Ravens Training Camp: Tuesday Edition
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT
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PrintTuesday's Training Camp for the Baltimore Ravens was one of their later starts, beginning at 3:30pm and running the maximum permitted length of three full hours. bunch of new news is coming out of camp, including a few uniform number changes. New Ravens WR Lee Evans will get his normal number 83, which previously was TE Ed Dickson's. Dickson will now switch to #84, his third uniform number since being drafted in 2010.
Several veteran players have been given the day off, including Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Jarret Johnson, Anquan Boldin and Ray Rice. However, it's good to see OT Ramon Harewood suited up and practicing, and wow, is he a big guy! Also huge for his position is safety Bernard Pollard, who is noticeably bigger than any other safety on the team
Rookie wide receiver Tandon Doss out-jumps his defender for a solid catch, one of the many that he has made this afternoon, which prompts me to believe that he may be ahead of fellow rookie WR Torrey Smith in the eyes of the coaches. Even David Reed is back in pads and he finally catches a ball from rookie QB Tyrod Taylor.
On the defensive side of the ball, OLB Sergo Kindle is rushing the passer from the outside and does not seem to shy away from any type of contact. Also having a great camp is rookie DE Pernell McPhee, who is fast and strong with a quick first step, which seems to get him into the offensive backfield a lot.
At one point, RB Ricky Williams runs up the middle and is met by LB Prescott Burgess, who lays the wood to him, stopping him in his tracks. Later on, Williams stuffs LB Tavares Gooden on a blitz while providing pass protection for QB Joe Flacco. Speaking of Flacco, he and rookie CB Jimmy Smith jokingly trade trash talk after one particular play.
On successive plays, Flacco throws towards Torrey Smith and Jimmy Smith jumps in front only to have the easy interception clank off his chest. However, Flacco rebounds by hitting a streaking Torrey across the middle, with Jimmy trailing helplessly behind.
Overall, the running game seems to be making strides against the defense, albeit without a bunch of their main starters. On the offensive line, due to injuries as well as experimentation, the right side has rookie Jah Reid at right tackle and inside of him is Oniel Cousins at right guard, a massive side of an offensive line. Ben Grubbs is at left guard, Michael Oher at left tackle and Bryan Mattison filling in for Matt Birk at center.
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Practice good habits Jimmy.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
How is David Reed looking?
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I’ve read that he’s definitely a little rusty, and has been uncharacteristically dropping some balls. I’m sure our former Ute will get his act together quickly though.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
I’m hoping for a repeat performance on Roethlisberger.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We are not hoping one of our guys hits someone below the knees and injures them... whether it's an accident or not
and whether the QB is a douche or not.. no injuries… just plenty of pain
Oh how very noble of you Evan.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Love everything I am hearing about McPhee. He was an All-SEC D-Lineman, which is basically the highest honor a player can recieve besides the individual awards.
He had that great strip sack against Philly (even though it wasn’t) but still a hustle play and half the time, that is called a TD. He was dominating that OT in that game, I saw 4-5 times where the OT just could not handle him. He is a natural born leader with great physical tools.
We talk so much about Arthur Jones being in the running for the starting spot, but I would definitely not count out McPhee if he has 3 more games like he did against Philly and continues to wow the coaches in practice.
Pagano said they had expectations for him as a run stopped mostly, but that he has now exceeded those with a great showing of pass rush abilities. Very excited to see how he turns out.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
Our D-line is stocked for years to come
Ngata, Cody, McKinney, Jones, Divens, and McPhee, these guys have their best football still ahead of them. Then if you throw in Suggs, Kruger, and Kindle, all guys who can play with their hands in the dirt, we’re set for a long time.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dont know about divens but i like the sound of nagata cody n mcphee as our front three…
by purple_reign2011 on Aug 17, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed about Mcphee. The guy plays like an animal and Pagano described him as “violent.” I’m really looking forward to seeing this guy progress and between him and Jones we may have solidified our other end spot for a long time.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I have heard some stuff about him too. Honestly didn’t expect him to do anything in the league, but then again I don’t really know anything about him either. Its never a bad thing to have too many good people to decide who to start!
by Mstevens_Design on Aug 18, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we’re going to see a ton of production from last year’s and this year’s draft classes. Kindle will hopefully stay healthy, Dickson and Pitta will be on the field a lot, and Art Jones should be a nice rotational player along the d-line. From this year, Jimmy should start, Torrey and Tandon will be active for every game, and Reid should get some PT at right tackle. But I love what I am hearing about in McPhee. He could turn out to be a steal (5th round!) if he continues to play well.
Cary Williams is still running with the 1st team, there goes my foot in my mouth. Although it does give us two big, physical CB’s.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Might trade foxworth, I feel it
by Raven_all_day on Aug 17, 2011 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who would want an overpaid CB who’s coming off of a major injury? Too bad he’s not faster, we could probably ship him to Oakland for a 1st rounder.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 6:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What about a possible trade with Dallas? I heard that they are in need of a CB. What if we could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Fox and get Kitna in the deal as well to be a backup QB to Flacco? Romo should be healthy enough to carry their team for the season and I think they have other viable back up options at QB, whereas we need a vet QB just in case.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
by WestminsterRaven on Aug 17, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A 2nd or 3rd would be great, pass on Kitna though.
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by StuckInUtah on Aug 17, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kitna did a good job for the cowboys when Tony Romo went down but I highly doubt the cowboys trade him because he
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
typo because he's there only solid back up quarterback
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
Yea, I’ll admit Kitna wouldn’t be ideal, but who is really left on the market? The FA QB market is so slim right now and he could fill a need we have via a trade like I mentioned above. Our CB depth is pretty good and I think
Kitna is expendable in Dallas. Culpepper is still out there, but I think that might be a worse choice. Hell, the 49ers just signed McCown, haha, that’s how bad the QB market is. I think in order to get a competent back up in this stage of FA is only going to come through a trade and IMO Kitna showed last year he could step in and manage games while being somewhat productive….and that was with all of the dysfunction in the Cowboys franchise too.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
by WestminsterRaven on Aug 17, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree but it seems like the ravens are real focus on Tyrod Taylor to be the number two quarterback
and they seem to have faith in him right now. I know Taylor is a rookie and it may seem like its asking too much for him right but there really isnt any body else out there that would be a better option than him.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
At least
Until some other QBs get cut
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Aug 17, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Jazzy, almost any vet ia a better option than a mobile rookie QB
and I’m not down on Tyrod…I think he’s much better than Vick was
Jazzy, almost any vet ia a better option than a mobile rookie QB
I dont think Tryod Taylor is just a mobile quarterback he has a good arm, seems to throw accurate passes, and etc.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
how can I not but right now there nobody out there thats a better option than Tyrod Taylor
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
One of these preseason games (I predict this one), Tyrod is gonna go Vick on us and run for 95 yards while throwing for 260 and 2 TD’s.
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
9/11 Jimmy Smith is going to notch his first Pick 6
by Evan Skev on Aug 18, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
taylor is the type of qb we need in this division. pitt eats lumbering qbs to death. have i mentioned my rotating qbs methods before…. : )
Yes, you have. It has worked so well with past teams…
"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda
the eagles did it I dont but I dont remember how successful they were with it
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
it i dont
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
I think the ravens will keep Foxworth this year but I could be wrong. You can never have too many good cornerbacks and Foxworth isnt a bad cornerback at all.
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes
yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz
I think we hold on to Fox this year too, I think he can still be good for us and we may even need him more than we think, but I was just throwing the possibility out there of a trade to see what you all think. It would fill our need at QB2 and give them a good CB that they need. As far as getting what type of draft pick, who knows. If their desperate enough why not a 2nd or 3rd round pick? Remember, it’s the Cowboys and they were convinced that they had locked up Nnamdi until Philly snatched him up. They def. have a need at cb and granted Fox sure isn’t Aso but he could be a good #2 or even #1 for a team that’s desperate for CB depth.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
by WestminsterRaven on Aug 17, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He better. He’s tall, fast, and long. If we cut him, someone else will pick him up immediately. Even if he isn’t great this year, in the future he probably will be decent to good.
The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.
I’d take a 7th for him. I think he’s going to get cut this year anyway. Evan posted a good link about his contract status in another thread.
The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.
poop, fox is worth a lot more than a 7th to us… and don’t be surprised if oz gets a 2nd for him once the season starts
as of today, i don’t see him going anywhere due to the scarcity of CBs…but if chykie shows the coaches something, fox will be gone quickly
If we’re not getting Ngata’s contract done soon, Fox’s release or trade would create an extra 4 million of cap space. That’s why I’d take just about anything for him trade wise.
Best case scenario, we trade Fox for a decent tackle.
Fox may be the 5th best corner on the team. I’m not worried about losing him. We got Brown, Nakuruma, Zibi, and Pollard to play in passing situations too.
The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.
As I seem to recall...
Foxworth played really well at the end of the ‘09 season (Colts game aside). I realize his injury could mean he never comes back the same, but unless we get a nice offer for a player(s) that will help us this year, I see no reason to trade him. No way I’d take a 7th for him unless I was sure his career was over. If he’s healthy and back to form, he’s the best option we have regardless of his over-sized contract.
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Be surprised you're still alive
by onethingiknow on Aug 18, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok maybe a 3rd…I was a little ambitious
by Evan Skev on Aug 19, 2011 1:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is it me or does anyone else feel that Kruger could have 3 sacks in a game but burp in practice and get benched for 4 weeks? some people just aren’t good practice players especially those that run off pure adrenelin.
JJ said Kruger has been nasty in practice. Is it me or will he have 13 SACKS??
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 18, 2011 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
put me on record
I’m not a real huge homer, but I will go way out on a limb and say Kruger gets 10+ sacks. Pagano will use him and Kruger will use his talents.
"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."
by jackmca on Aug 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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