Ravens Sign Bryant McKinnie
BREAKING: Bryant McKinnie signs contract with the Baltimore Ravens. Terms are not know but expected to be one or two year deal.
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I’m not seeing this confirmed by anyone else. Though I like the move if its a cheap signing. If he drops weight and can get his head on straight, that is a ProBowl Tackle that we desperately need
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
So was Willie Anderson
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
Malor-
No he wasn’t,. Willie Anderson was a pro bowl RT for his whole career,he only played the left side in his rookie year.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AndeWi00.htm
Check it out if you don’t believe me (in the stats section)
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 23, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You;re thinking of Levi Jones Malor
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 23, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Great, great move by Ozzie……once again. It seems like each and every week, he makes a move that brings people away from the ledge just a little bit more.
- Oh no, what are we going to do without LeRon? Oh, Leach works.
- Zbi isn’t ready to be the heavy hitter Dawan was, we are screwed. Dang, I like what Pollard brings.
- We have no deep threat!!!!! This offense is doomed. Wow, did you see Evan’s speed?
- Our O-Line is so screwed, Oher and Reid can’t get it done. Bye bye playoffs. Former pro bowl OT? McKinnie? Nice!
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 23, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hold on, man…McKinnie has had some serious weight issues recently, and his work ethic has been questioned. I acknowledge it’s a low-risk signing, but let’s wait and see what happens with the line.
Ok, so still “bye bye playoffs”?
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
Wasnt everyone just bashing Gaither not too long ago for his “work ethic” problems. Now everyone is super excited because we signed a 400lb guy that got kicked off a crap team?
I personally like the move, but I just see a lot of people that were hard against Gaither now praising a move to sign a guy with legit issues.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, that’s what I was saying. I didn’t bring up Gaither, but let’s wait and see what McKinnie has in him before we trumpet this move.
No my comment wasnt directed at you. I just like that when Ozzie dumps a guy that had a history of work issues in College, its the right move…. then when he brings in a guy with legit work ethic issues, its still the right move.
Just comical really
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Gaither got kicked out of college and picked up right where he left off in the pros… Shortening his career in the process.
He had to enter the supplemental draft and dropped way down there also… No one wanted him
You know this story well… why can’t you accept the reality? Jesus
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jared Gaither is already hurt AGAIN in KC, and people see this as a complete coincidence. Maybe Ozzie knew something we didn’t? Hence the whole “In Oz We Trust” mantra…
Seriously let’s drop this.
BTW, McKinnie 2011 = Willie Anderson 2008. Good signing.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
Gaither is no mckinnie… I think mckinnie has 8 solid seasons as a pro under his belt. Gaither never quite got it going in the pros
I’m not surprised but not excited until I see this guy is serious… At best, he is a huge upgrade. At worst, he is worthless… thats too big of a range for me
Of course, our GM is a Baller so I’m cautiously optimistic
And hawk owes me $1.50 :)
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gaither is no mckinnie… I think mckinnie has 8 solid seasons as a pro under his belt. Gaither never quite got it going in the pros
Im sure Gaither isnt no Mckinnie because unlike Mckinnie he never showed up to camp overweight more than once and has clear work ethics issues. Gaither work ethic issues are not as clear as Mckinnie and you disagree then please show me the sources that prove me wrong.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
You’re right jazzy Jeff… And mckinnie also has had major character issues
Mckinnie is a proven player… 8 years pro
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I still think that it would have been smart to retain Gaither for the contract he signed in KC.
That being said, we need to let it go. If Gaither sits out the whole season and McKinnie starts for us, Ozzie will look like a genius.
I’m actually excited about what McKinnie brings to the table.
My fault! I didnt mean to make this all about the G man. Lets leave this talk to about McKinnie.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Gaither already failed one physical and is now unable to practice in KC.
You will never admit to being wrong about Gaither and that’s ok.
Mckinnie has to pass a physical tomorrow… until that happens it’s just a dream
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There’s nothing to be wrong about.
I still think Gaither’s worth the risk of a cheap contract, and I always will based on where we are and what we know right now. If he doesn’t pan out, the team’s out $700K. If he does, they have a potential Pro Bowl player. Low risk… high reward.
It’s really the same type of signing as McKinnie… except McKinnie is more likely to produce this season.
Gaither has been out of football for two years
No one wants him… He can’t even practice
You’re really stretching
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude, I am sooooo sorry. I will never mention any tackle ever again. I didnt realize fully that it was like a moth to a flame by mentioning his name
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawk, you just mentioned Gaither a half hour ago… you still want him… I’m going to write a haiku about you two
I mentioned him to say they we should let the subject go.
Think whatever you want about Gaither, myself or whomever you please. I honestly couldn’t care any less at this point, but you need to let it go. It’s becoming very annoying.
you said you still want gaither… unless i misunderstood… let me try to find it
and if you want to know what annoying is, find the two dudes who keep insisting that newsome is wrong and they are right about gaither… and how they want to bring gaither back even though no other team wants him and he can’t practice in KC…
that’s annoying.
Gaither doesn’t have to sit out the whole season… He’s already failed.
Ozzie is a genius.. you owe him an apology
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not surprised but not excited until I see this guy is serious
I completely agree with this statement. He can be phenomenal, but he looks like he has a discipline problem right now.
Gaither is no mckinnie… I think mckinnie has 8 solid seasons as a pro under his belt. Gaither never quite got it going in the pros
That isnt really true. McKinnie is known for not giving 100% and for frequently showing up out of shape. Gaither has injury issues, but he never ballooned up to 400lbs either. I think that if Gaither had work ethic issues, then McKinnie is no better in that category. However, McKinnie has stayed relatively healthy in his career, so if he can get his head on straight, he’ll be great here with us.
A good, no to low risk signing.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think in 09 when he was invited to the pro bowl Mckinnie didnt practice at all before the pro bowl game and he was fined by the nfl for that also he didnt play in the pro bowl game
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Though in his defense
He later came out and said the reason he didn’t practice was due to an injury (ankle?) and he claimed to have told his O-line coach why he wasn’t there.
Not saying its true, but just bringing up his side of the story.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 23, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
At least McKinnie isnt a fag who would rather fake an injury than start at RT. At least McKinnie actually wants to play! Maybe he won’t be ready by week one, but if he can start for us by the bye week, I will be praising this move!
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If McKinnie is in shape or can get in shape before the season starts, Ozzie will look like a genius… as usual.
I’ve read several reports saying that he’s lost a bunch of weight since he was released three weeks ago. Since the Ravens signed him, I’m much more inclined to believe those reports.
If they gave him an incentive-rich deal, he could be a huge steal for the Ravens.
Wait a Minute
That last one of yours:
- Our O-Line is so screwed, Oher and Reid can’t get it done. Bye bye playoffs. Former pro bowl OT? McKinnie? Nice!
Bit of a reach, eh? I mean, we are still screwed, unless McKinnie dropped a Cody…
But I agree with your previous three…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Don't forget
Hello Mark LeVoir to solve our back-up OT needs too
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 23, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to admit though, McKinnie hasnt been “great” for a few years now. Just ask Vikings fans, all they did for the last 2-3 years is complain about him.
A long way from Pittsburgh PA, in fact, 8653.2 miles to be precise. My blood still bleeds black and gold like the rest of Steeler Nation, proud fan since 2002.
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 24, 2011 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
This is surprising. I trust he’s close to playing shape if we were willing to offer him a contract. Let’s hope we didn’t break the bank for him. This could be a huge OT upgrade if it all works out right.
Don't be shocked that people die
Be surprised you're still alive
This COULD be huge!
As long as McKinnie is just not THAT huge. If we can round him nto playing shape, perhas we can put him at LT, where he was a beast at his best, and move Oher to RT? Nah, way too good to be true. We must be dreamin’….
aka 'Rexx'
Ha!
This COULD be huge!
As long as McKinnie is just not THAT huge. If we…
Isn’t he wonderful folks? He’s here all week. Try the chicken, and be sure to tip your waitresses…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Honestly McKinnie is a savior if he is in shape. He can play either LT or RT. I love those guys that can float between positions pretty well. That way, you don’t need to have nearly as much depth and it gives us options. Imagine a goal line formation with McKinnie as the LT, Cody and Ngata as TEs on the left side and Leach leading Ray Rice…… that is going to be impossible to stop.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t you rather have Gaither back
Don’t get excited until big boy reports and passes his physical Tmrw
And then don’t gte too excited until he shows he’s matured and wants to work
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok seriously. Leave it alone, not every comment you have to make has to be so condescending and critical. Relax man.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
im not being condescending but i am critical of your criticisms of one of the top organizations in the league.. you have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to the ravens handling of gaither… they have been spot on and you criticize them
yeah with each passing day that Gaither doesn’t practice it looks more and more like Ozzie knew what was up.
I’m not “pumped” per se but I expect McKinnie to get into playing shape and produce at RT while Oher continues to mature at LT, albeit with some continued troubles along the way. But with Yanda and McKinnie next to each other and Leach lead blocking, we can officially run the ball to the right.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
I agree, this is an awesome signing!!!
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Aug 23, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If he is 360 now we are in business.
The dude is a monster
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This reminds me of what Bill Simmons’ dad once said about Mannie Ramirez (before we knew he was roided): “I don’t care if he sits in the dugout naked as long as he puts up those numbers.”
If McKinnie produces for the duration of this short-term contract, this was a success.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
Bryant McKinnie was a starting pro bowl left tackle
And Mark LeVoir is a nasty big starting right tackle. Ugh Oh guys, you know what this means.
Bryant McKinnie was a starting pro bowl left tackle
And Mark LeVoir is a nasty big starting right tackle. Ugh Oh guys, you know what this means.
If Bryant Mckinnie can play at his pro bowl left tackle form then that means Micheal Oher can return to the right side and become the pro bowl right tackle that we all hoped. Mark Levoir is big but to say he is starter material is not clear because he’s been a back up right/left tackle mostly all of his career
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
what does this mean for the other players?
Will we carry one more O-lineman, or will someone like Harewood or Cousins go to the practice squad?
It means our biggest weakness could become a great strength with great depth
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It mean Oher will have to compete for his job
This is not a gimme like at the beginning of the season
How will Micheal Oher have to compete for his job against a career backup right tackle?
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Well who says who is playing LT? Shadow’s comment wasn’t stupid by any means. Oher will have to compete against McKinnie for that LT spot.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. I doubt the coaches even know how good or bad McKinnie is right now. We should know a lot more around the 4th preseason game.
The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.
Well who says who is playing LT? Shadow’s comment wasn’t stupid by any means. Oher will have to compete against McKinnie for that LT spot.
I dont think what Shadow was saying was stupid but I think he was saying if Mckinnie comes in and preforms better as a left tackle than oher then Micheal Oher will have to compete with Mark Levior to the point his job may be on the line at the right tackle postion
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Let’s see if he passes his physical BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT COMPETING FOR A STARTING GIG THIS LATE IN THE PRESEASON.
Agreed
Absolutetly.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Im not saying Mckinnie is coming in to compete for anything because Im very aware that he has to pass his physical first
but if he can get back into his 09 form then its no doubt that he going to be the starting left tackle and oher going to be the starting right tackle but we will see until things pan out
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
However
Even with what Josh just said, there will be no competition between Oher and Levior for the RT position. At RT, Oher >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levior.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I know but shadow thinks other wise
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
I don’t think he was saying that. Shadow only said that it looks like Oher will have to compete for his job, which is true. He never said anything about having to compete for the RT job if McKinnie pushes him over there.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oher doesn’t have to compete for a job… he is starting just like he has since rookie year
Don’t align yourself with a troll
Wow, you guys are a little dense. Shadow’s exact words were “It mean Oher will have to compete for his job. This is not a gimme like at the beginning of the season”. That is in reference to the LT spot.
Bash the guy for something he said, not for some words you are putting in his mouth.
Oher doesn’t have to compete for a job
If McKinnie comes in here healthy, yea he does. Oher will have a hell of a fight with a top tier LT and could very well get pushed back to RT. That would be losing his job or at the least a demotion.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Now if he does come out and say that Oher will have competition for the RT spot, I can see you bashing him on that comment at that part of the thread.
I don’t align myself with anyone. This isnt a him vs you type of thing so maybe stop trying to make it that way all the time.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If Levior comes in healthy and plays to his potential and doesn't false start
He could win the right tackle position. We are looking to protect Flacco first and run block second. The guy is 6’7" and 310lbs, and hopefully has a decent wingspan. To me that is a pass blocking tackle.
this was shadow first statement
Bryant McKinnie was a starting pro bowl left tackle
And Mark LeVoir is a nasty big starting right tackle. Ugh Oh guys, you know what this means.
then when some one said what he meant by what he said then he said this
It mean Oher will have to compete for his job.
If connect the two statements it give me the idea that shadows thinks not only will he have to compete for his left tackle job but also for his right tackle job by going up against Mckinnie(left tackle) and Levior(right tackle)
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
by jazz20 on Aug 23, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is exactly what I said and meant
Unlike you fellas, I don’t have a man love for anyone at any position. It is best man up at every position, why not at the tackles. I said we should bring McKinnie in a couple weeks ago, and all you whining Nancy’s could do was call me names and piss and moan. I don’t see anyone calling Ozzie names, do I Stein!
How about we let who earns the job get it. At any position.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t think they’ll immediately switch Oher to RT.
They’ll probably see how McKinnie looks, and if he’s in good enough shape, they’ll allow him to compete with Oher at LT… much like they were trying to do with Gaither and Oher last season. If McKinnie is anything like he was in Minnesota, he should win the competition, but don’t expect the Ravens to just hand the job over to McKinnie, especially with his history.
Oher at RT
There is no competition. If Oher wants the starting RT spot, it is his. LT, if McKinnie can provide any production at all, well that may be a different story.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Once again
Oher will be competing against someone at right tackle who is built for that position. He is 6’7", which should give him a longer wing span for blocking. The main thing is to protect Flacco, not worry so much about run blocking for Rice. We brought in Leach for that.
Oher is a blue chip 1st round OT
Levoir is a journeyman
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 6:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe you were under the influence of drugs or alcohol or script mess for ohers rookie season
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope
Oher was a top 5 NFL RT his ROOKIE season. There was even talk of Oher being an ROPOTY candidate. I suspect if he moved back over, he would be in the top three, assuming he didn’t pout about it.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I don’t really see anyone challenging Oher in the slightest for the RT spot if he gets moved there. If McKinnie isnt ready to play and goes to the RT spot, then there might be some competition solely because big boy isnt 100%.
But Oher on the right is a beast that is among the best in the league. LT is more about the physical traits (wing span, etc) and RT is more about being aggressive and getting in their face, which Oher does well.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Cousins is a Guard now.maybe Harewood
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 23, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If McKinnie is in shape and shows any resemblance to his Pro Bowl form, then we have a guy who can anchor either our LT or RT position. If he isn’t in shape or doesn’t show that he’s ready to get to work, then he’ll ride the bench or get cut. This is as low of a risk as you could hope to take with a former Pro Bowler.
Ozzie has a plan, he always does.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
$1M signing bonus means they worked him out… Two years and up to $7.5M means he has to earn his money
I’m officially optimistic
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 6:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ravens have him at 345 lbs. For someone who was reportedly at 400, I think its safe to say that he’s ready to get back to work. Another work of magic from the Oz-meister.
"I hate your sig…" -Mr MaLoR
by StuckInUtah on Aug 23, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is a big guy and I imagine he takes massive poops. Maybe that was his problem all along.
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 23, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
took one of them tapeworm pills
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
So just like any signing at this point, I ask...
Whose roster spot does he get? Are we going to go into the season with 5 tackles on the roster? Oher, Reid, LeVoir, Harewood, and now McKinnie? Add in Birk, Grubbs, Yanda, Cousins and Mattison, and you’ve got prett good depth, but does this signal the end for a 3rd TE, 4th RB, 6th WR, 6th CB, or one of the many worthy LBs?
Don't be shocked that people die
Be surprised you're still alive
no one knows but we have to cut ten guys in a week anyway… then get down to 53… so 30 people were goners anyway
some will go to iverson squad and others will be waived but if Big Snack can pass his phys, we are in biz
lol'ed at "iverson squad"
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
I know they IR’d paschal again
by Raven_all_day on Aug 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm surprised they keep him
It seems like he’s hurt all the time.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 23, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly,
at this point who cares…
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Aug 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's an honest question...
I trust that Ozzie wouldn’t sign McKinnie if there wasn’t a good chance he was healthy and in shape and able to help the team. But if it doesn’t work out like that, a guy like a LaQuan Williams (who everyone here seems to love) or a Chykie Brown (5th round investment, lots of potential) might end up on the practice squad and be signed away by another team.
With the recent new signings, I think we have around 60+ players who should probably earn a spot somewhere in the NFL in 2011. I realize that we’ll get the best players from that group, and in all likelihood McKinnie is an upgrade that makes this team better even without whoever’s spot he takes. Still, it’s a decision the front office guys will need to make in the very near future.
Don't be shocked that people die
Be surprised you're still alive
by onethingiknow on Aug 23, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
great post… the thing about an offensive line is it can make your QB look like a pro bowler… or it can make him look like a rookie. The extra 1.5 seconds a solid O line will give to your QB is major… having experienced tackles next to experienced guards net to an experienced center is the second most important part of a successful offense.
mckinnie may not be the answer… or he may only be the answer for a season… who knows… but it’s a very solid move and a risk that had to be taken
I don't think they will cut any one who would have mattered in the long run.
I know they IR’ed Marcus Paschal to make room for McAdoo. I’m sure something along those lines will be in order for Mckinney…
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Aug 23, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
As Big As
McKinnie is, he could have the first three digit number in the history of the NFL.
If McKinnie ever gets tangled up with Cody during practice, it would be like two hippopotamuses trying to mate…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
by vlad755 on Aug 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Only
Risk I see is that the Ravens will now be required to fly two planes wherever they go as it is against FAA regulations for both Cody and McKinnie to be on the same plane.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
by vlad755 on Aug 23, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Nah...
but just make sure they are on opposite sides. The plane will tip over if they sit side-by-side.
Good Humor Ice Cream Men
Were reported in the Baltimore area whispering to each other, “Be afraid, be very afraid…”
One week after McKinnie arrives, Owings Mills will be a Tasty-Cake free zone.
NASA reported a rare double eclipse, but scientists soon realized it was just Cody and McKinnie walking next to each other. NASA also reported that if Cody and McKinnie were to ever sit down at the exact same time, the Earth’s rotation would slow down by 3.9 milliseconds.
RavensInsider reported that The Castle is now installing light duty truck suspensions on all cafeteria benches…
Enterprising Ravens rookies were seen stashing lumps of coal in the mattresses of Cody and McKinnie hoping that by NFL week six they will have diamonds.
Prospective rookies will not longer be timed in the forty at the Ravens complex. Instead they will be timed in laps around Cody and McKinnie standing next to each other.
And finally,
Ravens laundry interns were threatening to quit their jobs as, quote, “…there are just some sweaty jocks we just refuse to wash…”
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
by vlad755 on Aug 23, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
great!definitely slot him into LT and kick Oher out to RT.Solid as a rock!
by purple_reign2011 on Aug 23, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
dude the guy weighs 380 pounds.. he needs to pass a physical, lose more weight, and learn the O… no small feat, npi
he’s a 8 yr vet,learning curve wont be that steep.hes already lost some weight,he’ll be fine.reminds me of the willie anderson signing.just in time,he slotted right in and we were fine.dont trip Evan
by purple_reign2011 on Aug 24, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
and they say gaither had issues
the talent is there for McKinnie to be the Ravens’ short-term answer at right tackle — or maybe even left tackle — but there are a few reasons why the soon-to-be 32-year-old was still on the free agent market.
For one, he has been charged in three different incidents since entering the NFL in 2002, once for a street fight, once for a bar fight and once for allegedly performing and receiving sex acts in public in the infamous Vikings Loveboat scandal in 2005, when a bunch of players went wild on a boat with strippers and sex toys.
He also was cut by the Vikings this summer for showing up to camp in awful shape, reportedly more than 50 pounds overweight (no word on how much excess weight was edible underwear).
All these incidents — even something as simple as skipping the Pro Bowl — make you seriously question McKinnie’s dedication to his craft. I can guarantee you this: If someone says this guy plays like a Raven, they’re lying to you.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
reporter Matt Vensel from Baltimoresun.com
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Yea, it definitely would have been better to sign Gaither and take the risk because it would have been SO swell when we waited for his back to heal, it doesn’t, then we are faced with our current starting OL. For some reason, the people who wanted Gaither think his back is magically going to heal in 2 weeks and we would have our LT back. Ozzie wasn’t taking that risk.
I will take McKinnie’s chances of losing 20-30 pounds over Gaither’s chances of getting a straight spine.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 23, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
RayRay is on board with the McKinnie signing
"Some people look for speed, some people look for youth," Lewis said. "But give me heart, wisdom and the will to play and win the game, and I will take that player on my side any day of the week. That is what Bryant has. I have played against him, and I know from experience how tough he is. He has a proven track record as a winner, and he is a Raven. He is one of us, and I know he will make us better."
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2011/08/ravens_reach_agreement_with_mckinnie.html
this is more than sticking up for him… this is an example of very well-worded communication both upwards to management and laterally to bryant
How can you call that well-worded? It was from Ray and didn’t use the term “bottom line” once…
"Cam Cameron…even his parents where obvious and repetitive." - raven
by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 23, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We will probably carry 10 lineman, at the expense of the 4th rb/6th wr, or maybe the extra DE (Divens probably)
jazz- all those issues were years ago. he has matured since then, and has the Miami thing going with Ray and Ed Reed. He will be a good boy.
In the Gaither vs McKinnie arguement, McKinnie is a multiple time pro-bowler, so he is worth working with to see if he can give us that level of production. Gaither is a little boy who screwed us over last year and left us hanging cuz his ego is too big and couldn’t handle playing RT, so he made up an illness and was a pussy. Good riddance Gaither.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 23, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
hanging cuz his ego is too big and couldn’t handle playing RT, so he made up an illness and was a pussy. Good riddance Gaither. – love it…
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Aug 23, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Good riddance Gaither. Have fun riding bikes in Kansas City with your fellow screwup of a teammate (Baldwin). Meanwhile Haley calls him out for saying that he was 100% when he signed, yet the guy has missed how much practice now? What a fucking joke! Haley has even said he better get his shit together sooner rather then later, or he’ll be unemployed once again. Does he still sound like a good option to you Hawk?
"I hate your sig…" -Mr MaLoR
by StuckInUtah on Aug 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We should have taken the risk of having him ride bikes here. Would have been a solid move.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 23, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for real
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Aug 23, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not taking it personally but you’ve been ramming Gaither down our throats… You keep saying you’re right and oz is wrong… Mstev also
It’s beyond ridiculous
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 9:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s funny. You have talked about Gaither much, much more than I have.
you’ve been ramming Gaither down our throats
Wow… Talk about ironic.
by BAL_Hawk on Aug 23, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
dont forget about the fanpost he just made about Gaither
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Where is the irony? Grab your dictionaries
Did you rec my piece on Gaither
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
.
Gaither is a little boy who screwed us over last year and left us hanging cuz his ego is too big and couldn’t handle playing RT, so he made up an illness and was a pussy. Good riddance Gaither.
No Offense to you ray but I think that statement is igonorant. I have gone over the gaither incident and its clear facts that he was indeed injured if you disagree with that then thats on you but If Gaither really made up his illness and etc just because he didnt want to play right tackle then shouldnt he be playing left tackle right now with Cheifs because they clearly stated that he going to be a left tackle for him but he hasnt been practing because of same issues he had here.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
"You can't reason with some people"
Of all people, you were the one who had to say that…..f’n hilarious.
"I hate your sig…" -Mr MaLoR
by StuckInUtah on Aug 23, 2011 7:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you right Shadow sometimes you cant reason with some people but it is what it is sometimes
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
He also lied to the Chiefs and said he was back to %100, which obviously isn’t the case. Which leads me to believe that it wasn’t the first time he lied to a team to get what he wanted.
Good riddance Gaither.
"I hate your sig…" -Mr MaLoR
by StuckInUtah on Aug 23, 2011 7:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jazzypoo
You can’t say no offense and then call someone ignorant…
Apologize
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 9:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You can’t say no offense and then call someone ignorant…
Apologize
I never said Ray was a overall ignorant person I said his statement was ignorant
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
That’s it, I’m sending you to bed without any dinner.
"I hate your sig…" -Mr MaLoR
by StuckInUtah on Aug 23, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
jazz
There was an injury found, a small tear in his back, but at that point he had already lost over 30 lbs and wouldn’t have been able to play his position anyways. And that tear should have only taken a few weeks to heal. Ravens dr’s cleared him to play, but his “doctors” held him out longer. maybe he isn’t a pussy, just a wus. my bad.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If oz brings in tatupu that would he crazy. He is making some gd moves.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 23, 2011 10:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How many years is tatu in the league
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Players switch all the time especially ILB.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True
Though from what I’ve read he’s a little undersized for a typical 3-4 and if he signed we would be blocking a lot of the younger guys like McClain, Ellerbe, and Gooden who have shown promise (though Gooden not so much lol)
I would love it if we singed him though, just worried about our cap situation with the McKinnie signing if we don’t get Ngata done soon.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Cap hit is $250K for the bonus + 2011 salary… I’d guess the cap hit is about $1.2M for 2011 and we’re under before getting Ngata done
The Ngata deal is going to be large… Hes our franchise on the D side
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind Tatupu. He was a 3 time pro bowler and an all pro on a defense nowhere close to ours. Was there a rumor of this?
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Just ideas
After all the come-from-behind signing Ozzie seems to make, picking up a young MLB prospect that is just sitting in FA seems to be right up his alley.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 23, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I do love this Mckinney signing though. low risk, potential high reward. We don’t have a ton of cap room, so his contract can’t be very big. If he can get back to form this could be a huge signing. If he can return to close to his LT form then this could give us a potentially dominant line. I’m not getting my hopes up yet, but it’s definitely a great signing.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
2 years 7.5 million, 1 million guaranteed. pending his physical. not a small contract.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
If the signing puts them over the cap
they have 24 hours to get back under. Maybe this means the Haloti deal is almost done.
It’s all incentives… If he passes the physical he gets his signing bonus… If he makes a great impression he will make the roster and we’re on the hook for his 2011 salary… We can reasonably assume its mostly incentives
This is a two week tryout… If hes ready to work then he’s in the right place… If not…
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah 1 mill guaranteed is not much, especially if they put him at LT. That would be an extremely cheap LT and still not bad if we play him at RT. If he earns all that money that means he was in shape and obviously earned it.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Hopefully he passes. Flacco truly needs him bad, especially if he is going to take the next step.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 23, 2011 11:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I hope so as well. He is only 2 season removed from a pro bowl and if he can re dedicate himself it’s a win win for both of us. Will definitely be a very interesting story to see how it plays out.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Flacco is fine either way because the run game is strong… No one knows if big snack is still capable and minny fans hate him as much as most of us hate Gaither… He let them down
Hopefully he wants to work here… Could be special
by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed he will be fine either way, but could you imagine if Joe has time with some of the young weapons. Like I said he’s only 2 seasons removed from a pro bowl, so the ability is there he just needs to get dedicated again.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Well at least then
McKinnie will be used to his line calls if he starts.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 24, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
When asked if the Ravens have told him what his role will be, McKinnie responded, "Yeah they told me.
"I’m going to play left [tackle]."
He then added that Michael Oher would move back to the right, a position Oher played well during his rookie season.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Don't
Tease.
Link/citation?
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
oh here it goes right here
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
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