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2011 Ravens. Sooo many questions, still few answers...

  The Baltimore  Ravens preseason came to an end Thursday night in Atlanta and many fans were left unsatisfied. After enduring a lock out spanning over 4 months the good fans of Baltimore were hoping to have some of their questions answered in the four preseaseason games leading in to the 2011 NFL season. Who will be the Ravens 3rd receiver? Will the O-line hold up against NFL caliber competition? Is Joe Flacco Ready to take the next step towards leading this team to the promised land? Does Rickey Williams have enough left in the tank to be a viable option when Ray Rice needs a rest? Who will be our opening day Cb tandem? Can Bryant McKinnie move his massive body to block anyone?

   Everyone seems to have an opinion on these matters but the Ravens front office seems to be content leaving these questions unanswered and open for speculation. (Ingenious marketing strategy if you ask me.) Maybe they have been waiting to see how things pan out to make their decisions or maybe they are hoping that a healthy competition will bring out the best in all players involved. However, I think management has a pretty good Idea as to who will be where in most cases. For most fans, after watching the preseason these questions loom larger than ever with the hated Pittsburgh Steelers just around the corner and looking as good as ever.

   After cutting many key veterans this off season the Ravens have done a nice job bringing in talent to fill the voids left by the highly productive players they lost. I can say that as a fan I have no idea what to expect come September 11th at M&T Bank Stadium. The most glaring questions surround the offensive line where Micheal Oher will be moving back to the right side where he excelled as a rookie. Taking his spot on the left will be big Bryant Mckinnie, who at a plump 370 lbs. will be counted on to protect Joe Flaccos blind side from the likes of Harrison and Woodley. I like the move of bringing in McKinnie but why did the front office choose to sit him the entire 4th preseason game? I think a lot of fans would have felt much better having seen him keep Tyrod Taylor upright and off  the DL. Hopefully this was only a precautionary move and not a sign that McKinnie is simply not ready for live competition.

   Perhaps the most perplexing spot on this team is in the secondary where no starters have been named at either corner position. For a team that is considered a SB contender this is almost unheard of. I have heard cases made for all sorts of combos this preseason but the duo that makes the most sense to me against the Steelers is Jimmy Smith and Cary Williams. Smith has shown to be a very physical player and a sure tackler that always seems to get a hand on the ball. He has had his ups and downs but the 6'2" corner out of Colorado has the physical tools to really make a difference for this team. On the other side I think Cary Williams has solidified himself as a starter even though he has not yet been named one. Williams has outplayed everyone so far and the coaches have acknowledged it as well. More than anything I think it is time to see some new guys take a crack at the Steelers this season. We have seen what Fox, Carr and Webb can do against Big Bens receiving corps. and it isn't pretty.

   Adding Lee Evans to Joe Flaccos arsenal was an excellent move and he will do wonders for an offense that has been missing a legitimate deep threat for years. Anquan Boldin should benefit from this the most. If teams decide to double Evans Boldin is a master at getting open over the middle of the field. and if the defense brings a safety to his side Evans has the speed and hands to make them pay deep on the other. But, Who will the Ravens third option be? David Reed seemed to have the position locked up for about a week. Before that it was Torrey Smith. Both seem to have come up with a sudden case of the dropsies lately. The Ravens will most likely run packages that feature different receivers at different times depending on the situation and what the other teams weakness may be. My vote however goes to Tandon Doss. He may not have the speed of a Reed or Smith but the guy catches everything in sight and was a straight play maker in college.

   Perhaps my 2 biggest question marks this preseason are Joe Flacco and Ricky Williams. After hearing Cam Camerom rave about how sharp Flacco has looked in camp it was back to "good Joe" and "bad Joe" in the limited time he got in the preseason contests. Joe has always been a guy who seems right on the cusp of greatness if it were not for those few boneheaded plays every so often. So far this year it has looked like more of the same. Granted he has been playing with a makeshift offensive line and a group of receivers that he is still gelling with but wouldn't it stand to reason that he and the offense would have benefited from playing at least a few snaps against the Falcons Thursday? Especially since they had their starting D on the field. Ricky Williams is a seasoned vet. I'm sure he is used to walking through preseason and turning it up on game days but I haven't seen a burst from him yet. I think his longest carry may be 5 yards. He has not played much, I may be overreacting but I hear all these fans talking about how he is an upgrade over Willis McGahee and I'm not sold. McGahee played well for the Ravens, he was a touchdown machine. Some of the most memorable plays over the last few years were from Willis. I admit I have not payed much attention to Williams since he came back to the league. He had over 1,000 yards in 2009 I believe but I guess we will all have to hope he can still bring it this season at the ripe old age of 34. Which is pretty old for a RB.

    all of these questions will be answered in the coming week. I'm sure some will work out and some won't but it sure is a different feeling from past years when the good old boys were in camp and we all knew what to expect on Sundays. I'd have to say at this point I'm cautiously optimistic about this team even with uncertainty surrounding Key positions. Ozzie and Co. have done a nice job of finding cheap high reward players to fill the void left by those who were cut. Man... What a way to start a season though!

Poll
What do you think the Ravens biggest question heading into the season is?
How much does Ricky have left?
2 votes
Does Joe take the next step?
48 votes
Who will be the starting corners?
12 votes
Will Bryant McKinnie deliver his baby in time to start the season at 350 lbs.?
33 votes
Who will be the Ravens 3rd wide out?
4 votes

99 votes | Poll has closed

The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!

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RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
Hearing Marc Bulger has decided to stay retired at this time, but told Ravens he would be interested in case of emergency if Flacco got hurt

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Sep 3, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn

If he really means that he would play if Flacco is hurt, then he needs to be holding the damn clipboard now. You need to at least get in some kind of football shape and get your timing with the receivers down.

But think this confirms (1) Ozzie had Bulger on his speed dial, and (2) Ozzie is not planning to go into the season without a vet back-up.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Sep 3, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just saw this too…

RavensInsider Aaron Wilson
I’m old that it was offensive coordinator Cam Cameron who contacted Marc Bulger to gauge his interest in coming out of retirement.

How hurt are you Tyrod?

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Sep 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys now have what it takes to beat

the Steelers. I predict by mideseason you’ll all be nicknaming Lee Evans “The missing link.”

by The Key Maker on Sep 7, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Doss should be the #3 guy right now. If not him, L. Williams.

Our game plan should be putting Pitta and Dickson out there a lot with Evans and Boldin. That package with Rice and Leach is going to cause the most match up problems.

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Sep 3, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. I feel Doss is the most ready out of the young guys and I feel Pitta is too talented to leave on the bench. I hope they figure out how to get all these guys some playing time.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Sep 3, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the Idea of having Pitta anf Dickson on the feild a lot together.

I truly think we have something special in those 2. That is one of the reasons I wanted us to keep Mason so much though. Imagine he he was our 3rd receiver?

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Sep 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m ready to move on from Mason and his 2.2 yac. Father age finally caught up with him.

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Sep 3, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

lets hope!

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Sep 3, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mason was Flacco's

“Crack” as he looked for him way too often and slowed down his maturation., IMHO.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 3, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just read that as well. This is how championship teams are made.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Sep 3, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Veteran Leadership

at its best.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Sep 3, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ed and Ray

want that Big Ring. And McKinnie is one of the keys to get it. Maybe even the Biggest Key (so to speak).

by Sam25 on Sep 3, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh,

He is the BIGGEST key; he is pretty much the biggest everything…

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Sep 3, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."

by jackmca on Sep 4, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about Joe

If he does take the “next step” the other voting options will be irrelevant as we wil win the Super Bowl regardless of anything else on that list.

If you ever want to do such a detailed write-up like this again, contact me and I’ll post it on the Front Page. Almost too good for just a FanPost. Thanks!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 3, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Joe is great.. the coaches need to take the next step and get away from the cheeseball doghouse & anemic playcalling… why not throw out the vert scheme with possession receivers while we’re at it

peyton would have failed under cameron and harbs system last season

by Evan Skev on Sep 4, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t blame scheme for everything though. Flacco has had more than his fair share of “holy shit did he really just do that” moments for a guy as talented as he is.

"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."

by jackmca on Sep 4, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but just like we reviewed recently with his interception against the Redskins. At first it looks obvious that its just Joe “being Joe”, but the more you look at it, the more it seems like the WR didnt come back to the ball like he should have. While Joe does make some stupid plays sometimes, so does every QB. The biggest issue I see around Joe is that the scheme and players don’t match his ability. The team hasn’t build the offense around Joe in previous years like they seem to be doing now.

Maybe with WRs that know what its like to get a ball from a crappy QB, and an O-line that could block a paper bag blowing in the wind, Joe might be able to match what we all know he can do. I just hope we stop with the goofy plays where we send our slowest guy on a Go route, and the end-arounds, and just the gimmicky plays that would have worked in the 50’s.

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 4, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

We rarely hit our receivers in stride. It’s usually catch and tackle. Hopefully this Evans guy can help Joe spread it out.

I think Cam is the worst type of OC for a strong arm QB. Cam keeps the action to close to the line and really gets bunched up against Pitt when the whole world knows to spread it way out against them.

by raven on Sep 4, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah both are really solid points. Though I think with Joe not hitting the guys in stride, that is a bit of Cam with the comeback routes and a bit on the WR for getting 0 separation just as much as Joe being slightly off target. Really on our offense, pretty much everyone is equally to blame for the issues.

But yeah, Cam seems to want to go ass backwards most of the time. Either keeping everyone within 10 yards or sending out our slowest guy for the longest route possible. Don’t even get me started on the end arounds… those haven’t worked since the 50’s and I really haven’t seen anyone do anything good off of those in the last 10 years

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 5, 2011 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I won’t let myself believe as long as the Jakovasaurus carries the O-clipboard.

by raven on Sep 6, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

rivers?

isnt rivers a strong armed QB? SD had some sick seasons with Cameron in charge, he was hailed as an offensive genius. LT2, Gates, Rivers, and VJax all had some pretty sick years there with him.http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2011/9/3/2401731/2011-ravens-sooo-many-questions-still-few-answers#

by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 5, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billick was an “offensive mastermind” and could never replicate it anywhere else. Hence why he’s doing commentary and announcing at this point in his career. I respect the guy for putting together a hell of a football team and winning us a SuperBowl, but his offenses were bust when he was here.

Cam is falling into the same boat. He had great couple of seasons in SD, but he could replicate that success in Miami (1 season, but 1 season at 1-15 tend to get you thrown out pretty fast) and here. The offense is getting better, but it seems like its in spite of what Cam calls.

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 5, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest

Billick’s “genius” at offense was having Cris Carter and Randy Moss and just letting Culpepper air it out to them when no one could contain them.

By the same token Cam had many more offensive piece in SD to work with than he did in Miami (they had jack when he came) and even hear when he first came in. We basically had McGahee, Heap and Mason and that was it with either a washed out Kyle Boller, a second year Troy Smith or a rookie Joe Flacco, that’s a bit different from having Drew Brees and then Phillip Rivers with LT, V-Jax, Malcom Flyod, Anontino Gates, etc. Cam has less to work with when he first got to Baltimore and the last three years they have been bolding the team up with plays to fill out the offense.

Building a team is process (which we fans often don’t want to hear) and to add the pieces to give the offense the potential to be a top 10 unit isn’t something that can happen over night. The years that the Chargers really took off as an offensive team were 05 and 06, the last two years he was there (and when Rivers really start to blossom as a QB).

A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!

by Christopher Atwood on Sep 6, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes but he has been a failure for us. most of us think the offense has succeeded despite him, not on account of him.

by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

pola’s sack occurred on a passing play on 2nd & 5 with 3 minutes left in the game and that was the end of the cameron era for me

good job, cam! passing on a running down really fooled them!

by Evan Skev on Sep 6, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billick was a terrible coach. A good arrogant leader but a terrible X and O coach. He single handedly cost this team a 2nd SB.

Cam, like Billick, has no feel for the game. When I think of Cam I remember his head buried in a play card as McGahee knelt on the ground in Pitt. during the 2008 Playoffs holding his mid-section. The very next play was a 3rd straight hand-off to the doubled over McGahee. What the heck was he watching. In the same game Leron was down hill running and the Steelers couldn’t stop him. What’s Cam do? Denies him the ball.

Cam’s like Norv Turner. Plenty of yard between the 20’s and then crap when you add a little pressure. They are the perfect example of tenure before talent.

by raven on Sep 6, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what I have an issue with Cam about isnt necessarily being able to put up 40 points a game. Its a lot more of calling bogus ass plays that don’t use our personelle properly. There is no reason that Boldin or Mason should have EVER run a 9 route. Yet, you see it pretty frequently, even this preseason with Boldin. He’ll call an end-around 5-6 times a season and it fails every time. He’ll take a small RB that is shifty and fast, and then force him up the middle of the line for 2 yards every time.

With Cam, its almost like he makes his playbook now, and then refuses to change a damn thing with it until next offseason. There seems to be no real gameplan for any specific team that we play. To top that, he has no killer instinct. When we get up by 2 scores, he calls draw plays and then punts like he’s afraid to screw it up somehow.

He’s had the time and players to do pretty solid things here an for the most part, the team has been progressing. However, I do think that pretty much any other OC could have done the same thing. I don’t think Cam brings anything any team worries about and that is an issue for me when he has been built up as an “offensive genius”.

If you want to really look at it, we are no better off with Cam than we were with Cavanaugh in here. That is the way most Ravens fans feel about Cam. If we don’t finish a lot better this year in offensive rank, Cam will have to look for a job elsewhere.

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

all I have to say to all that is its 2011 now . I think its time for ravens fans get over the past and focus on the now

We know what happen last year but we still made it to the playoffs with a good record which was 12-4. I think Cam Cameron is a very good offensive coordinator and right now my mind is not focus on him being the same way he was last year Cam is a human being and he makes mistake just like anybody.

I believe Cam Cameron look at his mistakes and worked hard to improve his game plan.

I don’t think Cam brings anything any team worries about and that is an issue for me when he has been built up as an "offensive genius".

that is your opinion but can you honestly name any offensive coordinator that worries other teams?

What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes

yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz

by jazz20 on Sep 16, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is your opinion but can you honestly name any offensive coordinator that worries other teams?

I don’t really know all the other OCs in the league, but the offenses that do well just focus on what weapons they have. We have a tendency to do the complete opposite.

So far in the 1 game we’ve seen, Cam is doing the right thing this year. But then again, we saw the same thing for the first few games last year when Cam seemed to be more aggressive.

I guess I’m happy with the results so far, but I’m still concerned that we get back to the issues we’ve seen before.

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 16, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the O has been completely overhauled

can you name the differences in personnel, scheme, & playcalling? I’ll help you if you don’t know

by Evan Skev on Sep 16, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But look at the first 3 games last year. We came out slinging the ball an awful lot, then it cooled off for the rest of the year. I understand that we have put in additional personnel, but Cam has a tendency to call some weird ass plays or using our guys in the worst way possible.

I like the results so far, but my issue is that Cam has done this for the past few years and I’m worries about him sliding back into that if a game doesn’t go perfect for us. Though I would love it if every game could be like last week!

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 16, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

don’t worry… the Boss said he “likes” Cameron under pressure… cam knows it’s his ass

they brought in consultants and did their homework during the offseason. there is a lot of 21 action in addition to the addition of the FB and the outside speed.

droppin a thirty burger on the titans..no doubt

by Evan Skev on Sep 16, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you think Titans put up at least 23?

since you wanted to wager the Ravens couldn’t cover a 7 pt spread?

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Sep 16, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to rub it in Evan, but I’d like to get your opinion. What the hell happened on Sunday, cause it looked like Cam brought out that old ass playbook again.

by Mstevens_Design on Sep 19, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not saying he’s been perfect… I’m saying the coaches seem to be working against him instead of with him

good point though… i hear ya

by Evan Skev on Sep 4, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats very cool man thanks!

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Sep 3, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

lastcall

this is a good post. I gave it a 3rd rec so it should hang around for a minute, but there’s a few spelling errors in there in a couple of spots it wouldn’t hurt to touch-up.

Good post though. I especially agree about Flacco.

"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."

by jackmca on Sep 4, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I give you an A on this one… keep up the good work

by Evan Skev on Sep 4, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spell check ...

is your fiend friend. :)

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Sep 5, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i did spell check actually...

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Sep 5, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you all for your very kind comments.

I plan on taking some writing classes this fall so hopefully the quality of my work will improve. I Love this site and hope I can contribute to its growth in the future!

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Sep 5, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

This was a very good post.

In my opinion, the most important thing for good writing is an original, logical idea or point of view, and this article has that.

Keep up the good work!

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 6, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I def Respect your opinion Drew!

thanks!

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Sep 7, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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