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My Kansas City Chiefs just added a third former Raven in tackle Jared Gaither. The Chiefs have been weak at RT but I have heard some concerns about Gaither. Can he even play on the right side??

I was just wanting to get the perspecticve from Ravens fans on how he could help our team and how big of a risk is he?? 

Personally, I hope he can take the starting RT job away from Barry Richardson and hold the spot for years to come.

The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!

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Gaither is a sure-fire Pro Bowler if he can stay healthy. He’s a freak athlete and a natural LT.

People make a big deal about his “laziness” issues, but he was nothing but dominate while on the field.

This is the most discouraging news that I’ve heard for Ravens fans this off-season.

by BAL_Hawk on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Reports are that he will stay at LT in KC and Albert will move to the RT position.

by tomahawk44 on Aug 11, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect… Albert is a beast run blocker. You guys should have a stud OL if Gaither can play.

by BAL_Hawk on Aug 11, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

The Chiefs have raided Baltimore this season.. Zorn, Gregg, McClain and now Gaither. I guess if you can’t beat them.. become them!

Atleast we won’t have to hear that we are Patriots West ! lol

by tomahawk44 on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can have Zorn, Gregg and McClain. I think we’re better off without them.

Gaither really hurts though. It’s going to suck watching the KC OL beast everyone while we struggle to keep Joe upright.

by BAL_Hawk on Aug 11, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

beast everyone while we struggle to keep Joe upright

Hawk you was just talking about the ravens having trust in the rookie wideouts and that you were fine with that. I think you should beleive in the same trust they probably have for Jah Reid or maybe Oneil Cousins.

What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes

yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz

by jazz20 on Aug 11, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right… and if they had 2-3 young, promising players at tackle, I may agree with you. The fact is they are extremely thin at tackle and just let an extremely talented, young player, who would’ve signed a cheap contract, walk.

Who do they have at tackle? Oher, Cousins, Reid and maybe Yanda if they’re willing to sacrifice the RG position. That’s it. What if Oher is injured? They literally have no one to play LT in that case, and the RT position is shaky at best. I like Reid as a prospect, but I’ve said all along that depending on him with the season on the line is incredibly risky and reckless.

The only legitimate reason that I can see for letting him walk is if they knew, beyond any doubt, that either he’d never play again or would never be the same player after the injury.

Look, everyone knows me here and knows that I don’t usually get too high or too low about stuff, but this is one of the most questionable things that I’ve ever seen the organization do. I really believe that this will bite us in the butt… badly.

by BAL_Hawk on Aug 11, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think very few people here feel as strongly about it as you.

"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."

by jackmca on Aug 11, 2011 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope that I am wrong. I honestly do.

by BAL_Hawk on Aug 11, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right… and if they had 2-3 young, promising players at tackle, I may agree with you. The fact is they are extremely thin at tackle and just let an extremely talented, young player, who would’ve signed a cheap contract, walk.

Maybe Gaither wasn’t willing to play RT, and we werent willing to move Oher. And btw, Reid, Cousins and Harewood are just as promising as our bevy of WR’s (Torrey, Doss, Marcus Smith, David Reed, Hardy, LaQuan Williams etc).

Reid is our Torrey, David Reed is our Harewood, and Cousins is James Hardy.

Btw, Oniel Cousins can play LT if Oher goes down with an injury. Interestingly, Cousins was a DT for his first 2 years of college, then went to LT for his junior year, and RT for his senior year. So we should probably not write him off yet since he was pretty new to the position when we drafted him.

Cousins, a native Jamaican, signed with UTEP as a defensive tackle and remained at this position until being moved to left tackle as a junior.

Cousins’ natural size and athleticism helped him make the transition to the offensive side of the ball, but he predictably struggled with technique. In making the move as a senior to the right side of the line, Cousins enjoyed significant improvement.

He flashes the foot quickness to ultimately move back to the left side and has developed his upper body strength and use of hands significantly. In fact, Cousins’ rapid development has scouts talking of Cousins as one of the real “diamond in the rough” types of a strong 2008 crop of offensive tackles.

The concern, of course, is that Cousins remains an unpolished diamond — one that will require some development before he is ready to contribute at the NFL level. Cousins flashes the athleticism needed to play on the outside, but early in his career teams may elect to move him inside — where he has never played — to get him acclimated to the speed of the pro game.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/oniel-cousins?id=1260

Also, Jah Reid can play Guard if we need him too.

And Harewood has experience at LT too:

Grant had accepted a position as an assistant coach for the Morehouse College football team. One day, the coach heard back from the player he befriended. “I just decided to call (Grant) one day and that was it,” Harewood stated. He was accepted for the 2006 spring term and received an academic scholarship.

“When the opportunity arose for me to at least come over here and get a good education, even if I didn’t get to play sports, it would have been better,” said Harewood, whose only experience with football to that point had been watching it on television. He would eventually become one of the best players to ever suit up for the school and compete in the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference.

After learning the game from the sidelines, Harwood finally got an opportunity to play in the final two contests of the 2006 campaign – as a defensive lineman. He posted seven tackles with a stop behind the line of scrimmage as a raw freshman.

Harewood proved to be a quick learner, befitting his 3.0-plus grade point average in Applied Physics and Engineering. “I don’t think it’s been too hard to learn, to be honest with you,” he said. “Sometimes it got confusing, like dealing with different defenses, but it’s never been too hard.”

Even after he switched to the offensive side of the ball in 2007, the Maroon Tigers’ new right tackle had a solid campaign, producing 63 knockdowns to go with seven touchdown-resulting blocks. That performance earned him All-SIAC second-team honors, as he led the squad to a 7-3 record. He also made two tackles and blocked a punt.

Harewood was named to the All-SIAC first-team as a junior and senior. In 2008, the ground game was virtually non-existent, as Morehouse gained just 418 yards, but the right tackle was credited with 92 knockdowns and 10 touchdown-resulting blocks while honing his pass protection skills.

Harewood added All-American honors as a senior. He moved to left tackle, where he delivered 15 touchdown-resulting blocks for an offense that generated 3,077 yards while finishing with a 7-3 record.

“Ramon’s definitely a bona fide NFL prospect,” said Morehouse coach Rich Freeman. The coach said that almost every NFL team sent a scout to the school last fall. “We’re blessed to have him, glad to have him,” said athletics director Andre Pattillo. “He’s the prototype of the student-athlete that we wish we could get on a consistent basis.”

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1675485

by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 11, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he’s on the field, he’s a beast. He’s had a few injuries though. Good Luck with him.

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by El.Dude on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

definitely back and forth on Gaither for me. There’s no denying the talent, but sometimes back problems just don’t go away. He is good enough though that if we could have brought him back cheap it would have been worth the risk IMO. I’m hoping he doesn’t turn out for you guys though because you are definitely moving in the right direction as an organization and you have some real solid young studs on that team.

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by AV23 on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Freak athlete, might be the biggest OL in the league. Was an incredible bball player, so you know he has good feet. Long arms. You just simply can’t get around him. When healthy, he is a top 5 LT in this league hands down.

Only problem is that he hasn’t been healthy, has a shit work ethic (failed out of a college where you could not go to class all year and still get a 2.0) and bad attitude it seems. I have always heard that there is no such thing as a healed back injury, it always has a great chance of flaming up again. The spine is so delicate, and Gaither really messed his up.

"'If there isn't a bone sticking out of my leg, I'm playing" - Marshall Yanda

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 11, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

It was never my impression that he gave less than 100% on game day. He always struck me as the kind of player to blow off practice, but then take the games seriously.

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by Ampallang on Aug 11, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he couldn't pass a Raiders physical

i think there are serious doubts he will ever play

by davver on Aug 11, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

your kiding yourself

he might be an ass but Gaither is a beast when he wants to be

by purple_reign2011 on Aug 11, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

back injuries never fully heal. That much isn’t his choice to make. we’ll see how healthy he is.

"Airborne, do not look at the ground. I promise you, it will be there. Unless the tectonic plates shift, and a chasm opens up on the drop zone, in which case we will surely let you know."

by jackmca on Aug 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem with i think is your have to give him a lucrative contract where everything is incentive based.he needs something like $$ to keep him motivativated…..then watch him dominate

by purple_reign2011 on Aug 11, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He's the 3rd best pass blocker in the game

as rated by an analysis team that grades “every player, every play.” See this article, which I’ve posted before.

6’9, 36" arms, 340 pounds. An absolute monster in every measurable you could imagine, who also plays with heart. Leaves it all on the field, as the old cliche goes. Once came off the bench to hold down the blind side with ONE ARM.

The worry is that his back problems could be chronic, which would be an absolute shame. In that respect, it’s a similar situation to Da’Quan Bowers, where teams were scared away by the long-term implications of that injury concern. Gaither may be the victim of his own immense size, strength, and effort with a spine that can’t support him.

by dimik on Aug 12, 2011 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

He's a bum.

tons of talent but no brains… kicked out of a school where it’s impossible to get kicked out (maryland)

had one stellar season in Baltimore but lousy work ethic makes it impossible for someone of his size to stay healthy… he is the Allen Iverson of NFL players… just wants to show up and play… no practice, workouts, or diet… has a mysterious injury… no one knows what was wrong with him last year when he spent the season on IR after reporting to camp 30 pounds lighter and making contract demands through his agent… entered free agency with no offer on the table from the team that knows him best… tried to hook up with former coach Hue Jackson in Oakland but failed their physical…

I hope he contributes for you guys because he shat the bed over here. High risk signing for KC.

How much money did you give him? Any guaranteed money?

by Evan Skev on Aug 13, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

has a mysterious injury… no one knows what was wrong with him …

The information is out there.

For the children who can’t be bothered to read anything without pop-up pictures, the Ravens (via Harbaugh) stated on August 14, 18 and 25 that Gaither had a tear in his back (specifically on the lining of a thoracic disc). There’s nothing mysterious about what happened. A back injury like that can make it incredibly difficult to perform any NFL-level weight training, and losing some weight sounds like a pretty viable secondary effect for an NFL lineman with this kind of injury.

no practice, workouts, or diet…

This is pure speculation. I’ve seen no evidence that Gaither ever did anything more egregious than skip voluntary team activities. Where’s the evidence that he doesn’t practice, work out, or abstain from KFC?

… he shat the bed over here.

That’s an interesting way to describe what could very well be a tragic injury. Even when he had only one functional arm, Gaither played very well for us.

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by Ampallang on Aug 13, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected

he is a great player who suffered a back injury… he did great in college and worked very hard to be the best he could be. He listened to coaches and didn’t let his agent get in his ear too much. Just an all-around solid, meat and potatoes football-loving athlete similar to Kelly Gregg and Marshall Yanda.

Jared Gaither is a great addition for KC and I wish you all the best with him. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I can’t believe he didn’t get invited back to Baltimore and I’m amazed that only one team gave him a tryout. Quality Pro-Bowl caliber LT. His heart is in the game… I hope you give him the long-term contract he wants because, based on his track record the past seven years, he deserves all the money.

Congrats and kudos.

by Evan Skev on Aug 13, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, he once played a game for us with only one arm. The Ravens FO knows him best and they offered him starting LT money but he declined and decided to seek employment elsewhere. Ozzie Newsome was so disappointed that he couldn’t get Gaither to stay in Baltimore that he gave all of Gaither’s money to Yanda… about $30M.

Good luck with Gaither!

On a related note, the Ravens are now trying to get McKinnie since he is another high character LT with an excellent work ethic and commitment to greatness who also happens to have the ability to captain Steve Bisciotti’s boat during the offseason. I hear he is up to 390 pounds but what’s $60M or 60 pounds between friends? McKinnie has EIGHT great seasons in his past and he begged Minnesota to let him out of his contract. I’m hoping we pick him up because he seems to be at least as reliable as Gaither.

by Evan Skev on Aug 13, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Ravens FO knows him best and they offered him starting LT money but he declined and decided to seek employment elsewhere. Ozzie Newsome was so disappointed that he couldn’t get Gaither to stay in Baltimore that he gave all of Gaither’s money to Yanda… about $30M.

I dont think ozzie offered Gaither any big time money but its was said that they did invite gaither for a contract talk before the lockout. Overall it was Gaither choice to accept the deal or not but I probably wanted want to come back either if he was hearing all these mystery rumors about him.

McKinnie has EIGHT great seasons in his past and he begged Minnesota to let him out of his contract. I’m hoping we pick him up because he seems to be at least as reliable as Gaither.

there a big difference between him Gaither and Mckinnie. Gaither never showed up to camp out of shape like Mckinnie due to weight gain and etc. Mckinnie would constantly come to camp out of shape and try to work it off doing training camp unlike gaither who actrally came to camp in shape.

What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes

yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz

by jazz20 on Aug 13, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I probably wanted wouldnt want to come back

What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?-langton Hughes

yeah I agree with Jimmy and Cary shutting down the other teams WR’s, they’ll make anybody rushing the QB look good - Jaz

by jazz20 on Aug 13, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

huge difference between them… i agree, jazzy j

by Evan Skev on Aug 23, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get your hopes up.. his work ethic isn’t bad, it’s nonexistent

by Evan Skev on Aug 21, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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