2012 Mock Draft Has Ravens Taking Defensive Lineman
by Bruce Raffel on Jun 4, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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Another 2012 Mock Draft is already being published and this time they have the Baltimore Ravens selecting a defensive lineman with their pick in the first round. First Regime sees the Ravens finishing strong in the 2011 season but not drafting in one of the two final spots, eaning the Super Bowl positions. Once again, they are the definition of "close, but no cigar," picking in the 27thslot. The final two teams are the New England Patriots (31st) and Green Bay Packers (32nd).
The 29th and 30th teams are the Indianapolis Colts and Pittsburgh Steelers, respectively. Those final four teams are certainly worthy of being in the mix for the 2012 Super Bowl, yet they are also the "safe" picks for a website to steer clear of any bold predictions.
They have the Baltimore Ravens selecting Nebraska defensive lineman, Jared Crick, who would be a perfect fit for the scheme this defense runs. Listed as a defensive tackle, Crick would move to DE in the Ravens 3-4 primary defensive sets. Listed at 6'8" and 285 pounds, that makes him the prototypical size that would be able to fend off the big offensive lineman and also athletic enough to put pass pressure on the quarterback.
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Those are some safe picks...
I have the Steelers picking 19th after a 10-6 season
First Ill comment
on Jared Crick.. I think that he would fit beautifully in the Ravens scheme. One thing that i noticed was that he would occasionally drop in coverage as a DT, and while in coverage he showed great speed getting to the ball carrier. He also has good hands to shed off the tackle. I think that he would be a solid pick IF the ravens do not pick up a viable starter through FA.. There are some young studs out there this year in Ray Edwards, Cullen Jenkins, charles johnson, and mathias kiwanuka. There is no way that the ravens go another season without bringing in a stud passrusher to oppose Suggs.
Second ill comment on Evan Skev’s post about the steelers. I personally think that you have no respect for the steelers, of course we all have a strong soul driven hatred for the steelers, but any true football fan knows when to respect a team, and i respect the steelers because they win year in and year out. yes it drives me crazy but they continue to do so. Was i happy when they lost in the SB of course because i knew that ravens should of been playing in that game. But with the schedules that the ravens and steelers have this year , it will be another classic battle of who can perform each and every week. I have the steelers going 12-4 with 2 losses to the ravens, a loss to the patriots and the colts. But picking 19th? Really, there is no way the steelers have an off year unless they become injury plagued..
This is flaccos year to take control of the division. If we can play like we did last season, and like we did in the playoffs where we virtually have had no depth at reciever, and with predictable playcalls. The infusion of young talent we drafted will come in and contribute right away. I say the ravens with the North, and beat the steelers at M&T Bank on the way to the superbowl.
Joe has to play better in the playoffs
If he gets hurt or is not performing the coaches can’t be afraid to pull him. As far as defensive ends, if we pick up another proven shut down corner we can live with who we have. Jimmy Smith won’t be in their right away, and if he is he will get beat. It takes time to learn your position and play at a higher level.
Shadow, we don’t need another shut down corner but we do need another pass rusher. Hopefully Kindle will heal and contribute in 11.
Jimmy Smith was ranked so highly because his skills translate to the NFL immediately. He is a press corner with excellent strength, speed, and coverage skills. He plays man to man so what do you think he’ll be learning?
Look for him opposite Mike Wallace in Week 1.
Shadow the ravens do not need another shutdown corner, we have enough depth at the position. With Foxworth coming back, and the ravens guaranteed to resign either Wilson or Carr, and with Webb in the mix there is no need to go out and spend unnecessary money. the ravens still have to resign Ngata, Yanda, and try to keep other critical players from leaving town. If the ravens are going to do anything in FA this year its going to be at DE, or a veteran quarterback after Bulger leaves.
The ravens are not going to pull Flacco unless he is physically unable to play Pulling a player because he is not playing well and winning is not better than sticking with the guy and losing. Flacco is the franchise quarterback, Baltimore has been dreaming for a QB like him for a long time. And Since we’ve won the past three seasons its almost expected in Baltimore and everyone is too critical of him. Pulling Flacco from a game, is pulling all faith that he can win.
We could a guaranteed shut down corner
Smith isn’t guaranteed to be anything till he proves himself. With possibly no training camp and a short season, the more experience you have the better. If Smith pans out and you have two good corners it takes the pressure off the defensive line. There is no guarantee Foxworth will be as good as we paid him to be. Pulling Flacco when he isn’t performing well just means the team is finally serious about winning. Joe is an un-mentored rookie who still made rookie mistakes last year.
An un-mentored rookie going into his fourth year? I guess guys like Hue Jackson and Marc Bulger did nothing for him. You truly are a moron and know nothing about football.
And yeah, the team isn’t serious about winning despite reaching the playoffs three straight years. And you’re dead wrong about having two good cornerbacks taking pressure off the defensive line. If you have good pressure from the defensive line, it takes pressure off the CBs because they won’t be exposed if the QB has time to throw the ball. So now that we’ve addressed CB in the first round this year, if the best player available happens to be a defensive lineman in next year’s draft, nab him.
Shadow,
Jimmy Smith was ranked so highly because his skills translate to the NFL immediately. He is a press corner with excellent strength, speed, and coverage skills.
The reason the organization is thrilled to have him is because they feel he is a can’t miss prospect. You should be very excited about that, also. Foxworth is a proven commodity and we have 5 other CBs on the roster.
I won’t address your remark regarding our QB because it’s silly.
I like Crick but he may not drop to 27th.
I respect the Steelers but they were very fortunate versus Buffalo and Miami last season and the Ravens game in Baltimore was an early Christmas gift to the city of Pittsburgh from Cam Cameron and John Harbaugh. They have issues at CB and OL and their QB can be a liability as often as he is an asset. If they insist on trying to force a hometown discount on Ike Taylor, they’ll be forced to sign a free agent corner and be much weaker for it. Polamalu is a shell of his former self due to leg injuries. Their backup corners are terrible. Roethlisberger and Arians are a dream combination for opposing defensive coordinators who like to blitz. They drafted a Pro Bowl center last year but Kemo and the rest of the gang need to improve. They also have a late bye week and I think that will affect them adversely.
As for Flacco, he will take control when the coaches implement a scheme that allows him to do so.
As for you, thanks for your service! We appreciate it!
I completly agree
The packers really laid out the blue print for the steelers, and with the ike taylor situation your right they are going to have to get a FA corner. Unfortunately for steeler fans the steelers do not spend money on free agents. So thank goodness Asomugha will not be going to Pittsburgh. And I feel that having Pagano take over the defense will only better our chances, he is more aggressive than Mattison. I just do not know if the steelers only week point being their secondary is enough to dub them to have 6 losses
But you are right, this is cams last chance. hes gotten away with excuses in the past of flacco not having enough weapons, but now we are stacked. With TE, WR, and RB all capable of catching the ball there is no excuse
And thank you very much, it is greatly appreciated!
Another note on the Steelers… the Bills handed them the game…. the phantom TD call, fumble, and subsequent calls versus Miami were unbelieveable. They were let off the hook in both of those games and played solid football… then came away with two wins. They could have just as easily been two losses. This season they won’t have a week off until Week 11. They’ll face a quality QB at least 5 times in the first ten weeks and their secondary will be tested. I expect them to be gassed by November 20th and I won’t be surprised if they are scrambling for a Wild Card spot in Week 17.
and Ben Roethlisberger…. if he was as great as many people think he is, he would have avoided staring down Mike Wallace on their final game-losing drive in the big game. He is a talented athlete but he has serious deficiencies. He has some sort of hero complex and does not like throwing the ball away. It’s cost him several concussions already and I feel his career will come to an early end unless he changes his style of play.
I agree with you: We are stacked at the skill positions. If Cam can fall and bump his head and come up with a scheme suited to our personnel, we will make another run in the playoffs.
To Joshua Stein… I agree Smith will be on the field from day one, maybe not as a starting corner, but that truly depends on if there is a training camp, he play a fair share of time. But outside of Nnamdi Asomugha who is there. Let’s be real, the chances of the ravens signing him are not very good. he has been linked to the Ravens, but with the free agents that we have i do not see it. Okay Foxworth may not be the same corner, but the production that Carr put in all year, and the way that Josh Wilson played after he was given a starting role. Outside of Asomugha, there is Jonathan Joseph who is definetly going to get the franchise tag. Outside of that every other decent corner is either tendered, tagged or resigned. If you even mention Antonio Cromartie you deserve to be slapped. JK but he is extremely over rated, and vastly inconsistent. Chris Carr is much more consistent and reliable, and maybe he only stood out as much as he did because no one else in our secondary was performing. either way outside of Asomugha we are fine at cornerback. and it is just not going to happen
To Shadow what is your problem with Flacco?
you said “Pulling Flacco when he isn’t performing well just means the team is finally serious about winning. Joe is an un-mentored rookie who still made rookie mistakes last year.”
How is the team not serious about winning with Flacco? The ravens went 12-4 last season, that isnt winning, We lost to a team that went to the superbowl. I do not understand how you could have a problem with him and what he has done since he has been with Baltimore. I would just like reasoning for such a claim.
Shadow hates Flacco and has never been able to justify that hatred. And I’ve said before we aren’t signing Nnamdi because it makes no financial sense. With Jimmy Smith in the fold, the money to sign Nnamdi needs to go elsewhere like Haloti, Joe, Rice and Yanda. Not every team has two shutdown corners because with the money nowadays, it’s nearly impossible to have that as a luxury. Shadow doesn’t understand those things.
I agree
Im new to this site, but im starting to realize he really doesnt seem to know what he’s talking about or have any reasoning for his outrageous claims.
To JCroUSAF
This was posted by someone else in this blog. It was not contradicted or he wasn’t called names because it wasn’t I who posted it. Flacco chokes in the playoffs:
Flacco has played 7 playoff games, Sanchez has played 6…but Sanchez has thrown for more yards, in less attempts, he’s thrown more than TWICE as many touchdowns as Flacco, and thrown for less than HALF as many interceptions as Flacco. Sanchez plays WAY better than Flacco in the playoffs. Someone said the Jets win in spite of Sanchez and the Ravens win BECAUSE of Flacco…how bout Flacco going 4-10 for 34 yards and a pick against the Pats and the Raven winning by 20? or 9-23 and135 yards against the Dolphins and The Ravens winning 27-9? The Ravens win (in the playoff) in SPITE of Flacco. How bout you compare playoff games against like opponents? The Ravens and the Jets both played the Colts the year the Colts made it to the SB. Colts beat Ravens 20-3, Flacco went 20-35, for 189 yards ZERO TDs and 2 ints. The next week Sanchez played the same team in the same building and went 17-30, for 257 yards, 2 TDs and 1 int. If Sanchez had played for the Ravens they may have beaten the Colts. If Flacco had played for the Jets, the Jets would have lost even worse than what they did.
Is there really any valid, objective argument on who the better playoff QB is?
Wait
I thought stats didn’t matter? You wouldn’t be contradicting yourself Shadow would you? Because that just seems so out of character for you. Here’s an idea, why don’t you jump ship and take your Sanchez/Bulger manlove and go root for the Jets.
by StuckInUtah on Jun 4, 2011 7:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You're certainly entitled to an opinion...
…but you seem to have your mind made up about Flacco and that’s a mistake. You need to do your homework on offensive schemes because you mistakenly think the Jets & Ravens run the same exact offense. You’ll learn a lot and have a lot of your questions answered but you must learn with an open mind regarding Flacco and the Ravens.
I watch the games just like you
I see what you see. Our defense gives our offense a big lead just to lose the game in the second half or have to go to OT and barely win. To offensive schemes, maybe we should run the one the Jets use because a lesser quarterback seems to perform better.
You may watch the games
but you have no idea what you’re seeing. Do you realize that Sanchize is an INT machine with hands the size of a toddler?
Do you understand Cam’s offensive philosophy and Harbaugh’s game philosophy? If not, can you understand that an excellent QB could play in one system and fail while an average QB could play in a system suited to his strengths and enjoy some success?
Omg Shadow just let it go you been talking about this forever if you dont think Joe Flacco
is a good quarterback then send a letter to the Ravens front office. explianing why. Mark Sanchez may perform better than Joe Flacco in the playoffs but overall so what. Im tired of seeing the same thing and Im tired of seeing people responding to the samething. get on a new topic and if you really want to get your self notice with this same topic over over and over again then make a fanpost/article.
It’s 2011. The playoffs is over, we lost to the steelers months ago and you could say we probably could had won the game with burger or Mark sanches but overall it didnt happen and we lost . I have faith that Joe Flacco will become a elite quarteback. nobody here thinks Joe Flacco is the almight elite quarterback and he indeed has a lot to work on just like any other great quarterback had to do before becoming elite.If some bodys responds to shadow comment with words such as moron or what ever name calling then you are very ignorant and all I can say is get over it also grow up .
I’m saying this again get over it and get on something new instead of the same thing after samething.If shadow feels like Joe Flacco is not a good quarterback then please let be and with no response
To quote the great Shadow
“Stats are for accountants.”
You bash us when we use stats to support Flacco, yet you use stats when you bash Flacco. Make up your damn mind.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
by Mr MaLoR on Jun 4, 2011 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are they my stats
Seems that’s the only way you understand football, not whether they can win the big games or not.
Haloti gets paid first
Hopefully Mount Cody smells some of that money and gets really hungry. Our D has the potential to be great.
I will be mentioning this on every 2012 mock until draft day. TRADE UP FOR VONTAZE BURFICT.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I completly agree with you
This kid is stud, and possibly the best LB in the country. Unfortunately were going to have to give up a lot to trade down from 32!!
IMO he is the best MLB prospect since Willis and would bring a lot of intensity to our team that could drop a little once Ray is gone. I have stated before that I wouldn’t mind giving up the majority to all of our draft to move up to get him. Assuming that Kindle gets healthy and our O line shows improvement. Every year we cut talented players and this year will be no different. We are pretty young all around and it’s going to be extremely hard for rookies to make this team the next couple years, so I think we might as well trade up to go get a stud since some of those later picks will have a real tough time making the team anyways.This guy’s potential is as high as being the best MLB in the league and i wouldn’t expect a drop off at all on our D if we were able to get him.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Also since we can’t trade up to get Burfict I would like the pick of Crick (I should be a rapper). He would be a great player for the 5 tech and is very versatile. I really hope we go MLB, but if not Crick would be a great pick.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
We're perennial contenders because we don't mortgage our future
I like him , also… but I don’t like anyone enough to make a move like Denver last year or Atlanta this year. We have a great team already!
Even though Ozzie doesn’t typically make moves like this, that is exactly why I could see us doing a move like that. As you said we are already a great team and our only contributors who are over 30 are Ray, Reed, Gregg and Redding. We are already a Super Bowl contender and we are very young all around. Like I said assuming our O line get’s fixed and our pass rush improves then I don’t think it would be a bad option to consider.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Hate to say it, but Ozzie just doesn’t do this kind of stuff. Burfict will most likely go in the top half of the draft, maybe even top 10. And we can safely say Ozzie will be picking in the late 20’s or 32. So making a trade like that seems unrealistic.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
by Mr MaLoR on Jun 4, 2011 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed, but I’m just dreaming while I can. I’m just hoping the combination of his reputation as a dirty player and teams not placing a high value on MLB’s to cause him to drop to the late teens where it is actually realistic. Hopefully teams jump all over one of the other positions and he slips. I think he could be a top 5 as far as talent goes which is why I don’t believe he falls as far as I would like, but I’m just going to dream until next year’s draft lol.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Burfict is a beast and it would be amazing to get him. The guy is an old school linebacker in the way he plays. But the 2012 class is full of first round talent at ILB, so a guy like Manti T’eo would be great as well
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
by Mr MaLoR on Jun 4, 2011 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah that’s the other reason why I could see Ozzie shying away from moving up too far. There could be about 3-5 MLB’s taken in the 1st and Ozzie could feel it’s just better to see who falls. If we don’t get Burfict, Te’o is next on my list. He is a tackling machine.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
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