Ravens Potential Roster Cuts: Defense

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 29, 2011 5:00 PM EDT

In the previous post, we discussed and listed the possible players that could be the one to be visited by the dreaded "Turk," which is the nickname given to the guy who must call on the player to follow him to the coach's office along with his playbook for that unfortunate final conversation.

Let's list the defensive and Special Teams players who might get the notice that their time as a member of the Baltimore Ravens has come to an end:

CB: Talmedge Jackson, Danny Gorrer

DT: Bryan Hall, Derek Simmons

LB: Chavis Williams, Josh Bynes

S: Nate Williams

LS: Patrick Scales

There are a bunch of other guys, both rookies and veterans, on the defense who will not make the final roster, but their day is coming at the end of the week and thus are not on my list for the next cut, due tomorrow.

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Interesting that you don’t have Josh Victorian of Mana Silva on the above list; they have both looked pretty good this preseason, and have a decent shot. And I think Bryan Hall has a real shot at supplanting a guy like Divens. He’s had a couple sacks and QB pressures.

by JoshuaStein on Aug 29, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

I believe the above list is made up of guys he believes could be cut.

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by AV23 on Aug 29, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Uh, yes, I realize that…

by JoshuaStein on Aug 29, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Victorian started off invisible

but has come on real good and Silva has looked good from the beginning of camp. Both guys either make it or get asked to jin Practice Squad, IMO.

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by Bruce Raffel on Aug 29, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think Silva would pass through waivers. He could be really good on special teams for us, if there’s a spot available. As for Victorian, I think it will be hard to cut him, but he won’t make the final roster. He’s a perfect candidate for the practice squad.

by JoshuaStein on Aug 30, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Talmedge Jackson and Danny Gorrer are around the same level as Josh Victorian and Chykie Brown. What makes you think that they are so far behind those 2 that they are likely cuts?

by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 29, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions

Both will be victims

of the numbers game, as their playing time has been really minimal and more mop up than others. Both Victorian and Brown get tons more reps at Training Camp, from what I witnessed.

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by Bruce Raffel on Aug 29, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Plus

Jackson and Gorrer have made some Special Teams mistakes and sometimes those little mistakes are what separates one guy from the other.

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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 30, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions

i was a victim of the numbers game. last 1/4 percentile in my class. but, it gave me a more positive outlook on illegal immigration and school overcrowding.

by raven on Aug 29, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Media insight on Cary and trading Fox

"Don’t count on it," Eisenberg wrote. "The advantages of cutting cornerback Domonique Foxworth, one of the team’s highest-paid players, has been a hot topic, but it became clear in the Washington game that the Cary Williams experiment is still just that, an experiment. The Ravens would really be taking a gamble by unloading a proven veteran corner who could join the starting lineup once his rehabbed knee is ready to go, which could be relatively soon."

by Raven_all_day on Aug 30, 2011 9:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

… it became clear in the Washington game that the Cary Williams experiment is still just that, an experiment.

Did I miss something? I thought Williams played well. Filmstudy said, “Several times [Williams] had what appeared to be good coverage on a very well-thrown ball including the 14-yard completion to Gaffney (Q2, 1:49). He pried a TD away from Moss (Q2, 1:02) in the end zone.” It’s also worth noting that Williams has the highest total pre-season score of all the cornerbacks in Filmstudy’s game reviews; the pre-season scoring is more subjective than what he typically puts out for linemen during the season, but I’ll take Filmstudy’s opinion over any other Ravens analyst I can think of.

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by Ampallang on Aug 30, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions

I think they are so used to seeing crappy corner play, they don’t know what gd play looks like.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 30, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I specifically noticed the TD he prevented in Q2. I agree w/you.

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by jackmca on Aug 30, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

What are some of your guy's thoughts on McAdoo?

Do you think he makes the final 53?

Or do you think we try to stash him on the Practice Squad?

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by StuckInUtah on Aug 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

When the coaches get interviewed, they are asked about mcadoo and they say Tue same thing. He’s tall and very lean. Needs to get bigger and stronger. Ozzie and Hortiz brought him in. Nothing really to say about him.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 30, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Well we all know that the kid is a project. My question is do we put him on the final 53 man roster to ensure he doesn’t get picked up by another team? Or is the risk of losing him not even worth using a roster spot on him?

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by StuckInUtah on Aug 30, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Unless he shows a lot in pass rush…he is a PS player for now.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 30, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

From the Ravens site about McAdoo

The recent addition of Michael McAdoo clouds this position, as the promising rookie edge rusher could mean that guys like Lamar Divens and Brandon McKinney could get pushed out. McAdoo has a big week of practice ahead of him to show the Ravens’ coaches that he deserves to stick around.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 30, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Very insightful, thank you. But I like Divens & McKinney, and I don’t know if we should sacrifice either one of them for am unproven rookie, although Ozzie must have seen something in McAdoo to even bring him in here.

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by StuckInUtah on Aug 30, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

In all honesty

Unless McAdoo really tears it up, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up on IR with an injury to hide him for the season.

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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 30, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea I agree, Mckinney has play great from what I have seen. I’m kind of surprised they just gave the position to Cody, hope he doesn’t get too comfortable.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 30, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

With Talavou getting released and Gregg now in KC, we need Divens & McKinney for depth. And Cody is a ‘Bama boy, of course Ozzie will give him the starting nod (that and he’s more than earned it).

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by StuckInUtah on Aug 30, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions