Rick Gosselin's 1st of three mock drafts: shocking!!!!!
At least to our leader Bruce Raffel as he has the Ravens picking....you guessed it....Jimmy Smith! Do I hear wailing and gnashing of teeth? Has Gosselin descended to idiot status? That's your call.
I'll paste Gosselin's picks below but the thing that stands out to me are three things:
1) Just two quarterbacks selected in round 1. Newton and Gabbert. And with all the talk lately that 5-6-7 QB's might get taken in the first round, Gosselin is bucking the hype. My guess is at this point he is thinking that all that talk is a smokescreen and most QB needy teams will wait their turn in round 2 to select their QB.
2) Which gets us more to the point of this first mock by Gosselin: its intent is more to show a rough grading order of the players. The better players are picked first-outside of the two QB's. And this is important when he gets to pick 26 as the pick of Smith there makes sense compared to who is picked after: Smith is definitely the BPA on the board at that point.
3) But perhaps the most important thing I see here is that Gosselin has his mock ordered in what could be called a Classic pattern. For instance normally the best OT's go off the board very early, even sometimes at #1. A great left OT is worth his considerable weight in gold-and that is exactly what they get paid. DL's are slightly less valued and in addition pass rushers are more of a hit or miss thing-relatively more draft busts are DE's OLB rush guys than say OT's. So you will see some OT's in this mock going higher than most mocks have them taken. But do note that he is not promoting the OT's blindly as he has only 4 going in round 1. No Sherrod is picked here. Or Ijalana. Again, no reaching here.
The same is true for CB's (three in this mock) and RB's (two taken here). Both are traditionally highly valued positions and Gosselin is treating them as such.
Expect Gosselin's second and third (last) mock to have some trades and some reach picks as he zeros in on particular teams. Will he stay with just two QB's picked? If not and he adds a few QB's, we may see some DE's dropping to 26 and providing some competition for Jimmy Smith at 26.
Okay the picks and some comments by me:
1. Carolina: Cam Newton QB Auburn
2. Denver: Marcel Dareus DT Alabama
3. Buffalo: Von Miller, OLBTexas A&M
4. Cincy: A J. Green WR Georgia Cincy is probably the first wild card team. Do they go QB or not? Gosselin says no.
5. Arizona: Blaine Gabbert QB Misery First real surprise pick by me as what I've read says Arizona will wait till free agency to pick a vet QB.
6. Cleveland: Patrick Peterson CB LSU. Yes BPA. No, does not fill their huge needs at WR or the DL.
7. San Francisco Robert Don't Call Me Bob Quinn, DE North Carolina Best DE in the draft and it is not a close call.
8. Tennessee Nick Fairley DT Auburn
9. Dallas Tyron Smith OT USC Gosselin expects Dallas to try to trade down however.
10. Washington Julio Jones WR Alabama Yep, no reaching for QB's here.
11. Houston Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
12. Minnesota Fat Tony Castonzo OT Boston College
13. Detroit Nate Solder OT Colorado Must like Solder's potential and Detroit must address their OT situation somehow.
See? The top OT's are going earlier than expected because of the value of the position. As you will see though only one OT is picked after Solder-pick #21-so Gosselin is seeing a separation in talent in the OT's that many mocks do not.
14. St Louis Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
15. Miami Mark Ingram RB Oklahoma Gosselin calls Miami's bluff: it just makes too much sense and Ingram is good.
16. Jacksonville JJ Watt DE Wisconsin
17. New England Cameron Jordan DE California See? After the top OT's go off the board, THEN the not quite top DE prospects go.
18. San Diego Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
19. NY Giants Mike Pouncey C/G Florida
20. Tampa Bay Aldon Smith DE Missouri
21. Kansas City Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
22. Indy Corey Liguet DT Illinois
23. Philly Muhammad Wilkerson DE Temple
24. New Orleans Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
25. Seattle Danny Watkins G Baylor
26. Ravens Jimmy Smith CB Colorado Talent will out. None of the players below grade out as high as Smith. None of them. In this mock Smith is the BPA at 26. Every other player would be a reach by that definition. The question in this mock is do the Ravens try to trade down if they haven't traded up.
27. Atlanta Phil Taylor DT Baylor Four DT's taken in this mock.
28. Ryan Williams RB VPI Gosselin does not buy the notion that RB's are not valued high anymore.
29. Chicago Jon Baldwin WR Pitt
30. Jets Aaron Williams CB Texas
31. Pittsburgh Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State Seven DE's taken in this mock. Eleven DL's all told. But all but Heyward here and Taylor are gone before the Ravens pick.
32. Green Bay Brooks Reed OLB Arizona
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I doubt only 2 QB’s go in the first. You cannot wait and see with the QB position in the draft because that may just be your guy for the next 10 years and teams have to go get their QB’s. Besides the #1 overall pick, nearly every team that drafts a QB moves up to get them. I fully expect 2 teams to trade back into the first round, somewhere around our pick, and take Locker and or Ponder.
Real G's move in silence like lasagna
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1 (My guess is Locker and Mallet for late round QBs though) Locker will be definite a bust though.
by MrPoopyPants on Apr 23, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone is jumping on the Mallet bandwagon except me
Yeah he has all the tools and size but I saw him personally lose the Alabama game, throwing four picks, including two in the final minutes. He just doesn’t make good decisions, which doesn’t show in drills. I’m a huge game-tape proponent and if they produce on the field, then damn the other stats.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
People said the same things about Josh Freeman.
I watched a lot of Mallets game and usually came away impressed. I loved his accuracy, arm strength, and decision making. He’s a gun slinger, and no doubt he’ll have games like you mentioned.
I see a lot more bust potential for Gabbert and Newton than I do for Mallet. Gabbart has no balls and always makes the checkdown pass. He played in a conference where passers were supposed to light it up and he only threw 16 TDs ….in college. Gabbart reminds me of Chad Henne.
by MrPoopyPants on Apr 23, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually agree and think that Mallet could possibly end up being the best QB in this draft. I really don’t like this draft at all for QB’s, but Mallet has the strongest arm and will be taken later on and could end up going to an already good team. If he lands on a team with a good line and has some of the character issues out of the way I think he could turn into a very solid starter. That’s just my opinion. I personally hate Gabbert and think he is extremely overrated and Newton has a ton of upside, but no way is he ready to be a starter right now and if he goes to Carolina that’s exactly what he will be. Locker has every tool and looks great in his drop back and release, but nobody can figure out why his accuracy is so terrible. He has great mechanics, but terrible accuracy and you can’t be a starter if you have accuracy issues and if his mechanics are already solid I don’t know that there’s much more you can do.
No way Ryan Williams is a first rounder.
Brooks Reed is a sleeper for our first round pick.
Seattle picking a guard in the first doesn’t seem likely.
Seattle has had a hole at guard ever since they lost Hutchinson.
Picking a G would be an upgrade for them.
As far as I can tell all signs are point to New England picking a RB high, maybe round 1. That and the fact that Gosselin isn’t buying the running backs are not worth a round 1 pick meme, and Williams is thus a round 1 pick. We’ll see if that plays out, but again Gosselin is in this case not looking at who other mockers are saying here. And Gosselin is the gold standard in mocks.
Jimmy Smith could definately upgrade the position and i can see us taking him if he is there especially with the uncertainty of Carr, Wilson, Washington returning.
If we do draft him…..
Foxworth
SMith
Webb
Williams
……is a pretty good start.
by Raven_all_day on Apr 23, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d be fine with Williams over Carr and Webb (maybe even Foxworth), but not Wilson though. Wilson was our best corner in the past two years
by MrPoopyPants on Apr 23, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No freaking way Williams is a better option than Carr, Webb or Foxworth. We have seen nothing other than a few nice special teams tackles from him to have any ground for making a statement like this.
Real G's move in silence like lasagna
Carr was our best CB last season
and he and Wilson might be the top two right now, although I was disappointed how much Wilson got manhandled by the bigger WR’s. If Smith comes in, I could see him as the nickel back to start, or even the dime. However, between Carr, Foxworth, Wilson and Webb, most if not all will be re-signed and that tells me if we had a better pass rush our secondary would be god enough w/o Jimmy Smith.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Webb was awful last year. He played at Fabian’s level for everything except the deep ball.
Carr played okay for his abilities. He lacks athleticism and ball hawking ability. He’s a sound corner, but has no “wow” factor.
Foxworth is coming back from the ACL tear, and I have no idea what condition he’ll be in. Also, he’s a good athlete, but undersized. He also lacks a killer instict and plays a soft coverage.
Williams is an athletic freak with great size. If he gets his head on straight, he’d beat out almost all our current corners.
by MrPoopyPants on Apr 23, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Webb was awful last year. He played at Fabian’s level for everything except the deep ball.
How are you making this evaluation? I think Webb played very well… especially considering that he’s only a second year player coming off an ACL tear. I have high hopes for Webb and think he’s going to be a good corner for years.
From watching all of our games.
He got turned around by average WRs, didn’t play aggressively at the line, and had little ball hawking ability.,
by MrPoopyPants on Apr 24, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Naw fox is our #1. If we draft Smith, he will be our #2. Then Webb. If we keep Carr and Wilson then its…
Fox
Wilson
Carr/Webb
Smith
Williams
by Raven_all_day on Apr 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Too "Maryland-y"
for my tastes and enough with the love just because a guy is from here. Carr is by FAR our best cover corner right now and will start next year when re-signed. Fox, if healthy would also but then between him, Webb and Wilson, they would nail down the next two spots even with a Jimmy Williams. Starting rookie corners is rare and dangerous. Ben, Peyton would destroy them.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
and enough with the love just because a guy is from here.
What? Yes, it is nice to have two Maryland guys on our roster, but Fox and Wilson are our 2 best CB’s in my opinion. Many other Ravens fans will tell you the same thing. Do you think Ozzie brought Foxworth and Wilson in here just because they are from the area? I highly doubt it.
Real G's move in silence like lasagna
Fox and Wilson are both better than Carr. IMO Give Webb a season or two and he will be also.
by Raven_all_day on Apr 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bunch of things wrong with this Mock
Cincy has pretty much made it clear they are taking Gabbert. Cleveland needs help elsewhere although a CB duo of Haden and Peterson sounds real, real tough.
Steelers are taking an offensive lineman, period.
This draft is not going to happen as it is Mocked here.
aka 'Rexx'
Cleveland should take one of the top two WRs. Hopefully Mike Holgrem isn’t a good GM though.
by MrPoopyPants on Apr 23, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to say it but Cleveland could pack a punch this year. Rob Ryan is gone though so it will be interesting to see where the defense will turn.
by Raven_all_day on Apr 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. They were a lot better than there record indicated and are definitely on there way up. I think they finally found their QB of the future, Hillis came out of nowhere and they likely could be adding Julio or Green (hopefully not). I have no doubt they will be passing the Bengals easily and will be a team we really need to watch out for.


















