zey on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. We have not had a set return man on this team since Harbaugh became the coach, and that is disturbing considering he was a ST coach for so long.

Praying that Ozzie takes a look at Tavon Austin out of WVU. The guy is a beast with the ball in his hands

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 27, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah I would love Tavon Austin. Could probably even throw him in on O to add some explosive plays here and there.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Reminds me alot of Steve Smith from Carolina. Similar build and great at turning a 5 yard pass into a 30 yard gain. WVU used him so much underneath, he would be a perfect fit for our offense and immediately step in as both the KR and PR.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 27, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be great. A guy like this if used right can definitely help out an offense even though he is undersized. The only problem is if we to come out on O for us he would probably only be used on end arounds.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

  • if he were to

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I doubt the ravens would draft him especially if they have there eyes set on a big tall physical wideout now if he becomes a undraft free agent then i see the ravens showing interest.

The ravens currently have a player that could be in kick returns by the name of philip livas and he was a very good kick returner in college

by jazz20 on Jan 27, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

They could very well draft Austin, not sure why you would think they wouldn’t. He is maybe the most explosive return man in college this year.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

They could very well draft Austin, not sure why you would think they wouldn’t.

I honestly dont see the ravens drafting Austin because he not even entering the 2012 draft this year

by jazz20 on Jan 27, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

He plans to enter the 2012 draft in 2035

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 29, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Its been two weeks almost , move on find a life you lost you suck you are on the down slope. you won a bowl 11 years ago. You may not (sorry ,will)not see another one for 11 years. B more cause you can’t be any less.

by bluemont on Jan 30, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Flagged.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 31, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

considering that we’re talking about who we’re drafting, i’d say we’ve moved on. Unless “moving on” to you means completely abandoning our team… apparently every fanbase who hasn’t won a Super Bowl this decade should just boycott their team.

aaaaaand I flagged you.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Livas is even smaller than Austin and Austin is faster. He wouldn’t go until late in the draft anyways. They could very well use a late pick on him and still draft a big WR early on.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yamon!

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 27, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

My sleeper pick for PR/WR

Devon Wylie out of Fresno State. I could see him as a great return guy and as a Wes Welker type WR in 3rd down packages.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Adams

KR/PR for Arkansas. He was the SEC Special Teams player of the year. Remember this return from this season?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxW2mL8BbOA

And a couple highlights. Dude is a monster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtd2pNdsWUU

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he could be gone by the time we pick in round 2 though. He was arguably the most impressive player at the senior bowl and if he can run in the 4.3’s at the combine I think some team will snag him. They were raving about his hands, route running and big play ability. A lot were comparing him to Desean Jackson.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 29, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I saw that. His ability to cut back reminds alot of Donte Hall.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 29, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He certainly helped his draft stock in the Senior Bowl, but 2nd round still seems too high for him. If he’s there in the 3rd round, then he might be worth considering. I would love to see an Adams or Wylie type in our passing game – it would really add an extra dimension. But then again, that’s not a dimension of a Cam Cameron offense, so we’re probably just dreaming here.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Jan 29, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Plus, Joe is 5’ 11’ and 190. I thought we wanted to get somebody much bigger and fast for the outside?

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by vlad755 on Jan 30, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

BPA is one thing but given Cam’s stubbornness with these vertical routes, I really hope Ozzie passes on any more WRs who aren’t at least 6’1".

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I am looking more at his abilities as a KR/PR than I am WR.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Statistically, he is a top 5 CB in the league

Guy had a monster season, no TD’s allowed, 2nd lowest QB rating allowed against him. I did not see Webb out of position once the entire year. He is on his way to becoming the best CB in Ravens history. I certainly don’t remember C-Mac be this good in his 3rd season, let alone having a season like Webb had throughout his entire career.

With the elite potential we saw from Jimmy at time this year, it is pretty safe to say we will have maybe the top CB tandem in the league a few years down the road.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 27, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah a lot of scouts sites had him as the #2 ranked CB behind only Revis. That says something about how good of a year he had.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

2008 AFC Championship game

Our starting CB’s

1. Frank Walker
2. Corey Ivy
3. Evan Ogelsby

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 27, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Please don’t remind me of that.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Jan 27, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That happened in real life? I thought it was just a horrible nightmare.

by Mayne_Event on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I can best that

if you make me. Just remember ’07.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 27, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Ronnie Prude, David Pittman?

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 27, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The blowout.

Payback for ’06. That game was awful.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 27, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

and I think Frank got injured that game…..ouch!

Scott Hines

by shines on Jan 29, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

D still only gave up 16 points,

so something went right.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 29, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

We ate Bens lunch that game, I remember Sizzles arm was basically hanging on by a thread and he still had three sacks that game. Darren Stone…sorry for bringing the name up.

Scott Hines

by shines on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair,

the man shouldn’t have been playing. Pretty sure he got owned on the opening kickoff and sustained a concussion.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I refuse to let myself go back to those too much, but its inexcusable. In a game when you’re down by 2 with about 3 minutes to play and lil’ Jimmy just put you at mid-field…you DO NOT make some boneheaded mistake that results in your rookie QB being expected to drive the length of the field. What the league has done with concussions and the way they deal with them is great, but before these rules there were players with concussions all the time and they knew better than to do certain stupid things. Screw him!

Scott Hines

by shines on Jan 30, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember it well :)

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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 29, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazing how a season can change a secondary.

Last year we had to bring in a pretty decent Josh Wilson to not totally suck back there. Fabian Washington, a hurt Webb, and Carr was not a great tandem.

Now we’ll have one of the brightest prospects in the league, a guy coming off a truly elite season, and a mess of depth behind them that could contend for starting spots elsewhere

by Roa on Jan 27, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Lock him up

Both Webb and Cary are RFA’s this year. I would advocate locking up at least Webb now to long term deal while we still have some negotiation leverage. And for the right price, I would do a deal with Cary too.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Jan 29, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

Not sure if we will bring Cary back after the following season. He had a solid year for a great defense. Someone will give him big $$$. We have 3 #1 CB’s on this team in my opinion.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 29, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Are 3 #1 CB's a luxury?

I agree we have 3 #1 CB’s on this team.

I believe you NEED 3 #1 CB’s in this pass driven league.

So why not lock him and Ladarius up now when they are RFA and you have some leverage?

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Jan 29, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, whatever Ozzie wants to do.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 29, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

But the double-edged sword of all these young studs we develop is that once they prove their worth they want an appropriate pay day and become cap casualties.

Big reason I’m not sure we bring back JJ, as sad as that would make me.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 29, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah sadly he is probably appealing to a lot of teams. I like him but his price may drive him out.

I think we keep Cary. It is important to have at least 3 top CBs. 3WR sets are extremely common nowadays and being able to put Webb in the slot lets him play best.

by Roa on Jan 29, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope we can keep Cary. I’m no capologist though. It’s really nice to have 4 decent corners that can start at a moments notice.

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by El.Dude on Jan 30, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Even a capologist can’t be sure right now, there’s too many moving parts at this point and we can’t be sure how things will shake out.

Honestly losing Cary and Jarrett is very possible, but neither would be catastrophic. Kruger would certainly improve any pressure we’d get on 1st down passes but he’s definitely a downgrade at setting the edge (as is just about any SLB in the league really).

Someone will pay JJ I’m sure. Really any 34 team, of which there are now quite a few, could upgrade with him at the Sam position, and he’s played in a number of 34-based schemes so he’s incredibly versatile. The guy’s just a stud.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 30, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

just read thread again

didn’t realize Cary was an RFA. That’s a pretty good opportunity to secure him for more time. JJ will be more complicated though.

BTW if any of you are thinking “what about Sergio”… no. Stop it. We’ve seen nothing yet from the kid, our expectations should be exactly zero leaving room to be only pleasantly surprised.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 30, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize that either. Nice! We’ll get him for another year.

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by El.Dude on Jan 30, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I could see Chuck pulling a Rex in regards to JJ. He’d be not too expensive, and the perfect guy to show the Colts our scheme.

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by El.Dude on Jan 30, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but then our players left for the Jets because

Rex had been with them for a while and they all had a great relationship with him. Pagano was only there for a year and we don’t hear as much about him and the players.

by Roa on Jan 30, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Pagano was here for longer than a year

he was the secondary coach before he was DC, so I see him taking either Ruki or Zbi with him.

by YeahDonnie on Jan 30, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Pagano was our secondary coach before being D-Coordinator. With the Colts having Freeney and Mathis, I can’t imagine them switching to a 3-4. I could see the Colts going after McKinney or Zbi though.

by Mayne_Event on Jan 30, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That Colts defense is going to be complete poop next season, I’m not sure I see JJ wanting to waste valuable years in his prime on one of the worst defenses in the league.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

im not sure if it will with a good defensive mind head coach and a defensive coodinator

that has been most likely tutored by Dick Le beau. I think the colts defense could improve especially if the colts are able to add some key free agents to make it better also from the draft as well

by jazz20 on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at their personnel… they have two good pass rushers and Bethea… the rest of that defense is ass.

I know schematics and coaching will lead to improvement, but they won’t be good next year.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed and it sounds like they are switching to a 3-4 which Freeney and Mathis have never even played in and I question if either could be an OLB in one. Most teams that usually make that switch really struggle the first year from the lack of personnel to run it.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

What leverage?

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 29, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He is an RFA

So all we need do to retain him next year is tender a qualifying offer – and he gets that or we have the right of first refusal to match another team’s offer and get a draft pick from them (depending on the tender amount). So his bargaining power is much more limited now than next year when he will be a UFA, unless we sign him long term.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Jan 29, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

ohhhhh didn’t know he was RFA.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 30, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

To make more today, and in case a serious injury happens this year.

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by El.Dude on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

Signing bonus. The only guaranteed money in the NFL.

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Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it’s your opinion but we have one true #1, and that’s Webb. Cary and Jimmy are still perfecting there craft. Next year though we should have a top core group of corners.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 29, 2012 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Remember the cap goes up a lot in 13 and there are exemptions to be used this year. Every team in the AFCN is in good shape save for pitt. Colbert will likely attempt to restructure and cut some of the old or hurt guys…

by Evan Skev on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You should do a fan post breaking down the cap situation in a “the day free agency begins” scenario.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Jan 30, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

well played.

"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."

by jackmca on Feb 1, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't agree more

Surprised the heck outa me! What an athelete. Webby is playing lights out and can only get better. Shoulda gone to the Pro Bowl.

Formerly 88Keys

by RantinRaven on Jan 30, 2012 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

Imagine this next year

Jimmy on one side
Webb on the other
Gorrer in nickel
Chykie in the dime
FA rookie Tashaun Gipson behind Jimmy
FA local rookie Cameron Chism behind Webb
I see Baltimore losing Foxworth and Carr to make some wiggle room, and picking up some players with lots of upside to serve as depth late or in FA.
After a real offseason I see Jimmy being good enough to hold down the other corner spot.
Cary had so many tackles this year because teams continually attacked his side.
I saw a lot of games where he just blew it in coverage.

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