Ravens Sign Former Patriots Lineman
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe Baltimore Ravens have agreed to terms with former New England Patriots offensive tackle, Mark LeVoir, a five-year veteran, according to BaltimoreRavens.com. LeVoir tried out for the Ravens Saturday, according to a report by Aaron Wilson, and was signed shortly afterwards.
He only started two games over the past three seasons and while the Patriots wanted him back, he refused to take a cut in pay and was therefore released into free agency. The Ravens have been looking for help along the offensive line as their depth has been thought to be the weak link in their revamped offense that has seen them released three starters from 2010 in WR Derrick Mason, TE Todd Heap, and FB Le'Ron McClain. In addition, although tackle Jared Gaither did not play in 2010, he signed with the Kansas City Chiefs, leaving the Ravens relatively thin on the line.
The injury to center Matt Birk made them worry that their depth was not where they wanted it to be heading into the regular season opener against the Pittsburgh Steelers in only three weeks. LaVoir gives them added depth along the line and if they can get Birk Healthy, they can have a higher level of confidence in protecting QB Joe Flacco.
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bruce
You say this is due to the birk situation but I think this is clearly more related to poor performance at tackle. Levoir is a tackle himself, after all.
Mattison hasn’t been abysmal and after all, when you have Grubbs on your left and (hopefully) yanda on your right, you can survive. Tackles don’t have that luxury
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mattison
May not have been bad, but I wouldn’t feel good going into Week 1 if Birk was still hurt with only Mattison and Tim Barnes as out only healthy Centers.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 21, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He is just a depth move. Jah played the entite game at right tackle and didn’t allow a sack. Oher is our left tackle for now, he isn’t coming off the field. Levoir isn’t a starter anyway. He only started two games in three seasons with NE.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Levoir isn’t a starter anyway. He only started two games in three seasons with NE.
They have pretty damn good tackles, that doesn’t mean this guy can’t play. Priest Holmes wasn’t a starter here, but he was an All-Pro in KC. There are hundreds of examples like that. I hope he’s good enough to hold it down until Jah Reid is ready to take it over on a permanent basis.
Well he played for three other teams before new england. The guy is not a starter, atleast that’s what those other organizations thought.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 21, 2011 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True
let’s see how he does on the field. Ozzie has a knack for bringing in underrated guys from other teams.
He started two games for NE
When Nick Kazcur went down and based on what I read he did a solid job when he was given the opportunity.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 21, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No!
Oher is our left tackle for now
Say it ain’t so!!! I know there are non-football performance issues with moving Oher to RT, but wouldn’t it be better to have a dominant RT and a so-so LT versus a so-so LT and a so-so RT -which is what we currently have.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I agree with you
but I think they are committed to Oher at LT. Unless he doesn’t progress this year, then they’ll probably look for someone to come in and push him back to the right side.
I know there are non-football performance issues with moving Oher to RT
I assume you mean “The Blind Side”. We could just teach Joe to throw left handed, then move Oher to RT and he’d still play the blind side!
Actually
yeah, kind of; but mostly being a first round pick that was traded up for, the LT money being spent on him, etc. The way football teams and players work nowadays, not so easy to “demote” (players and agents see it that way) a LT to RT, unless it is somebody at the end of their careers. See Gaither as exhibit “A” in this department.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
The only way I see Oher moving back to the right side is until Ramon Hare Wood or Mark Levoir prove to be a better option as a left tackle than him.
Micheal Oher may have had a little of a bad year last year but he still was the same guy that prevent James Harrison for sacking Joe Flacco and that isnt a easy thing to do
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
The debate is
Do you think the LeVoir (or anyone else we can get right now) is better at LT than Oher, granted he might be a better RT than anyone we have on the roster, but we don’t have any LTs that are far and away better than Oher right now and the Coaches and FO want to give him another shot and locking down the LT position.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 21, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I Respectfully Disagree
I believe we have already on our roster and/or will be available after roster cut-downs someone who could perform as least as well as Oher did last year at LT, if not a slight upgrade. Oher is not a top 10 LT. I do not believe he is in the top half of the league. Probably somewhere in the 17 – 22 ranking.
The difference being that by Oher moving to RT, we would then have a top 5 RT.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
OK
Who do you think could become available that is better than Oher at LT? (Assuming you don’t think someone on the roster already is.) Be careful not to get into the imaginary “will be available” guy because if we keep hoping for him to appear to solve our problems he may never show up. Until said guy appears I, personally, try to stick with guys I know are possibilities (i.e. Free Agents or guys on the team) as solutions for problems the team is facing.
I’ll agree with you we could get someone who could perform better than Oher did LAST year, and that person could very well be Michael Oher himself because he’s not going to be the same player he was last year. Remember last season was his first at LT full-time, prior to that he’d been at RT most of his rookie year and the technique and thinks to remember when playing RT are different from LT. The more I look at stuff from last year the more I am starting to think most of Oher’s problems are due to mental stuff, him over thinking things and if he just slows down and lets his instincts react he will do much better.
Whatever you think about his prospects as a LT you can not deny he is a talented kid, anyone who could be a Top 5 RT is talented. I’m saying that the coaches and FO (and we as fans should0 give him one more year to prove (or disprove) that he belongs at LT.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Look
As a coach, you have to give Oher another year at LT -I understand that and would do that as the coach. As a fan, however, he was not all that at LT last year, and he has not shown me anything yet this preseason to give me hope that he will vastly improve. That is why as a fan, I say shuffle his size 16’s over to the right side.
And I hope, that if Pittsburgh steals Oher’s lunch money week 1, the coaching staff is open to the idea of switching him back. We as fans do not know and will never know this as that is something that only the coaches will discuss behind closed doors.
Like I said before, today, Oher was a great college LT and a great NFL RT. Not sure about the NFL LT…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Agreed that he may not be the answer at LT and that we may need to look somewhere else, but I really don’t see any options better than him now. I agree he is an outstanding RT, but I honestly don’t think anyone on our roster can handle the LT spot as of right now. I’m from the coaches perspective where I am giving him one more year, but he will definitely be under the microscope and if there isn’t much progression than we will have to look into other options.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
by AV23 on Aug 22, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed AV23
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about the NFL LT…
That’s my main point, if the coaches want to give Oher another shot at LT then I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he has shown flashes of skill at times while playing LT it just has come together consistently for him.
If Oher comes out at LT and ABSOLUTELY stinks (though I doubt that will happen) then I agree he should be pulled or at least lose his spot for a bit. However, if he struggles but overall is successful then I think they need to keep him out there to grow and develop (remember he’s only a 3rd year guy) because the Steelers have made a lot of good Offensive Linemen look bad bad over the years.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
People are crazy.
nfldraftupdate Dion Caputi
2 men shot outside Candlestick Park after #49ers / #Raiders game. Man wearing “F the 49ers” shirt in critical condition. Be safe/smart folks
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California is not the problem
We are just afflicted by a disease known as Dodgers/Raider fans. A bunch of wannabe thugs going to games and talk so big they can’t back it up when they get put in their place.
Seriously if you are so invested in a Preseason game that you wear a “F the 49ers” shirt to a 49ers home game and that to shut them up you have to shot them, you have way more problems.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 21, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The shooting is reprehensible, but wearing that shirt is also in very poor judgement. You’re daring someone to do something.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 6:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
And the guy that go beat up at the Dodgers game was talking trash about the home team while rooting for the Giants.
The old saying stands, “If you can eat what you dish up, then don’t come to the restaurant.”
Not trying to say that beatings or shootings are ok mind you, but sometimes people try to rile everyone up with what they say or wear and then act all surprised when people react badly to it. It would be like going to a Steelers game in Pittsburgh wearing a “F the Steelers” shirt, do you really expect to be greeted with open arms?
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
christopher, a piece of clothing or a spoken insult is never justification for a shooting or any other kind of violence
what im saying
And what I think he is agreeing with, is that the shooting is reprehensible. But you don’t walk into a bullfight wearing a red t shirt and expect nothing to happen.
Bill Parcells always told his guys, “don’t go where you’re not known or not welcome.” I think that’s the point we’re making.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No because you aren’t antagonizing anyone by doing that.
By wearing a “F*** the 9ers” shirt you are literally antagonizing people and your goal is to have some kind of confrontation—be it verbal or physical. He got more than he deserved and that’s not right, but that doesn’t mean what he did was very smart or mature.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“More than he deserved” was poorly worded by me. But I wouldn’t have done what he did and I’m guessing he regrets it too right now.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh totally agree with you Evan
It is never justification for any form of violence in any way.
But just because I know that violence is never the answer to problem doesn’t mean I should then run into a Biker Bar and call all the biggest, meanest guys in there flaming homosexuals and then expect to walk out of there without a scratch.
Violence should never be the way we try to solve a problem, but at the same time that doesn’t mean we should go trying to antagonize other people just to see how “close” we can push them before they snap.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re trying to place part of the blame on someone who went to a sporting event wearing a t shirt that isn’t even mildly offensive and got shot by some wackjob
i dont want to go back and forth so im dropping it
"F the 49ers"
Isn’t considered offensive in your book?
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
no it isnt offensive. i live in san francisco… i havent heard one person in town make the argument you’re attempting to make
the victim is not responsible for being shot… any attempt to argue otherwise is ridiculous
You’re right, the victim isn’t responsible for being shot. I’m just saying I wouldn’t have done what he did.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
And Evan not everyone is calm and collected when they see something like that.
The person who was shot or beat up didn’t deserve anything that happened to them and the person who did was completely wrong to do so.
However, doing something that blatant that could antagonize people isn’t a good idea either.
Everyone at the football game has the right to wear whatever they want, but if you are rooting for the visiting team then you should expect to be heckled and booed.
Though when people get beat-up and shot that’s taking things to far.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
on a lighter note, did these three ravens fans deserve to have their asses kicked in their home town by a lone chiefs fan?
Haha I can’t really tell what’s going on there, it looks like on ravens fan got his lights knocked out, then the chiefs fan got overpowered, and a girl is screaming in the background like this is the worst moment of her life…
That looks like a classic case of some drunk dudes all getting into the fight they were hoping for.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bingo +1
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I can’t really tell what’s going on there, it looks like on ravens fan got his lights knocked out, then the chiefs fan got overpowered, and a girl is screaming in the background like this is the worst moment of her life…
That looks like a classic case of some drunk dudes all getting into the fight they were hoping for.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All talk
no action?
Most likely expecting the chief guy to back down because he had numbers on his side.
This is your brain on alcohol kids…
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he’s never been in a fight probably.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Right there witcha
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 3:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i wouldnt either…but its a sporting event and people do dumb shit. i went to the raiders/ravens game in 2010 and i cheered loudly when we scored (especially on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbfIbUqcrw
i hear what youre saying… you wouldn’t stick your dick in a bee’s nest… but we have to hold ourselves to a much higher standard as human beings
True indeed.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Totally agree
Unfortunately not everyone is smart enough to think so, thus us more intelligent folk need to be careful.
Its the same concept with defensive driving, assume people around you don’t know what they are doing so that it keep you more safe.
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 22, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hearing we’re signing another lineman, Jason Murphey.
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who dis iz?
anybody know anything about him?
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
center
he hasn’t played in 3 seasons. This has to be a move to compete with Mattison, because this guy has next to zero playing time in his career.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
He was formally of the titans
by Raven_all_day on Aug 21, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you seem to think your personal opinion is fact
if you cant offer something substantive to support your opinion, youre just another fan with an inflated self-image.
tell us:
what makes arians better than cameron.
Pot calling the kettle black
For one, his comment wasn’t nearly as offensive as your insult.
Can we all going back to playing on the playground nicely? Go insult some Steelers fans if you need to beat your chests like a neanderthal.
you forgot to thank you my dear watson
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
I should have been more specific. Arians is pitt’s OC. Coordinators don’t have records.
what kind of pitt troll are you anyway
Ha!
Raven is anything BUT a P-burgh troll.
Raven is Raven. Been on these boards for several years. Prickly, yes. Insanely funny (emphasis on insane). Dogmatic in what he believes in, whether it is Joe-bot 4.0 (or whatever rev it is up to) or Cam “never met and end around I didn’t like” Cameron. I have no problem with Raven and enjoy his musings immensely.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
with Ngata still sucking up 12mil in cap space, he isn’t really an option for this team at the moment.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
Agreed
LeVoir is a cheaper option, though he has experience as a LT and RT so he gives us more flexibility as a back-up
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by Christopher Atwood on Aug 21, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely unrelataed question
My Fantasy draft starts today, and with CJ’s holdout, how do you rank the top 5 RB’s (AP, Foster, Rice, Charles, MJD, CJ)?
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I got Charles second, but the rest looks good.
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I will never draft Gore again. His knees are ticking time bombs.
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Gore killed me last year. Made a trade for him and that very game is the one that ended the season, so I got to use him for like a whole 5 minutes.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Rice went with the #2 pick. I was surprised, and a little bummed. But in retrospect it saved me from being a homer and not going with the smartest pick. I ended up with Charles & Turner, so I didn’t do too bad. 3rd year in a row without a single Steeler on my roster, thank you very much!
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 22, 2011 1:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
rice is in position to have a monster year… he has the work ethic and the skills…oz got him a personal bodyguard who isnt trying to poach carries…and the td vulture got cut and cam says Rice is now goal-line back
2000 yards and 14 TDs? thank you
I think you’re right, he is setup to have a big year. But #2? Seriously?
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 22, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s an awesome 1 and 2 at RB.
I also hate picking Steeler’s players. I like going the whole year without rooting for any part of their organization.
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Really though? Reports are showing that the Titans and CJ’s agent are far apart. And with Fitzgerald landing a ridiculous contract yesterday will probably only make matters worse. So is CJ really worth a top 5 (or even top 20) pick?
"I hate your sig…" -Mr MaLoR
they almost have a deal but every time CJ goes to sign the contract his forehead knocks the pen from his hand.
This is comedic genius.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
Yes!
100% Agree!
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
I preferred the thread where he started calling skev english. That one was actually pretty funny, if I could find it again.
Nothing against skev, but he got u on that one
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 22, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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