Matt Schaub vs. T.J. Yates
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST
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The first time this season that the Baltimore Ravens beat the Houston Texans 29-14, they faced QB Matt Schaub, although All-Pro WR Andre Johnson missed the game due to injury. This time the two teams will meet in the playoffs, but without Schaub and now with both third-string QB T.J. Yates and Johnson. Will the combination of Yates with Johnson be able to do what Schaub could not?
Let's take a look at the regular season stats between the two Texans QB's, with the understanding that while Matt started ten games while TJ only started six.
One of the biggest debates is the difference in the two QB's styles. While Schaub is more of a pocket passer than Yates, TJ is more mobile, but perhaps takes off running rather than remaining patient in the pocket looking for the open receiver. However, the biggest difference between the two is the willingness and ability to throw the longer passes. Schaub was by far the more efficient passer in the range of not only throwing the deep ball, but the mid-range ones as well.
Matt Schaub threw 33 passes over 20 yards, completing 11 of them fo 432 yards and five TD's. In comparison, T.J. Yates is just one of ten in attempts over 20 yards, with the one completion being for 50 yards. In fact, Yates is only 19 of 42 in passes of 11 yards or longer, while Schaub was 47 of 84 at the same distance. This shows a great penchant for throwing the long ball proportionately based on average attempts per game played as well as completion rate.
In addition to Schaub's obvious greater proficiency with the longer passes, he had seven TD passes of over 11 yards, while Yates had none in the regular season. All three of TJ's three TD passes were under ten yards, further proving the TV commentators who refer to Yates as a "dink-and-dunk" type of QB.
Looking at the two QB's inside the opponent's Red Zone, Schaub is clearly the more dangerous passer, with 28 completions in 69 attempts for 152 yards and a QB Rating of around 65. While his completion percentage is only around 40% in this tougher area to be proficient, it is still significantly ahead of Yates' rate.
In comparison, Yates is only 8 of 24 (33%) inside the Red Zone for a grand total of 40 yards and a QB Rating of around 50.
In their week six regular season match-up with the Ravens, Texans QB Schaub threw for 220 yards on 21 completions in 37 attempts, one TD and no picks. His QB Rating for the game was 83.2. In order for Houston to compete and hope to have any chance of upsetting the Ravens, Yates is going to have to match or even exceed Schaub's stats, which to this point in his short NFL, just haven't happened.
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Bruce, I'm really glad you did a piece on this.
I’m utterly amazed at the overwhelming number of Houston fans who have talked themselves into this idea that Yates presents any advantage whatsoever over Schaub.
If Ravens fans were half as good at talking themselves into the Joe Flacco era as Houston fans have been about TJ Yates, The Shadow would have dropped $220 on a replica jersey by now.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Agreed
There were also a ridiculous amount of posts from Texans fans claiming Yates was somehow better than Flacco. A few were tongue-in-cheek but still. Talk about putting the FAN in fanatic.
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it's almost time
to put the debate to bed and just wait for the game. We’ve been back and forth with Houston fans so many times this week on every subject at least three times over that it’s just reached “broken record” status at this point.
Our 4day just started down here for MLK Day so I’m finna hit the pool for a little recoverey workout and then commence to makin my weekend plans.
Off topic: ever try a workout called “the filthy 50?” That really sucked this morning.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
This.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Try the new P90X2
Much less the old P90X and then you will know why we say, “your workout is our warm-up!”
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Bruce, the filthy 50 is nobody's warmup!
LOL czech this out:
50 box jumps (24")
50 jumping pull-ups
50 Kettle bell swings (35lb)
50 steps walking lunge
50 knees to elbows (hanging from a pullup bar bring your knees to your elbows 50x)
50 push press (45 lbs)
50 back extensions
50 wall ball shots (20 lbs)
50 burpees (FML)
500m row.
It’s to be done for time. A pretty damn good time would be 30 minutes. Took me about 45 minutes.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I am more amazed at the Baltimore fans' seemingly obsession in comparing Yates and Schaub and pointing to it as a Yates vs. Schaub situation
Schaub won’t be available to play Sunday. Why even discuss it? Schaub is merely another coach on the sidelines. That’s all. End of discussion.
PS: I hope that the Ravens team is just as obsessed with this comparison, because that means they are taking their minds off the game.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
You're missing the point
this post is a rebuttal to the myriad Texans fans who have tried to say things like “Yates has the better deep ball and better mobility.” The point is that you’re playing with a worse QB than you did before.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yates has both of those, we have watched all of Schaub's games and all of Yates's games.
Overall Schaub is vastly superior to TJ, that doesn’t mean he’s better at everything.
yates is more mobile and does have the better arm
thats all we have been saying. its a fact
also a fact is that schaub is the better QB
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I think 98% of Texans fans know Schaub is a better QB overall
The only 2 advantages TJ has over Schaub is that he has a better arm, but less accurate, and he is faster than Schaub.
And 99% of Texans fans would rather have a healthy Schaub than T.J. playing on Sunday with Andre Johnson.
If you think Yates has a better arm and is more mobile
then that’s the same as saying he IS better than Schaub. Just because he might have a stronger arm, doesn’t make it a better arm.
Trust me, when Schaub returns next season no one will EVER hear from TJ Yates again. EVER.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not So Sure
About that about Yates. While I agree he will be getting in over his head this weekend, he has shown he is an NFL caliber QB, even starting material (he is only a rookie). I am sure the Texans will be offered a trade or two over the off-season for young TJ. I could see the Texans potentially trading Schaub sooner rather than later, while they can still get value for Schaub, and continuing the progression/evolution of Yates.
I would be curious of two things from Texan fans: if Schaub, for whatever reason was not back next season, would they be okay with Yates going forward; and if given you druthers, would you rather have Yates or a Ponder or a Gabbert?
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I would absolutely rather have Yates.
Although, Ponder would make me second guess that decision quite a bit. He showed quite a bit of promise on a horrendous Vikings team this year.
And something that is being underestimated is his “clutchness” which isn’t easily quantifiable. Yes, some people have stats on it, but I wouldn’t take them highly at all. Yates has made some great plays while being in tough situations. The Bengals regular season game, for example. When faced with a 3rd and 15, the kid ran for it and picked up 16 yards. Very heads up play.
Yates has a stronger arm and is more mobile, but there are TONS of things that make up a QB. Matt Schaub is more accurate(even though it’s admittedly dropped off a bit this year and last year). He has better throwing mechanics and gets the ball off quicker. He’s better in the short routes. So, Bruce, it’s not the same as saying he IS better. Just certain aspects of his game are better. And overall, Schaub has more things that are better than TJ, which is what makes Schaub better overall.
I've got nothin'...
As Texans fans we've seen them play every game over the years
and are well aware of Schaub’s positives and his negatives. He’s been trending worse the last two seasons with a weaker arm than in the past, and with terrible accuracy throwing at shoe laces and behind receivers. I’m not talking about one or two a game, but one or two a series. It’s been a point of frustration over the last two seasons.
THAT is why we are searching for answers at QB if Schaub is unable to get back to his previous capability in the role.
Someone just reading stat sheets and seeing only one or two games a year is not going to see the same trend as fans who attend and watch every game.
Hopefully Schaub does get back to his 2007-2009 ability. He’s a really great person! If he continues to struggle with passing accurately and deep, then it’s time to develop his replacement.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
You are out of your mind if you think an
“overwhelming number of Houston fans [ ] have talked themselves into this idea that Yates presents any advantage whatsoever over Schaub.”
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
No Texans fan that I know would not prefer to have Schaub back.
Just saying TJ is “more mobile” or some such does not mean one believes the team is better off with TJ vs. Schaub.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
You say that Yates hasn’t had a QB above that 80s stat for Schaub, but yates had a QB rating in the upper 90s for our game last Saturday. Also, when Johnson was our during the regular part of our season, he practiced with Yates to keep in shape. Johnson is quoted as having said that they’ve built quite a chemistry.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
sorry *out, not our
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
We will see
how that plays out on the field. It’s hard in the NFL to compare a win over a team we also beat twice this year (Cincy) vs. how you will do once again vs. us.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Indeed we will. Looking forward to it. Why isn’t Sunday here yet? sigh
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
IKR!!!
It can’t get here soon enough. I’ve been pumped up since Monday!
I've got nothin'...
I’ve been pumped up since the game on Saturday…and I was pumped up before then too. I’ve worn gear to work all week, sifted through every article about the game I can find. At least there’s no work to deal with tomorrow.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
also, had to fix this:
Yates is going to have to match or even exceed Schaub’s stats, which to this point in his short NFL career just haven’t happened.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
With Schaub in the game, the Texans passed more...
You also have to consider that Schaub had Andre for about 4 more games than TJ had him for. As far as I know, during the season, TJ had Andre for 1.25 games. During that stretch, the Texans also decided to run the ball more and utilize RBs as receivers on screen plays.
If you know the Texans, you know that Jacoby Jones can’t hold a flame to Andre when it comes to route running and being able to snatch a ball out of the air like a hawk.
I’ll grant you this. TJ hasn’t impressed me like Schaub has on short to intermediate routes. At the start of the game, he seems to be a little bit off on his passes. Usually being a little to high. Overall, TJ has better arm strength in the fact that Schaub’s arm seems to have declined a bit from the 09-10 season. His ability to stretch the field is still good, but not as good as TJ’s given his younger, more healthy arm. And Schaub, in this season, has started missing throws that he normally makes. My personal belief is that in two years, another QB will be at the helm of the Texans.
It’d be foolish to say you’d rather have TJ in this game than Schaub, but I think the drop off isn’t as great as most people think it to be(allowing experience is taken out of the equation). However, given two years of experience, I wouldn’t be upset with TJ taking over the position.
I've got nothin'...
That’s one of the things though is experience can’t be taken out in this part of the year. Experience is huge in the playoffs. Rookie QB’s for any team in general tend to not play very well in the playoffs.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
fully agree
But if thats the one thing youre grasping on to, I like our chances
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that’s one pretty damn big thing, considering the W-L of rookies in the playoffs. We like our chances of landing on the W-side of that equation.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
This. It’s not like it’s something that is no big deal. It’s huge relying on a rookie against an elite defense. We have witnessed it with Flacco.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
he already has done this
if crocker knew how to catch lol
They dont need him to throw for 350 to win is my point
marc friggin sanchez won playoff games on the road. It can happen, however unlikely it is
we can win with him going 13-22 213 yds, 1 TD 1 INT
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If your running game struggles though he very well may need to throw around 300 to win it.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
That's the main point of our offense this game.
It shouldn’t be Schaub vs. Yates
*Proud Packers shareholder*
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
That's why we are still in the playoffs.
Our offense includes TJ Yates, it hardly revolves around him. That fact and defense have carried us.
Things might get interesting if we put you in a lot of 3rd and longs.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yessir.
Kubiak’s entire gameplan is predicated around “staying on schedule”.
They are mis informed because they havent seen all the snaps
cant blame them, As I havent seen all of baltimores snaps.
stats dont tell the whole story
He isnt WAY off though, just a little
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I refer them to the Falcons game before Andre went down, the first play of the first Bengals game and the three deep shots to Andre last Saturday.
The Carolina, Indy and Tennessee game (only 1 series for Yates) are pretty irrelevant to anything that matters.
You are looking at the wrong thing
The play calling is WORLDS more conservative with yates. LIGHT YEARS DIFFERENCE
You wouldnt know that cause you dont watch the texans, and I dont fault you for it at all..
otherwise you are exactly right, and we havent disagreed with you.
Schaub is the better QB and its not close.
The point I was trying to make is simple. Andre changes the entire defensive game plan.
Of course schaub without andre is a better QB than Tj WITH andre. I dont deny this AT ALL.
I think you give schaub to much credit and Tj not enough, but to each their own.
The texans are better with andre on the field no matter who is QB
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This can be a problem as well though. A conservative offense isn’t going to beat our defense. You have to be able to stretch the field and make plays against our D. If play calling is conservative than Andre really won’t be as big a factor.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
they HAVE been conservative
but they wont this game if they want to win. Kubiak and the whole world knows this
they will open it up this week or get blown off the field
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This...
Kubiak seemed to scale down the playbook and play much more conservative once they clinched the division. In the two Cinci games, the Atlanta game, and even the two minute drill against the Jags when he was thrown in for the first time, they let loose and he looked good. If I recall correctly, Kubiak had even said that he wasn’t gonna go conservative and call games just like he did with Schaub. But, in my opinion, with the way the conference was shaping up, I believe he didn’t think it was worth the risk to go for the 2 seed when there was little chance. Off topic, but say we had won out, would we still be the 3 seed?
*Proud Packers shareholder*
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
If everything stayed the same around us (meaning the Ravens and Pats still won out)
We still would’ve been the 3 seed.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
This is as close as Kubiak will ever get to publically admitting he was holding TJ back against Indy.
(on only converting one third down last night) "Yeah, that’s been poor the last two weeks. First off, last night, a lot of our third downs were very long yardage. We ran the ball very well, but we had some situations, some second-and-eight, second-and-nine runs that were negative plays for us and ended up some third-and-12s. In that place, with those pass rushers and that speed coming off the edge, when you get in those situations, it gets very, very dangerous. Some of that was me making some calls trying to keep us out of harm’s way and not make some things worse, but at the same time, we had four or five of them that we should have made too and we didn’t. When you’re one-for-10, you’re going to lose the time of possession. I think we’ve been the top of the League throughout the course of this year in time of possession and last two weeks, we’ve lost it both games and we lose both games, so that tells you how important it is."
That’s part of why some of us are confident. It’s either you keep playing conservative which probably won’t work too well or all of a suddenly say ok time to open up against one of the toughest defenses in the league. It’s a lot to ask of a rookie.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
It's a monumental task for a rookie, but what do you want? Us to forfeit?
Delhomme’s been here about 2 months, he’s not an option.
Not saying just stated that as a reason why a lot feel the drop off from Schaub to Yates seems bigger than you guys make it out to be. In terms of ability from what you guys say they sound about equal, but that experience factor is huge.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
by AV23 on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's huge. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
Ability-wise, who cares? Peyton Manning has some of the least natural ability in the league. Yates has the mental traits to start in the league at some point according to most who know him, but right now he’s a rookie.
TJ is 3-0 (Atlanta & Cincy x2) in games that matter, all against playoff teams, though. He had 4th quarter winning drives in two of those three games. That is what we cling to.
TJ is 3-0 in games that matter?
Heck, they ALL matter, otherwise we could say that Flacco is 12-0 in “games that matter,” as those four losses came against losing teams. Besides, the Ravens have NOT lost to a winning team all season and the Texans were only 4-4 against winning teams in the regular season and only 2-2 on the road, much less only 2-2 at home.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
You can't compare TJ to Flacco in this particular argument
Flacco has been around for several years and has a larger sample size than TJ. That’s the point of this argument…in the few games we have seen TJ work, he has done very well in games that matter, far exceeding expectations.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
You really aren't familiar with what happened after we clinched our division, are you?
Keeping TJ upright for the playoffs superseded winning.
This is the very root of the difference of opinion.
We, as Texans fans, understand that the three games after clinching the division are not indicative of what to expect.
Bruce's point
is that Yates shouldn’t necessarily get a pass for poor play in games even when you had already clinched the division.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
This shows a great penchant for throwing the long ball proportionately based on average attempts per game played as well as completion rate.
The stats are very skewed. After the first Cincy win and the division crown, Kubiak turtled up the offense. He’s on record as saying he was just trying to get out of Indy with Yates still standing.
exactly
This is what this post is lacking, but how are these guys suppose to know this? they dont, which is why I dont have any issue with it
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ESPN has them
Click on stats,then the small link for “more stats.”
For Yates, they’re not too encouraging.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I got a off topic question.
Would the ravens trade Ngata for any Two Defesnsive players off the Texans?
hell. no.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Agree with jack. No way, no how. Because Ngata is a dominating force and is the best D lineman in the NFL. He commands a double team almost always which frees up pash rushers, he also gets a fair amount of sacks despite said double teams. He’s incredibly fast, if you watch him enough sometimes he runs RBs down from a mile away and I’ve even seem him in coverage, haha! He is the “pivot point” of our D, without him it might not work.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMH1xiiEbMo
Here’s a display of the kind of power he works with.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I swear I’m not being a homer. The guy is an extremley rare human being. No one that big should be able to move as fast as he can.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 12, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. People don’t really consider many linemen freaks of nature, but Ngata has to be up there.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
How many guys in the world are over 340 lbs and don’t have a gut!?
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah it’s insane. He’s also a great goal line blocker lol (although I would prefer we stop that).
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Ngata played rugby
and can dunk a basketball, and has been seen chasing down RBs from behind. He is as good and contributes as much as any two players on most teams. For the record, I’d take Mario Williams and Brian Cushing if I had to choose.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
he. can. dunk.
completely insane.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I Feel Sorry
For the rim and backboard…
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"It's big for a reason."
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I wouldnt trade him for mario AND JJ
ngata is a BEAST
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Ngata is the equivalent of a franchise QB on defense. The idea of trading him is unfathomable. You build en entire decade’s worth of draft picks around that guy.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Ignoring contracts I'd imagine?
Ngata’s locked up for 5 more years. Isn’t Mario an UFA?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I believe so...
He either gets franchised or he walks away.
I’m thinking the Texans won’t pony up the money needed to keep him. I love his play and think he does a great job(demands double coverage most of the time), but I think Reed’s fitting in well. And sometimes, it seemed like Mario would take a few plays off during a game. So, if he doesn’t stay, it’ll sting a bit considering he’s been a face of the franchise, but it won’t be a dramatic drop off.
I've got nothin'...
They haven’t settled on anything with Mario or Foster, yet. Mario requires tons of money to keep. We better put up the money for Foster though. Bob needs to loosen up those purse strings and do whatever it takes to try and keep Wade and Foster.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
No. Best and most versatile D lineman in the NFL. He’s a rare talent.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Also LB’s are a lot easier to find than a D lineman of Ngatas ability.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
And LBs play a lot better with a guy like Ngata in front of them. Cushing would wreak havoc if he had Haloti
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Cushing
Would be Ray-Ray with Ngata…
Okay, that might be pushing it, but you get my point…
In terms of the original question, the only way I even answer the phone for that call if I was the Ravens GM, would be if not only did I have my pick of two defensive players, but AJ also was a throw in. And that’s the starting point for negotiations. Yeah, he’s that good.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
CONCUR
’nuff said.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Ngata is great
But I wouldn’t part with Cush or Mario, which is what they would ask for at least.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
How will the Ravens score on the Texans defense?
Since the 29 you dropped last time was 3 months ago. How would you go about attacking them this time around?
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Do what we do well. Run the ball, work to get Rice the ball in space with the passing game, and stay aggressive throwing the ball downfield. KJ has to cover someone.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Flacco's "experience" doest mean anything
He has been the same QB since his rookie year. Look at all his playoff games….how many GOOD games has he had? 1 maybe 2, the rest are horrible or less than stellar.
The QB’s will not be the difference in this game. The difference will be who controls the line and runs the ball better.
yeah
the run games are hard to predict. We both run the ball very well and stop the run very well. Both run games could be successful, both could get bottled up, or one could be great while the other sucks… and so on and so forth.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
True, but I would bet on you stopping the run before us because that's what you're built to do.
We’re built to rush the passer.
On the other hand, I’d take Tate and Ward over Williams if god forbid Foster or Rice went down.
We led the AFC in sacks with 48, 33 of which came at home. We’re definitely built to rush the passer at least as well as anybody.
Only Philadelphia had more with 49 if I’m not mistaken.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
You have some 2 gappers on the line, we don't.
No doubt you can rush the pass, though.
Williams is serviceable, but your depth may be better. I’d rather not find out.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
To answer the next question:
Rice had 16 rushes for 47 yards deep into third or fourth the first time, so I think we can contain him.
If he gets his 101 like last time
and Foster is held to his 49 of last time, NFW Yates can pick up the slack, Andre or no Andre.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Foster was coming off an injury the last time
So 49 yds was a major anomaly and even he acknowledged that he was not 100%. This time, things will be different. He gets 100+, I will predict. That keeps us in the game, so TJ won’t have to do more than necessary but will still need to make key completions and no TO’s.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
Foster wasn’t productive because the Ravens defensive line closed all the holes and defended the cut-back lanes perfectly. Healthy or not, Foster isn’t going to be very productive if his offensive line cannot have more success than they did last time.
I’m not meaning to trash talk. That’s just what I saw in the last game.
Well...
The thing about Foster is that he does better in his second games against certain opponents. Like the Bengals game in the regular season. He only had 41 rushing yards in the regular season match up, but in the post season, he had 153 rushing yards. I’m hoping that in his next match-up against the Ravens, he’s able to produce like that. And the Bengals D-line isn’t that weak, either.
You don’t talk trash. You talk football. That’s what I like about your posts. I appreciate them.
I've got nothin'...
An Alternative Theory
Is home vs. away. First time, Foster is in Cincy- noise, communication issues, etc. Second time, he is home. A substantial difference.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
That's a good point...
Didn’t think about that in my analysis. Might be harder for Arian to run in another team’s home field. We’ll have to watch Sunday to find out :D
I've got nothin'...
The Bengals run D really dropped off late in the season.
First of all, Foster may not have run well against the Bengals, but your team ran for 144 and 5.1 YPC. Looks pretty good to me. Tate had a pretty good day (8 for 64+) as did Yates (5 for 35+).
I remember reading that the Bengals were actually jumping back into padded practices before the Wild Card game. Hensley (pretty much everyone on here will tell you that he’s an awful reporter, so we should probably take what he thinks with enough salt to keep preserve a steak for the winter) posited that it was due to their lack of physicality against the run. Peko does say that they were first overall in rushing defense at some point this season. I thought they were, which would give credence to their run d falling off late, but I have no way of proving that short of crunching a shit ton of numbers.
However, as evidence for your theory, all the teams that the Bengals played twice [Browns (weeks 1 & 12), Steelers (weeks 10 & 13), Ravens (weeks 11 &17)] showed significant improvement in their running games the 2nd time around (Browns: 3.2 to 4.5 YPC, Steelers: 3.5 to 4.1 YPC, Ravens: 3.8 to 6.9 YPC).
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
It boils down to having film to be able to make adjustments, I think.
When you have time to analyze your team vs. the other team from a game during the season, you can make improvements that normally you couldn’t make with tape from other teams.
At least, that’s what I’m going to go with as a Texans fan lol.
I've got nothin'...
Well,
Pitt: 66 yards, 4.1 YPC in game 1. 70 yards, 3.5 YPC in game 2.
Cincy: 119 yards, 4.0 YPC in game 1. 105 yards, 4.5 YPC in game 2..
Cleveland: 59 yards, 3.5 YPC in game 1, 117 yards, 4.7 YPC in game 2.
Small sample, but it looks like the Texans should improve upon 93 yards, 3.7 YPC.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
What would you attribute it to?
Opponents having tape to study, Ravens not playing up their potential or studying hard enough, etc?
Granted, it’s definitely a small sample, but with Cincy thrown in there, it doesn’t make it certain that the Texans will improve their running stats vs. the Ravens.
I've got nothin'...
Not sure.
If I were extremely interested (and not currently in school), I’d expand the sample size to see if it’s random variation. Maybe an offseason project.
While Cincy didn’t improve their net yardage, they gained that yardage on fewer plays (mainly, they broke a 30 yard TD run).
As a disclaimer, the first time we played Cincy and Cleveland, Ray did not play.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
49 for Foster and 101 for Rice spells disaster, I agree.*
*Barring multiple pick 6s and/or ST TDs. =D
One very legit concern I have
Is punt coverage. It is not the bee’s knees.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
According to Harbs
They spent a lot of time on ST this week. The Texans returner(s) escape me at the moment so forgive me if I do not know if they are any good or not. But ST coverage does scare me for Sunday.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Returners...
Punt: Jacoby Jones
Kick-off: Danieal Manning(won’t need to run it out much considering the new kickoff spot)
The thing about Jacoby is that he doesn’t move upfield when he gets the ball. He goes left and right a LOT. And it ticks me off. Yeah, he’s looking for a hole, but if he doesn’t find it, he gains almost no yards. So the way to stop him is by ensuring there are no holes for him, and he’ll be practically stopped in his tracks.
I've got nothin'...
Thanks!
Appreciate the info.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
You got it, dude...
Be sure to laugh your ass off when you see exactly what I’m talking about with Jacoby Jones… IF you guys have to punt at all during the game, that is.
I've got nothin'...
I still remember
in HS when a friend of mine predicted Jones would be the breakout player of the year. That was….5 years ago I think.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Does your friend regret that call?
Jones isn’t bad, in all honesty, as a WR. But he’s mediocre at best. Lacks the mental fortitude and hands to be great, it seems. His PR this year has been great. But years past… yeesh. I would’ve rather seen a big fat drunk out there.
I've got nothin'...
Oh, We
Will most definitely punt, if Cam has anything to say about it…
Glad y’all like and appreciate your OC. Watch our play calling and understand what it is like to have some legitimate offensive weapons and have your coordinator go all Pee-Wee Herman on you. I guess up until Wade arrived, it was a similar situation to your defensive side.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Don't get me started on Frank "I can't coordinate my clothes" Bush.
I don’t think our OC really does much, though. You never hear his name brought up in conversation. Seems like Kubiak is the one calling the offensive shots while Wade calls the defensive shots. Almost like a co-head coach. It works really well for the team.
You guys seem to hate Cam as much as we hated Bush.
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You guys seem to hate Cam as much as we hated Bush.
The Cameron hate is something that I cannot completely understand. He has had some bad games, but he was very good in 2008-2009. In 2010, the Ravens didn’t have a good pass-blocking tackle on the roster after Gaither went down, so that killed the offense. You cannot really blame Cameron entirely for 2010 because I think things could have been much worse with a less talented coordinator.
This season was tough at the beginning, but what were we honestly expecting? The Ravens cut all of the steady receivers that Flacco was used to throwing to. An adjustment period should have been expected. The Ravens offense has actually been pretty good over the last half of the season, and Cam has been a big part of that adjustment.
Whether people like to admit it or not, Cam is still one of the best X’s and O’s guys in the league.
I remember when I had a chance to go to training camp and stand on the sidelines—Cam was actually coaching the players on the intricacies of every play. He was not just having them run routes but teaching them X’s and O’s. Seeing how he communicated the most complex parts of football—the grabs, the cut-offs, the picks, the reads, the adjustments—to the players in a way that they could easily understand—heck, I understood it—totally change my view of Cam Cameron.
Cam Primer For Texan Fans
Cam, to his credit, is very good in game planning and his pre-game work. It is just the in-game play calling and adjustments that have made remotes through LCD screens a common sighting around Baltimore. Plus Cam hasn’t help his cause with statements such as “Audibles are overrated” and the appearance of a dysfunctional relationship with Flacco.
The other big issue, is that either through circumstance or by design, Ozzie has a built, on the offensive side, personnel more suited to a West Coast style offense yet Cam insists on running an Air Coryell system. To be fair, it is really only the passing game that is Air Coryell. The running game is actually very West Coast-eque with Rice catching and running, the zone blocking, et al.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
by vlad755 on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cam, to his credit, is very good in game planning and his pre-game work. It is just the in-game play calling and adjustments that have made remotes through LCD screens a common sighting around Baltimore.
This.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
It’s sad, but true. And he takes so long going back and forth , you have tons of time to scream “What are you DOING??”
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
And time enough to take a dump...
if you’re quick enough.
I've got nothin'...
It’s definitely the point for intermission. Out of beer, need a snack? Perfect. How can a play go on for so long and you still end up with nothing? I was trying to find some Youtube footage of it, but all they have is that great return he made.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
You could chew it over with Twix...
considering you’ll have a moment already at your disposure.
I've got nothin'...
that dude is friggin fast though.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
He is, but I think he has it in his head that he always need to go for the BIG return. Sometimes an okay return is just fine and would put us in a better position that looking for the field long run.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Jacoby Jones ranked #2 in the AFC for returns
although he gives most Texans fans regular heartburn with his frustratingly inept side to side jukes before heading north and south. When he breaks a big one, it’s usually good. Seems like 1/3 of those big breaks get called back for some other Texan doing something stupid (like hitting a guy from behind despite being told since he was seven years old to never do such a thing).
It’s too far and few between for us to ever count on in a game plan.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Kick the ball out of bounds.
Don’t let Jones beat you on ST, it’s probably the only way he factors into the game.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I would respectfully disagree
that the Ravens won’t be able to run the ball well. Playing 5 of the top 10 teams in rushing D this season (SF, HOU, PIT, JAX, CIN) the Ravens (Ray Rice) produced 3 games with over 100 yds on the ground. And the truly impressive number for me is that the Ravens went 6-1 against those teams.
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by Dynamo38 on Jan 12, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
good stats bro.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
The QB’s will not be the difference in this game. The difference will be who controls the line and runs the ball better.
Dead wrong. Flacco has played in 7 playoff games. The first three he was a rookie and played as such. The next two, in 09, he was so injured after the week 17 game that he couldn’t sit down on the flight back from Oakland. That led to him attempting a mere 10 passes against New England and being utterly useless against Indianapolis. Then, last year, he played a great game against KC and got flat out beat by the Steelers (who he exercised his demons against the following season).
If you don’t think there is a considerable difference between Flacco and Yates, consult a physician.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
All im saying is that both QB's are there to game manage and not turn the ball over
Both teams will rely on defense and the running game to win, not on the QB.
We have definitely relied on Flacco to win games before. He attempted 47 passes against Pittsburgh in the second meeting and drove us down the field for the win.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Flacco is far from a game manager
Far from it and trust me, the Texans are not preparing for a “game manager,” they are getting ready to face a playoff experienced pro who can throw it all over the field to a bevy of receivers.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Have to agree with the Ravens fans. He was sick in Week 6.
He and Boldin outplayed Rice by far that game.
Texans fans are quick to point out that they have Andre Johnson in this game but seem to forget that our offense has been winning games without Anquan Boldin. I know Boldin is no Johnson, but he is HUGE for our passing game. The guy converts several third downs in every game.
Boldin has been injured hasn't he?
Not saying it will play a factor on Sunday. But it might affect his productivity a bit as opposed to the Week 6 meeting.
I've got nothin'...
They say he could have played in the WC round if the Ravens had needed him. He had an extra week to heal with the bye week. The official word is that he’s 100% and as healthy as he’s been all season.
I heard he was playing with a partially torn meniscus all season, and the surgery got it repaired. So he’s supposed to be cutting better than he did all season. One can hope.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
that's what he has said
He said he felt it influencing his play all year, which makes some sense, but he just had to run on it until it tore. (Since scoping your knee is basically just removing the torn section of meniscus, you have to wait for a real tear to do anything, surgically. I’m pretty sure my right knee is kindof in that spot right now.)
Now that he’s gotten it resolved, he said he feels better than before.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
His surgeon (Andrews) actually cleared him to play against the Bengals.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
And?
Yates did that to win at Cincy… Our offensive system is much more QB friendly so we don’t ask them to do as much as many other offensives do. Yates doesn’t have to be as good as Flacco which I agree he’s not.
Hakeem OlajuGOD
Hey… Yates is going to get violated this weekend. He won’t be able to handle it… End of story. Foster is going nowhere just like AJ
I know it.. you know it.. Stop praying for miracles and trying to pass your opinions as fact. The texans are a mediocre O and great D.
The Ravens are great on both sides. Enjoy the next couple days of throwing shit at the wall… And make sure yall come back now… Hear?
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 4:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Really?
The texans are a mediocre O and great D.
The Ravens are great on both sides.
Regular Season Ranking in NFL (from NFL.com):
Rushing Defense: Ravens #2, Texans #4
Passing Defense: Texans #3, Ravens #4
Scoring Allowed: Ravens #3, Texans #4
Yards Allowed: Texans #2, Ravens #3
Overall Defense: Texans #2, Ravens #3
Rushing Offense: Texans #2, Ravens #10
Passing Offense: Texans #18, Ravens #19
Overall Offense: Texans #13, #15
Looks pretty even to the stats with the edge going to the Texans. You guys get the edge for home field and a bye week.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
by MeMongo on Jan 12, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The stats are one side of a complex story… I don’t expect you to go too deep into that story since the superficial analysis is convenient to your predicted outcome.
Yates is going to get eaten alive when the Ravens run D shuts foster down. Stop pretending
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure how you can say your D will shut Foster down?
I’m sure you’ll point to the last game, but Foster was coming back from an injury and was not himself. He’s playing very well now.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
Yeah… Don’t mind Evan. He’s our resident troll. Calling the Texans mediocre on either side of the ball is just ridiculous.
I would agree that the Texans and Ravens are very close as far as team talent, but I think that the Texans have the misfortune of playing a team that matches up against them perfectly—on their home turf—with a rookie quarterback.
The Texans are relying on the running game and Foster more than ever, and the Ravens are one of the best run-stuffing teams in the NFL. On top of that, they may also the best team in the league at defending zone blocking schemes like the Texans run because their defensive line with Ngata is not only extremely stout but also athletic enough to flow to the ball.
It’s not like that’s speculation either. The Ravens defensive line has already proved itself versus the Texans offensive line once this season and did a remarkable job shutting them down. The health of Foster may help things a bit, but I don’t see it being a huge factor because Foster—much like Rice—isn’t a back that’s known for pushing the pile. He needs lanes to run through, and Foster’s lack of production in the last game was not the result of his health—it was because the Ravens closed all the holes in the line and defended the cut-back lanes perfectly. Therefore, that puts a ton of pressure on young Yates to beat the Ravens at home without a productive running game and is the biggest reason I really like the Ravens in this game.
by BAL_Hawk on Jan 13, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Same too ya Buddy
Can’t wait to hear from ya after Flacco Chokes it up for the umpteenth time.
You just keep praying that it doesn’t happen, again.
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Whatever makes you feel ok, my friend
KC Syndrome is crazy!
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As I've now coined
Bmore Delusional
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 12, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
A winning season and a playoff berth… A victory at home over the Bengals after a dropped pick 6.. and here you are
Sorry if you’re not being taken seriously
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 5:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Continuously coming up short in the playoffs
Should not warrant this much cockiness. You better hope your team is not as overconfident as you guys are.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
Pfft.
At least we came up short against The Forehead in the playoffs. You’d be having trouble making them if he was still here.
Disagree on this one
I think we still would have split with the Colts had Manning played, as we did last year. The Colts showed signs of decline last year, and this year their problems were obviously deeper than just having a backup QB. We’ll never know for sure, but if we had still split with Indy the record would have been the same.
by JBal on Jan 12, 2012 10:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol....fail.
WTF does the pick 6 that never happened have to do with anything?
Or are you suggesting that a score of 31-17 is any different than 31-10 in terms of advancing.
By the way, how many points did you guys put on the Bengals the week before?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
24.
And 31 when we played them at home.
Certainly a momentum changing pick 6 would have had no effect on the game. Not to mention that AJ scored his TD later in the drive that Crocker dropped the pick.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Joel Dreessen
Was literally right there, a player who is a regular on special teams and has tackles. Everybody just assumes he catches the ball, and is able to avoid a player that has an angle on him.
Yet, Texans get a pass because the Bengals dropped the ball
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
We can play "what-ifs" all day long
What if we had gotten TD’s instead of field goals in game 6? What if we had AJ and Mario all year? What if I had worn my lucky #8 jersey in game 6? What if……..
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
What if you weren't horribly eroding the point of the hypothetical?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well then...since we are playing that game....
If Baltimore had not scored more points than the Texans in the first matchup, the Texans would have won.
That is about as relevant of an argument as yours…..
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks John.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'll rec that...
Kinda flows off the tounge better than KC Syndrome.
I've got nothin'...
How dare you put a bad pun in there with a real medical condition.
I’ve had friends have to go to the hospital with KC Syndrome… it is a serious affliction.
Sorry... I was unaware.
Didn’t mean to be such an insufferable asshole to those afflicted with such a condition… I’m not insensitive, I promise!
Just never heard of it. I’ve heard of stokholm syndrome, but not KC in the medical field. :D
I've got nothin'...
What would happen if you were taken hostage by KC fans after a 9-7 season? Unfathomable.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I'd imagine I would have thought them dilusional as you guys do...
How did their season end last year? Did they clench the division in Week 14? I think that’s the main difference in why Texans fans are able to say the things they’re saying(don’t sleep on the Texans, they’re better than you think, etc.).
I've got nothin'...
that was really more of a joke than something meant to compare you to KC fans.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Yeah, I get it...
But I hope you guys are laughing because none of the BRB’ers really find it that funny. Pretty much mocking :P But wevs… not really annoying me that much anymore.
I've got nothin'...
i mean it literally had nothing to do with comparing you to KC fans. It was an attempt at slapstick humor of me envisioning KC fans with AKs holding people hostage.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
KC isn't playing you Sunday...news to you?
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
The long and the short of it, IMHO, is
that Houston will open it up on Sunday and let Yates throw deep to AJ and maybe even Jones. Just like the Broncos did with Tebow. And as the Broncos beat Pitt (although they were obviously hobbled and hurt), the Texans could possibly maybe beat the Ravens if those deep throws work. The Texan receivers are better than the Bronco receivers and their runners are betters are better than Bronco runners and TJ is better than Tebow. On the other hand, the Ravens are better and healthier than the Steelers.
It will be up to Mr. Reed to diagnose and stop those deep passes. We are in good hands.
Baltimore and Pagano are not dumb enough to put 8 men in the box all game long.
Pittsburgh lost because of a bad game plan and cockiness/a lack of respect for Tebow’s ability to throw the ball. That type of plan just won’t work against us.
Correct
No chance we plan man coverage without any safety help. Their defensive game plan hung their corners, mainly Taylor, out to dry.
Doubtful you know that
Houston will open it up and let Yates throw deep as he has been abysmal on deep passes over 20 yards (1 for 10 so far). It’s like saying we Ravens fans know what our
OC Cam Cameron will do each week, which has escaped most of us this season.
However, my good friend Ed Reed would just LOVE to see Yates throw deep on Sunday!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'm telling you, Bruce...
as well as everyone else has said. That 1 for 10 metric isn’t telling of Yates ability to throw deep to Andre. He’s only targeted Andre maybe twice on that 1 for 10. And one of those were caught. The other targets were to Jacoby mostly.
It’s not an accurate tell of his ability to throw deep to Andre(which is who he will be targetting down field all game). Trust us. We’ve been watching him play while you’re using stats from games you haven’t seen. We know why that stat is why it is.
I've got nothin'...
I still say Yates has looked a little lost at times without Andre. I think having him on the field really helps stabilize Yates.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Enjoy the playoffs, Youngbloods… They’re almost over
Signed,
KC Syndrome
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep, 3 more wins, that's it.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
You people are out of your minds!
Thanks for the laughs!
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 6:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thank you, thank you.
Please tip your waitresses.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
So if you beat the Texans
Is it considered a Winning season,To win one playoff game and then lose the next week in the Championship round?
Or is a SB appearance the only way the season ends in the fashion of non disappointment?
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
I think I speak for all of us when I say we’d be disappointed with anything less than a ring. Obviously, there’s a good chance we’ll end up disappointed, but then again our chances of getting that ring ain’t too bad either.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Us Ravens fans have been spoiled
as we are the ONLY team in the NFL to have made the post season the past four years and now expect a SB ring, nothing less, which if not, will be disappointing for Baltimore.
Conversely, a loss this weekend will be met with optimism for Houston, just like it was by Cincy.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Cincy really did well this season despite pre-season predictions.
I think they’ll be a lot better next season especially with the high draft picks. Think the Ravens will have more problems with them than the Steelers next year? (By problems, I don’t mean losses for the Ravens, just closer played games).
I've got nothin'...
At This Point
In time, it is looking like a three way split between P-burgh, Cincy and us, all beating up on the clowns. Maybe one of us three steals a game on the road against one of the other two, but I would be shocked if any of the three teams swept the other two.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
I don’t think Cincy’s gonna become a juggernaut in one year with new players, but I can see them notching 10 or 11 wins next season with the Ravens getting 12 or 13 and the Steelers getting about 10 or 11 as well.
The North is pretty stout. There’s no doubt about it.
I've got nothin'...
Agreed. It will be tough. Thanks to the Raiders for giving them an extra 1st and 2nd as well.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Also while the Browns have holes they do have extra draft picks as well from the Falcons and they do got some players to work with on their D. This division is going to be real tough to get through the next little while.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
You guys have Pitt syndrome
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Rather that than KC Syndrome
Pitt wins Superbowls…
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
One winning season… One playoff berth… One win over the Bungles at home… And now
3 more wins via Yates … Ok … ok. Ok. It took me 72 hours but I finally understand you people. You’ve never been here before… You aren’t likely to get here again soon… So why not let it all hang out even though your team is hitting the road for Baltimore! You’d say the same things if your team was headed to heaven to face st Pete… Woooooooo!
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No no, they face Tebow and his uncle NEXT week...
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Not likely to get here again?
That’s some dilusional speaking there. You know the division the Texans play in right? The only team next year that will honestly compete for the division against the Texans will be the Titans. Mark that down. It’ll be a race. But if the Titans manage to win the division next season, the Texans will be a wild card.
The Texans are built for future success with all the rookies playing some great football. Also, our team is fairly young overall. Granted, we’ll probably lose Mario over the off-season, but Reed has played well enough to predict some success in his position.
I've got nothin'...
Read Bal Hawk’s comment up there. Then never reply to Evan Skev/bshagagi again. It is a waste of time, I promise.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
by FrankWyt on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, I'm guessing he's a more eloquent version of BRB's banned Bo$$man...
Ignore the troll. Got it. And thanks :D
I've got nothin'...
that's my thoughts as well
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Assuming
All Texans back healthy next season, the AFC South is there’s to lose for the next few years. We could very well see the Texans in the playoffs again and again…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
You know the division the Texans play in right? The only team next year that will honestly compete for the division against the Texans will be the Titans. Mark that down. It’ll be a race. But if the Titans manage to win the division next season, the Texans will be a wild card.
I don’t think there’s a chance you guys get the wild card if the Titans win the division. That’s because I don’t see them getting more than 9 wins. However, I do think you guys win the division (barring injuries) next year and probably for the next few years.
Just Noticed
Thats Leach in the background
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Different Animal
I think some people don’t remember how closely contested that game was until the last part of the 4th. Looking at the score doesn’t tell the tale. The Ravens will be faceing a much better defense than in week 6. Per Wade Phillips today, they added 30% more of his defense since that game. They have an additional 11 games of experience in Wade’s defense this go. Brooks Reed replaced Mario for the first time that game and is much better now. You can bet the gap recongnition will be more stable. Ray Ray is also going to love covering James Casey out of the back field this time around. If I were betting I put my money on the Ravens but it’s going to be close~
Hakeem OlajuGOD
Nice one Texans08. By the way, Ravens fans...check out this video.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d823f4a30/Sound-FX-Brian-Cushing
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
Last week my nephew told me he had hair on his balls…
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you a catholic priest, huh?
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 12, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Mr. Leach should have something to say about that.
I know you’re all familiar with him.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, loved Leach.
But Cush may be too fast for him. To quote your own center:
"Cushing is a guy who does a lot of things well," Baltimore center Matt Birk said. "Certainly, he plays the ‘Mike’ linebacker, but he blitzes, hits different gaps, is really good at the feet on one-on-one blocks. You know, some linebackers, once they’re blocked, they stay blocked. He’s very slippery."
And see what Ray Lewis says as well: http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/01/ravens-lb-lewis-sees-some-of-himself-in-texans%E2%80%99-high-motor-cushing/
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
I'll trust in Leach.
Worked so far.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Speed shouldn’t bother Leach. He sees a hole and he’ll just punch anyone( except his RB) who comes near it in the face. You benefited from that quite a bit last year.
Yes, our running game disappeared without Leach.
Sarcasm aside, we loved Vonta, and were sorry to see him go. He was a good pickup for you guys and I wish him the best in every game except the upcoming one.
by JBal on Jan 12, 2012 10:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Actually, here is an interesting point.
LAST YEAR, Arian Foster gained more yards per carry when Leach was NOT in the game.
Don’t know what that means, probably nothing, but it is an interesting stat.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 13, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Something tells me that for Flacco
having faced James Harrison at least twice a season for the past four years, nothing Houston throws at him will faze the kid.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
When Leach is in I'm guessing it is more of a power running situation with less chance to break one.
Without him you probably put in some TE’s and run it to the outside giving Arian Foster space to work in.
Sounds plausible enough, just a guess though.
I don't know
Leach is probably the guy most likely to make a 2nd level block that would spring the big one.
That stat is just strange. Some things are not easily explained.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Leach
Will get at least one crushing block.
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Hopefully more than that.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Flacco's
Plays against a team 2 – 3 times year, they wear yellow and black uniforms that are kind of ugly, but their LB’s are just beastly. Pretty boy above? That’s just pre-game warm-ups between Flacco and the squeeler LB’s…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Funny!
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
Hey, do you remember
MJD pancaking Shawn Merriman a few years ago!?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Before or after holding him?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
And Ray Lewis broke Mendenhall while Ngata broke Big Ben...
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Texans broke Big Ben first, this season...
I believe it was Watt that did that, too.
Ngata “breaking” Ben was catalyzed by what the Texans did to him.
I've got nothin'...
Uhh..what? What did the Texans do to him exactly?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
They sacked him five times and probably hit him on every other play. I watched that game. It was brutal.
well
I know, I remember that game too, but I thought when tuba said “Ray broke Mendenhall” he was referring to the shoulder injury in 08. That’s why I was confused as to how the Texans “broke” Ben.
Now that I think about it though, he was probably referring to that play in week one this year.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I think that was the game that prompted the Steelers to call and re-sign Max Starks—maybe the best descision that they made all year. Ben wouldn’t have lasted the season without him… He barely did with him.
Lol
Trust me, I remember it. It was a the last straw in the ridiculousness that was our offensive line this year. Signed him a couple days after. So…thanks Texans. Even though the season didn’t end in a SB win, it’s all good. The Steelers overachieved this year in my eyes. But I suppose more importantly, Ben is still alive
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
personally
I was amazed at Starks’ level of play in our rematch this season. He shut Suggs down. But, not to be denied, Suggs found a way to influence that game. DPOY!!!!!
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I think it’s the match-up. Suggs said—before the Steelers re-signed Starks—that he was one of the hardest tackles that he’s played against. Some players just match-up well versus others.
True, Houston did beat the steeelrs at home 17-10
but the Ravens beat them TWICE, 35-7 and 23-20 in THEIR house. Please do not try to compare THAT!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
huh? What does that have to do with what they’re saying? He’s comparing Suggs vs Starks and Suggs vs asshole who’s name I’ve forced out of my memory.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Shall I remind you?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
While that was a great play by Suggs, it was more a retarded play by Ben. If teams we don’t play a lot know when that play is coming, why on Earth would they think a team we see 2-3 times a year wouldn’t know? I pretty much saw that coming. It sorta played out in my mind the instant before it happened.
As far as DPOY, i don’t know, it’s a tough race. It will probably go to someone with gaudier stats.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Unfortunately
You may be correct about DPOY.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Yeah, it wasn't intentional...
But in the 4th quarter when the Steelers were trying to get down the field, Watt was pushed into Ben and hurt his foot.
I've got nothin'...
He left the game in a boot
Check out this youtube compilation of our defense up to game 10. If you like seeing Ben get thrashed, fast forward to 1:24.
If you just love big hitting defensive action (and as a fan of the team who set the standard in big hitting defenses I have to think this applies to you), just watch the whole thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQXGMqmI2s
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Hey, here in Baltimore
we love solid defenses and the reason Houston is so successful this season is that they are actually modeled after the Ravens.
Imitation is the best form of flattery!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
That's where we all have common ground for sure.
Actually a few places. Houston fans tend to hate the Steelers due to the Oilers history with them.
But big hitting, smothering defenses are what really excite many of us. Again the Ravens have been the gold standard there for over a decade. It’s a compliment to even be considered in comparison, and thankfully the Texans are shaping up there with Wade and some good players.
They say high scoring offenses sell tickets and TV ratings, but crushing defenses win championships. I have to agree.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I concur...
The Ravens have been the cream of the crop when it comes to defenses. I like that a lot of the pundits(now as opposed to a few days ago) are starting to say the defenses are fairly closely matched in style. Anyone who says they don’t appreciate the Ravens defense is seriously ill in the head.
I've got nothin'...
same game where Texans LT Duane Brown fractured James Harrison's orbital socket
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
That is one fugly dude
on his way out of the league. Was worthless against Tebow. Loved it!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
it hurts me to know that he is making more money than soooo many people that are good at their jobs.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Worse than Ole? Is that possible?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
So was Cousins.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Ngata broke Big Ben last year.
And nothing you did can compare to the Week 1 beatdown this year. That game…
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Ok. I think we should ask the guy for clarification of what “broke” means. And I don’t remember hearing Ngata’s name once in the three games from last year.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Wasn't last year
the game where he broke Ben’s nose?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
well yeah, but he didn’t miss any time did he? Maybe a play?
So I guess I do remember hearing his name at least once. Forgot about the nose thing.
But yeah, when I see “broke” someone, I think "injured and knocked them out for awhile.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I figured he meant literally broke.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Not comparing the week 1 game to the texans v. steelers match up...
Ravens dominated that game up and down the field(almost like the texans did vs. the titans 41-7). Felt good to exercise those demons.
My “break” was actually talking about injuring him to the point he needed a boot to walk.
I've got nothin'...
Well that's interesting...
a double post where the second post controls the first as well…
Said it didn’t post the first time.
I've got nothin'...
Welcome to the Beatdown!
And the surplus East German gear that it runs on-!
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Is that the stuff that the SS created?
Holds up reasonably well.
Truth be told, I’ve always enjoyed the whole mythology behind the Germans creating super soldiers and such… like the Wolfenstein video game series. Pretty cool stuff. Especially given the whole Nickloi Tesla tie in. I should read up more on it :)
I've got nothin'...
Naw...
Just an old IT joke about crappy IT equipment being from the old East Germany; as in, when the Berlin wall came down, the (former East) Germans were able to sell their old, worn out used equipment on the open market now.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Ah... must be a REALLY old IT joke.
But it makes sense given the context. I figured it had something to do with something similar to that. But held out hope that it might have had something to do with Heinrich Himmler.
I've got nothin'...
Well
I am a really old IT guy… :)
Well, relative to a lot of the posters on these boards I am “old”. But Bruce is by far the oldest. You want to talk about old, that guy talks about all the games he saw Unitas play in person – that’s old-! (Just kiddya Bruce!)
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Too bad the fans don't get to play the game. Would be fun.
Looking forward to Sunday.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
Ravens fans won't be playing but they'll have an impact
M&T somehow flies under the radar when the lists come out for best home field advantage but the players know better. Don’t think it will be even louder with this being the playoffs. Should be fun and wish I could be there…
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt it will be rocking.
Reliant is far louder due to the roof being closed.
It is an acoustical certainty, please no silly rebuttals.
M&T will be cray loud though, no doubt.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think they fly under the radar at all...
I’ve heard on the radio and everywhere else this week about how M&T is one of the toughest places to play(outside Qwest and the Super Dome). That’s credit to the fans of the Ravens.
I've got nothin'...
Love the smugness here.
Obviously, there is no hope for the poor, little Texans.
Ravens fans think so: must be true.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Anyone can lose this wknd… No one has guaranteed a victory
I understand the excitement from a fanbase that is accustomed to failure but have some respect for yourselves…
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 6:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't talk about your fanbase like that
It’s not nice. And yes, almost everyone is guaranteeing a Ravens victory. Just look around.
"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.
I've seen very few Namaths around here.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen maybe two or three definite predictions in that direction...
And maybe two or three for the Texans as well. Don’t get so hyped up over a couple of homers. Every fan base has got them and you just feed the flames when you react the way both sides teem to be doing. Just remember that the Texans are a young(er) franchise that has to prove themselves before the really earn respect. Nothing personal.
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
*seem (not teem)
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
He's too reasonable!
Burn him!
by JBal on Jan 12, 2012 10:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That fat kid in the back is way too excited about this.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
No way dude...
they get to break out the largest scales for that shit. There’s no such thing as over excitement when you get to use his largest scales.
I've got nothin'...
You do realize that the arguments mostly started from Texans fans coming in here talking shit about Flacco and saying they are gonna pull off the upset right? Yeah I at least, (not speaking for the whole blog here) and a smug asshole, but don’t come here acting high and mighty man.
As favourites we have the right to say we’re the better team and should win this.
Las Vegas favorites, sure, which means nothing when the teams get on the field
Like a favorite has never been beaten. A better team. They always win, don’t they? Better. Ha! I think you have many reasons to fear the Texans. They will be bringing it this Sunday. They don’t stop coming and that is a quote from the Texans adversaries this season. That is not self-coined. They don’t stop coming!
Beledat!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Bungles were last wknd… Beledat… Yeah
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ravens fans tnk they are the only ones who have pulled for a playoff team
They seem to think all the Texans fans got dropped onto the planet ten years ago when the franchise started and that none of us lived elsewhere and pulled for Superbowl teams, or were here in the Oiler days.
The face of the AFC is changing. Out with the pompous old (Colts, Steelers, Ravens) and in with the new.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
in with the arrogance
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
True arrogance has been displayed here plenty from your side of the fence this week and Mongo’s comment right there is a shining example.
I might agree with the Indy statement, but Balt and Pitt not remaining dominant? That’s fucking laughable and absurd. Balt has had sustainable success because we draft almost better than anyone, and that trend won’t end, maybe for another one or two decades seeing as we just retained our GM in waiting who’s been here since ‘96. That dude got offers from 4-5 winning franchises and chose to stay here for a job he’s been waiting for 17 years. That says something.
As for Pitt, if they wise up and draft some o linemen and stockpile those bastards, they’ll continue their winning ways. I can’t believe I’m sticking up for Pitt here, but you guys are fuckinh nuts.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 12, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
True arrogance is saying that Ravens fans should not show confidence in their team for just because they say x, y, and z then turn around and say x, y, and z about the Texans.
So far we’ve established that both teams have top-notch defenses that won’t quit on a play, both teams have young QBs with something still to prove to the naysayers, and both teams have a ridiculous running game. Texan fans say Andre is the difference but the guy has been back for two games and still needs Yates to air it out to be effective and the HAVE TIME to do so with Suggs and co bearing down on him in a hurry. Ravens fans say that experience is key but it really depends on how the Texans play early. If they come out hot that experience is worthless. Ravens have home-field, the only real advantage for either side from the looks of it. In other words, this game favors the Ravens (as it should) but depends on too many factors to be called a done deal.
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I am calling a coin flip
The only senario that would surprise me, is if the Texans were to win by double digits. That would be an absolute surprise. I think the Ravens can win anywhere from one to double digit range on sunday.
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 12, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
and your wife/mom just called me
/Back to the real world
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
There you go again
The internet is no place for realistic viewpoints!
by JBal on Jan 12, 2012 10:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pittsburgh
Has had one of the longest playoff droughts in the history of the NFL. Some 25 years It just happens they are again on a crest, so I wouldn’t claim to know the future. But I would wager that Pittsburgh like all other great teams will come tumbling down to be built up later.
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
So you’re saying you don’t think new blood can ever be introduced into the “top dogs” of the NFL. Look at where we brought our defense between last year and this year. And that’s without Mario and Johnson for most of the year. And on offense we’re playing with our 3rd string. I don’t think it makes sense to think that we don’t have the ability to be formidable next year.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
How was Mario doing at OLB before he got hurt? I only saw a small sample in which he looked lost.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
Ummm…checks his stats. He was doing just fine. 2 sacks in the first game, 2 sacks in the 4th game. We lost him in the 5th, but he had a sack there too. Not too shabby for a guy just transitioning from defensive end to outside linebacker.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yeah Gotta
Agree here. Mario is a frickin’ beast. He could line up anywhere and be lights out. He can probably kick 60 yard FG’s…
I remember all the “controversy” surrounding Houston’s pick of Mario first overall. I think the Texans knew what they were doing all along.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Agreed. I will admit I was like what are they thinking? But they definitely made the right pick other than Bush or Vince.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I agreed with it at the time. I thought Bush and Young had bust written all over them. I didn’t necessarily think Williams was a great number 1 pick, but compared to the choices, I thought he was the best available.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
That’s not bad at all. I’m not trying to rag on Mario, I just saw some plays where he was lost in coverage, and had issues defending the run while he was standing up presnap.
I just thought he looked better as a 4-3 DE, than a 3-4 OLB.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
If you’re the WLB in a 34, you can usually avoid putting the guy in coverage. If it’s a passing down and you’re not rushing Mario, you need to kill yourself.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
Wade is staying. Well, at least he isn’t doing the interview today. That’s a start.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
That’s so true, but it also shows you the strength of having a weak-side OLB like Suggs that can trick the offense and sneak into the flat or underneath coverage.
How many passes have we seen Suggs intercept (or nearly intercept) because the quarterback doesn’t expect him to drop into coverage? I think it’s less and less as the years go by because other teams watch film too, but it still adds a ton of versatility to the Ravens defense.
Well, you’ve got to give him a little time to adjust, lol. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
And another thing….how the hell are the Ravens, as an organization, pompous? What have they done to the Texans to deserve to be called ‘pompous’? Sorry that they won all those games against you! Sheesh.
I’m going to laugh if/when Indy takes Luck 1st overall, then trades Peyton for a fuck ton of draft picks to rebuild that mess up. If Luck really is as good a QB as Peyton was coming out of college, like most people think he is, I’d be riding high now too. This season might be your only chance.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Jan 12, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm almost okay with fans being called pompous
You are supposed to believe your team can do anything. But to call the Ravens organization pompous is a joke (and a bad one at that). Say that about the Patriots, but not the Ravens. And before anyone makes the “T-Sizzle talks shit all the time argument,” please remember that there’s a difference between being pompous and being confident. Confidence is knowing that you can do something, pompousness is feeling you are entitled to be given something. The Ravens players back up their talk and the front office and coaches don’t talk negative about their competition. Ever.
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
The Colts not having Manning doesn’t change how good our defense is. Our defense is good based on how they’ve played all year against everyone (including the Steelers and you, who scored most of your points in the game this year with field goals). Wade has made a difference. Sure, not having the Colts around maybe helped us. Maybe we’d still be here. What if doesn’t matter. We are here and now you have to deal with us on Sunday.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yeah, time to dump the old Ravens
Other than Ray, Ed and perhaps JJ, the team is among the youngest in the league.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
The new what…? Humor me
Peyton gets hurt… Texans back into the playoffs and you all are typing away on the internetz like you won the conference. You’ll have more respect for Baltimore football on Sunday… And then even more when you have your 9th losing season out of 11
In the meantime, enjoy yourselves… Have a beer and some bbq
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gotta disagree on this one too
The Texans didn’t “back into the playoffs”, they won their division in week 14 with a 10-3 record, then backed off the gas to protect their rookie QB and the few key players who hadn’t been lost to injury.
I will take you up on the beer and BBQ though.
by JBal on Jan 12, 2012 10:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Don't expect those teams to go anywhere.
The Colts maybe, but Pitt and Bal will be there for a bit yet. Your best hope is that they beat each other up. And if we’re talking pompous and old, how can you forget NE?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 12, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hard to imagine but...
The AFC North has a three way battle for the next few years. Only team I see possibly dropping off is the Steelers but they rarely ever do so for mor than a season or two while they rebuild. Big Ben is starting to get old though. Not long before those numerous injuries start taking their toll on his long-term health.
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
They went 3-1 last year with scrubs playing QB
The can win without Roethlisberger as long as they stay far away from Tebow.
by JBal on Jan 12, 2012 10:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ben Is
Far from Old. He may be aging, but he is not old. Unfortunately he will torment us for at least five more years.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
A (large) part of me
is hoping that his years of invincibility are catching up to him.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I think you will start seeing major drop offs in mobility in the next 2 years if they don’t fix that line and fast.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
That stress fracture in his foot has been showing the last couple seasons, and those things never fully heal.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
Of course,
as soon as BB is done, Dixon will step up and own us.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
He's not old but I don't think he has 5 years left in him.
Not playing like he does now. If he transitions into more of a pocket passer and gets a half decent O-Line he can last, but he won’t be doing it for much longer if he keeps getting hit like he has the last few years.
I am Assuming
That P-burgh will get around to addressing their O-line woes at some point. They just can’t keep going like they are going -that would just be crazy stupid as yes, I agree, Ben would develop an uncontrollable drooling problem eventually the way things are going…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Seriously, dude is tough and if he wasn't so hard to like I'd really feel bad for him.
He’s been left to dry and has the weight of expectations on him.
Teh smack...
it burnnnssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Kinda funny…a little sad… And then every one of you disappears more quickly than you appeared
by Evan Skev on Jan 12, 2012 9:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I will give them the fact that they talk almost as much as the Steelers fans on this blog. It’s a good change of pace yet almost exactly the same kind of arguments (minus the history to back it up, of course).
WWRLD (What Would Ray Lewis Do)
by tubamatt7688 on Jan 12, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
What is going on in your head man? I read this blog quite often. I almost NEVER see Steelers fans except for a few, and none of them are ever starting shit. Not even before the Denver game. What is it with your entire organization/fanbase? No one ever loves you, no one ever respects you, all the trolls desperately want to waste their time on you. Seriously, where does this come from?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
You know where to find us.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Cheering the Colts
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
yep
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
what about the self response of “you’re so smart <3”? I liked that the best personally
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
hahaha yeah that was actually pretty funny. I need to create a second avatar just to compliment myself and rec my own posts.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
by jackmca on Jan 13, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
by my calculations
the probability of that is equivalent to:
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
by jackmca on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I’m pretty sure he’s got a new name by the way. You’ll find out soon enough which one it is.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
did he get banned again?
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I don’t think so, that’s what makes it so weird. I think it’s the “alter-ego” that lets him do the things the site mod warned him not to do.
Of course, I can’t be 100% positive, but I’m pretty sure. We’ll see.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Best pic I've seen in a while
Rec’d
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
That couldn’t possibly be it Jazzy…it has to be me posting under different names.
I wonder where pitt players are playing golf this wknd
by Evan Skev on Jan 14, 2012 5:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But you can't see his half-centaurness in that picture.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
What gets lost in this post
And seems to be over looked in the Yates / Shaub argument by most Texans fans on this post , is this article’s underlying premise was the drop off in accuracy between TJ and Shaub especially in deep throws.
Wether the game plan was scaled back or not, the % of deep throws made, what matters is the deep and intermediate throws that were completed.
The Raven’s bend don’t break defense s based off of allowing all of the underneith offense until about their own 35 yard line and shrinking the field.
TJ maybe better at scrambling, cone drills and throwing the ball a long distance. Wether Tj’s game plan’s were as wide open or not, the fact of the matter is he isn’t as accurate as Shaub was and there for the Andre X factor won’t exsist.
The Ravens D fense was beat over the top by Rivers because there was no pressure, and the recievers were tall and fast enough to expoilt a rookie CB. Based off of Yates completion % for throws over 20 yards Andre may catch a deep ball or two, but the inability to stech the feild will be due to TJ’s inability to complete the pass to an open or cover AJ.
Back to "topics that go in circles"
Reading summary stats between two quarter backs instead of actually watching them play the game does not provide the comparison. Receivers have to catch footballs for it to be a completion. Most of those deep passes by Yates were to our far inferior receivers (not ’Dre), but even ’Dre dropped a perfect pass in the last game in the end zone. ’Dre slammed his helmet down (very uncharacteristic of him by the way) on the sidelines afterward. He later caught another deep (40 yard) pass for a TD.
TJ has a stronger and more accurate deep pass than Schaub. I’ve never missed attending a home game, and I assure you of this one fact. Also, I don’t hate Schaub and do hope he returns to 2007-2009 form when he is back in 2012. I am also no Yates fanboi. I’m just stating that TJ has put the ball deep very well in practice and in games. He can’t help the receiver (aka Jacoby “no hands” Jones) haul them in unless he coats the ball in Lester Hayes goopy “Stickum”. Again, even the great Andre Johnson dropped a perfect deep pass.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Schaub's experience
on knowing when and where to throw it blows away anything Yates does. His arm strength is irrelevant in this argument. Kyle Boller has an insanely strong arm! Who? Yean, I know…
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
its is far from irrelevant
because andre johnson will be playing. if they throw it up to him, i like his chances over a 5-9 CB anyday
the mobility helps imo as well in this game
@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd
You only get experience from playing. Yates is more maneuverable than Schaub. Of course, I’d feel great going into this game with Schaub (and Mario), but we have what we have and I feel pretty good about it. Yates can make nice passes, we’ve seen him do it, and every game he plays gives him more confidence and more knowledge. He has made excellent plays for us under tremendous pressure…the clutch TD with only seconds to go in the Cincy game where we clinched and he did well for us in a playoff game that had to have him nervous as heck. Yes, your D will be bringing more physical pressure than the Bengals, but Yates has already proven he can deal with mental pressure. And going into this game, the pressure is more on your team than ours. We close out the season with a loss and we’ve still won (since we had our first playoff game and won it). I’m not trying to say that what you’ve done as a team already isn’t impressive. I’m just saying the fans and your team won’t be satisfied unless you get the win on Sunday.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Just would like to say
Ive had a lot of fun screwing around and shootin the shit with you guys. Should be a fun game on saturday, and I think we can all agree whomever wins better beat the piss out of the pats/tebows and make it to the superbowl
thanks to bruce for not letting my assholeness affect him in anyway lol!!!
The pressure is ALL on you guys. CANT WAIT
@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd
Don't watch the game on Saturday...
You won’t find it. Try Sunday at noon for better chances of seeing the Ravens vs the Texans…
:D
I've got nothin'...
If Tebow wins the Superbowl, I will have lost all faith.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
and the funny thing is....
He’ll forgive you
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
by MeMongo on Jan 13, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Gotta Say
This has been my favorite week.
I’ve learned more about this weeks opponents and fans then any previous weeks.
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah... they're actually some knowledgable fans.
I’ve enjoyed the discussion this week more than I have any other week.
Bros 4 lyfe!
I've got nothin'...
Well, teams like the Cowboys and Steelers have so many fans all over…you’re bound to come across the ones who can only say: “My team is going to win because that’s just what they do. Period. End of discussion.”
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Some of their fans are downright analysts who I appreciated this week
I wonder if the MCM will ever have more than meth heads posting next year.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Yikes (re: MCM)
I thought we were pretty bad with our characterizations of residents of Western PA…
I guess Tennessee is as Tennessee does…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 13, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
!
I would like to think of myself as an educated man. But, wow, that was way beyond anything I could have possibly imagined. I remember having a vague recollection about the Titans and the infighting and Zeus defeating them, but obviously the teacher left a few, uh “details” out…
Great video!
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Agreed. While there has been a ton of arguments and a few heated exchanges there has been some real good back and forth. The great thing is we will get the answer to all these questions on sunday. Texans definitely are a solid team and I don’t expect this to be the last time we see each other in the playoffs.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I could see over the next 3 or 4 years...
Meeting up at least 2 times. Could potentially build a nice little(friendly) rivalry.
The discussion definitely started off on the wrong foot, which might inadvertently have been my fault. But once the tones of both sides started morphing a bit, we started talking about football. You guys are great in my book(although starting out, I was a bit miffed).
Usually my mind gets changed in the wrong direction. You guys changed it in the right. It’s a good feeling.
I've got nothin'...
lol all good. I was the same way, but as the week progressed the real fans stuck around and you guys aren’t a bad bunch. Definitely would be a fun out of division rivalry. The Jets have been our biggest out of division rivalry, but the way they have been imploding they probably won’t be much fun anymore.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Considering the editor's fascination with TJ Yates...
I’d consider trading him to Baltimore if Flacco implodes on Sunday. That’s how much I’ve enjoyed it here.
U mad, Bruce?
Sure we could use a new practice squad QB jk lol
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
We can always trade him again for Doug Dutch.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Not so great player.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'd dub him Dougle Dutch...
If he ever doubles anything… Who the heck is that, anyway? Never heard.
I've got nothin'...
What we traded John Beck away for.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that’s a glaring blemish on raven’s checkered history. He predicted Beck would be a gamer in Washington. I was like “riiiiiiiiiiiiight.”
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
I'm not familiar with him, but you should see some of the blunders the Texans have made in personnel
In fact, that’s a huge reason the fans have been so impatient. We’ve rebuilt this team twice in ten years, and six years ago it was a scorched earth rebuild keeping pretty much only Andre Johnson.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
You guys did a great job this year though. Manning and Joseph were excellent pick ups and you had a great draft as well. Many of us were praying by some divine miracle JJ watt would fall to us. That dude is everything you could ask for in a D end.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
It wasn't a blunder.
Surely you’ve heard of John Beck? He was getting cut. He got traded for a scrub DB.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Jan 14, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
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