The Irony
by jackmca on Jan 22, 2012 6:30 PM EST
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So there you have it, Ravens fans. You got what you asked for: a great statistical postseason game from Joe Flacco. You were never satisfied with wins. You only wanted to see if Joe could "do it." This is what it looks like when your quarterback "does it" and the rest of your team doesn't.
All you ever wanted was a statistically attractive Joe Flacco game. You wanted to see him go into a hostile environment, under pressure, and complete tough passes. You wanted to see him put his team on his back and march the offense down the field. You wanted to see him outplay an elite quarterback in the postseason. You wanted to see him move in the pocket and extend plays to create his own touchdowns. You wanted to stop hearing about the excuses for why Joe Flacco hasn't pulled it off yet.
There are no excuses anymore. Flacco went out there and did it. He out played Tom Brady, in the box score and on the football field. He had Patriots fans shaking in their shoes. He did everything that the Tyrod Taylor fanbase said he couldn't do, and we lost.
It has been asked many times in jest if you would rather see Flacco have a 4000-yard season and lose in the first round, or an ugly 3600-yard season with a chance at the Super Bowl. That question was painfully answered today. For all of the rational fans who were happy to see Flacco play decently but not dazzlingly in a win, here is your painful rebuttal to the fans who wondered after those wins why Flacco couldn't do more.
It never mattered. All that ever mattered was the win. And today, the Patriots got that win. We didn't. And for once, you can't possibly find a way to blame Flacco. Before today, you didn't want to hear excuses for why Flacco's numbers weren't better. After today, I don't want to hear any excuses for why the Patriots are competing for a Super Bowl.
What a terrible way to prove a quarterback's worth to his team.
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Further irony
Cam Cameron will most likely be fired after calling what was easily his best game of the year.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Cameron's playcalling in that next to last possession
where he ran on third and three for a three yard loss and then Flacco threw an incomplete 4th down pass….was HORRENDOUS!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 22, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
all things considered, it was a perfect game from Cam though. As Jackmca said
calling what was easily his best game of theyearcareer with Baltimore.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta be fair
Cameron really played his best chess match.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Absolutely. I think he deserves all the bashing, but he called a fantastic game that should have won. Give props to that, then fire him.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
That draw call was hideous
Cam trying to be cute instead of doing the right thing.
Always has to be the smartest guy on the field.
by RavensfaninTX on Jan 23, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that whole statement is a perfect way to summarize Cam’s career here in Baltimore and probably just his whole career. He’s like Billick, but with less success.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think
Cam has been more successful than Billick, albeit with better weapons (at least in Baltimore).
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
easily more successful than Billick
but he did have stability at QB.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I don’t know about that. Billick was able to get us to the SuperBowl and I believe he had us as a better offense the year when he fired Fassel.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah McNair’s QB rating skyrocketed once Billick took control of the offense. But still, he screwed the pooch in that playoff game. That was on him as much as anybody.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
but in the grand scheme of things… Billick was a better OC than Cam is. I’m excited to see who we bring in. I was thinking about Haley today and what he might be able to bring to the table. But I’ve also heard he’s a bit of a dick and tends to cause problems with players.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Haley is a major hot-head. I don’t think he’s a fit.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Is he not returning to AZ?
Also, I read an interesting article that described what Pioli instilled in KC. What I perceived was a big brother system that nearly rivals Orwell’s 1984.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
who cares
I’m pretty sure a guy who’s well known for his “SNAP THE F_____G BALL BRODIE” .gif is not really the guy for us. Not Ozzie, Bisciotti, nor Harbaugh would consider him seriously.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Link to the .gif?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Because that just sounds hilarious.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I looked for a solid 20 minutes and i can’t find it anymore.
It was absolutely hilarious. You just see him mouthing the words and there’s subtitles, but you don’t even need the subtitles because Haley is so effusively articulate.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I'm quite sad now.
But thanks for the description. That’ll have to do.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
don't give up
keep looking for it. If I do finally find it, i’ll put it up.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Ahh, thats what I heard. He seemed like the type of guy that might be able to take what we have and turn it into something
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I am Not
Thrilled with any of those four choices. I figure there has got to be at least 8 – 10 hot QB coaches/assistants on Ozzie’s radar.
May want to consider hiring Zorn as the OC. Would not violate NFL rules as it would be a promotion. And I believe since Zorn would be just responsible for the offense, he would excel. Part of the problem with Zorn in DC was that he may have been overwhelmed by all that is required of a head coach. And I think Zorn is a West Coast disciple…
Zorn got the best year(s) out of Jason Campbell; Hasselback had his best years with Zorn; Joe’s best season to date was with Zorn. Zorn got a rating of 83.5 and 84.1 out of Charlie Batch’s first two seasons in Detroit (career rating 77.8). And even though Batch’s performance dropped considerable in 2000, he still got him to 8 – 7 as a starter on a pretty horrid Lions team.
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by vlad755 on Jan 23, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
May want to consider hiring Zorn as the OC
I hope not now if they want to bring him back as the qb coach thats fine. The ravens need a offensive coodinator that is dedicated to the run game but is also creative when it comes to the passing game.
I figure there has got to be at least 8 – 10 hot QB coaches/assistants on Ozzie’s radar
I dont think the ravens should bank on hiring a qb coach to be a offensive coodinator if he hasn’t been a offensive coodinator before in his career . I’m not saying its wont work if they do but why not go after one of the top two offensive coodinators(Mike Sherman & Hue Jackson) whom have proving careers of building/creating good offenses.
The ravens need a offensive coodinator that is dedicated to the run game but is also creative when it comes to the passing game.
So naturally, we’d stick with the Air Coryell system.
Wait, what?
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
So naturally, we’d stick with the Air Coryell system.
Wait, what?
Since when a offense that dedicated to the run game but creative in the passing game equals air corydell? The ravens bread and butter has always been the run game and I dont think they should get a offensive coodinator that will escape from that.
you missed my point
you’ve been keenly in favor of sticking with the Air Coryell system, and I’m saying there’s a lot of other alternatives.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
… there’s a lot of other alternatives.
It’s mostly just various versions of the West Coast offense, the Run and Gun (what Peyton Manning and Jim Kelly in Buffalo ran), and the ground and pound (which is definitely falling out of favor). There are a lot of flavors available, but relatively few unifying theories.
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What people need to realize
is that a catch-phrase like “west coast” or “Run and gun” doesn’t necessarily mean that those philosophies abandon the run. They might lend themselves to different situational play calling, but I can guarantee you any OC worth his salt will come in here cooking up new ways to get Ray Rice the football.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Keep in mind Jazz that a lot of guys that were OCs in their time are either coming off being fired as a HC or sucked as an OC and were fired. Bringing someone up you can get someone good that a lot of people may not know about.
I trust Ozzie and Harbaugh to do their thing and find someone that will do a great job and fit our system.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Those four choice are all Air Coryell choices. I’m not sure why you think it’s so suicidal to change philosophies altogether.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
IT WORKED A DECADE AGO! Why would you want to change from that?
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
If You
Remember there was a lot of hand-wringing when Nolan switched us from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense. At the time, there was a lot of concern. In hindsight, it was absolutely the right thing to do. In fairness, the Ravens probably run one of the most hybrid of defenses, but at its base, it is a 3-4.
Why not bring in an OC that will switch us from a 1970’s unimaginative Air Coryell system to an updated, uptempo West Coast? I really like what New England has done the later half of this season, including the playoffs. Why not try to Flacco-ize/Raven-ize that and apply it?
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by vlad755 on Jan 24, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This x100. There isn’t a reason in the world why we couldn’t update our Os scheme. We have some great skill position players around Joe now that are all pretty versatile, especially when your pivot point includes one of the most well rounded backs in the leauge. Credit where credit is due, Cam called one of the best games I’ve ever seen him call…..but those few call that are just absolutley dumb outweighs the good now IMO, like the draw play. At least he finally rolled Joe out to buy him time though.
Cams game plan sometimes reminds me of someone who stubs their toe, then says “hey, that hurt….I wonder if it’ll hurt when I do it…..now! Damn, still hurts….one more time….”
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by WestminsterRaven on Jan 24, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
This is what I have been calling for all year long. We have the perfect set of personnel for it and its all fairly simple stuff that relies on execution more than complex set ups. I think we could easily set this up over the offseason and get everyone ready to roll by the first game.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I really like what New England has done the later half of this season, including the playoffs. Why not try to Flacco-ize/Raven-ize that and apply it?
Im not sure if thats the ravens style or Flacco style.The type offense the patriots run requires a quick release from a quarterback now Flacco doesnt have very slow release when he passes but I’m not sure if a offense like brady is in fits him.
Flacco does have a quick release. That last game showed what happens when Flacco is given routes that require a quicker release. He might not be lightning quick like Brady, but we have the personnel to run this system currently and Flacco could do very well in it with his accuracy and velocity.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco does have a quick release.
Im not sure if he can do that consistently but if the ravens decide to commit to a west coast type offense then we will see how things develop
We havent seen what he can do with that. The system we have now is either all downfield throws or screens that don’t require a quick release. The only chance we’ve seen where Flacco had to get rid of the ball quickly was this game and he excelled at it. Given an offseason to prepare for that and an OC that can actually turn a QB into a good player and I think he comes out rocking in the first game.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’d actually go as far as to say I’d put money on us finding someone that wants to run a west coast type of system if/when we get rid of Cam. We are a perfect fit for it, it appears that we have drafted with that in mind and its not the big risk/big reward system that the Air Coryell system is so it fits perfectly with our defensive mindset.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
The Ravens’ “style” is what it is because we’ve been led to believe that’s all we can be good at.
We can definitely acquire a new style that still utilizes Ray Rice to his fullest.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Those four choice are all Air Coryell choices
not really because Mike Sherman to my knowledge has run a west coast type offense before. Also I would like to say just because a offensive coodinator goes by the air coryell offense doesnt mean it will be the same as Cam Cameron.
so suicidal to change philosophies altogether
If the ravens decide to move on from cam then I think the best idea for them to do is look for a offensive coordinator will atleast have some familairity type philosophy so they wont be totally lost but thats just my opinion.
While we bash Cam a lot, mostly people are bashing the Air Coryell system and Cam’s desire to force it down our throats. He does plenty of other stupid crap, but on my list, that is his worst offense <- Get it… offense!
Anyway, an OC is defined by what system he knows best and how they have implemented it in the past. A guy coming from New England would better understand a hybrid West Coast system than a guy like Mike Martz who ran an Air Coryell system.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure why you think everyone would be totally lost with a new system. They’ll learn it. There might be bumps in the road, but they’ll learn it. In the end, if you execute your system effectively it was worth the time to implement it.
Hell our current system has been implemented for 4 years and we still don’t execute it very well.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That
Hell our current system has been implemented for 4 years and we still don’t execute it very well.
Is the final analysis, and quite damning it is.
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Hell our current system has been implemented for 4 years and we still don’t execute it very well.
Yes its a system that the ravens been using for four years but its a system that was being learned by mostly rookies and second year players that hardly much time in their rookie on the field also vet wideouts that spent most their career under a totally different system .
Do I really have to mention the fact that most of the players progress were hurt because of the lockout.
Yeah but even last year with all of our vets we didn’t execute it very well. Yo BOY Mason even said it himself, something like “we’re just not a very good offense sometimes.”
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
mason & Heap was the only wideout that knew the system.
Boldin and Housmanzadeh were both coming from a west coast offense and none of them had blazing speed except for Stallworth who wasn’t used often.
I overall will have no problem if the ravens decide to go with a new offensive coodinator that provides a new offensive philosophy but still going after a offensive coodinator
that goes by the air corydell philosophy ( I more modified version with added adjustment to fit some of players) wouldnt be bad either
Right
So when the guy who knows the system and runs it best out of any of our wideouts says we’re not a good offense, you don’t think that’s a problem?
The bottom line is that every offense in the league has new faces every year. Yes our receivers were pretty much all new, but at the end of the day you have to look at the overall production as being the bottom line, and the bottom line was not good. It hasn’t really been good for any of Cam’s four years here.
I’d argue Cam’s best year was 2008 because he brought Flacco along masterfully. But he hasn’t developed with Flacco.
There is a reason stories have leaked about Cam not being expected back next year. Ozzie and Bisciotti see the same problems many of us do.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
So when the guy who knows the system and runs it best out of any of our wideouts says we’re not a good offense, you don’t think that’s a problem?
Well he said sometimes we are not a good offense thats big difference from saying we are a not a good offense but like i said the ravens had Housmanzdeh and Boldin both coming from a different type of offensive philosophy
There is a reason stories have leaked about Cam not being expected back next year.
There is reason stories have leaked about Cam returning so I guess its 50/50 on that one
The bottom line is that every offense in the league has new faces every year. Yes our receivers were pretty much all new, but at the end of the day you have to look at the overall production as being the bottom line
Yes but tell me what offense has been through new faces with new receivers that been through a lock out to the point that turn out to have great production.
I think the ravens overall production on offense was good it wasnt great but dont tell me you expected a consistent dynamic offense when you already knew the ravens offense had plenty of inexperienced wideouts/tighends
The Ravens offense were ranked number three in drop passes thats not a good formula to have when you want to have a consistent good offense and thats definately not cams fault.
none of them had blazing speed except for Stallworth who wasn’t used often.
Whose fault is that? Cam.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I think the ravens didnt like stallworth for some reason and I guess its the same reason why the redskin cut him .
I know stallworth was re-signed by the redskins but he only was re-signed because they had plenty of injuried wideouts.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 31, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
i’m not even sure who you are or why you keep responding to me with shit that is a total non-sequitur…
flagged, as usual.
Filing under “shit nobody has ever said to me in person and probably never will.”
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Good decision,
he just made an awful pass. Didn’t drop the ball over the LB.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 22, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Also, great catch by Spikes.
He one-handed that shit. I didn’t notice that before.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco had to have a good statistical game
without that stats, it wouldn’t have been close.
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Cmon guys really. After the team loses the game you want to start off by bashing fellow fans. Flacco showed that he is our guy but he wasn’t perfect either he wish he can have some throws back I bet.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 22, 2012 7:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
But we lost to the Pats in Foxborough,
so are we getting rid of him?
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 22, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for not taking that the wrong way.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 22, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco earned my respect. Ppl on this blog do overreact.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 22, 2012 10:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He did more than I expected him to do.
The important part will be building upon this next year.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 22, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ppl on this blog do overreact.
Some of them have gone so far as to suggest that we’ll be replacing Flacco after a loss to New England.
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by Ampallang on Jan 22, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
HA! The sad part is, we always knew Flacco had it in him and he never really needed to prove it.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
And some start acting childish and name calling like no one can have an opinion.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 22, 2012 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't see any name calling there
just someone calling someone else out on blog post that had no realistic backing whatsoever.
… no one can have an opinion.
Check my signature. I’m not going to tell you what you can or can’t write, but I’m more than happy to tell you why what you wrote is retarded. I have like three or four green posts in your Fire Flacco thread; feel free to defend yourself in response to any of those if you feel like you’ve been unjustly maligned. I imagine, though, that it’ll be much trickier after the game without being able to rely on a plea to ignorance.
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by Ampallang on Jan 23, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Did I ever say fire Flacco dumb ass. I said this could be his last game if he does horrible le and I give yaw reasoning behind my thoughts. If you pull your head out your ass, you just jumped on the fact that I was talking about him being replaced if he had a bad game. He earned my respect, and who gives a fuck about green posts. Ppl take this shit too serious. Get a life yo foreal.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 23, 2012 9:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did I ever say fire Flacco dumb ass.
Yeah, some people DO resort to name-calling.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
by jackmca on Jan 23, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He earned my respect, and who gives a fuck about green posts. Ppl take this shit too serious. Get a life yo foreal.
you right some people on here do take it too serious but it is what it is. You said Flacco earned your respect and I believe he earned a lot of respect sunday from others lol
What's a green post?
I’m colourblind so some of the shading in SBN is lost on me I think.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
This is Right
Out of “Alice’s Restaurant”: the judge, with the seeing-eye dog, is presented with “27 8×10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was”…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
You Being
Colorblind, the green doesn’t mean much to you.
During a very funny part of Arlo Guthrie’s song “Alice’s Restaurant”, he talks about how Opie, the local police chief has “27 8×10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was”, and notices the judges seeing-eye dog, but the pictures end up meaning nothing because the judge is blind…
If you ever get a chance, take a listen to “Alice’s Restaurant” by Arlo Guthrie.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Gets radio play on Thanksgiving.
Or it used to.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Still
Does.
Heard it a million times, still brings a smile to my face…
“You can get anything you want from Alice’s restaurant, ’cept for Alice…”
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I think it takes 3 recs.
Sometimes you’ll see someone respond to an especially good post with “Make it green!” They’re imploring you to rec the comment as well.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
yes, 3 gets it green
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
My fault man there is no reason for name calling. I can read between the lines, just because you don’t call some one retarded doesn’t mean that they can’t tell if you are insinuating it.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 23, 2012 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did I ever say fire Flacco dumb ass.
You have an entire post of dumb ass reasons we should replace Flacco. Maybe somebody that uses the word “yaw” other than to indicate a deviation of a ship’s direction has a more thorough grasp of the nuances of the English language than I do, but I’m pretty sure that there’s no effective difference between replacing a quarterback and firing him.
I said this could be his last game if he does horrible le and I give yaw reasoning behind my thoughts.
I’m sure “yaw” appreciated that, but an unprecedented number of people on the Beatdown (20 recs last I checked) prefered the reality I described to the fantasy you authored. Flacco could have gone 4/10 with an interception again and there would be absolutely no chance the organization would replace him.
If you pull your head out your ass, you just jumped on the fact that I was talking about him being replaced if he had a bad game.
I’m pretty sure I covered just about every point you provided. If there was any part of your post I didn’t completely refute, please let me know and I’ll attend to it at my leisure.
… who gives a fuck about green posts.
Probably not the people that never have them.
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by Ampallang on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably not the people that never have them.
Clever. I think Raven_All_Day is having some trouble with his Ampallang, for those who know what that is.
But as the man said via mobile…..
Get a life yo foreal.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I feel like an “OH SNAP” is required right now.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
INCINERATION
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
that is ridiculous! Thank you for putting it in here :)
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Fire Flacco thread
the last time i check amp his thread was called If we lose in Foxboro, is this the end of Flacco in Baltimore? Thats definately not fire flacco thread thats more of asking a question than anything .
Thanks man, someone that can read. But Flacco is our guy and we need a sure handed receiver. How many huge games have we lost by a dropped pass.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 23, 2012 10:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree a sure handed receiver would be good and I think a big physical deep threat type receiver would be the best thing for the ravens.
Imagine a 6’3" or 6’5" wideout combine with Boldin, Torrey, Pitta, and Dickson that would be a dangerous group. The ravens already have a sure handed wideout and his name is tandon doss but he hasnt seen the field often; I think he will eventually become a play maker for the ravens in the near future
Either Doss can step up or Colston and Vincent Jackson fit the mold as well.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 23, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Next year
is Dennis Pitta’s year. I’m calling it. HEAP 2.0
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I'm a little sad
that I want Pitta to be nothing like the Heap I remember.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
though you did insinuate that we should fire Flacco the entire article. When people gave reasoning for why Flacco has earned his respect well before this game, you poo-pooed it. You have to admit that sounds an awful lot like “fire Flacco” to anyone.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the title made it clear on what I meant. The meat and potatoes was just supporting why he may have been ousted if he would’ve lost. I can see where things could’ve got misconstrued.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The title was “If we lose in Foxboro, is this the end of Flacco…” Given your previous stance and your comments throughout the article and the thread, it was pretty transparent that if he had a 160 yards and 1 TD, you wouldn’t have been satisfied and would have called for his head regardless of how he has done through his career.
To me and it looks like to everyone else, you were straight up calling for Joe’s head if he does anything less than what he did. That is going to catch some flak.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yo shut the fuck up. You say statistically right. Individual statistics Flacco is a fucking bum. If it wasn’t for Ray Rice and this top defense we wouldn’t be where we are. Flacco showsis glimpses once inand a bluegood moon. All I’m saying is I think this game, Flacco’s job is on the line.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 19, 2012 9:14 AM EST via mobile
Can we say backpedal? One game where he performed very well (which he has done much more often than not in his career) and you change your tune. Don’t get insulted when you make a ridiculous post basically saying Joe needs to go and people call you out on it.
now you know what it’s like to be a browns fan; p.s. nice kick, i slept very well last night.
by cardiackids1 on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
when was the last time the Browns played in a championship game? Before the super bowl era?
I have no idea what that feels like.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Cleveland Browns history (with the caveat that they had no team for a 3 whole seasons):
SB Champs: never
NFL Champs: ’50, ’54, ’55, ’64
Conference Champs: 11, none since ’69
Division Champs: 13, 6 in the AFC Central (after ’69 again), none since ’89.
Playoff appearances: 2 since ’89, ’94 and ’02 (they had a good run in the ’80s)
All in all, the Browns have been absolute shit for most of my life. So, I’m glad he got a good night’s sleep last night. If he can get a good night after his team wins something important or after a rival’s team loses something important, maybe he’s sleep for a whole month in the last two decades.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
This would almost be like us talking trash to Steelers fans after they lost the Super Bowl last year.
Most of us were content with just being like “phew, glad we don’t have to hear about that for the rest of 2011.”
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
At least we sometimes beat the Steelers.
Ravens lead the series over the Browns 19-7, winning the last 8.
And the last 12 years of football between the Browns and Steelers has been nothing short of hilarious (22-3, one win since ’03).
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t seen any name calling on this thread.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Green'd
If there is any silver lining to this, it’s that fans should finally know who their QB is.
Wait who am I kidding. Flacco will go 14 of 27 for 0 TDs and 1INT in loss in Cincinnati next year and they’ll talk about trading up for Matt Barkley in 2013.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
It would have been better if
Cundiff’s kick would have at least been close. The kick was so bad it looked like he cracked under pressure. Also that offside penalty on Dixon killed us by putting us out of field goal range. I didn’t expect too much from Lee Evans. He tried to step and came close to being a hero. Instead he didn’t pull that pass in and protect the football. This game was so close it was damn near unbelievable.
In Retrospect
that call to tie it 3-3 instead of going for the 4th down DID come back to haunt us.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Your post is completely true
I am proud of my QB, and my whole team. Man we had the game so won!
How did Billy miss the FG? How did Lee Evans drop the winning pass? Where was the interference call? Doesnt matter.
Joe gave us the best chance to win. Its all I could have asked from him.
Formerly 88Keys
Interference call?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 22, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
the one that should have been called
Formerly 88Keys
doesn't matter
i’m not one for should have beens.
Formerly 88Keys
I'm simply interested where you saw a PI that went uncalled.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 22, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going to take a guess and say the play after “the drop.”
For the playoffs, the refs did a better than usual job at letting teams play. It almost seemed like if there was a play where a penalty could be called against the defense, they wouldn’t throw the flag.
by Mayne_Event on Jan 22, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why y'all think Flacco was so great
He missed on a bunch he should have made. Underthrew a wide-open T Smith in the first quarter for what should have been an easy TD, ended up a FG. Overthrew a wide-open T Smith by a mile later on. Missed Vonta for a TD and threw into coverage instead. On the 4th and 6 play, he ignored the out pattern that came open right in front of him, and threw cross-field over the double-coverage instead. I think the guy may need to see an eye doctor or something. Anyway, he stays next year, but Evans and Cundiff have to go.
This is why the Flacco hate will never stop
you have the luxury of going back and nitpicking a handful of plays that he didn’t make instead of focusing on every play he did make. Let’s forget that he has the other team trying to pound him into the ground every play, and he has to rely on other people in front of him to keep them from doing that. Apparently he needs to instantaneously see every person on the field, analyze what he sees as quickly as Neo sees the Matrix, and deliver a perfect pass every time, regardless if he’s being hit as he throws or not.
But we have super slow-mo replays that show everything from multiple angles, he should be able to see in live time it if we could in hindsight!
Flacco should try to play more like Brady.
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so have a 57 QB rating while throwing a bunch of INTs?
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Underthrew a wide-open T Smith in the first quarter for what should have been an easy TD,
You mean the one where he was running and couldn’t set his feet? Or the one where Smith just doesn’t see the ball as it lands 3 feet in front of him for the easy TD?
Missed Vonta for a TD and threw into coverage instead
He went for the guy in the endzone that probably should have caught the ball versus the guy that entered this season with like 1 catch his whole career and up to this point was falling down after catching passes.
You can go back and look at every play and see things that you should have done better. Fact is, he had a 61.1 completion percentage while making some difficult throws that most QBs wouldn’t have attempted let alone completed and had a few drops by his receivers that would have bumped him up to around a 70% completion percentage. He threw for over 300 yards and multiple TDs and ended the night with a 95+ QBR and the best statistical QB in this game against a ProBowl/HOF QB.
Though since you only have 4 posts total, you could just be Evan’s 15th other account.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Please don't get me started on this:
You mean the one where he was running and couldn’t set his feet?
He had plenty of time to set his feet. This is a play that routinely bothers me. On rollouts, yes you have to be aware of the defense behind you. But you also need to set your feet when you have time to do so. Prime example is in the first Cincy game (although that play action was just dirty). He set his feet and made a perfect throw. He sets his feet there, I have little doubt he hits Torrey in stride.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
He has no idea if someone is right behind him ready to crush him and he doesn’t have the time to look behind him to see. He has to make the throw and make it quick assuming he has pressure. I typically never see rollouts to deep throws, they are usually maybe 15 yards maximum. In the end, I have no problem with the relatively easy completion for big yardage.
You can’t look at anything in hindsight in your mind because we see it differently than a guy in a helmet with crowd noise during the moment. If Evans catches the TD or if Smith catches that massive deep ball that lands right in front of him for the TD, Flacco’s stats are even better and we aren’t having this discussion at all.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
He has no idea if someone is right behind him ready to crush him and he doesn’t have the time to look behind him to see. He has to make the throw and make it quick assuming he has pressure. I typically never see rollouts to deep throws, they are usually maybe 15 yards maximum. In the end, I have no problem with the relatively easy completion for big yardage.
I’d have to go back and see the play again, but my first thought was that Torrey wasn’t his first option, because I thought he’d have thrown it sooner. Joe also said after the game that he wasn’t sure he’d have enough time to set his feet and throw before the safety rolled over to Torrey, so he just let it loose so he could catch it. I have no problem with that play.
If the safety is catching Torrey on that play,
then we have another problem, and it has nothing to do with Joe.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
I said when the ball was thrown
that he needed to set his feet.
As far as not having the discussion at all, probably not today. But it’s not the first time I’ve been upset at Joe for not setting his feet, so I’m sure at some point I would have brought it up (hell, I may have brought it up already). The same way I’m going to yell about Evans dropping the TD or Torrey turning the wrong way, I’m going to yell at Joe for underthrowing a TD pass.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
I feel you, but in the grand scheme of things that was like 1 of 2 underthrown passes from Flacco all game. Then you look at a HOF QB in Brady that under or overthrew his WRs all game long. I’ll take outplaying Brady every week from our QB. Ultimately, its just nitpicking, but I do agree with you that he has got to be better about setting his feet more often especially on the rollouts.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t really been a big Flacco fan, but yesterdays game proved he can play with the best. I threw for 300 2td/1int. Lee Evans dropped a TD, Dickson dropped a 3rd down conversion. He had Wilfork in his face when he threw it downfield to Torrey. If Torrey has control of himself he might have been able to lay out for that catch…but he was all over the place twisting his body. If you want to place blame, which you really can’t put it on the O-line….Grubbs and Oher were getting owned…Wilfork was on Flacco like a greasy pork chop for most of the game. Oher was never really in the game. Flacco and the O-line seem to do a lot better when he is rolling out of the pocket. Maybe that is what is needed. After everything is said and done, there is nothing more that Flacco could have done to win that game
And how many plays did the great Tom Brady miss on?
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
The thing that sucks most about this game is that Joe did everything we could ask for. People never thought for a minute that he could not only go step for step with Brady, but actually demolish him on the stat sheet.
It sucks because last night was the type of performance where in a victory, the topic of “Flacco has arrived” is being discussed. However, since it was a loss, most of what he accomplished in honestly his best performance as a Raven will be forgotten and he will still be looked at as a QB who many think is still easily replaceable.
To all the Flacco haters, I hope you are satisfied. You finally got what you wanted, to see Flacco do well regardless of whether we win or lose. All the bitching a moaning about his sub-par performances in victories, well this just goes to show you that numbers don’t mean shit unless it is a win, something Joe has been nearly the best all time at doing.
You are the man Joe, and I am glad to have you as my QB for a very, very long time.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
The man is going to get paid off that performance. He’s earned 5 more years on this team for sure based off everything we’ve seen from his career up to this point. That game just solidified it in any reasonable fan’s mind.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking around 6 years, $72mil. He could buy Pizza Hut for everyone!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Maybe he can buy a sure-handed receiver and TE.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
that would be brutal
If the team didn’t go get him a receiver he wanted to he just employed him on his own.
It’s too soon to start thinking draft. I’m actually about to drive down to Charlotte and take in a Bobcats game… I can’t think next year yet.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
This is the time of year I wish I cared about basketball.
Time to enter the dead zone.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the time of year I wish I cared about basketball.
No other sports really compare to football. It’s always a long off season.
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State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
Sadly.
Baseball tries, but it’s not even close. I’ll have to live with finding streams to college lacrosse games, but even those don’t start until nearly March.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Read books and take in new music.
I’ve heard “The Checklist Manifesto” is a great book that pretty much anybody with a job and some degree of responsibility should read.
And for anybody who’s a fan of old Caspa & Rusko, I’ve just started listening to Mt Eden. Pretty cool.
And this 19-year old producer from North Carolina named Porter Robinson is an absolute monster.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Other solution:
become addicted to Starcraft.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I just played the first and second one when the second game came out….. the single most over-rated game series ever. It was half as good as the original Warcraft series and really was just Warcraft in space when you break it down. Its a tired game style that did nothing new and was only hyped because publishers stopped releasing games like that for a while before the first one came out.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
To each his own.
I’ve played WC3, but I really didn’t appreciate the campaign, or the multiplayer. I ended up playing a mod a lot more than anything else.
I got SC2 for cheap (50% off) because a friend of mine started playing, and a bunch of my college friends play as well. I’ve yet to play much.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
over rated = “I don’t like this game, it’s not for me”
If any game is that big, you can bet anything you have that it’s a good game, it’s just not for you.
I used to hear that shit about Halo all the time, I hear it about COD now (I’m not a fan, but …..it’s not for me).
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COD as a matter of fact is a shit game. MW3 is nothing more than downloadable content for MW2.
Take a look at BF3 and everything they improved on from BFBC2 and they completely elevated their own standards and blew gamers away. COD is just popular for people’s familiarity with it.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
thank you!
People just didn’t have a good RTS game out there so they bought into StarCraft at that time. People bought SC2 specifically because of their memories about the game, not because its a good game. There are so many other RTS out there now that blow that game away and take half of the computing power that SC2 takes.
If you are an online fanatic, then I can understand buying the game and enjoying it. But really it is over rated as a game. Same thing goes with COD…. it was the best at the time, but its nothing compared to BF3
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Gears of War > All
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Gears was unique at first, but its stalling pretty hard and resting on now overdone gameplay mechanics. Still gotta give props for starting a new type of mechanic and general theme to the industry.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
most.boring.game.ever.
You can make a sandwich and eat it in the time it takes to have one gunfight. (unless you have the magic shotgun and you’re close, of course)
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Ehh its a unique franchise that went against the grain. It was also one of the first games to really bring in the destruction aspect where the environment can be destroyed around you. It could use a better story line though.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was just talking about the multi-player. The campaigns were pretty sweet.
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oh that game really wasn’t planned for multi-player. It was such an afterthought. The campaign was good, but the story is a little goofy and amateurish, but its good to see someone not do the briefcase nuke storyline of every other shooter.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
What’s your GT?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
It could use a better story line though.
Are you kidding me?!? Gears has the best storyline of any game I have ever played.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
haha, its still a little weak in my opinion.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
GT?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
mine? My 360 just got the RROD like a month ago saddly enough.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Get that shit fixed then. Add Mr Malor
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
BF3 definitely owns the erf at the moment.
Tell me I won’t murk shit in Operation Metro with a Famas and a .45 with a tac light on it. DROPPIN FOOLS
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
You won’t murk shit.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Oh I’ll do it.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
HAha, you murkin dem bitches! :) I just did some work for a cool laser tag system that has a vest with a taser in it and an m4 as the gun. Its a really cool combat system that was built to train swat. I’ve been trying to get that system in my place so I can shoot the hell outta my employees with it. If I get the system in, I’ll try and have everyone play a good game.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
haha, I really need to do that. I’ve been working so much lately and the wife has been begging me to spend more time with her instead of working until 4AM every morning.
Maybe in the next few months I’ll get another 360 and get back online with it. I do occasionally play PC games still
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
even if that’s true about MW3, if MW2 was good, and people just wanted more of that, than MW3 is a good game.
I didn’t enjoy BF3 much either, but then again, I don’t really play anything anymore.
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No, what that means is that people are used to the series. Ultimately, no one even plays the single player any more and it ends up being a more arcade like experience, which isn’t a bad thing per-se. But given what we can do with the technology and what they do to create each game (using the same models year after year with minor tweaks on the engine), its as close as you can get to a mass production for a videogame. Its lazy and it ends up relying more on the fanboys loving the franchise than creating a good game.
Having been in the industry for some time, its well known around the other publishers and studios that COD is more or less like the Madden franchise…. sells a ton of copies because of its name not because of anything else. Every new version ends up being glorified DLC.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t really think MW’s had gotten to the Madden point yet. Sometimes companies overhaul games for the sake of overhauling them, that’s not what COD fans seem to want. As I said, i’m not a fan, and have the same criticisms you do, but if it was that bad, people would get sick of it. No matter how used to anything anyone is, if you really drop the ball, they’ll stop playing/buying your stuff
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People aren’t sick of it solely because of the multiplayer. Its that spray bullets at anything that moves mentality that 10 year olds love. They’ve grown up on that arcade style, so its impossible to get any of them to jump over to a more realistic game like BF3.
If you play both games online, 99% of COD players are under 15 or frat guys dressed like they came from the Jersey Shore. 50% of BF3 players are under 15. Its just what it is out there between those 2, but they pull in different audiences and a lot of that comes from their maturity level and what they are used to.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Probably true. As I said I didn’t get in to BF3, but it’s probably because I just don’t get in to shooting games anymore. I was always a Halo guy anyway. (except Halo 2). I just found it more fun. 4-4 on small to medium maps is what I prefer. I also liked the team play aspect as opposed to people dropping in and out of COD games, and the fact that playing as a team was actually necessary to win if you’re playing a good team.
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Yeah, Halo was always a fun game for local multiplayer for me and friends. I can kinda take COD games from an online perspective because its usually more fun to screw with those kids than anything else, but it does suck to have them be so stat driven. No one really plays as a team anymore on any of these games, people just want as many single kills as they can get and it tends to ruin things.
Me and a group of friends would do well in College with counterstrike as a team. That was the last game that really pushed a good team aspect aside from TF2
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Another great game for PC gamers to look at is coming from a good friend of mine. Its called Primal Carnage and its looking great.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Personally
Am a big fan of “The Witcher” series. But, unfortunately, with The Witcher, it is is fairly linear story and once you complete it, there is nothing else. Would have liked the ability to go off into user-created worlds like a lot of other games have.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I’ve heard its insanely long though.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I Don't Play
A lot of games, so I do not have much to compare it to. The length seems about right to me. But then I can play a game for only an hour or two, put it down for a day or two or a week or two, and then come back to it.
You do have to be careful as because of decisions you make, you can break some quests, without realizing at the time you have broken quests…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I got out, but I was an environment modeler.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Why did you get out? Did you work on any games I’d know about?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Yeah, I did some cool stuff for a few major publishers but mostly freelance at the time. The biggest and latest game with the smallest thing was Halo 3 where I only did a model for a generator :) I’ve worked on a few RTS games as well as a fighting game. Most of it was a few years ago.
I got out because a lot of the people in the industry were asshats and whenever you brought something cool to a co-worker, they would quickly dismiss it like they had done so much better years ago. It was all an attitude problem from pretty much everyone. I guess I could liken it to the kid that would always show you his toys but never let you touch them. I just couldn’t take having to talk to people all day that were like that and refused to help out ever.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
yes, absolutely. All good at what they do, but just asshats.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm interested to hear
your opinion of The Elder Scrolls.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Great series of games. Graphically a little challenged, but they are putting so much into 1 game you really can’t complain about that. They are notoriously buggy, but again you can’t really complain when its such a huge game.
I actually got a chance to work with the lead guy on Oblivion when we were working on another game. Cool guys over there too.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I've yet to get to Skyrim.
I bought Oblivion (for 360) this past August. I had a lot of trouble with Morrowind on the original Xbox, and I heard it was a lot better on the PC. However, I’ve yet to have very much trouble at all with Oblivion in terms of bugs. I was pleasantly surprised. I never finished Morrowind because I’d generally lose my save file within a few hours when my Xbox glitched (10 year old me was not ready to save multiple files yet).
Good to hear they’re cool guys. Those are a pretty unique (and awesome) set of games.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Morrowind was a glitchy game for Xbox. Those have always been developed for PC first and ported out to consoles so you’ll always get more bugs on the console versions. Oblivion was great and Skyrim was pretty awesome too.
as they have gone along, they are starting to push away from their D&D roots and more into a hack and slash style of gameplay. If you remember Morrowind, it was all stat based and really deep in that regard. Fast forward to Skyrim and you can see that stats are still important, but its not nearly as in depth as in previous games.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wait for Diablo 3 to be released!
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
Coming out on xbox also!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Did not know that.
Probably will still get the PC version, but interesting.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Whaat, you can’t play diablo 3 on xbox!!
THE WHOLE POINT OF DIABLO is the satisfaction wrought from clicking your mouse 1000000000 times in order to level ur char, duh!
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by rsty on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1213046p1.html
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Think Diablo 3 is PC-only.
Where did you hear they were porting this?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1213046p1.html
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Waiting
excitedly.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
hockey's really good, really it is
The fights are a sideshow..but think about this: it’s a sport where a defender can lay a huge hit, then becomes QB, who passes it to a forward who can either dangle his way past players (as would a RB) or if the pass gets behind a defender, he becomes like a WR, outrunning chasing defenders towards the goal.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
I've tried hockey.
The giant cocktease that is the Washington Capitals has scared me off. I still enjoy the game, but I can’t follow it enough. I don’t live or die at the results (probably because there are so many games). I’ll probably still catch a game here or then, and when the playoffs come, I’ll get pissed at the Caps when they burn out early. Maybe they’ll miss them this year so I can just be disappointed from the start.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
As with the NBA, I'm a casual hockey fan
I follow mostly players I like, but I have no passion for a home team, and that makes it hard to have a passion about the league. I would love to have a home team in either of those leagues.
I'll put it this way.
If the choice comes down to anything other than football, hockey is probably going to win that matchup (March Madness has a good chance, but not NCAABB in general). But it’s more likely that I’ll watch nothing rather than search for a hockey stream at this point.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, watching hockey on stream sucks, because it’s hard to follow the play, all the more for a novice fan I would imagine – heck, watching football on streams sucked for me, and I’m a total noob football fan.
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I'm not that much of a novice.
I’ve had an interest in hockey for a long time, but it was never available to me (no cable), and I didn’t have a team. I can generally follow the play well enough. Mostly though, if I’m going to stream something, I’m going to find something else. Whereas Sunday’s are for football, and football only, I have no such relationship with any other sport.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
My wrong assumption then!
In any case, in canada we have Hockey night in Canada, which is our saturday weekly game that is aired on the nat’l network CBC (like your pbs). No need for cable to receive!
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There ARE a lot of games…I wish there were fewer, but alas.
Capitols have a good team though, consider yourself lucky to be able to watch ovechkin, semin, and that swedish kid Backstrom night in and night out. Look out for the Quebecker player Perrault, he seems to be turning it on lately.
My canadiens are stinking it up this season, what a disaster…but this is the wrong forum for me to be complaining about it I GUESS.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
Ovechkin's awesome to watch.
A little less so recently, but he was amazing and is still damn good. I hate Semin. Can’t stand him. He can shoot the lights out when he wants, but it’s rare. Backstrom is probably the best player on the team.
I know of Perrault, scrappy 4th liner in the past (not sure where he’s playing now).
Apologies about the Canadiens. Still haven’t forgiven them for 2 years ago though.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
What an awesome series
Playoff hockey is really the pinnacle of the NHL…that was a hell of a series. You guys have hamrlik now though, who played a big part in shutting down Ovechkin’s line.
Perreault JUST got a hattrick vs. Boston! Anyone who helps defeat boston is good in my books. I think he’s getting more minutes as a result of ovechkin’s suspension…from the looks of it he’s now a 3rd liner.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
No doubt Halak played some of the best hockey I've seen.
Although shutting down that offense seems to be more of a team thing. I don’t think I saw all of the games, but I think I watched 4 of them. The 6-5 OT win was obviously my favorite.
And OV running into Hal Gill and forcing him to knock the puck into his own net, although later called off, is probably my favorite goal ever.
Yeah, Perrault owned the other night. First NHL hat trick I think.
Ugh, I’m worried OV’s going to become the new Pronger soon. Dropping production and many questionable hits will soon lead to auto 5 game suspensions from the Wheel of Justice. Just remember NFL fans, as bad as Goodell seems with the punishments, at least they’re somewhat consistent.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 26, 2012 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, listen to him, NHL has a LOT to learn from the nfl.
That series was sick, though I can’t really remember particular games – so drunk. Montreal becomes a crazy place energy-wise during the playoffs, you sort of have to experience it. I imagine bmore is similar during playoffs.
OV needs to work on his skillset – Montreal (esp Spacek who was playing right D) was the first team to figure out how to shut down ovechkin, how to counter his cut-in-screen-shot that was so lethal. Since then he hasn’t been as explosively effective (though still very good).
That said, I don’t think the NHL will suspend him into oblivion – they need him as a star player for marketing and entertainment value. Most nhl players have such dull personalities that players like ovechkin (and montreal’s subban!) are very much needed.
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I think that sounds like a very reasonable number for all parties involved. That would be one quick ass negotiation if we could just put that on the table and walk away.
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Like you said man,
he’s here to stay regardless of however much haterade powder people sprinkle in their drinking water.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Once again,
not only have we won a playoff game in all 4 years of the Flacco/Harbaugh era, but we’ve only ever lost to the AFC Champions every single year.
Man we’re so friggin close it burns my eyeballs.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Did we watch the same game?
Just reading some of these comments I wonder if we all saw the same game? Far be it from me, and I dislike doing this unless it is completely warranted; and in this case, it is for me. I don’t care about name calling…just consider this scenario:
Home Cookin’:
After listening to the alleged experts, 5 out of 7 predicted a Patriots victory whilst watching some of the most bombastic calls in NFL history it became my opinion that come hell or high water the Ravens were not getting out of Foxboro with a win. If the 44 men on the field couldn’t beat the Ravens (offense, defense, special teams) then the seven referees could certainly put in their input.
One response I read stated how well the game was officiated and yes, the officials allowed the teams play until it became obvious that the Ravens were a force to be reckoned with. Take this into account from a professionally international certified soccer referee:
Throwing a game or seeing to it that one teams wins over another is not a hard thing to do. Not to mention 2 interceptions the Ravens made that somehow…didn’t count or therefore alter the game. Take a look at the first one, and if you think that is not a legal hit on Welker (within 5 yards; moreover, did it have anything to do with the outcome of the play? Nope. To call a penalty on that contact was preposterous!
Or maybe when a man gets tackled in the open field and an ensuing fumble rolls upwards for a first down the ball is placed where the player fumbled it.
“The Drop” my arsed!! How about “The Catch”; I have always thought (or knew) and I’m sure Brady will back me up on this one—that when a player in the end zone either passes the goal line thus breaking the “plane” so to speak as Brady did earlier in the game versus Evans without question receiving the ball from Flacco in the end zone — on every touchdown in the NFL gets reviewed except when in Foxborough when it means the game.
The booth review never existed which is a travesty to a team who’d already had two interceptions taken away, a non-advancing fumble brought back, and a touchdown pass, by the way someone remind me….after that catch was made the situation is a dead ball because we had a reception across the “invisible plane” of the end zone; therefore, if there was a penalty it should have been called against the safety for a personal foul.
I’m done; please consider what ever call made and the impact it has on an entire game.
What are you talking about?
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
And now for the real response (not that you'll read it).
The illegal contact on Webb was probably more of a pass interference. I thought the ball was in the air. Fact is, Webb got beat and arm-barred Welker. Clear as day. Whether or not it had an impact on the interception is irrelevant.
The second interception ‘taken away’ only happened because we jumped offside.
The Boldin forward fumble was ruled correctly. I’d figure Baltimore fans would know that more than any other team, except perhaps the Raiders.
The catch was close. As far as I’ve gathered, the rule states that you have to be able to make a football move, which Evans never had the chance to do because he allowed the ball to be knocked out. How about completing the catch and running out of the end zone to do a Lambeau Leap into a crowd of angry and stunned Pats fans? Then, there’s no doubt that it’s a catch.
I’m done. Please consider the offense getting set up at the Pats’ 20 yard line and failing to punch it in for 6. Please consider the absolutely horrid start to the game from the offense. Please consider the fact that we had 3 chances to come back from 23-20 and failed on all three.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 23, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Please consider the fact that we had 3 chances to come back from 23-20 and failed on all three.
Hurts bad.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
I watched the behind the bench for the game yesterday.
I’m not sure anything hurt worse than not scoring off the fumble. Torrey had just scored, we had a shit ton of momentum, and it became fucking 3 points.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 24, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah you have to maximize every opportunity against a championship caliber team.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
The Shoulda Won Title
Don’t bring us down!! We’re celebrating the ‘shoulda’ win game & title we won Sunday. We know we’re the best team & we only lose when the conspirators are at work. We shoulda won that game. We should win the SB.
if..fill in the blank,, we woulda won!!! We shoulda won!! We really did win because we played better!!
by WhereHaveYouGoneJohnnyU on Jan 25, 2012 6:02 AM EST reply actions
Didn’t you used to post a shit ton of annoying stuff on the Sun boards?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
Yes, he did. Then couldn’t afford 75 cents a month or whatever the hell it was. Sun sucks.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
that’s why in 5 years, they won’t exist.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, he did.
Awesome. We get to put up with his lame bullshit until Bruce bans him. Can’t wait.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
Banhammer!
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 25, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
so....forever?
in fairness to Bruce, if half of us had the ability to ban people, there would be about 7 people here haha
… there would be about 7 people here haha
Ah, the good old days.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
HAHA! We need a neutral ground or system where a certain number of flags get you kicked automatically. Bruce is a little too light with the banning or really any discipline on the site. It leads to a lot of trolls coming on and feeling welcome and sticking around.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
You have to understand the position he’s in though.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Oh I do and I usually stick up for him in that regard. But when you have a thread with 923 posts and 200 of them are from an obvious troll, it hurts things and kills dialogue. When you have a guy like Evan lurking around the site picking fights for a year and apparently creating alt accounts because he likes to be a douche at times, you start pushing off real members of the site.
Keep in mind that there are absolutely no shortage of Ravens sites out there, all with varying degrees of discussion and debate on them. You don’t have a niche product here by any means, so the site relies on its core members not getting alienated and not pushing away new members with stupid activity. You end up damaging both of those audiences when you let stupid stuff go on far too long and it ends up looking bad when people assume its all being left alone because of the hits or laziness.
Just talk to other members of the SBNation that are from other blogs. They have no shortage of members and hits and they bad asshats that are just there to troll all the time. So while I agree that people need to be disciplined a little better around here, I also say that it needs to be tempered down or at least have a policy in place so it’s clear what happens. Without doing that, people are free to go around and cause havoc on the site without any repercussions.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 26, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
… he likes to be a douche at times …
That’s a hugely conservative estimate.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
Hey now, I’m trying to be nice around here…. but yeah you’re right
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
;-)
What are you afraid of?? Someone will hurt your feelings because they have a different opinion than you?
by WhereHaveYouGoneJohnnyU on Jan 27, 2012 5:38 AM EST up reply actions
Please, please share your opinion.
I’d love to see the green wave that rips your ideas apart (although I doubt Amp will waste any time on you). I’d be more worried about your feelings.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just don’t be an idiot fan and blame conspiracies around here and people generally leave you alone. If you play that whole “The Pats only won because they cheat” BS, you get ridiculed.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 27, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, the irony!!
What’s sad is that there are too many in Baltimore that are happy with their favorite player playing well while losing. The current “at least Joe played well” talk is pathetic. Baltimore is getting accustomed to coming up short & accepting the ‘bitter defeats’ the Ravens are dealing in crucial games. Losing seems expected in these situations & thus excused. The true irony is that the Ravens walk that swagger & predict a SB every year, but when it comes time to prove themselves, & walk the walk, they stumble!! & find yet another way to lose.
The Raven Way!!
by WhereHaveYouGoneJohnnyU on Jan 25, 2012 6:11 AM EST reply actions
What’s sad is that there are too many in Baltimore that are happy with their favorite player playing well while losing. The current "at least Joe played well" talk is pathetic.
You, sir, are in the front-running for 2012’s “Totally Missed the Point” of the year award.
"And, don’t get me started on Joe Flacco," Simms continued. "Did the experts watch the game? Joe didn’t miss a throw, not one. I watched every play. Every time he had the opportunity, he hit the guy. And, he made some moves so he could complete other throws. Are these people watching? What was Joe supposed to do with Texans in his face? Throw it up and hope? Sometimes a sack is a good thing. The object is to win the game. You did."
Tell him what he’s won Jackmca!
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
An Autographed
Copy of Cam’s playbook (and hopefully Cam’s only copy…)
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
by vlad755 on Jan 25, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So we need his address to give to Cam so he can live on his couch next season.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
OP didn't need my help
point is obvious. I’ll give my opinion in my own way, try to keep up ;-)
by WhereHaveYouGoneJohnnyU on Jan 27, 2012 5:41 AM EST up reply actions
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