Cam Cameron To Remain With Ravens: Dean Pees Likely New DC
According to a story in The National Football Post linking an article in The Baltimore Sun, it appears that OC Cam Cameron will be remaining with the team under the stipulation they hire a QB's Coach. Also, current LB coach Dean Pees appears likely to be named the next DC of the team.
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Not surprised
I was going to support either decision. This offense was 4th in the AFC in PPG, not bad. The passing game slacked off a bit, but we had a totally new group of players trying to mesh without a freaking off season.
Think about how much better guys like Torrey, Pitta, Dickson will become being able to get a full off season, OTA and training camp under them as now starters for this offense. We get a healthy Lee Evans, Boldin will be Boldin, and as long as the OL is taken care of, the arrow is only pointing up as far as potential goes. It is now up to the players and especially Cam to execute the great talent we have here.
I am still supporting bring Hue Jackson back here. Let him and Cam combine minds and figure out a way to maximize the talent.
Rice is going to get his carries, it is not just a matter of figuring out what beats the other defense. I think Cam showed that trait brilliantly against NE.
Ozzie makes the calls, and I trust that he made the right decision here.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Onward and upward… I thought it may have been the time to move on since Cam’s contract expired, but if the Ravens’ coaches and front office have confidence in what he’s doing and how he’s doing it, so do I. I really like Cameron from an analytical—X’s and O’s—point of view but was questioning the confidence that the team had in him and his message. Apparently, that’s not an issue, so that’s good news.
I think if the Ravens can get another play-maker at receiver, this offense could really explode.
Yup
If Jeffery (and let Evans go) falls to us, I think we’d – finally – have the recievers to run Cam’s offense properly…I think a big, athletic WR and a QB coach are musts if he stays.
Offensive Line better step up, because we’re going to need 4 and 5 second pockets for years to come now.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I'm more angry now than when we lost the Patriots game
a loss is a loss, but I can not tolerate stupid decisions that hurt our football team. Cam’s system absolutely does not fit our players, and he refuses to craft a system that our players can excel in (in the passing game, I think he’s actually good with the run game). We don’t have the O line to run his long developing routes, and with Grubbs hitting free agency, and McKinnie another year older, I don’t see how that improves. And for God’s sake, use Boldin (and others) in the middle of the field! I can count on one hand how many slants or drags our receivers ran this year.
he’s actually good with the run game
When he runs it more than 10 times a game
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure what the situation is here, but I’m not sure I’m comfortable with our wide receiver coaching situation.
I’m guessing no changes will be made, but I was pretty frustrated with the ineptitude of route running.
Hands I blame the player for, because you shouldn’t need a coach to tell you to catch the damn ball, but routes and separation were probably an even bigger issue.
We need major improvement there.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I think with better playcalling, you get more separation. But I do agree that the WR coach should go for sure. Boldin never looked more pedestrian.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
To Pin
Our hopes on this
especially Cam to execute
Scares me…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
especially Cam to execute
Can we please execute Cam. Oh wait you’re in Maryland you do not excute anybody
Well Played
I should have thought of that…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
+3
This, this, and this.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
We should just kill the whole system instead of replacing the limbs.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
Yeah I don’t really get giving a failure more scapegoats. Why not can everyone on offense and start fresh? I also hate offensive consultant…. if we have to bring in someone to consult the offense, why not just hire them for the OC job and call it a day?
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
if we have to bring in someone to consult the offense, why not just hire them for the OC job and call it a day?
Offense consultant is basicly a extra mind or should say a person that give a offensive coodinator some tips or ideas here and there own how to make the offense better. Im sure offense consultant does some more things but they do help the offense coodinator alot because two minds are sometimes better than one
I don’t want a guy leading the offense if he needs tips or ideas. If we really need that, then I can be the consultant if it means I can slap the shit outta him whenever he goes to run on 3rd and 10 or calls a deep pass when its 3rd and 1.
The last time we had 2 minds, 1 of them got canned at the end of the year and pissed off our franchise QB because of it. Cam is sticking around but it has to be because he has some dirty photos of someone at this point
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want a guy leading the offense if he needs tips or ideas.
Its not about a guy needing tips or idea its just extra help when its necessary. Im sure every good/great offensive coodinator has receive help in a positive way by their offense consultant.
some times/most of the times games plans/ideas are not created solely by one person . player on the ravens defense said so them selves that Chuck Pagano received ideas from other defensive staffs when it came to game planing and ideas it wasnt always pagano . Why you think the ravens defense stayed so good for so long
You may not agree with the idea of a offensive consultant but two minds is better than one and its helps alot at times.
Cam is sticking around but it has to be because he has some dirty photos of someone at this point
I look at it like this the ravens cut some veterans that were both Joe Flacco security blankets and the offense improve from where it was in 2010. Im sure Ozzie and John took in the consideration that the offense had alot of inexperienced wideouts/tight ends and think with more experience under cam it will improve next season with more key addition from the draft/free agency.
The last time we had 2 minds, 1 of them got canned at the end of the year and pissed off our franchise QB because of it.
I dont no the real reason behind that and im sure there was a real reason for that beyond cam
m sure every good/great offensive coodinator has receive help in a positive way by their offense consultant.
I don’t really know of any teams that are ranked in the top 10 that have an actual position called “offensive consultant”. You generally only need to be consulted when you suck at doing the job and they don’t feel like replacing you.
Of course not 1 guy creates a gameplan and not 1 guy is in charge of the entire offense in that regard. Cam has other staff for a reason, but I bet that no one on that staff kept telling Cam to send Boldin on Go Routes all year long or to run on 3rd and 10 while throwing the deep pass on 3rd and 1. That is the issue with Cam that we all have.
The sad part is, Cam has shown brilliance at times to only F it up the next week. That New England game was a masterpiece of coaching excellence and had that gameplan been put in for every 16 regular season games, we would have been a top 10 offense this year. Yet, we sit here at 15th overall with 2 ProBowl Olineman, a ProBowl RB and FB, a young stud of a WR and a former ProBowl WR with a ProBowl caliber QB at the helm of it all. We’ve seen what this talent can do at times (first Steeler game and the NE game) and then we see what happens when Cam gets too involved (Seattle, Jax, Tenn) and tries to be cute or can’t close a game.
Let me actually list out all the problems that I have with Cam so its well documented:
•He cannot change his gameplan in the middle of a game
•He rarely tailors his plan to what the opponent does well/poorly to begin with
•He misuses his personnel
•He gives up on the run WAY too fast
•He does not tailor his gameplans to what our personnel do properly (ie: struggle blocking, so he uses 7 step drops and routes that take 5-7 seconds to develop)
•He alienates his players to the point that they speak out (Ray Rice, Joe Flacco, Derrick Mason and even defensive players have called him out directly or indirectly in the media)
Those are things he does poorly. Those issues aren’t completely reliant on players executing properly and they come directly from him. Those are issues that are never mentioned with a good OC. He even has other issues that could be pawned off on player execution and his staff’s ability to do their jobs, but they still reflect poorly on Cam as a boss and coach of the offense. There are no excuses for the things you see above and while no one is perfect, those issues aren’t things you see on perennial playoff teams or top 10 offenses, but from struggling teams.
So far every excuse you have given revolves around “I don’t know the reason, but it can’t be all Cam’s fault”. At what point do we look at the guy after replacing everyone around him and say “it is Cam’s fault”? At what point do we look at the situation we are routinely in with him as an OC and look at his mediocre track record of past coaching experience and get tired of the guy? At what point do you, as a fan, finally realize that it can’t be on everyone else all the time and that even if it is, that reflects horribly on the guy that is paid a ton of money to coach players and staff to be better?
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
I Think
This is the first post of Jazz’s that I agree with 100%.
Maybe I should buy a Lotto ticket on the way home tonight…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Cam might stay
But I believe the source for all of this info is Mike Preston – so I’ll wait for the official word…
Well I thought our offense could be better under a new scheme, but I guess we get more Cam. We have to find another playmaker on the outside though if they really want this to work.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
They definitely have to do something about the WR’s. For this offense to get more consistent they have to get better on the outside and guys who can win one on one battles because there’s not many designed plays that will get them open.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I don’t think you can really blame coaches for hands. Routes and separation on the other hand, that does fall on the coaches.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
im selling my tickets. cam is terrible and his philosophys stink. harbaugh is a weak coach who continues to panic and fold up in the final minutes of huge games. he was back and forth like a blind chicken as bilichick watched from across the field at his rattled counterpart. from harbaugh failure to red flag what would have been a gigantic mason TD in the pitt playoff game a fewe years ago to NOT using the TO to at least revies evans drop OR give his kicking team a little more time to set…
we kicked that ball at 1 second. is he a friggin idiot!!! im done with the coaching staff and there sorry game management. our short yardage plays stink, our inability to establish any one aspect of the game unless rice runs for a 70 yarder. harbaugh was in pure panic mode sunday, pushing his assistant coach, not preparing his team, not getting it doen on 2nd and 1!! 2nd and 1. 1 yard for 4 more plays and we win…maybe.
With this coaching staff you never can be certain of anything. I have no interest in watching Cam for another season. We know what he gives you. Flacco will never get better with that shit play calling. Bishotti made the same mistake brining Billick back for more years and now he does it again with Cam. Poor coaching. Man, Pagano is lucky.
I have no interest in watching Cam for another season.
I hear Shannahan Jr down there in Wurshington DC is running a nice system. Got root for them.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Are you really all the interested in seeing us be 15th in offense this year again? Cam was and is a serious problem for our offense so acting like we are all happy about this is a little goofy. Lets wait for the official word, but lets still act like we all want to act and throw a little temper tantrum that a crappy OC is coming back to town.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Are you really all the interested in seeing us be 15th in offense this year again?
so you think a new offensive coodinator bringing in a new scheme will most likely get the ravens offense higher than 15th offense
Dropped passes are a problem but Green Bay dealt with them and was still extremely effective on offense. Obviously having 10 in a playoff game completely screwed them, but the greater issue is separation IMO.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Completely agree. Cam absolutely is the problem and we’ve seen glimpses of him being a good OC at times. Just more often than not, he’s a crappy one, but the problem has been outlined and shown for everyone to see.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
To Quote
MD, “yes”.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Are you really all the interested in seeing us be 15th in offense this year again?
No, I am not. But I think a full off season (instead of a lockout) with all these new, young players will bring that # up. The offensive struggles were a group effort, not just Cam. Blocking was shit for a while, drops out the ass, Joe maybe holding the ball too long.
I still think Joe can thrive under Cam. Those comebacks he had this year, we have never seen that stuff from Joe before. He is making serious progress.
Nothing we can really do now, is there?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I can agree with this. I want Cam out and think we could benefit from a new scheme, but still believe Joe and the offense can thrive under Cam. We have some playmakers on this team and I believe they will make the necessary plays to get it done. If we were a team that relied solely on Offense I wouldn’t be too confident, but I do think our offense can improve a bit from last year and even a little bit of improvement would be big for us as a team.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I dig it
but I reserve the right to be nervous about Cam’s return. I’m not a big fan.
Cam called both his best and his worst games this year. A lot of the failures definitely came down to player execution, but it always seems to obvious to me at home when Cam needs to make adjustments and doesn’t.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I can understand where you are coming from, as it isn’t just Cam. But not punishing the guy and letting him continue forward is telling everyone that you are happy where you are at. Ultimately, all those issues you bring up are on Cam as the OC and at the very least on him because of the types of plays he calls. He’s notorious for being a “my way or the highway” type of guy which is great, but not when it doesn’t work and not when the guy refuses to adjust in-game.
Joe can be good under Cam just like the offense can be good. It won’t be great and I think just changing philosophy could do wonders for this offense and for Joe as well. There isn’t anything we can really do ever, but you can absolutely complain about the scenario. We almost went to the SuperBowl under Cam, so we can’t complain too much really but it doesn’t change anyone’s feelings about the guy and we couldn’t expect the offense to suddenly break through after 4 years of mediocrity, yet we should have an offense that is a top 10 offense right now given the personnel we have currently.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Joe maybe holding the ball too long.
I don’t want to hear this. Joe holds the ball too long because Cam’s shit scheme doesn’t allow a WR to get open. Cam’s route tree looks like a connect the dot puzzle of a dropped bag of marbles. The O line isn’t good enough to give Joe enough time for the 15 second route to play out, but Cam refuses to change anything. He sticks to his system and his beliefs no matter what instead of adapting to the strengths and weaknesses of the team. I am beyond pissed that he is staying here.
im selling my tickets. cam is terrible and his philosophys stink. harbaugh is a weak coach who continues to panic and fold up in the final minutes of huge games
Harbaugh definately didnt fold up in the play offs ands I dont think you know what you talking about.
using the TO to at least revies evans drop OR give his kicking team a little more time to set…
Even if they would had reviewed the evan drop it still wouldnt be a touchdown cause he didnt have both feet down and referees said so themselves they wasnt going to review it because it was quiet clear he didnt have both feet down. The new rule in the nfl was that every referee has to do a automatic review of a questionable touchdown and Evans didnt have a both feet down before the ball was knock out his hands.
I dont see how any body could question Harbaugh decision to allow, Billy Cundiff aka Pro Bowl kicker to kick a 32 yard field goal with out a time out.
harbaugh was in pure panic mode sunday, pushing his assistant coach, not preparing his team, not getting it doen on 2nd and 1!! 2nd and 1. 1 yard for 4 more plays and we win…maybe
I would love to see you do better .
Billick back for more years and now he does it again with Cam. Poor coaching. Man, Pagano is lucky.
it hasnt even happen yet its not official .
I dont see how any body could question Harbaugh decision to allow, Billy Cundiff aka Pro Bowl kicker to kick a 32 yard field goal with out a time out.
Finishing a game decided by less than 7 points with a timeout left is a terrible, terrible coaching move. Does he think those are going to roll over like this is AT&T?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
The timeout definitely should have been used because they were all rushing on to the field. I saw in a Bellichek interview he said they considered icing him, but saw how everyone was rushing onto the field and the play clock was running down so decided not to.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
wow.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
My mind set doiing that time was that it was a 32 yard kick which consider easy for kicker like Billy Cundiff so you shouldnt have no problem
making the kick.
He should have made it, but it’s easier to make it when you have time to collect yourself instead of running onto the field rushing to get it off before the play clock runs out.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
That just adds even more pressure to the situation.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
There’s a word for what we’re doing right now: Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
Let’s just drop it.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
not monday morning qb’ing..thought this during the actual moment. im watching the clock and said call the time out. i also said challenge the drop pass-just in case. harbaugh blows these every year.
He couldn't challenge the drop.
Less than 2 minutes to go.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think everyone really thinks a TO should have been used, but the kick still should have been made regardless. It was a chipshot for an NFL kicker and we can’t excuse the miss because he was rushed (he also should have had a better understanding of the offense’s position on the field and what down it was regardless of the scoreboard).
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Is this true?
The new rule in the nfl was that every referee has to do a automatic review of a questionable touchdown
I thought it was only if a TD was scored that the play was automatically reviewed. I think all questionable plays regarding scores should be reviewed automatically, but I didn’t think they were.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
they review every touchdown
thats initially signaled a touchdown. if its ruled incomplete/out of bounds, its either SoL or coaches challenge.
So it wasn't necessarily reviewed
as it was never ruled a TD.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'll buy them!
What section do you sit in?
Bulger/Smith 2011 :)
It's entertaining how stories travel through the web
The Baltimore Sun (Preston): “Pagano out, Pees likely runner up, Cameron may stay”
The National Football Post: “Pees to replace Pagano, Cameron will stay”
Baltimore Beatdown: “Cameron is staying”
Also, why even cite the National Football Post if they’re just rehashing the Baltimore Sun?
90% of what Mike Preston says
is pure unadulterated bullshit.
He has fucked over so many people in the organization over the years I doubt he has any solid sources left, except maybe the cafeteria staff and the bathroom attendents- since his known prevalence to enjoy free food must be followed by an emptying of his bowels…
by RavensfaninTX on Jan 26, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
…and here I was thinking the emptying of his bowels is what his writing was considered.
by Mayne_Event on Jan 28, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
true indeed
this has been an interesting game of telephone.
Preston’s story says that Cameron, according to a league source, is behaving as if he expects to have his job. That is a far cry from him being resigned.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
There is always the question of continuity
If Cam is to go out, one would want someone runs a version of the offence he was running to continue the show. Increment improvements are what we needed. While the total revolution idea sounds great and exciting, its chance of working is very slim.
why?
Plenty of teams succeed the same year they implement new offensive schemes.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
The last game was a microcosm of this whole season for Cameron.
He calls passing plays when he should call run plays and vice-versa.
There were too many empty backfield sets. The O-line isn’t good enough,the receivers aren’t fast enough and there was no RB to give Flacco an extra second to pass.
Really?
Cam called an excellent game in New England, and I’m one of his biggest critics. Cam called all the right plays to put us in a position to win that game, we just didn’t execute. Cameron didn’t throw Joe’s only pick and he didn’t drop Lee Evans’ would-be touchdown.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
We can bitch and complain bug Cam played a huge part in getting us as far as we got. He did call some unorthodox plays at times but he called the plays the gave us a chance to win games. I just want him to utilize what we have. No reason for Doss to not have a part in the offense.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It’s pretty hard to put Doss on the active roster when he’s as horrifically bad as he is on special teams. A 4th or 5th wideout has to be able to cover punts and tackle, and with Doss it looks like we’re using 10 men.
He’s easily blocked, doesn’t maintain his lane, and tackles like a girl. He needs to step that shit up or he’ll be a healthy scratch for most games next year as well.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I don’t really remember him being too bad on Special Teams. Do you have any examples?
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I just really don’t remember him at all seeing the field this year. I think he might have had a bobbled punt, but so has everyone else we put back there, so its all the same.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'm done with this team.
Cam Cameron - the creator of the Prevent Offense™, and best-selling author of "150 Short Runs Into the Line on 3rd and 10"
re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs
Peace out
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Preston says
that his league source reports that Cameron called a meeting to give offseason plans to his assistant coaches, which is why the source reasons that Cam will probably remain in Baltimore. But the source also said that a Quarterback coach would be hired, which is very good news.
This was also interesting about pagano:
The hiring of Pagano was a surprise considering that he had only been the Ravens defensive coordinator for one season. But the Ravens had the No. 3 ranked defense in the NFL, and Pagano is young, bright and fiery, even getting into a heated argument with Harbaugh in the closing minutes of the playoff game against Houston when the Ravens offense failed to run out the clock.
According to the source, Pagano’s relationship with Harbaugh was still slightly strained.
“That would have been interesting to see how things would have worked out if Chuck didn’t get the job in Indianapolis,” said the source. “Their exchange was very heated.”
Hmmmm…
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
blockquote fail
The hiring of Pagano was a surprise considering that he had only been the Ravens defensive coordinator for one season. But the Ravens had the No. 3 ranked defense in the NFL, and Pagano is young, bright and fiery, even getting into a heated argument with Harbaugh in the closing minutes of the playoff game against Houston when the Ravens offense failed to run out the clock.
According to the source, Pagano’s relationship with Harbaugh was still slightly strained.
"That would have been interesting to see how things would have worked out if Chuck didn’t get the job in Indianapolis," said the source. "Their exchange was very heated."
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
My guess, Pagano was pissed the O couldn’t do more against Houston. Harbs probably defended Cam as always.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
And Chuck
Obviously having a functioning brain, realized, as most people living in the free world, that with less than three minutes left, on second and third down, with the opposition having already used one TO, YOU RUN THE BLESSED FOOTBALL-!!!
I am almost a little surprised Chuck didn’t go all Buddy Ryan on Cam’s Kevin Gilbride…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Didn't we determine
that Flacco audibled to passes on those plays?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
i just dont
believe in cam being capable to change. we can have as many talented guys as any other team but he is just too conservative to utilize them. i cant see much improvement and feel sorry for joe stuck in this situation.
by captain dobey on Jan 26, 2012 2:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I like the idea of promoting from within so I'm glad to see Pees get a mention in the DC slot
Cam staying on the other hand gives me no joy. He’s a roadblock. We’ve played around him for the last few years but it is time to break through it.
Cam Cameron sticking around another year is the most offensive thing he has ever done while in Baltimore.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Why so many Cam haters?
We are gonna win the superbowl next year, and Cam will get offers the next year after that. So why are you whining???
Doubt it. He got to the AFC championship game and called one of his better games and I never even heard a mention of his name.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Aside from “who will we replace Cam with?”
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 29, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
This Is
What I have been saying, if Cam was so good, or thought of within NFL circles as being such a good OC, his name would at least be rumored to be attached to some potential coaching vacancies… Not a peep… crickets…
Cam’s cell phone rings as about as MaLoR’s does on a Friday night…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
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