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In the playoffs, only the "W" matters, no matter how pretty or ugly it is. The Ravens 20 - 13 squeaker counts just as much as the Patriots 45 - 10 white- washing. Do the Saints get anything for gamely almost overcoming five turnovers on the road? A slightly higher draft pick than their opponent, and that is about it. But at the end of the day, they are in the same boat as the once 15-1 Packers.
That looked like a Steelers game. The pass rush was relentless, Flacco (more on him) was getting harassed and beat up. Not sure if Houston was that good or we were that bad. How can you be, plus four in the turnover department and yet only win by seven at home?
The Good
We won. We will play in the AFC Championship for the second time in four years.
The four turnovers our defense and special teams were able to corral. Further, Lardarius. Is he "elite"? Has he earned the label "shut down" yet and if not, what more does he need to do? Ed Reed, where have you been? Had a great game -one pick and could have had the hat trick. Great to see ya back!
Cundiff. Two absolutely money field goals. He may have had an off year, but in the windy conditions yesterday, he made up for it and give the guy huge props for what he did.
Lee Evans with a beautiful one-handed grab. If that is what we get to look forward to next year when he comes back 100% healthy, wow... And Boldin looks to be clicking on all cylinders again. And a special shout-out to Kris Wilson with an absolutely incredible grab for his first reception as a Raven and his first TD, ever? Well, since 2009 at least...
Our "opportunistic" offense that was able to cash in many of those turnovers for points. More on the offense in a bit.
Discipline. Not a single turnover or penalty by the Ravens. I do not think I have ever seen that before. Which makes the seven point victory all the more maddening. Again, given what happened, how do you only squeak by?
Joe Flacco. His stats were not Brady-esque, except for one. And that would be the win column. Most wins in the first four regular seasons of any quarterback in the history of the NFL, at least one playoff victory in each of his first four seasons -again nobody else can say that. Yeah, Ben had five playoff victories his first four years also, one of which was the Big One, and Sanchez has also gone to two AFC championship games but Ben is other-worldly and there is really no comparison between Flacco and Sanchez.
Flacco may have had that sack-strip, but other than that, he played a great game against a great defense even though his stats did not show it. Two TD's with no picks is nothing to sneeze at in a playoff game. And couple of the throws he made, especially the one to Lee Evans, one great deep ball that Torrey dropped, and the one or two to Boldin - there aren't three other QB's in the league who can make those throws. In my humble opinion, Flacco was most definitely a steadying influence. Even though his offense wasn't doing jack for him, he kept plugging and fighting. He didn't get down, he didn't get frustrated and make a silly mistake, he patiently waited for his few opportunities and exploited them -that is called leadership.
The Bad
The drops. There were at least four that I remembered and probably one or two more -unacceptable. And the lack of separation from the receivers. At least three of the sacks were coverage sacks. That is ridiculous.
Further, Dickson is becoming a bit of a liability. He may be the more athletic of the two TE's and may have the ability to break a tackle or two, but his blocking is not that great and his hands are not that great (at least two drops in critical third down situations) so what does that leave? Coming into next year, we may see a more traditional 1TE offensive set with Pitta, with the occasional "diesel" package.
The offensive line. No run blocking, no pass blocking, but hey, no false starts or holding, so at least they can hang their hat on that. They got pushed, bullied and punk'd around all day. That will get us killed at Foxboro next week - like the Tebow lead Broncos killed.
The Ugly
The D-Line. No run penetration, shaky, at best, edge and gap discipline, and zippy pass rush. One time the defense was able to get pressure on rookie TJ Yates, which forced him to throw Lardarius's first interception. That was it. All other of Yates interceptions were of his own choosing. In fact, in many ways, Yates was the Ravens MVP.
Cam. The past couple of weeks, he did okay. But now I have one question for Mr. Cameroon: what in the blue blazes were you thinking??? Two minutes and change left, up by four, second down and Houston has already burned one time out. You run it again, they have to burn their second timeout. You run it on third down, they burn their final timeout. And if Houston is lucky, they get the ball back and are able to run one offensive play prior to the two minute warning, but have zero timeouts the rest of the way to drive for a touchdown. Even if Rice gets stuffed and losses a few yards each run and you have to punt it, you are still up by four- you are forcing a rookie to drive the length of the field with less than two minutes in Baltimore. And the game would have ended with Reed's pick. Instead, Houston got two cracks at it. And on the second attempt Reed gets injured. If Reed is out next week or is hampered, that is on Cam. Cam recklessly put the Ravens defense back out there when they had no need to-! If I am Stevie B and I see my All-Galaxy FS go down, needlessly, I would be firing Cam on the spot if it wouldn't totally FUBAR (beyond where it already is) the offense. Coming on the heels of the Pittsburgh playoff game last year, Cam calling two passes in a row is inexcusable. At times I have given Cam credit when he deserved it. But this was a bridge too far. I don't see how the Ravens could fire him if they win it all, but if Cam continues to be this stubborn and trying to be so clever by a half, I don't see how they don't fire Cam no matter what.
After nineteen weeks it has come down to the two best teams in the AFC, as it should. Let's face it, the AFC was always going to be a three horse race once Peyton was out: Baltimore, New England and Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh, through no fault of their own, fell by the wayside due to injuries so that just leaves Baltimore and New England. Houston gave a valiant effort not just in the playoffs, but over the course of the season, despite their own major injuries. They may be the future of the AFC, but not this year.
We said it before the second Pittsburgh game, then before the San Fran game, then before the last game of the regular season in Cincy -this would be the toughest challenge for the Ravens this year. Well, we get to say it again this week as going to New England for the AFC Championship game will be, by far, the toughest challenge the Ravens will have faced this year.
Brady is playing like a man possessed. He was the yang to Tebow's ying, and I think Brady earned another nickname: "The Incredible Hulk" because you do not want to get Brady angry. You wouldn't like him when he is angry. Brady played like the most ticked off person since Martin Luther nailed that treatise on the wooden door... Gee, ya think Brady noticed all the pub Tebow was getting? Think Brady was a little tired of hearing how great the Brees led offense was? Think Brady *doesn't* like being in the spotlight and the center of attention? No, nope and Ngata. Brady made a statement in his smack down of the Broncos. The Golden Boy will not be trifled with. The Golden Boy will not be ignored.
The Ravens have their work cut out for them -big time. The upfront effort and lack of push from both sides of the ball will not fly in New England. That same display gets us not a 45 - 10 whooping, but a 38 - 13 thumping. The O-line looked old and slow against Houston. The D-line looked about as stout Charles Nelson Reilly. The D-line will have to get to Brady. Period. The defense needs to shut down Gronkowski and hopefully Reed can pull some of his magic against the deep stuff. Suggs needs to do some visualization exercises- the kind where he visualizes Brady as Big Ben. The Patriots are playing phenomenal football right now -better than any of the other three teams left and in order to slow down the Patriots offense, the Ravens are going to have to play defense like it is 2000. Anything less, and we get killed. I think it is within our capacity, but we will have absolutely zero margin for error next Sunday.
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What is with that thing, anyways?
Did he lose a bet?
It is what it is
It's basically a playoff beard
Flacco, Pitta (TE), and Koch (P) are all participants. Joe tried to recruit others, but didn’t succeed.
It's Almost As Bad
As the handlebar mustache the new owner of the Jags has.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Brady cut it,
much to the joy of some fans and the chagrin of others.
It is what it is
How is Pitta anyways?
Do you think he’s an effective receiving-TE?
It is what it is
There's another post right now on the home page
with a Pitta/Dickson debate going on. He’s as sure-handed as they come, and has a great relationship with Flacco.
Actually....
Do the Saints get anything for gamely almost overcoming five turnovers on the road? A slightly higher draft pick than their opponent, and that is about it.
The Pats own their 1st rounder. Was Mark Ingram worth it for them? Nope. Not yet.
It’s worth noting that Bill Belichick, a Football Life, reairs tonight on NFL network. The Ravens feature prominently in it.
It is what it is
I Saw
Bits and pieces of it before. Did not know ol’ Bill was from Annapolis, and if he wasn’t in football, he would be in lacrosse (saw the lacrosse goal in the background at his house also).
Forgot about that about the Saints. Is there a first round pick, besides ours, that Belichick doesn’t own…?
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Yeah, it was enlightening. I bring it up mostly because it ends
with the Pats hosting the Ravens in the playoffs two years ago.
Nah, he’s got 2 1st, 2 2nd, and then a 3rd rounder for this year. I expect him to trade one or two of those picks for 2013 picks. There’s always a GM out there willing to deal. Saints for instance for the 28th overall in 2011 gave the Pats their 2nd round pick and their 2012 1st rounder. Think the Pats now got the 27th overall and whatever their own place ends up being, so one of those will probably get dealt for lower picks and next year. It’s smart.
It is what it is
Are you guys ever going to use those picks? jk lol seems like you guys always have the most picks. Is there ever a player he’s really wanted and tried to trade up for him or anything?
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Mayo I think,
but usually he trades down. Before the new CBA, which means 1st rounders are now cheaper contract-wise than before, Belichick emphasized value in the draft. His goal was finding the best player available who’s worth the pick. Part of that was because he knew there was only so many stars that could ever be on the team at once. Part of it is also gambling. Who knows how a team involved in a trade will do next year and where they’ll end up in the drafting order?
It is what it is
He traded down for Mayo.
He had the pick right after the jets in 08. He traded down to the 10th (gave it to the saints who got sedrick ellis) and with the 10th pick he got Mayo.
I think thats how it went.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Bill's Dad
Steve Belichick was an assistant coach/scout for Navy for many years. If you listen to Bill talk you can hear that he grew up in Annapolis.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
Very well written and worth the time to read the whole thing. Lots of great points being made….especially my favorite one about Joe.
I’m sure lots of people want to call Joe out for not having the flashy numbers, or “backing up his talk about wanting more credit for Ws”. But you said it perfectly, Joe got knocked down, pummeled, smacked and got up every time to fight through the hits, shitty pass protection, dropped balls and Cam’s bullshit to do enough to win the game. You want credit Joe? You deserve it. Had a great, solid game despite the rest of our offenses shortcomings.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, great piece.
Like I said on another thread today Joe is a winner.period.
God couldn’t possibly agree more about cam. Flacco deserves credit and he will get a lot more if we get a good o coordinator. I seriously hate cam
by Ravens4Life on Jan 16, 2012 8:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If you guys lose to the Pats, we are gonna be soooo pissed off
We really wanted a piece of them.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
I was so disgusted with our line play
Where are McPhee and Ngata? What in the world was up with Suggs? What happened to Redding giving us any spark there? If we don’t man up on the D-line we will lose in Foxborough and the team will have failed.
best tackling team in the NFL, most physical and just dominates people. When we walk out of the tunnel and out of that locker room, we expect to shut people out and play great defense - Ravens DC Chuck Pagano
Texans got a sick OLine.
Suggs I think got double-teamed/chipped a lot. Haven’t rewatched yet.
It is what it is
I'm not worried...
I think we match up better with NE than we did with Houston…Brady is a great QB with a good OL, but I think Houston had a better line and a much better run game and WR’s. Plus a sick defense. That was just a tough team all around. NE doesn’t have a run game or a stout defense, and their playmakers are their TE’s, not their WR’s. If we can establish a good pass rush we won’t have a problem winning this game.
Incase you forgot,
Wes Welker is a WR, not a TE.
It is what it is
by Middlesex on Jan 16, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Farmiliarize yourself with L. Webb. He’s been our best corner and seems to most of us like he’ll match up well with Welker. Had 5 INTs this season and 2 this past weekend while his main duties were Andre. He was rated by most people, “experts” and fans alike, as the 2nd best cover corner behind Revis. Had anyone known his name, he’d be a first team All Pro.
Someone here can probably tell you better how many pass deflections he’s had, but I also don’t think he’s allowed a TD at all this year.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Know all about him.
Right now Webb is playing CB better than just about anyone but Revis.
It is what it is
thing about Webb
is he will allow some yards, but he makes up for it with his ball-hawking ability. Also, for a pretty small corner, he’s a great tackler. He breaks down and wraps up.
I’d say he’s like a tackling version of Asante Samuel.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Let’s talk matchups. Webb on welker… Williams on Gronk or Branch? Smith & Gorrer? Where will Reed post up? Bracket or over the top?
Who can run with Torrey or muscle Boldin? Lee Evans? Rice, Dickson Pitta?
by Evan Skev on Jan 16, 2012 10:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
First question on Williams is how tall is he?
No one has been able to cover Gronk all season except for Darrelle Revis. He usually demands chipping at the line and/or a double-team which opens things up for either TE/WR/FB Aaron Hernandez or 2nd WR Deion Branch. Gronk and/or Hernandez will sometimes line up wide so Welker can do his thing from the slot. Pats like the 2TE/2WR/1RB set but have also been showing more 3-TE looks lately, with rookie Marcus Cannon coming in at RT and rookie RT/power-TE Nate Solder coming in as the 3rd TE. Ochocinco, Edelman, and Underwood switch around at 3rd WR but the workload comes from the big three; Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker.
It is what it is
For Gronk, I think I’d prefer Jimmy Smith. He’s our rookie CB. He has great size and strength and like you said, you need to get physical with a guy like Gronk. Where Jimmy lacks is technique and awareness, which is natural for a CB. I’m curious to see what we do on your TEs. You guys are a special offense, nothing like we see too often, so it’ll be interesting. I have a feeling we’ll be willing to concede some yards and underneath stuff to prevent any home run balls.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Oops. Natural for a rookie CB*. That’s how that should read.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
He'll get demolished.
Gronk’s playing at an elite level, not even close to a rookie level. One mistake in technique leads to Gronk breaking the tackle and charging dozens of yards down the field. Many of Welker’s, Gronk’s, and Hernandez’s yards are coming after the catch. Ravens are a good tackling team so we’ll see, but this group is going to be a challenge for Lewis and Reed up the middle.
It is what it is
Statistically, we’re great at stopping TEs. Gronkendez, as I’ve heard them called, are the best though. Ray Lewis looked surprisingly quick this weekend chasing guys down and 99.9% of the time he’ll make the tackle. I know we’re going to give up yards. Just can’t allow the big plays and keep everything in front.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Who is usaully the big TE stopper?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Pollard lays the wood. Reed cherry picks and is going to bait Marsha into a bad throw. This D swarms to the ball.
Williams and Smith are 6’2’’ 220#
Plenty of talent and a great DC
Really good to know.
Seems like the toughest defensive matchup we’ll face all year. This will be exciting. =D
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
it’s really been an ensemble. We don’t have one guy who shuts down TEs, and our LBs aren’t great in coverage, but we’ve stopped TE’s pretty well this year all the same
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I'm telling you,
who lines up on Gronk will depend where Gronk lines up. We are not about to put Jimmy Smith next to Ray lewis to cover Gronk, as much as Brady and Bellicheck might love that.
I expect Webb to shadow Welker… problem semi-solved there.
But let Williams and Smith cover whoever is out wide. This is what Ed Reed is for, folks, these adjustments pre-snap are what make him invaluable.
When Gronk is inside, I’d just try to cloud cover him with a LB and a Safety. I know he’s a monster but you can’t overcommit or you give the game away.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Don't forget about Hernandez and Woodhead though.
Those guys will be there too to catch passes.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Woodhead
Will be lucky if Cody doesn’t consume him…
“Git in mah belly…”
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Cody wll be covering woodhead when he goes out to catch? 0.o
But yeah, Woody is a good runner too…. but I meant in the pass. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
But yeah.... Hope Cody doesn't eat him....
How has Cody been with you guys by the way? I have been following him through the draft. At first he was considered over weight, and gets tired very easily. How is he now?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Cody Has
Been stellar “eating up” blockers and is an above average run stuffer. Solid if not spectacular is probably apt.
Yeah, that’s where I was going: Danny is so small, that if he doesn’t wash the BBQ sauce off his hands before the game, Cody will be like, “Ohh, h’orderves… yum yum yum”
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Cody
He plays on about half the snaps, which is a vast improvement on what a lot of people thought he would be able to do for us coming out of ’Bama.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
As for the secondary,
that’s been a mystery all season. Due to injuries and shifting personnel there has been no continuity all year. Until the last game of the regular season when SS Patirck Chung finally came back. James Ihedigbo(former NYJ STer) is horrible in coverage and is lately working at FS only on obvious running plays. On obvious passing-downs, CB(and DB-captain) Devin McCourty is being shifted to FS and rookie Sterling Moore coming in at CB. They made some good plays against Fitzgerald in Week 17 and then Tebow last Saturday, but I’m not sold that they’ve finally turned it on in the backfield. Kyle Arrington led the league in interceptions but he appears to be falling out of favor as he allowed more of Tebow’s passes than anyone else in that game.
It is what it is
Wasn’t Edelman playing CB at one point? You guys have really been thin in the secondary. Has BB been “experimenting” with DBs all year? Like different formations, combos, schemes? It seems like he’s been trying to find a system that’ll fit the personnel. Am I wrong on this?
For our sake, I just hope your D line doesn’t play like it did against DEN. Haha. I think that was the best I’d seen your D play as a whole all year.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
They have had Kyle Arrington, Devin McCourty(had an injury), Ras-i Dowling(IR), Leigh Bodden(released), Phillip Adams(released), Antwuan Molden, Julian Edelman, and Sterling Moore playng CB.
At safety, they’ve had Patrick Chung(injuries all season), Josh Barret(IR),Sergio Brown, James Ihedigbo, Nate Jones, Sterling Moore, Ross Ventrone(released for the millionth time), and Devin McCourty(moved to Safety in Week 17).
It is what it is
Damn. All that shifting around would drive me nuts, but you got where you are with it so it worked to some degree.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't forget....
Welker is a good rout runner, but he’s not a deep threat…and we’ve faced better throughout the season.
Keep in mind though
That welker can run routes 20 yards deep. Brady has connected to welker 20+ yards on occasion. He is best working underneath though while Gronk and Herndo go deep and/or underneath.
But welker can run mid-deepish routes. Just not streaks.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Everybody just calls him a slot corner. he is more than that though. His route running and quickness and vision allow him to go 20 yards dow a field and get open.
If the route allows him to go that deep…
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
No doubt....
I didn’t say he cant get open, I’m just saying that our corners match up well with their WR’s, including Welker. I also think our D-line will play better against their O-line, and their running game. All around we match up better with them than we did against Houston.
Yeah. This game is going to be great. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
Don't blame cam
for those 2 pass plays. Harbs said after the game joe audibled to both plays.
CLASS IS OVERRATED
What the hell is going on out here
no bueno
Joe needs to stop showing people how amazing he is and just play the damn game.
I really didn’t like those comments this week, and Ray Lewis basically hinted that he didn’t either.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Ravens website
CLASS IS OVERRATED
What the hell is going on out here
by Ravensfan89 on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't mind
its really the 1st tiime he spoke out against criticsm
CLASS IS OVERRATED
What the hell is going on out here
by Ravensfan89 on Jan 16, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Did any of you actually listen to the whole quote?
I heard Joe’s entire answer to the question. His tone was slightly playful, not angry, bitter or arrogant. Everyone thinks that Joe’s head has gotten too big all of a sudden. I think this is far from the case, but if you only see the quote in print (out of context, I might add) it comes off completely differently. I don’t think Joe cares as much about the credit he does or does not get as is made out to be the case in the media, especially because of the way this whole exchange continues to be reported. I don’t mean to say that he doesn’t care at all, just that this whole thing is being overblown. One playful exchange with the media does not an arrogant monster make. While I agree that Joe doesn’t get as much credit as he deserves, I don’t get the impression that Joe thinks he deserves more than he actually does.
Michael Oher is so fast off the ball that he only appears to be off-sides.
Jimmy Smith said he “knew” he couldn’t advance the fumble he recovered so he just fell on it. Is he correct?
Yes.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wow
smart play. I figured he just took the low-risk option and made sure he fell on it.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah really smart play by the rookie. Jimmy hasn’t got as much love lately around here, but he’s actually looked lights out since the Chargers game. That was a good experience for him and he has been solid since. He played some great coverage last game including the Ed Reed Pick where he had Andre completely covered underneath.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I think rookies and young players sometimes need to have a really bad game before they can have a really good one.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah nothing Ray,Ed or the coaches say or do can teach you how to handle a situation like the Chargers game. There is no better learning experience than what happened that night and I’m sure Jimmy learned more that game than he has the entire season. It seems like he paid attention because he’s looked really good since.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
IMO
I think that while the points of this post are valid, there is NO comparing this game to the New England game that we are about to undertake.
We just played a very good texans team with a great defense, and not too bad of an offense either. Yes, the drops were bad and the game would have been different if they weren’t made, but New England hasn’t beat a winning team all year. Brady and Gronk will be tough, but we can do it!
Have faith,
GO RAVENS!
Formerly 88Keys
I haven’t seen people.stressing…other than the usual naysayers. I may be the most optimistic… I expect a Ravens win and purchased nonrefundable flights to indy. Most others seem to be quietly confident or hopeful. If the coaches make the right decisions and the boys execute, it’s Baltimore in indy. If not, still a successful season and great foundation
by Evan Skev on Jan 17, 2012 2:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's going to go one of two ways
1. Typical Ravens win, nail biter, comes down to stopping Marsha on the last drive. or….
2. It’s over by half time. D scheme does not work Bilicheat outsmarts Pagano and we get dinked and dunked to death and are down by three touchdowns…game over.
I think we will see option 1 – with a sloppy, bruising, typical Ravens 23-20 win.
by RavensfaninTX on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah man… It will be close and fun to watch. I feel like the Ravens have more playmakers
by Evan Skev on Jan 17, 2012 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
vlad
Nice write-up.
I wouldn’t characterize Joe Flacco’s effort this past Sunday as great though – if Flacco was great vs. the Texans I’d hate to see him when he wasn’t on. If 14 of 27 for 176 qualifies as greatness in Baltimore football circles, I feel sorry for you guys – wait’ll you see Tom Brady throw the football !!
Baltimore was presented with two gifts by Houston and the Ravens took advantage of them but, Flacco’s greatness was never on display. Hell, he almost missed Wilson, alone in the endzone, Flacco throwing the ball behind him on what… a one yard toss ? The Boldin TD was an O.K. pass – a big ten-yarder I think it was.
Fact is – after the kindness shown by the Texans, the Ravens offense was awful – just 3 points over the final 45 minutes of that football game. No quarterback performance can be described as great when that particular QB can only muster 3 points over the final 3 quarters… no quarterback. I’m sorry – Joe Flacco didn’t lose the game for Baltimore but, that certainly doesn’t make him great (your words) in the Houston win.
yeah but flacco's was even lower
Definitely worth backing off the “great” description of Flacco’s effort. But I’m happy with the win.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Joe played with a hip thigh contusion that stretched from his hip flexor to his knee and only attempted 10 passes
Exactly
Every time I see someone on the TV this week they talk about his 4-10 performance.
Geebus, the guy could barley walk.
by RavensfaninTX on Jan 18, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Brady had
2 broken ribs, and a broken finger on his throwing hand. everyone is hurting this time of year.
jack
Agreed… gritty win – nothing great about it, appropriate praise might be: he didn’t throw a pick.
I will tell you – I watched that game on Sunday and saw a tougher, more motivated, better skilled football team in the Houston Texans – I thought: I do not want this Houston team coming to Foxborough… I don’t.
Let’s be honest with each other – the dumb play by the punt returner (Jacoby Jones) and a throw that never should have been attempted (a rookie quarterback will make these kinds of mistakes) – were the two events that determined the outcome of this game. …very difficult to claim that Baltimore won the game, more apt description would be that Houston lost it.
The real question is: Are the Ravens still capable of shutting down the Patriot offense (Brady & Co.) ?? The 2008 Divisional match-up was a great win for the Ravens but, the N.E. team that lost that football game is long gone. There are but three, Patriot offensive starters that remain & but two remaining starters on the defensive side of the ball. I’m sure the Ravens have undergone changes as well. This much is apparent – the ‘11 New England offense would run circles around the ’08 edition – there is simply no comparison. I’m pretty certain the Patriots will score and score often (Baltimore has played poorly all season when they meet passing-oriented teams on the road) and the Ravens must respond in-kind, this means that Joe Flacco will have to become more than a game manager. We know that coach Belichick will do everything he can to take away the rushing of Ray Rice (I know… easier said than done but, this Patriots D can play very well vs the run when they want to) – the goal being: force Flacco into throwing- situations outside of his comfort level. We’ll learn on Sunday, just what Joe Flacco can do.
by profootballfan on Jan 18, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
When you go up 17-3 in the first quarter
against a rookie QB in your own stadium, it’s going to change how you play the game. Or, it will if your name is Cam Cameron. So, damn straight I’m going to claim we won that game. Houston can go back and watch the rest of the games thinking they should have won, just like they thought last time. 0 for 2 on the season doesn’t exactly make me believe them.
It was the ‘09 wild card btw. I’m inclined to think that this absurd notion that your team will score at will is simply that. I think we’ll do a pretty damn good job at stopping Gronk and Hernandez, the best of the season. Will we win? Not so sure. But it will be close.
I will, however, admit that the chances of our winning improve dramatically if Flacco plays well. This is his big chance to prove to everyone he can win games, especially those fans in Baltimore that don’t think he can. Like you say, we’ll see just what he can do.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry but there are a few things I disagree with you on. First, the “gifts” you claim that were given to BAL. I’ll admit that the Jones fumble was an anomaly and was a lucky one. But, did you even watch Webb? He baited Yates on both of his INTs and was jumping routes. He made huge plays, and that’s what playmakers do. They make somthing happen to sway the game. As for Reed’s INT, he came up big when the team needed it most. Again, that’s just what playmakers do. Our gameplan was to dare Yates to beat us, and he couldn’t. We rolled the dice and let Foster get his yards, but knew that Yates was going to have to find Andre and we did what we had to do to take him away by dropping extra into coverage. To discredit great plays by those guys in my view is an oversight.
Second, on another thread you said that the Pats would score at least 34 pts. Which, isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but I wouldn’t put any money on that. The only defense that’s similar to what the Pats have seen this year was the Steelers, and they lost that game. Sure, the Ravens lost to the Chargers, that pass first mentality you talked about. Their receivers are freaks of nature. And for as big our corners are, they’re bigger and faster. I’d say that SDs receivers are a tougher challenge than what they’ll face in Foxboro. Just my opinion.
Lastly, Joe has proven to win shoot outs. The Ravens offense is capable of posting totals in the high 20s low 30s. We tend to go conservative when we get a lead and let the defense bat cleanup. If we had a coordinator with some balls, we’d be a damn scary team. We just came out of a game where we played the #2 overall D, swept the division havering to play the #1 overall defense twice. And now the Pats defense, which I’m sorry to say isn’t near some of the defenses we’ve faced this year. I think you’re making a few too many assumptions without peeking behind the curtain. Not trying or wanting to be a dick. Just my point of view.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
very difficult to claim that Baltimore won the game, more apt description would be that Houston lost it.
I don’t have to claim that we won the game, it’s a fact. I could care less how it happened. Two evenly matched teams and it came down to mistakes. It’s not a coincidence that the more experienced team came out on top of the turnover battle.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
jack
Ravens did win the game but, the way that the Ravens scored their two TD’s was a function of the poor play exihibed by the Texans, not the superior play of the Ravens. That’s all I’m saying.
Dumb move by the punt returner – and a way underthrown ball by the rookie QB basically handed Baltimore its only two touchdowns of the game. The longest drive of the day for the Joe Flacco-led Raven offense ? 59 yards… 59 yards !! Holy crap, that’s terrible.
by profootballfan on Jan 20, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
you talk about QB rating
Like it’s a respectable stat. Kerry Collins had the same rating as Matt Schaub in the Colts 30 point or so week 1 loss. just saying…
Fact is – after the kindness shown by the Texans, the Ravens offense was awful – just 3 points over the final 45 minutes of that football game. No quarterback performance can be described as great when that particular QB can only muster 3 points over the final 3 quarters… no quarterback. I’m sorry – Joe Flacco didn’t lose the game for Baltimore but, that certainly doesn’t make him great (your words) in the Houston win.
I don’t disagree with this. There has been sort of a “good Joe” and a “bad Joe” routine going on this year. Good Joe swept the Steelers and had everything to do with both of those wins. 3 TDs in the first, and an amazing game-winning drive on the road in the 2nd scoring with 0:08 on the clock. Bad Joe didn’t get a first down until the 3rd quarter of the Jaguars game.
A lot—if not most—of that falls on Cameron, in my opinion. I think Flacco works much better in an offense that allows him to get the ball out of his hands faster than ours does. And Cameron is completely addicted to the deep ball, which wasted so many downs against Houston.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
This. Most would agree Joe has definitely been up and down this year, but at the same time there’s only so much you can do with the scheme. If pressure is getting in there fast and he’s having to wait for the deep routes to develop what do you really do? We definitely would benefit from having more of a short to mid passing game and then hitting them with Torrey over the top. It would really help Joe develop a rhythm. It’s hard to develop a rhythm when we run the ball a lot and then take all these deep shots. How can you expect any QB to really get in the flow of the game? Not only would it make our offense more consistent and effective, but we actually may hit more of those deep balls for TD’s rather than incomplete passes or Joe having to drop it in there perfectly in order for it to be complete.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
This Ravens team HAS to run the ball
with Ray Rice getting at least 20 carries. In games where he doesn’t, we lose. Its just a statistical fact. In games where he does, we are practically undefeated. These are just facts.
Formerly 88Keys
Don't feel sorry for us.
We saw Tom Brady throw in 2009 playoffs. He went 23 for 42, 54.8%, 49.1 QB rating, 154 yds,
3.7 yds / a, 2 TDs and 4 turnovers (3 ints and a fumble). Good defense, like the #2 rated Texans that the Ravens saw last week, can do that to ANY QB.
We’ll see how Joe Flacco does against the second worst passing defense OF ALL TIME.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
El
Wait ’til you see Tom Brady throw it to Welker, Gronkowski & Hernandez, all missing from the ’09 Divisional game.
We will see how Joe Flacco throws it on Sunday – in my opinion, he’ll have to connect on a bunch of passes or else the Ravens struggle. I could be wrong but, I say this game will be contested (and won) through the air.
by profootballfan on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
If we play it correctly,
Welker won’t ever be open. And if anyone can handle Gronk & Hernandez, I think it’s us. But please put Hernandez at RB for us. I’m sure we’d love to get a few good licks on him.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ravens fans like to quote 2009...
But Pats fans aren’t quoting the other four he’s won, one which was played more recently than the 2009 edition. That was probably one of the worst Patriots games I’ve ever seen played in my life, against anyone. Give credit to the Ravens, but man, you must not be watching much football if you think we’re going to gift-wrap you 4 possessions in one quarter.
Can I Scream?
I don't think anybody
expected it then either. Not that I expect it this week either. But one or two turnovers throughout the game would be nice.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
He Did "Great"
Because despite him not having a running game to support him, zippy pass protection – five sacks? Are you kidding me? We sack Brady five times on Sunday and he will be curled up in a fetal position in Gisele’s lap sobbing, “Make it stop”. Flacco performed remarkably well- no turnovers, extended what plays he could, only dropped the ball once, overall made good decisions, and took advantage of what few opportunities he had against the Texans.
How is that not great? Nobody, I mean nobody would have put up 400 yards in the face of that pass rush. He could have just “heaved it”, but then he would have had three picks…
He gutted out that performance against the Texans (a top 3 defense I’ll add) and came away with the W -that is great.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
vlad
All I can say is – Baltimore fans expect a hell of a lot less out of their starting quarterback than New England fans. do.
by profootballfan on Jan 18, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
That is probably because you can't expect anything at all
from your defense. Your team’s success is completely dependent on your QB and receiving corps. So far that continues to work for you. However, I think a lack of emphasis on defense will one day bite you in the a$$. I hope that day is Sunday.
Michael Oher is so fast off the ball that he only appears to be off-sides.
On the other hand
Your team’s success is completely dependent on your defense. You could argue that is a greater formula for success more oftentimes than not, but while Brady could pull the team out of an early 21-0 or 17-0 hole, I don’t think the Ravens have enough firepower on offense to overcome a deficit like that if the defense lays an egg one or two games.
Can I Scream?
They've done it.
Although it wasn’t the defense laying an egg, they came back from 21 down (after the offense put themselves down 21 or so). So, you keep thinking they can’t, I’ll think they can, and we’ll all see what happens Sunday. In any case, I think this game will be close, and all this talk about extremes will be irrelevant.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Of course we’re dependent on our Defense, our highest paid guys are all on that side of the ball. Ray, Suggs, Ngata, Reed. You pay guys on offense.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
True
Although Wilfork and Mayo just recently got some substantial coin.
Of course, since those are easily the two most consistent playmakers on our defense, it’s no surprise they’d get rewarded. The Pats are still working out the kinks to get a 2001-2007 era defense with this revolving-door secondary, but I think we’re close. Speaks volumes to a defense like the Ravens that finds themselves atop the league rankings every single year.
Can I Scream?
Are you kidding me?
We sack Brady five times on Sunday and he will be curled up in a fetal position in Gisele’s lap sobbing, "Make it stop".
You can criticize the guy all you want. Hell, give him all the licks you want for his Uggs endorsements and GQ spreads. But you’re really out of touch if you don’t think he’s one of the toughest QBs in the league on game day.
Do you really not watch the guy play? Or are you just trying to get a rise out of people? Brady takes plenty of hits because every single opposing team knows the only way to beat him is to get him on his ass.
Can I Scream?
Well
Let’s be fair- Brady has missed a whole season due to injury. Flacco, while he should have sat out the infamous playoff game in Foxboro two years ago due to injury, hasn’t missed a snap, regular season or playoffs. In terms of toughness, I think Flacco might edge out Brady. Even Big Ben can’t stay upright… For as many shots as you claim Brady takes, Flacco takes much worse.
And Flacco never complains about it. It is rare you see Flacco ask for flag (he does on occasion, like all good QB’s). Outside of Boston the only thing more legendary than Brady’s Uggs is his propensity to complain to refs because a defender sneezed on him… And if he is not asking for a roughing call, he is pointing down field for an illegal contact/PI flag…
Yes, I am making fun, taking shots, but this is a Ravens board and Brady is the enemy.
And I stand by my original statement- if we sack Brady five times, I like our chances a lot.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Because Defenders
Never, ever call for flags! Wide receivers don’t either. Have you watched an NBA game recently? We have it pretty good in the NFL, all things considered. Of course you’re going to want to see a flag if it extends a drive or gives you any real advantage. It doesn’t mean the refs ever honor those requests.
A torn ACL is pretty debilitating, and something many a football player—regardless of the position—has lost many a season upon. Sometimes, they even claim careers. It’s not like he had a bruised ankle or anything.
I’d like your chances too if you sack Brady five times. Anything significantly less and I think Baltimore’s done for. That really goes for any team, though.
Can I Scream?
Not going to lie,
I’ve seen Brady get far more flags than any other player, and I don’t see Brady very often.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 18, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, from my couch he looks too complain more than other QBs. I may be a little biased though.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
Bias pretty much goes without saying,
especially when discussing the franchise that has won more Superbowls recently than any other team and their ‘golden boy’ QB.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 19, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, according to a stat box on ESPN . . .
Joe did play great against the Texans. However, that is relative to every other QB that has played against them this season. Of all of them, Joe was the most effective.
Michael Oher is so fast off the ball that he only appears to be off-sides.
by Raveness on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Raveness
This I will admit – Joe played much better in week 6 vs. the Texans, than he did last weekend… much better. Joe’s performance this past Sunday was not, by any normal rating basis, anything close to great.
Drew Brees had a pretty good game vs Houston – 31 of 44 for 320 yards – 2 TD’s & 2 picks – far and away the best offense the Texans faced all year. The game was at New Orleans though, a big advantage for the Saints.
I Give Up
The “Maddening” of fans has take over. Everybody expects “great” QB play to be 300+ yards, 3TD’s, regardless of the W or L. Where would you rather be today- at home on the coach with Brees and Rodgers, or on the road to Fopxboro with Joe?
For the record I, and many Flacco fans here have not argued that Flacco is elite (am not saying anyone stated that -just making a point). In fact, many of us have made cogent arguments that Flacco is in the top 6 – 10 category. I say this because guess what? A top 6 – 10 QB gives you the kind of gutsy, gritty performance in the face of a relentless pass rush with no help from his O-line in either pass blocking or creating a push for the running game that results in a win. I will take that every time.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
by vlad755 on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'll agree with you here
Any team that bases an offense around a running game is going to have less-than-gaudy stats when it comes to its QB position. There are many ways to win a football game and you play to your strengths. Tom Brady is a stellar QB, so you’d be remiss in not allowing him to throw 30+ times a game.
The same goes for Ray Rice. He’s one of the best at his position. He’s going to get the touches, because he’s the strength and he’s the playmaker. Flacco doesn’t need elite numbers to have a “good” game because the offensive scheme doesn’t call for it.
Can I Scream?
This
We can agree on.
Against y’all, Rice needs at least 20+ carries and five receptions. Rice running/catching = more ToP which equals less Brady…
We don’t have to have Brady, but can we have your OC, please? Besides Brady being Brady, I really like how you guys as of late have gone to the hurry-up spread offense. Which surprise plays to Brady strengths… gee an OC who plays to his QB’s strengths, what a novel concept…. I have been beating that drum for Flacco, but Cam, well, just peruse some of the other threads here on the Beatdown…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
vlad
Everybody expects a great QB to be able to lead his team… to even carry his team if the occassion calls for it – this Flacco cannot do. Flacco can hand the ball off just fine and he can make a throw every now and then but, great he ain’t. The Ravens win despite the ho-hum play of their quarterback – no other way to put it.
by profootballfan on Jan 18, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
That last sentence discredits most anything you have to say about the Ravens, ‘cause clearly, if you watched enough Ravens football, you would know that statement to be false.
The opening game against Pitt. The second meeting where he drove down field and won the game. He actually did that last year too, in Pitt both times. Didn’t the Pats play Pitt this year?
There are times when Joe puts the game on his back and is a direct reason we won. You not knowing that discredits everything you say.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 18, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Simply erroneous.
You didn’t watch him this year.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Which one?
can we have your OC, please?
We have two at the moment … sort of.
Rams and Broncos fans were elated to let Josh McDaniels go. They hated the guy in every sense of the word. I always thought he was a great fit for the Patriots; moreso than the current soon-to-be-Penn State HC Bill O’Brien.
Can I Scream?
Odd, another overused comment. Improperly used as well, but that goes without saying.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

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