Ravens Hold On, Top Texans 20-13
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 15, 2012 5:07 PM EST
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PrintIn a game that appeared to be all going the Baltimore Ravens' way in the first quarter, it ended up taking almost every second of the full sixty minutes in order to secure the AFC Divisional Playoff victory, as the Ravens held on to top the Houston Texans, 20-13.
Up 17-3 in the first quarter, many might have thought this game was virtually over, but for whatever reason, the Ravens offense faltered against a very tough Texans defense, which smothered RB Ray Rice and swarmed QB Joe Flacco most of the game. However, two early TD passes by Flacco plus a Ravens defense that followed their mantra of "bend but don't break," shut out the Texans in the second half.
With the offense unable to even get a half yard that would have secured the victory much earlier, it was the defense that rose to the occasion, with three interceptions of Houston QB T.J. Yates, including two by CB Lardarius Webb. Ed Reed had the other pick, missed at least one more and played his heart out so hard that he needed to be literally carried from the field at the end of the game.
Played played his typical solid game and showed why Ravens fans felt he was snubbed in Pro Bowl voting. A few clutch throws, catches and runs made the difference and while there were definitely missed opportunities in the game for the Ravens, they were playing one of the top defenses in the league, which came here to play and they showed up big-time.
Winning the turnover battle proved to be the difference in the game, as a huge fumble off of an inexplicable decision to field a punt deep in Texans territory led to Baltimore's first TD. With two of the league's top defenses, it was apparent that whoever won the turnover battle would win the game, and that is how it played out.
Before anyone decides to complain over the play-calling, execution and missed opportunities, remember what type of defense the Ravens were facing today, compared to the one they will be facing next Sunday afternoon in the New England Patriots. At the same time, the Patriots will be a much different offense to defend against, posing a completely different challenge for this defense.
The result of the game was a win, which puts the Baltimore Ravens in a position that 28 other teams would gladly trade places with us for. To that end, the Ravens are in the AFC Championship Game for the second time in four years and have an excellent chance to reach the Super Bowl. Enjoy the week, feel free to pick apart the game, but I for one will take this game for what is was - a win.
GO RAVENS!!!
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I’ve been pretty detached all season but now that Baltimore is one win away from playing the big game in Indy I can’t help but feel a little emotional. I really want this next game to go Baltimore’s way ….. Badly
by Evan Skev on Jan 15, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Where is the love for Webb
He is rapidly becoming the shutdown corner we have not had since CMac in his prime
That second pick was awesome
Definetly the MVP of the game.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 15, 2012 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shutdown? No Andre got 100+ yards today.
Elite, opportunistic, and absolutely robbed of a all-pro spot? Hell yeah.
Enough did.
I don’t like throwing shutdown around for every great CB. It isn’t Webb’s style. Webb doesn’t shut players down. He contains them and makes big plays to make up for the yardage he gives up. He gets a lot of tackles and lots of PD/Ints. He isn’t a Revis type where he isn’t thrown at.
Actually most came with Andre being covered by a LB or a nickle back while we were in a zone coverage. Once that stuff stopped and Webb was 1 on 1 again, Andre was a non factor.
Keep in mind that he is still Andre Johnson. You aren’t going to completely lock down a top 3 WR in the game.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 15, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
It’s really a pity that the Pro Bowl is based on name recognition, cause with Webb’s play and stats, he’d be a shoe in if anyone outside Balt knee his name. Not enough can be said about that kid. He has exceeded every expectation I ever had for him and I’m looking forward to the days where people don’t want to/can’t throw to Webb and Jimmy. He and Suggs are my MVPs for the year. Without either of them, our D isn’t nearly as good.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 15, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention how he bounced back from injury
This is only his 2nd year totally healthy no? 3rd maybe?
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Last year he was healthy but unless you're Wes Welker you still need a year to really get back from that kind of injury.
Last year he was healthy but unless you’re Wes Welker you still need a year to really get back from that kind of injury. This year he is 100% for the first time and tearing it up.
Absolutely agree
Webbie is awesome. I hate to see him returning punts. We can’t afford to get him hurt again.
Congrats on the Win
Texans fan here…great game and hope you guys beat the crap out of the pats and put Brady on his fancy arse
We’re pretty proud of our team this year and how they played today. Much respect to you guys.
You guys are going to be good for a while. Keep your guys healthy and you will atleast be in the tournament every year.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 15, 2012 5:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You will be fighting for it all again
I think shaab just got a job holding a clip board vfor you all. look forward to seeing you next time we meet it shall be interesting
That one turned into quite a nail biter.
Fortunately the defense bailed out the offense. Hopefully next week there’s a little more stability on the offensive and defensive lines. Brady won’t make the same mistakes that Yates did, but the Pats don’t have an RB or D line like the Texans do. And that gives me peace of mind. Until then, time to savor the victory. Go Ravens! (And Terps too!)
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Oh and hats off to Houston.
They played an incredible game. TO’s were the difference in this one but the Texans were the better team as a whole IMO. See you guys next season.
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Houston is for sure a tough bunch. Shut our offense out for 3 quarters. Gotta wonder what would have been with shaub. Yikes!!
by lsg2131 on Jan 15, 2012 6:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pats averaged 4.9 yards per rush vs. Denver's D,
and rushed 30 times.
It is what it is
by Middlesex on Jan 15, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So they rushed it with success against the Broncos?
They should be proud of themselves. I still stand by what I said.
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Bengal fan
nice win today…Your D showed heart and Suggs is well….Suggs…I swear he might be the best I have ever seen at LB…The offense was a little shaky and I would be concerned going against Brady..but your team has made the plays it had to…..Tough f_____g team…..
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
Flacco played commendably...
considering how poorly the O-line did. Hopefully they can fix that one because we’ll need to be able to put up points next week.
Agreed. He will prob get dogged for tgat game. 14 of 27. Started out 4 of 12 but finished 10 of 15 and should have been a little better if not.for a couple drops.
by lsg2131 on Jan 15, 2012 6:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
people always seem to overlook how much he gets pummeled back there and how the WRs don’t get separation on Cam’s crazy route tree.
I know it. Flacco had time on a lot of plays but no one could get open. Dickson is dropping too much lately for how.much gets thrown his way. PITTA!
by lsg2131 on Jan 15, 2012 6:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In defense of Dickson
He was wide open coming across the middle and Joe throws it behind him. He was lucky to stop and reach back to get his hands on it. That play cost us from sustaining a drive.
It was a little behind, but it was a ball that should be caught.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Agreed.
Ball should be thrown better, but TEs need to catch those passes.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
That's easy for us to say
When you are running a crossing route you expect the QB to lead you with the pass.
I should also expect to catch pretty much anything that I can get my hands on.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean by biggest?
He dropped a third down conversion yesterday, and I believe he dropped two against the Browns. He is beginning to develop a habit of not showing up in extremely important situations.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Dropping a bomb on 1st or 2nd down
is a lot less important than dropping a crossing pattern on 3rd down. At least to me.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
this
i mentioned this on the open letters thread.
Dickson’s drops seem to be very memorable.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
That's what got my brain cogs to do a couple of extra turns.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I agreed with you.
However, Dickson is a TE. The ball hit his hands. It was within his body frame. Despite the pass being behind him, he still needs to catch it. I promise you Pitta catches that.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 17, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed and it wasn’t like it was way behind him. It was just a little behind and honestly is a ball that there is no excuse for dropping.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
But I'll agree that Joe needs to throw that pass in front of him.
The thing is, it looked to me like he did that in the Cleveland game, and Dickson still dropped it (I was there, so I’m unsure of how good the pass was).
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 17, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Boldin didn't catch the ball off target in the playoff game last year
And he has had more experience than Dickson. Maybe they should start practicing making acrobatic catches like Evans made.
And if you look,
we were all pretty pissed off at Q for that one. As well as Housh for his 4th down drop.
I don’t need them to make acrobatic catches, I need them to catch the ball when it hits them in the damn hands.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 18, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I Think
Y’all are forgetting that Leach? Rice? ran into Joe on that play which a) knocked the timing of the play off and b) messed up Joe’s footwork. I think Joe basically shot put the ball into the end zone.
So props to everybody all the way around for making lemonade out of potentially really bad lemons…
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Aaron Rodgers QB
26-46, 264 yds
2 TDs, 1 INT
Rodgers played against a worse defense than Flacco played against and did just as well (except the INT). I say it might not have been an MVP performance, but it was more than enough to get the win and he put us in pretty good position most of the day with his arm. Had people not dropped the ball (cough… Torrey), the game and his stats would have been a bit better.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 15, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm interested to see Filmstudy's breakdown of the game.
Specifically, the grades for the tackles as well as the breakdown of ATS vs non-ATS.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
as a texans fan
i want to congratulate the ravens on a well fought victory.
that being said, i will leave you guys with 2 or 3, possibly 4 (or maybe 5)thoughts and observations.
1) i have mad respect for everyone on the ravens- especially ed reed, webb and ray lewis. however, anquain boldin lost all respect today. that bitch move he pulled on jason allen slamming his head into the ground? yeah, classless and uncalled for. i hope he gets ripped in the media for that. allen was all over him and a flag should have been thrown on allen for defensive holding, but boldin took it a step to far. bad form.
2) did terrell suggs play? did ray rice play? seems as though rickey williams had a better day than rice did. i think foster proved why he is, objectively, the better RB. if rice is great, then foster is outrageously great.
3) i really do hope the ravens win it all this year because this could be the last year they have a legitimate shot with ray lewis and ed reed. i want them to win it once more. but the defense looked gased in the 3rd Q. outside of creating some nice (and well timed i might add) turnovers, they didnt play that well of a game. luckily, you face the patriots, and i think the ravens pass D is quickly becoming one of the best at a time when the once vaunted run D is on the decline. so it more than makes up for it, and honestly, i think the ravens can win next week- tom brady wont go wild on that pass D.
4) i will concede to jack on this one- TJ made some rookie mistakes. i wont chalk it up to home field advantage (he made some stupid mistakes like those at home too, so i dont think that had anything to do with it) but i will chalk it up to being a rookie trying to put too much on his plate and win the game.
5) say what you will, but the ravens did not look that good outside of the turnovers. take away the 14 points on turnovers, and the texans win that game. this is where the playoff experience came in to play.
so i say well done baltimore ravens. it was a hell of a ride for us, and even though i know most of you wont admit it, i know the texans scared the shit out of you guys for the better part of 3 quarters. believe me when i say we’ll be back next year. lets just hope we meet again in the post season in the afc championship game and you guys are defending a super bowl championship.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
i should mention this
kareem jackson sucks. after the allen/boldin incident they pulled allen and went straight after kareem. smh. you guys want to give us jimmy smith and well give you kareem? please? pretty pretty please?
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry man. Next yr he should be close to shutdown. Expecting big things from Jimmy Smith.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 15, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry man. Next yr he should be close to shutdown. Expecting big things from Jimmy Smith.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 15, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i wondered why
he didnt get much good coverage in the off season. i know he had “issues” at colorado, but dude was an awesome prospect. i think he covered walter most of the game and he only allowed 1 catch. he couldnt have come into a better spot than baltimore thats for sure- hes got people around him on that D that wont let him screw it up. he will be damn good for the years to come for sure. but please, can we give you guys kareem jackson?
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
We'll take Kareem if you throw in JJ Watt.
I’d say the suck to awesome ratio would even out then. We’ll take the cap hit cause we’re nice people.
ha
no JJ watt is ours forever. dude was a beast today. he didnt look like a rookie out there. impressed as hell over that kid.
now i know why wade phillips was gushing over him after we drafted him. kid is something special for sure.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he is seriously impressing me lately.
Early draft pick and you expect around that but it is still rare enough for a guy to meet expectations like that.
we all expected him to be good
but he doesnt play like a rookie. he plays like a 5 year vet thats been there every year. i imagine he will cause havoc for a long time.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
He's not really a rookie anymore.
Played a whole year’s worth of games.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
What ppl didn’t know was he made a teenager decision when he was a teenager. Since doing so he has been on the straight and narrow. Ppl get so worked up because they are future NFL players but they make mistakes just like us. Doesn’t mean they should be scorned for life.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 15, 2012 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Supposedly
His interviews sucked with several coaches and he came off as immature. Good player though.
This is what I don't get
I’ve been to the Texans fan board and every post by a Ravens fan has been tediously polite and classy. That’s understandable since we’re guests on your board. We have had some Texans fans visit this board and make some borderline psychotic remarks that would have started a riot had they been made on their board. We know losing sucks and feelings are a little raw, but jesus tap-dancing christ, how long do we have to treat you guys like you’re fragile special-ed kids. Football is a TEAM sport and you cannot cherry pick which plays count and which ones don’t. They all count towards the cumulative score with each play changing the complexion of the game as it progresses. You got beat. The winning team is the better team by definition. Reality is for adults.
"Lord help my poor soul" Edgar Allen Poe's last words
um
ok? i just gave mad props to how the team plays and you rip me for it? i make honest, objective observations about the defense and you rip me for it?
wow, real nice bro. i say well played, well fought, ravens won, the best team won, tell you that im pulling for the ravens to win it all and i get ripped?
and some of you wonder why we call some of you arrogant.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
That's exactly what I mean
I was being pretty soft on you and your feelings are hurt. Guess we gotta treat you like an invalid a bit longer.
"Lord help my poor soul" Edgar Allen Poe's last words
no
your acting like a prick because i make honest observations. we got beat by the better team, and im not ashamed to say it. but to rip me like that for absolutely no reason? bad form dude.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
And I'd like to point out you're the first to use an epithet
Losing sucks
"Lord help my poor soul" Edgar Allen Poe's last words
yes
indeed it does. but im just happy it was to the ravens and not the tebows or the pats.
just do us a favor and win the super bowl? please? im sick of hearing how awesome the NFC is and id love to see the ravens slap the smirks off of darth hoodie and the chees heads.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
• I don’t agree with #1 at all. Allen thought he had some balls to step up and he got beat like the punk he is. Allen absolutely had that coming and you won’t see anyone condemn Boldin for that in the slightest.
• Suggs had a decent game (5 tackles and 1 PD), but keep in mind that he was pulling double duty all day. Rice did OK, but like usual for our offense, he wasn’t used effectively. Rice isn’t a power back and we seem determined to use him like one. Foster is the better RB though, and I don’t think there is too many people that would argue with that either.
• We started out strong on D, but then started running some weird zone coverages when you guys were just running non stop. I’m really not too sure on why Pagano was calling what he was calling, but we got the stops when we had to and took care of business in the turnover department. Ray and Ed are really non factors physically at this point in their careers. If Reed doesn’t jump up and try to be the hero, the CB intercepts that ball. So I think next year we’ll actually be better without those 2 guys on the team.
• TJ looked really good in my opinion. He did make some mistakes, but that comes from facing a defense that is built to confuse QBs and apply mental pressure. I know I’m probably the only one here, but if I were a Texans fan, I wouldn’t mind trading Shaub for a good pick or 2 and keeping Yates in there.
• It was a good game. I definitely expected this one to be close and it to be a tough game. It was a game where we were either going to get blown out by your offense and not do anything on your D or we would churn out yardage and contain you guys for the most part.
Congrats on a good year. If you guys can stay healthy next year and maybe add another piece or 2, you guys should be serious SuperBowl favorites
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
1) i dont think you can get around the fact that boldin slammed his head into the turf. what allen did was stupid (why he tackled boldin away from the play ill never know) but boldin should have been the bigger man and just held him on the ground. it was a punk move, no matter how you turn it. allen was an idiot for jawing at him after being burned a few times, but boldin is a vet and should know better- hes lucky he didnt get a flag thrown.
2) that makes more sense now, both suggs and rice- even though rice wasnt having his best game, the more he ran the better he looked. not sure why cam decided to sling the ball around- i think the offense would have been better of letting ray run more and more.
3) not sure what you saw, but lewis made some beast tackles- blew up vickers on a few blocks and hit arian in the back field. ed reed was ed reed. he layed some hits and had a damn nice game. just hope he didnt hurt himself in the process.
4) not going to happen, at least not yet. many houston fans have been complaining that schaub has lost some arm strength, but i think part of that stems from 2 years ago and throwing an insane amount, something i dont think he was ready for. hopefully him being injured is a blessing in disguise and he throws the ball with more zip next year. but TJ is probably our QB of the future in about 2-4 years.
5) our offense was never anything to worry about really- we can move the ball but without schaub we cant score. arian/aj went beast mode and helped the offense out a lot- i was actually wondering what happened to dressen and daniels most of the game- they were non factors
6) WR and CB and i think they are good to go. kareem jackson sucks and jacoby sucks even more. those are the only real holes we have left on the team. but those are also 2 of the harder positions to get quality players for our system, so lets hope the front office can keep the drafting a success.
hope you guys destroy the pats next week. id love to see brady cry.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
can i please?
but only if i can send kareem with him.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Kareem would get beat by the preschoolers.
Jason Allen was getting beat like a bitch and was acting like it the officials would not do there job so somebody had to. Texans are a good team that are going to be back in the playoffs.
1) Everyone can say Boldin is the vet all they want, but Allen was a punk and you gotta cut that off immediately. Just like you saw later on in the game, Allen had nothing for him after that. Thats what a Vet does…. shut a guy up and make him respect you
2) Yeah, that is our curse. My theory is that Cam tries to be too cute and thinks “what won’t they expect us to do? Throw the ball a lot and never use Ray Rice effectively? Yeah, lets do that, they’ll never expect it!”.
3) Lewis was late a lot to tackles as well. He ended the game with 7 tackles, but at least 2 were touching a guy that fell down. This was one of their (Reed and Ray) better games this season, but still nowhere close to what they used to do and still replaceable by the guys behind them.
4) Yeah, you are probably right. TJ is a great find though and a guy that can be a solid guy in a few years with a little more training and experience. Be excited about that kid
5) Yeah, I’ll agree with that. I wasn’t necessarily scared all game, but I knew at any point you guys could blow up and have a great game.
6) Yeah, you guys should be able to pick up someone in the draft that can step in and help out a bit. It was weird to see Joseph on Torrey all game actually as I figured you would have put him on Boldin more. But really you guys are just 1 or 2 pieces from being fitted for rings.
I hope we destroy the Pats as well. If there is 1 thing I hate more than not winning, its allowing the Pats back in the SuperBowl.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Lewis was late a lot to tackles as well. He ended the game with 7 tackles, but at least 2 were touching a guy that fell down. This was one of their (Reed and Ray) better games this season, but still nowhere close to what they used to do and still replaceable by the guys behind them.
What? Lewis defended a pass that ended a drive and Reed didn’t allow a single completion all day while recording the INT that put Houston away late in the game. This “replaceable” theory of yours is pretty laughable.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah I don’t know what game you were watching. Reed was all over and had a vintage Ed Reed type performance. Ray also made some huge plays played one of his better games of the year. Both looked rejuvenated yesterday.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
to summarize
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Literally for 1 game they both played like they used to. They were out of position a few times and Reed tried to be superman and ended up batting an easy pick from one of our guys. Reed has been a non factor all season long and in some cases a complete liability. Ray has been a non factor physically all season long and everyone still rides his nuts because “he knows everything about defense”. The games that Ray missed, the defense played a ton better.
Maybe its just me getting tired of seeing Reed drop an INT and limp away, yet land harder in making a play and be just fine. I honestly think Reed has a bit of Roethlisberger in him in that regard and that annoys the hell out of me.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Literally for 1 game they both played like they used to.
Yeah, a playoff game. A lot of people speculated that Reed was saving himself for the playoffs and I think that was just confirmed.
Reed is who he is in regards to always coming up lame after hitting the ground. Call it “Paul Pierce Syndrome,” regardless, both are heading to the Hall of Fame.
The games that Ray missed, the defense played a bunch of crappy opponents.
Fixed that for you.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I don’t want a guy “saving himself”. That crap is for religious girls. I want a guy that plays that way every day. If he played like that more often, this game against the Patriots would be at home. Anyone that doesn’t give their all shouldn’t be on the field…. period
We played a bunch of crappy opponents…. Cincinnati and SF aren’t really crappy opponents. Cleveland and Indy gave teams troubles.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
What you’re telling me is that Ed Reed shouldn’t be on the field because he saved himself for the playoffs.
You’ve also said that Ray Lewis should get less snaps, Ray Rice should get less snaps, and Anquan Boldin doesn’t care or compete like he used to.
I wouldn’t be being honest if I didn’t tell you how incredibly stupid I think that is.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
They were out of position a few times and Reed tried to be superman and ended up batting an easy pick from one of our guys.
Examples on when they were out of position, please? Reed did not allow a single completion and even made some key tackles. I never saw Ray out of position. As for knocking the “easy” pick, there were like 18 Ravens right at that ball all going for it. Better to bat down a pick than allow a touchdown.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah, I have all the tapes and can point you to every exact play. I know what I saw and both played well, but not perfect. We can excuse every guy until we are blue in the face, but both werent perfect by any standards. This is the reason that Ray and Reed have gotten away with so much in this town. Everyone excuses them all the time because they were great, yet we can’t seem to get it through our heads that they are past their primes and can be replaced by people we have on the current roster.
Should they be replaced tomorrow, no. Are they playing lights out… eh
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone excuses them all the time because they were great, yet we can’t seem to get it through our heads that they are past their primes and can be replaced by people we have on the current roster.
You serious think tommy Z or Jameel McCalin can do better than Reed and Lewis or just as good? I know Lewis and Reed had there bad days this year but its not like great players dont have down years
Yea actually I think Zibby would do just as well as Reed did this year and McClain would do just as well as Ray did this year.
Are they HOF players, no but Reed and Ray arent playing like HOF players either anymore.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jameel wouldn't 'replace' Ray,
in the sense that Jameel’s already on the field with him. I believe we’d end up seeing a lot more Ellerbe.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
so now we are getting on guys for not playing perfect? Who is ever in perfect position on literally every single play? Well nobody will ever live up to your expectations because you are going to be waiting a long time. Even the guys at PFF who literally watch every player individually talked about how well both played and gave the game ball to Ed Reed.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
No, but I do believe during the season that Zibby and McClain would have been an equal replacement this year. What I have said repeatedly is that next year if Ray and Reed are still around, you start limiting their field time.
I haven’t ever bashed a guy for not being perfect, but I have said that people need to start acknowledging that they aren’t perfect and that they aren’t playing like they used to and that there is life after them. Everyone seems to just talk about them like they are in their prime and that talking about them not being perfect is akin to talking about them like they are scrubs.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
You haven’t only talking about next year though you have been talking about this year as well. I honestly have no clue what game you were watching yesterday, but Ed and Ray along with Webb were our best players yesterday. We are two games away from the Super Bowl and you are complaining and worrying about how Ed and Ray need to sit next year.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Dude this is the guy who said we need to give the ball to Ricky Williams more on the “Is Ray Rice Elite?” thread. Scroll up and read where he says Anquan Boldin doesn’t care enough…
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
give him a break… he gets excited and says shit… my fav is lardarius webb should gain twenty and play safety because he is better-suited to S ad the extra weight wouldn’t affect his quickness
all in good fun… all Ravens fans
Still believe it too!
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, given when I said it I still believe it was a good option. Maybe the 20 pounds thing was a little too far, but I still think he would make a really good safety. Of course he has turned into our best corner, but when the statement was originally made he was performing as one of our worst CBs and was really only used as a blitzing DB ala Reed from his first 2 years. The comparison wasn’t that far off in all reality and everyone grasped at the 20 pounds thing, but its all good. Just happy to have Webb back there with his deserved #1 CB spot.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, you took that horribly out of context man. I said that we should hand it to Ricky more in goal line formations because he’s a bigger back. I also said that you have seen over the course of the year that Cam has put the ball more in Ricky’s hands.
Never, ever did I say or imply that we should replace Rice.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Here is the thing… I have felt that way all year long. Maybe I chose the wrong time to bring it up or reapply my position publicly here, but I have though that all year long.
Here is where people seem to mistake what I say and take it to an extreme… “Ray and Reed absolutely do need to play less next year, even if just for their own health in a full season.” Now this isnt saying anything about this year or how they have performed this year.
This statement however does…. “Ray and Reed have been absent in most of our games. In fact, the time that Ray missed, the defense as a whole stepped up and played better. While you cant underestimate their importance from a leadership or knowledge standpoint, we do have more physically gifted guys that are younger that could step in just fine.” Again, this statement is factual and only calls to attention that both players haven’t been shadows of their former selves all year long. Again, maybe after last week’s game it was the wrong time to bring it up, but I stand by my analysis and I’d bet that most would actually agree with me if I said it 1 week earlier.
I dig that we are close to a SuperBowl and I’m not complaining at all about that. I am however realistic in how I view our players and their worth. Both are replaceable starting next year with very little dropoff. If you don’t agree with that, fine, but for anyone to laugh at what I said like it doesn’t even have its merits is insane and a little homer of anyone.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Literally for 1 game they both played like they used to. They were out of position a few times and Reed tried to be superman and ended up batting an easy pick from one of our guys. Reed has been a non factor all season long and in some cases a complete liability. Ray has been a non factor physically all season long and everyone still rides his nuts because
I think alot of people including your self haven’t taking in consideration that both reed and ray was playing hurt which effected their play. When Reed and Lewis has able to get their two week rest they eventually played better and Lewis look alot faster to me.
Design you said Ray has been a non fator physically all season long and every one rides his nuts. You are saying a guy that had 95 tackles,7 pass deflections, two sacks,two force fumbles, also won defensive play of the week last year was physically a non factor all season?
I think alot of people including your self haven’t taking in consideration that both reed and ray was playing hurt which effected their play
And you are right. I haven’t taken that into consideration and it might be affecting their play significantly. Though more likely, they are just over the hill at this point in their careers (which isn’t a bad thing, but it needs to be acknowledged)
I will say that as far as Ray goes, everyone knows he gets extra tackles tacked onto his totals. Whether its touching a guy that’s just laying there, piling on top of a player that has already been tackled
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by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
In terms of Ray's tackles,
it depends on where you pull your stats from.
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by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
And you are right. I haven’t taken that into consideration and it might be affecting their play significantly. Though more likely, they are just over the hill at this point in their careers (which isn’t a bad thing, but it needs to be acknowledged)
I consider my job to be pretty high-impact, and I can ASSURE you that literally any man with significant playing time in the NFL is nursing a legitimate injury at this point in the season. Talk about a 36 year old man? I guarantee you he’s hurt in many more ways than you would even bother to put on an injury report.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Of course every guy is injured, but that’s kind of a copout. For him to only get up limping after every single negative play is a little annoying. Its just like the kid everyone remembers from the school yard playing sandlot football. The kid threw a pick and he complains about his shoulder hurting or getting tackled too hard. I hated that then, and I hate it with multi-million dollar athletes that do it.
For Reed, it has been an excuse for a few years now. “aww, he’s hurt so that’s why he hasn’t done anything all year long and has been late to numerous plays”. Its just an excuse for a guy that isn’t a physically gifted as he used to be and can’t cover up when he’s exposed like he could before. I stand by my statement that Reed’s body and heart aren’t in it anymore and that if he returns next year, we should sit him on certain downs/situations to preserve him a little and get a young guy some gametime.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 22, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
this sounds familiar to texans fans
Yeah, that is our curse. My theory is that Cam tries to be too cute and thinks "what won’t they expect us to do? Throw the ball a lot and never use Ray Rice effectively? Yeah, lets do that, they’ll never expect it!".
some houston people have had the same problem with kubiak. he gets too cute for his own good sometimes. our excuse is he’s an aggie. not sure what cams is.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Confused.
I don’t understand the point of this. “Did Suggs play? Did Rice play?” Let’s say for instance they didn’t show up as you are implying. We still beat you. What does that say about the Texans? If our best players didn’t ‘show up’, you guys must be terrible. Pointing that out makes you look bad. Face facts man, your team lost. The Texans’ season is over because they weren’t good enough.
by Ultrakinetic Brad on Jan 15, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
you must not have read anything ive said
everyone of our best players showed up except antonio smith. everyone else stepped up. the game wouldnt have been as close as it was had arian and andre not played their minds out. TJ played like a rookie, but hes not one of our best players. and i said that out of disbelief. didnt see much of suggs, and rice was a non factor because cam thought he should throw the ball a bunch.
as one of the fellows around here pointed out (roa i think), suggs was in coverage a lot more than normal. i also found on ESPN that baltimore only rushed 4 or more like 9 plays out of the 35 dropbacks we had. that would explain why suggs had a quiet-ish game.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hey man
Great season, and great luck in the future. Arian Foster is pretty unreal. Your O-Line is definitely head and shoulders above ours.
As for TJ, it’s just inevitable. A young QB has to have a game like that and experience the pain of knowing that he hurt his team in order to learn how to protect the ball. I’m not sure if I can think of any QBs who haven’t had a 3 INT loss. It’s a bummer that it had to happen in the playoffs, but it is what it is. Either Yates will learn to be more conservative, in which case he has a chance to be a starter in the NFL, or he won’t, and he’ll be Sage Rosenfels.
My main concerns going forward are our pass protection and the lack of production from the receivers. So many times receivers run their routes right into the coverage and make no adjustments to break free whatsoever. Ed Dickson is awful with that. Every time the camera shows any footage downfield, it’s like he’s just robotically running where the playbook said to run. On timing routes that’s great and all, but if you see that the place you’re running to is covered, then adjust deliberately so that Flacco knows where you plan on going. And God forbid you came back to the QB when he’s pressured.
Anyway. Keep drafting well and you’ll be solid. It’s gonna suck finally losing to you one of these years but I’m sure it’ll happen.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Agreed. Our receivers have to be one of the worst at improvising. After they run the route they just stop and don’t make their way back or anything. I still think we could use a legit #1 guy to open it up more. Joseph pretty much took Torrey out of the game and while Boldin made some great catches it would be nice to have one more guy in that mix.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Our receivers have to be one of the worst at improvising. After they run the route they just stop and don’t make their way back or anything.
I dont understand that at times either. wideouts have the ability to adjust their routes but i can understand why Dickson, Torrey, and etc since they are still inexperienced or atleast not at that level of knowing what to do in certain situation when the defense is in certain type of coverage. This is what made Heap and Mason so good in the past because they would adjust their routes and could recognize what type of cover defenses were in .
I'm no great athlete
but one thing I can’t understand, in any sport, is how guys can stop trying to get open. Whether you’re playing football, basketball, soccer, or whatever, there is someone on your team who might need to get rid of that ball and you need to be there to help them. If you’re not open, you haven’t done your job.
Jazz, you said it earlier that the Ravens might need a new receivers coach. I’m not sure what goes on behind the scenes but I really don’t like the results this season. I don’t care how young or inexperienced you are—you need to get open. If you aren’t open you should feel angry and humiliated. You should want to beat your man every play, come hell or high water. I just can’t understand it.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Jackmca, why do you think we havent fixed the WR issue? Its been something that we’ve complained about for years now and it just seems incredibly lazy from our guys to not really try and get into the soft spot of a zone or come back when Joe is running for his life. Hell if we could complete 1 of those a game, it could make all the difference and maybe get us another 7 points from keeping a drive alive.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
why do you think we havent fixed the WR issue?
I think some of the problems cans be trace back to the wide receiver coach.
We also just suck at drafting WR’s. It’s a miracle we found Torrey. We are solid all over the board when it comes to drafting, but WR has been very difficult.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
It’s one of the hardest positions to draft, but you would think we would have got lucky once in awhile.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
so much of playing receiver is just an effort issue. Look at Hines Ward, that guy made a career out of raw effort. Same for Derrick Mason.
Receivers simply aren’t giving enough effort.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Not to get jazz started again
but one thing you had to love about Mason was that guy never quit trying to get open. EVER. He would kick and scream and talk shit and do literally everything within his power to make himself available to his quarterback. That shouldn’t be considered above average; that should be the standard.
I agree with jazz that this falls at the feet of coaching. Primarily the receivers coach but also the OC to a lesser degree.
I really think someone needs to scream at these guys and question their heart. If you think you played a pretty good game because you feel tired and you got open a few times, you’re F_____G wrong. You’re not done until your CB is in tears and you’ve banged his girlfriend. If you don’t have competitive standards that high, you need to either make some changes or get the hell off my team.
That’s one thing about great competitors. The Tom Brady’s and Kobe Bryant’s of the world get a sick thrill out of seeing the look on your face when you lose. You have to be sadistic like that. Just my two cents.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
btw
this is DEFINITELY at the top of my list of “concerns” going into New England.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
As We Saw
Against the T-Bows, Brady is sadistic that way. I was basically waiting for him to walk over to Fox & T-Bow and yell, “WHAT’S MY NAME?!?!?!?!?!”
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I completely understand. That is why Mason was able to be as good as he was. He wasn’t the most gifted guy in the world, but he busted his ass to make sure he was available for the QB.
Which brings me to Boldin. Is he just over the hill at this point or does he just not like it here? He was a guy that could compete his ass off back in Arizona, but here he seems to just not care whats going on. I really figured he was a better competitor than that.
You’re not done until your CB is in tears and you’ve banged his girlfriend.
You are our new WR! whenever I played the game, we wouldn’t be happy unless you stole their lunch money. When you take something from another person like that, you’ve taken their soul. When they have no soul, its game over forever (see Eddie George).
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Which brings me to Boldin. Is he just over the hill at this point or does he just not like it here? He was a guy that could compete his ass off back in Arizona, but here he seems to just not care whats going on. I really figured he was a better competitor than that.
Wait… what? Not sure what game you watched if you think Reed and Ray are replaceable and Boldin didn’t care. Over 70 yards receiving, some pretty impressive catches, and a TD on a beautiful route. The receivers have issues but you just called out literally the only guy who is playing well at that position.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Jackmca, I do absolutely think that Reed and Ray are still over the hill. They played their best games of the year on Sunday, but that doesn’t mean that the next man up wouldn’t do an adequate job. I believe you have agreed with me in the past that you hope they both retire this year so we can get the younger guys in there.
I think that Boldin had a good game as well overall, but he certainly didn’t WOW me and he hasn’t been anywhere close to his Arizona form. He, just like our other WRs, never seem to try very hard out there. They don’t come back to the ball, they don’t try and find the soft spot in zones and overall just run their routes and stand there. If he does those things, to me that’s just not caring.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Saying they’re over the hill and that the next man up would do an adequate job are two different things. The level of play we got out of those two guys on Sunday was far superior to “adequate.”
I believe you have agreed with me in the past that you hope they both retire this year so we can get the younger guys in there.
I have said I expect them to retire, which is different from “hoping.” That said, I have complete faith that they can turn it on and go balls to the wall this postseason, and I never doubted that all season. Do I have my doubts about them going through another 16-game season next year? Sure, who doesn’t? But I never questioned their worthiness this season and they just proved me right.
This season you’ve advocated to limit Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, and Ed Reed in playing time. All three times, those players have resoundingly proven why they play so much.
As for Boldin, he’s the only player who does come back to the ball—his in-play adjustment amounted to a touchdown in the first Cincinnati game. Trying hard? Did you see him screaming at everybody in the Atlanta game last season? I don’t think you perform as well as he did sunday without trying hard. That was an elite defense we just played.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
To compare what Boldin did statistically in Arizona,
a pass-first offense in which he had Fitz lining up on the other side and Kurt Warner throwing him the ball, to what he’s done in Baltimore in a run-first offense where he’s the number 1 receiver that teams key on is probably not a fair comparison.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
I never said compare stats. He never gave up on plays like he does here.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean by "gave up on plays?"
Can you give me an example of when he gave up on a play?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
no he can't
because it never fucking happened.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Trying.not to comment on this for the past two hours…… So diff
by Evan Skev on Jan 16, 2012 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This season you’ve advocated to limit Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, and Ed Reed in playing time. All three times, those players have resoundingly proven why they play so much.
Never ever did I say to limit any of those guys this season.
I have said (paraphrashing here):
•Ray Rice is getting some of his carries taken away by Ricky Williams.
•Ray Lewis is over the hill and I believe he will be taken out of 3rd downs next season
•I believe Ed Reed is done. I think he;s completely over playing football at this point in his career and he’s afraid of getting hurt
So yeah….. 2 are absolutely true and the other one is a sentiment shared by a fair number of people.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Giving more of Rice’s carries to Williams is, by definition, limiting him.
You’ve said Ray Lewis should be out on 3rd downs THIS YEAR as well.
Ed Reed friggin closed the game yesterday. But yeah, he’s done.
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Ok you’re starting to make sense now.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
i really think someone needs to scream at these guys and question their heart. If you think you played a pretty good game because you feel tired and you got open a few times, you’re F_____G wrong. You’re not done until your CB is in tears and you’ve banged his girlfriend. If you don’t have competitive standards that high, you need to either make some changes or get the hell off my team.
I was talking to my uncle last night about the game and I basicly talking to him about how the wideouts wasn’t giving Joe Flacco much help with there consistent drop passes. He responded and said it happens because Flacco allows it to happen.
He went on to talk about how Joe Flacco lack leadership and he doesnt need to be like ray lewis but instead he can be calm and still demand his offensive players to play at their best. Overall i think the ravens offense lack offense or atleast that person on offense thats going to keep them motivated and im not sure if Joe Flacco does that.
You may be right.
I’d definitely like to see him be a little more vocal. Instead of being vocal with reporters, be vocal with the guys who are directly affecting your level of play.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I agree that would be nice, but I really don’t think that’s going to help with the drops though. Packers have had that problem all year and they have Rodgers.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I think he does do this actually. I know he doesn’t get a lot of recognition for it, even from our own press, but I have heard a few stories about Joe taking command out there with our guys.
If you think about him and Mason. Mason acted like a punk and Joe put him in his place. I don’t doubt that Joe quietly talks to the guys and expects them to play better, but ultimately it comes down to the coaches not expecting more from our offensive players. We are OK with Joe and the offense just not making mistakes instead of shooting for better numbers and more points. Its the “if it aint broke…” sentiment taken to an extreme in this case by our coaches. When you don’t have coaches that take that next step with the QB, you get players that just won’t listen because “its good enough”
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Jan 16, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
A pro football player doesn’t need an alpha QB to make catches… He needs good hands and good concentration.
by Evan Skev on Jan 16, 2012 7:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think he does do this actually. I know he doesn’t get a lot of recognition for it, even from our own press, but I have heard a few stories about Joe taking command out there with our guys
I’m not sure or convinced that Joe Flacco really is a leader or a consistent leader on offense. You can clearly see the ravens offense lack some kind of motivation or leadership . If Flacco is a leader then his leadership skills needs some work .
You mention that the wideouts/tightends dont try hard enough to get open like they should so Flacco can get them the ball or atleast adjust their routes to beat a certain coverage the defense is in. If Flacco is really the general/captain of the offense I expect him to atleast pull up one of his wideout or tight ends and say I need you to do this when this happens and etc.
How can Flacco really be the leader of the offense when he consistently sees his wideouts stop running their routes and stand there in tight coverage and not try to atleast get open while he’s staring at them. I don’t see how he’s saying something about to them about that because they keep doing it.
absolutely not
Either Yates will learn to be more conservative, in which case he has a chance to be a starter in the NFL, or he won’t, and he’ll be Sage Rosenfels.
we dont need another rosencopter incident in houston. i still have nightmares about that. lets hope he becomes a starter lol.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Dickson also needs to learn to come back to the ball.
He can run the curls and digs and sit down down in the zone, but then he has a tendency to wait for the ball, allowing the DB to come knock it away. It’s something else Pitta does better than he does.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 16, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
The rookie quarterback winning streak continues
QB ratings for the game
Flacco 98
Yates 29
Its a little easier for us to be polite cuz our team won.
by Raven_all_day on Jan 15, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Acknowledged
Just that it’s a little tough being told by the losing team that they’re better than the winning team. Makes no sense
"Lord help my poor soul" Edgar Allen Poe's last words
um
not once did i say the texans were better? i made out some fair points about some struggles the ravens had and hopefully they fix before they play the pats.
for the record, the pats wont light up the secondary- after the way they played today, tom brady is going to have a tough time throwing it for 300 like he does. but cam needs to do something about his playcalling. you cant deny that.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed..play calling and execution was awful
by Toxicjin on Jan 15, 2012 8:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Congrats on the win
Now, in the name of all that is right and true about football, please beat the crap out of the Pats.
by Citizen of Steeler Nation on Jan 15, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
this
times a billion. please please PLEASE for the love that all is holy, dont just beat the pats- KILL the pats
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Tough Texans
… And congrats to the Texans. Man, I gave you guys no chance at all after you lost both Schaub and Williams for the season. Great defense and smashmouth offense. If the Steelers can’t be in it, I want a team to win that plays on both sides of the ball. The Pats are all O and no D. If Yates had a little more experience, you guys could have gone all the way.
by Citizen of Steeler Nation on Jan 15, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
So glad to see the record breaking passers going home
2 down, 1 to go.
And @ grandmasteroz, nice to have the Texans in the smash mouth fraternity, I didn’t realize… Was gonna say could we trade the Browns for you guys and bring you into the AFC North where you belong, but actually you guys scare me too much. I’ll take our chances once per year in the playoffs against the Texans.
by hookstrapped on Jan 15, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
ha!
no we cant trade places with the browns. you guys need someone besides the steelers to be the whipping boy of the division.
i like the way they play football now too. its enjoyable. we all knew last year our offense had a great running game but our defense was so bad it was laughable. i think they could have picked up scrubs off the 6 or 7 scrubs off the street to go with our good players and they would have done better. having a good defense like this makes it so much more enjoyable- now i know how you guys feel every year.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
please please!
I’m primarily a Houston Texans fan, but I live in Anamosa, Iowa, and we have a lot of Marshal Yanda fans here. My own family was rooting for the Ravens.
We all agreed that were rooting for the winner of this game.
I am so proud of the Texans, and the job they have done this year. Go show the Patriots and then the Giants or 49’ers that AFC defences are championship caliber!
Just got back from the stadium...
holy shit my ears are still ringing…
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by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 15, 2012 7:00 PM EST reply actions
If I may offer 2 things that both fan bases can agree on.
1) The Texans dominated the majority of the game on both sides of the ball.
2) Turnovers are nearly impossible to overcome on the road. In this game they were the difference between winning and losing.
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by Dynamo38 on Jan 15, 2012 7:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
turnovers
are the death of any team, home or the road. i can get over TJ throwing 3 INT because hes a rookie and played like one. but the jacoby jones fumble? WTF was he thinking. at one point i was hoping someone on the ravens ST unit would break his leg so we didnt have to keep seeing him out there lol
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Jacoby Jones was amazingly bad. Kubiak has balls of steel for leaving him back there. I guess he’s a big enough part of your game plan that you couldn’t demolish his confidence by benching him.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Actually no, turnover differential being so far in our favour shouldn’t go against us.
Our offense didn’t turn it over, even if they didn’t dominate that is important, we beat them there. Defense forced turnovers and got us points, that means we played better on that end.
that was the one thing our D didnt do
that they were so apt at doing in the regular season. we just couldnt get the turnovers. pressure like we had on flacco means nothing if we cant get a turnover or 2.
not sure which of you said this on BRB but ladarious webb has to be the most underrated corner in the league. i knew he was good, but damn. even with AJ getting a good chunk of yards, he made the plays when he needed them. that was huge.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been a big Webb fan all season but even I was shocked at how easily he outmuscled Andre and boxed him out on those picks. He’s been stellar, the elite CB we wanted with Jimmy Smith was actually here all along. To think I actually remember when the secondary was a major concern here.
did webb cover AJ exclusively the whole game?
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
must be when AJ got most of his yards- i remember seeing a lot of his yards coming against zones.
on a different note, any word on if reed was just sore or is the media saying it could be something else? id hate for you to lose him against brady. id love to see reed get 3 picks against him. oh, and ray lewis and or terrell suggs rain hell on him. their offensive line isnt near as good as ours is, so i expect to see a lot more sacks next week.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco is very risk averse. That’s one thing I like about the guy.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Congrats from a Texans fan.
Hate to see Reed go down on the last play. Good luck next week.
per ESPN
The Ravens sent just four or fewer pass rushers on 29 of Houston’s 35 dropbacks, but made the most of it, picking up three interceptions coming on such plays.
that explains why i didnt feel like there was much of a pass rush from the ravens and why the secondary was like a glove. well done sirs.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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Good game…great season…congrats
by Evan Skev on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if it wasnt for the 9ers saints game last night
this would have been the game of the weekend. pats/tebows wasnt any good, giants are winning by a good margin last i looked.
could we be seeing a harbaugh brothers rematch in the super bowl?
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Let's hope so
Two teams that play that style of hit em hard football would be a nice change of pace in this day and age.
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 15, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Okay Ravens u owe me.
Broke my heart twice this season, don’t do it again. Beat those Patriots pleeeease!
Only during the regular season…lol
by Toxicjin on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Special Teams as a whole today were solid all game long, with the exception of the first kickoff. Great coverage on kicks and punts, making great solid tackles. Much better than most, or almost all of, the reg. season. Koch was great today, avg. of 50 yards per punt. Big part of the success of the Ravens’ D. Forcing any team into having to drive 80+ yards is a daunting task.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 15, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
This^
Gonna need it all working in NE.
Gotta love the 2011 Ravens… Lots of talent, great character and playing belicheat for a chance to go to indy while pitt fans vomit in their mouths at the thought
STOKED
by Evan Skev on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So if the 49ers and Giants had no chance to beat destiny...
why did those two teams beat the two Superbowl favorites. I feel as though analysts far and wide will write this fact off and give the Ravens no chance next week. Assuming Brady doesn’t get another arcane rule in his favor, there’s no reason the Ravens can’t beat them. Of course they should be the favorites but way too early to be written off.
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
Pats open up as favorites, think it's 7.5 points.
Ravens are considered too unpredictable as a road-team and while the Pats are favorites, Belichick is probably forcing those guys to watch 24 hours worth of replays from that 2009 post-season matchup.
Still, any given Sunday.
It is what it is
by Middlesex on Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ravens plus 7.5 is nuts… Just like SF plus 4
by Evan Skev on Jan 15, 2012 9:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If the team that played today shows up in Foxborough,
they’ll losing by more than a TD guaranteed. Can’t rely on mistakes like the Jacoby James punt/fumble and that Yates-to-Andre interception.
It is what it is
by Middlesex on Jan 15, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Texans D is excellent. Cheatriots D… Not so much
by Evan Skev on Jan 15, 2012 10:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can I just say Cheatroits is such an awful insult.
Doesn’t rhyme or anything and the closest real word it sounds like it Chariots and that makes no sense.
Or Cheerios.
Which are delicious.
It’s almost as creative and insulting as “Rat Birds.”
Can I Scream?
They cheated and got caught. Penalized, fined and tapes burned. You may not like the nickname but it is well-deserved
by Evan Skev on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd take that all day...
7.5? Vegas didn’t watch the Ravens game yesterday, did they? That defense is deadly. And Flacco will put up yards on the Pats secondary.
Ravens won’t just cover, but will probably win as well.
I've got nothin'...
Matt Birk: Matt Birk disputes retirement report
Matt Birk – C – BAL – Jan. 15 – 7:03 pm et
Following Sunday’s playoff win, Ravens C Matt Birk disputed a CBS report that he’s already decided to retire after the season.
“No, I haven’t made that decision yet and I don’t know Charley Casserly,” said Birk of the CBS reporter who claimed he’ll hang ‘em up. "I don’t even know who he is, I don’t know him, he didn’t talk to me." Birk’s age (going on 36), bad knees, and expiring contract still lead us to believe he’s a prime retirement candidate, especially if he goes to his first career Super Bowl. Jan. 15 – 7:03 pm et
Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
Since when is Charley Casserly a "CBS Reporter?"
Charley Casserly is a former GM of the Redskins who helped build the famous OL group known as “The Hogs” as Assistant GM under Bobby Beatherd who he eventually succeeded. The Redskins won 4 Super Bowls while he was in the front office. It’s a little amusing to me (in an ironic sort of way) that Matt Birk doesn’t know who Casserly is. He was fired by Dan Snyder after the 1999 season. WTH is he doing as a CBS Reporter???
Michael Oher is so fast off the ball that he only appears to be off-sides.
he was also
the jackass that made the first 6 years of the texans franchise such a wash. bad coaching pick in dom capers, bad draft picks, no depth. its amazing kubiak is still here with all of the changes to everything he had to install. a lot of people, even in houston, dont realize when kubiak came in, everything changed. scouts, front office, players etc. i think the only player left on the team from casserly is AJ- mario was his last draft pick, but kubiak and smith were the ones coaching him/training him up and putting him in position to succeed.
i hate charley casserly.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good win today
Can’t wait to play you guys in Foxborough. We have a decent rivalry brewing
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
From a Jets Fan
congrats on the win and trip to the AFC championship game. Now please, BEATS THE PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All good questions.
Ravens O looked mediocre. Then again, it was an excellent D they were facing….
It is what it is
Good luck next week Ravens,
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Great Win!!
But offensive line, and O coordinator should be an off season priority. Flacco didn’t have a chance!
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Every time Dierdorf or Gumbel mentioned the lack of yards our offense had I couldn’t help but yell at the screen. Not only were they completely ignoring the fact that the Ravens held the lead for the entire game, but how the hell are you supposed to get good yardage with the phenomenal starting field position we had all game? I’ll take points over yardage all day, and that’s just what our offense did.
Sure, we had some crappy drives. We also didn’t have any turnovers or penalties. Our offense did what it needed to and that was put more points on the board than the other team. Is that sexy? No, but once you turn the lights off it feels the same.
those 2
ah those 2 announcers. they are just never happy with anyone winning. dierdorf is terrible. such a moron.
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 15, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, the Texans scored first.
Michael Oher is so fast off the ball that he only appears to be off-sides.
Nice win. Ugly, but nice. Webb has become the steady edddie on D. The 3 man rush was by design to allow Yates to beat himself and keep Foster in check. It worked. They got 1 TD. Great catches by Bolding and Evans top salvage Joes day. Our offense never stood a chance with its game plan. 2 weeks to come up with that mess. The Texans D line was actually more menacing than the last time we played them. Oh well.
Cam needs replacing. No way around it. He abandoned the run in favor of first down passes when ricky and ray were ripping off 5-6 yard sprints. He never adapted to the pressure. It’s one thing when you run misdirection play against the lowly Browns but it’s actually needed against a D like the Texans who are pounding your Wb’s face into the turf.
I don’t need to comment on him leaving the Texans with 2 TO’s after calling doomed pass plays. Run 3 times, Texans use all there TO’s. Heck, it was 2 and 5. Who’s to say we don’t rip off 5 more. Better chance of that then Flacco completing a pass under that pressure. Hate for a guy to lose his job but Cam did a poor job in all phases of offense and time management.
Well I was rooting for the Texans
But only because I would have liked to see some new faces in the Super Bowl. NOW, I am praying that history repeats itself. Go Ravens!!! SACK THE PATS!!!
People need to understand
That this game we just won has absolutely nothing in common with what we are about to face in the Pats. The Texans defense is one of the best we will face or have faced all year and while their offense is nothing like NEs, their run game is so much better, as is their offensive line.
Expect a better offensive showing next week and a completely different matchup for the Ravens defense as we are built to beat the Pats, and they are not built to beat us.
aka 'Rexx'
Wait how exactly
are the Ravens “built to beat the pats”?
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
Strong D, strong run, big armed QB to exploit a weak secondary
Strong pass rush to get Marsha rattled
by Evan Skev on Jan 16, 2012 3:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A big arm for a QB means nothing
If you don’t use it effectively. And the Ravens passing offense is 19th best. And the D is strong, but their not impenetrable. They haven’t faced many great offenses or QBs this season. In fact they only faced one top ten team in offense and that game SD (#6) put 34 pts on them. The Pats have the #2 rated offense, so they are more than capable of scoring on that D even though it’s pretty good.
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
don't get too caught up in regular season numbers.
The best defense the Pats faced all season was the Steelers, after that it’s just a bunch of exploitable defenses. So in the same way you analyzed our defense, you could say that your offense hasn’t faced many great defenses.
It’s the post season and the game isn’t played on paper. If you want to really spark some discussion, try talking match-ups instead of numbers.
by Mayne_Event on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
When You Put
It that way, I like our match-ups against all of the Patriots’ offensive skill players except for one- Brady. Webb can handle Welker; I think we will properly game plan Gronk, and the running backs don’t scare me, but Brady is just beyond good right now. I almost want to go all Rex Ryan on Brady’s a$$ and blitz the stuffing out of him. Can you bring 11? I almost think the only way you can beat him is to irritate him. But I fear that may be a little too high risk/high reward for my liking.
Would love to know what is going through Chuck’s mind right about now…
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Okay let's talk match-ups
The best match up the Ravens have is on their D-line. Ngata is quite frankly a beast and probably keeps 7-10 extra points off the board because he is so disruptive in the middle. Brady can handle Suggs, but pressure up the middle from Ngata just plain KILLS drives. That’s the match-up I’m most worried about and that did give us a problem last year, but with our new usage of the no-huddle offense (something we underused last meeting) and our improved interior line (Waters, Cannon) I think that pats can limit Ngata’s impact in the passing game.
The match-up I like is (big surprise) our TEs versus your older LBs. They are much better players than they were in 2010 and both of them are major parts of the gameplan. Also I do admit that Webb is a very good cover corner, but Wes Welker in single coverage is a slam dunk. If the Ravens just put one man on him, then I’m confident he can get open. Ed Reed is Ed Reed. He is always a concern, but if anyone can beat Ed Reed at his own game of deception it’s Tom Brady.
On offense, Ravens don’t worry me too much. Ray Rice is a monster, but is stoppable, and if he’s stopped the Ravens offense is too more or less. We did it last year with a rather inexperienced D (probably their best game that year) and we can do it now with the same young players who have more experience. Joe Flacco is IMO a decent QB, not terrible like some people might thing, not a half-step below elite like others might think. He is capable of shredding this, but it’s certainly not a given, so he’s not a big concern.
Rex Ryan: "There’s no way that we’re looking to replace Mark Sanchez"
Patriots Nation: "Thank God"
Giants Fans: "FOUR MORE YEARS!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!"
If
Your built to beat the pats then you should be able throw the ball up and down the field as well as stop the aerial assault. The two teams are pretty evenly matched and it should be a good game, just don’t get the built to beat the Pats logic.
I hope so but Cams overall philosophy of offense is upside down. The D will be positioned correctly and it depends on the players to execute. The offense will need their playmakers to overcome the play calling. We needed some great catches today to keep drives alive. We need a lot more consistancy and establishment of the run to get by NE. When you have to run out Chris Wilson to save you on the goal line and then fail on multiple 1 foot plays…….
Kris. I'll forgive you for that because the dude has down jack all before that catch. I was half sure he got cut somewhere down the line.
The short yardage was awful, that won’t be a problem again though unless we play the Niners. Patriots can’t match us in the trenches at all.
Good game, fellas.
We just made too many mistakes to win.
I’ll be rooting for you guys to win it all now.
Always been an admirer of the Ravens’ D. Hopefully our defense, in time, can develop that swagger that you guys have had for the past 10 years.
Again, great game. Now go beat the shit outta Brady.
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by bone31crusher on Jan 15, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i always root for the texans in your division. you’re the best hope for (when he is healthy) manning beating. i also love the texans stealing any attention away from the cowgirls.
by raven on Jan 15, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i was at the game hanging out on the rail watching the teams warm up. man, you guys have some big fit lineman. your strength and conditioning coach has those guys in monster shape. i knew it was going to be tough and we would need some breaks. you brought even more pressure than last game. we never really solved it.
Congrats to the Ravens
I take some consolation that we were the first team EVER to run for over 100 yards against you guys in the play-offs. Flacco made some absolutely brilliant throws into great coverage despite facing pressure all day. The turnovers killed us but I don’t feel bad about this loss at all. Taking advantage of mistakes is what good teams do, and you guys have a good team. Now go get Vonta his ring!
excellent win from titans fan
give’m hell in NE. watch out for that gronk, that dude is the grim reaper. your D is a force though.
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by stetix01 on Jan 15, 2012 11:58 PM EST reply actions
Thanks…sorry you guys won your last game but didn’t make it
by Evan Skev on Jan 16, 2012 10:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Off topic
Did anyone see 49er TE Vernon Davis interviewing at the half of GB/NYG game? If I understood him correctly, he said he wanted the Giants! That’ll be bulletin board material for the Giants.
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by IndridCold on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 AM EST via Android app reply actions
…off course I understand he wanted the home game. But still!
Be modest! It is the kind of pride least likely to offend.
--Jules Renard (1864 - 1910)
by IndridCold on Jan 16, 2012 12:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Can’t discount John Harbaugh’s record he set today for playoff wins. We should all be grateful to have a coach that has done a lot to bring stability and playoff wins home. We’re one of the lucky few franchises that can generally start the season with reasonable playoff/Super Bowl hopes. Ask 20 or so other fan bases for some perspective and I’d bet that most of them would take Harbaugh and Flacco over whatever they have to root for on Sundays. It shouldn’t be taken for granted. Let’s continue to kick some ass!
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by WestminsterRaven on Jan 16, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions
Harbaugh vs. Harbaugh
I’m guessing this has already been addressed here. But how cool would that be?…
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by IndridCold on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Texan fan here
I wish you guys good luck next week. It really was a hell of a game. I look forward to facing you guys in the playoffs next year.
Honestly though, I didn’t know our d was that good.
Texans fan as well
That was a tough loss to swallow, but I suppose any playoff loss is. There are so many “what-ifs” that can be tossed around, but at the end of the day y’all came out on top. Congrats, and give the Pats hell!
I look forward to seeing y’all in the post season next year, hopefully this time with Schaub and Mario suited up (and Jacoby Jones very very far away from the stadium)!
Oh and as for bully...
I can safely say I do not at all recognize him from BRB. Don’t let him leave a sour taste in your mouth if he’s been trolling y’all all week.
by Calvinball on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks…I can’t speak for every Ravens fan here. But I think it’s more comical than disrespectful. Primarily because of jealous obsessive nature of his comments…funny really…laugh
Be modest! It is the kind of pride least likely to offend.
--Jules Renard (1864 - 1910)
by IndridCold on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Man, I keep forgetting other things I wanna say...
Regarding the Ravens dropped passes…your receivers also made some spectacular grabs in great coverage. I’d consider it a wash.
And Webb was a beast today. I can tell you, though, some of us Texans fans were pretty salty about how snubbed our D was for pro-bowl/all-pro selections. Considering how well represented your team is this year, I wouldn’t complain too much if I were in your shoes.
Boldin is freaking sick. I couldn’t believe some of his catches.
by MadMartygan on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
I put my face in my hands at that one handed grab
That was tough to watch.
My dad pointed out to me that the Ravens did not have a single penalty called against them. The Texans had three.
Be modest! It is the kind of pride least likely to offend.
--Jules Renard (1864 - 1910)
by IndridCold on Jan 16, 2012 12:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah I don't know if it was a really clean game
or if the refs just fell asleep. I definitely prefer sleeping refs to refs with yellow flags loaded into a gatling gun.
Congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens...
and all of their incredible fans!! Great game today! Now…. go stomp fuck the Patriots!!
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Yet another Texans fan dropping by.
I’m not going to say much about the game because anything I could say has already been said. I will say I’ve always had a bit of a soft spot for the Ravens (the enemy of my enemy (Steelers) is my friend and all that), and everything I’ve seen this week has only shown the class that the organization and the fanbase has. You’ll have my support, for what it’s worth.
Now go plant Brady head-first into the grass in Foxborough and get Ed Reed a well-deserved ring.
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by Synchysi on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Let's just beat the fucking patriots
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