2011 Wide Receiver Draft Prospects That I Believe Could Benefit The Ravens
by jazz20 on Feb 3, 2011 1:32 PM EST
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WR Torrey Smith
Height: 6’1
Weight: 205Ibs
School: University of Maryland
Torrey Smith is a wide out with blazing speed and has had his best year in 2010 gaining 67 receptions with 1,055 receiving yards. Torrey Smith cannot only play a role on the offensive side of the ball but as well play in special teams as a kick returner,where he had averaged 25.9 yards per kick returns also returning two for a touchdown in 2009. Torrey Smith is projected to be taking in the second round but for teams desperate to have a deep vertical threat he could be taken in the first round. The Ravens could use a player like Torrey Smith because he extremely fast, has good hands, and can bring some value to the kick return position if David Reed gets hurt/gets more involved in the offense.
Highlights of Torrey Smith click here
WR Titus Young
Height: 5’11”
Weight: 175Ibs
School: Boise State
Titus Young like Torrey Smith is very fast and can play on special teams as a kick returner. Titus Young has good hands, solid route running, and the ability to make plays every time he gets the ball, gaining 71 receptions with 1,216 receiving yards and 9 touchdowns in 2010. Titus Young has been compared to NFL Receivers such as Santana Moss, DeSean Jackson, and Mike Wallace; I believe if he is available in the second round the Ravens should draft him because he can give the Ravens that vertical deep treat that they were lacking on the field last year also possibly be a replacement for Derrick Mason once he retires.
Highlights of Titus Young click here
WR Greg Little
Height: 6’3
Weight: 220Ibs
School: North Carolina
Greg little was a running back but in 2009 he was converted in to a wide receiver gaining 61 receptions and 724 receiving yards. Greg Little performance in 2009 was impressive for being a first time wide receiver and unfortunately he wasn’t able to show in 2010 how much he improve because he was suspended. Greg little has good speed, very physical, tough to bring down, good hands, able to jump high for high passes, and is a good blocker. Greg Little seems to fit what the Ravens love and that’s tough and physical players; his skills as a wide out may not be considered polished at the moment but he still could be steal in the third/forth round of the draft.
Highlights of Greg Little Click Here
WR Dwayne Harris
Height: 6’0”
Weight: 205Ibs
School: East Carolina
Dwayne Harris is a wide out with good hands, good speed, very physical, and hard to bring down when opposing defensive players go to tackle him. Dwayne Harris Playing style seems similar to Anquan Boldin with his toughness and some experience as being a quarterback; He can work the middle of the field, has a good burst off the line of scrimmage, gets good yards after the catch, can be dangerous as a punt returner, and gets good separation when up against man coverage .If the Ravens were to draft Dwayne Harris he would provide some good depth at the punt return position and could become a very reliable third/forth wide out.Dwayne Harris is projected to be taken in the third/forth round and I believe whatever team picks him could have a player that would be a impact to their team right away.
Highlights of Dwanye Harris Click Here
WR Leonard Hankerson
Height:6’3”
Weight: 205Ibs
School: Miami
Leonard Hankerson has good size, speed, route running, great leaping ability, and body control. Leonard Hankerson has been making noise lately with his performance at the senior bowl and you can tell that he has all the skills to be a great wide out in The NFL; In 2010 he had 72 reception with 1,156 receiving yards and 13 touchdown also he broke the record of former wide out/hall of famer Michael Irvin for most touchdowns catches in a single season as a Miami Hurricane. Leonard Hankerson is projected to be taken in the second round and if the Ravens are able to draft him then the Ravens offense could be dangerous.
Highlights of Leonard Hankerson click here
WR DeAndre Brown
Height: 6’6”
Weight: 239Ibs
School: Southern Mississippi
DeAndre Brown has all you could ever want from a wide out with his speed, good hands, toughness, leaping ability, and size. DeAndre Brown best year was in 2008 gaining 67 receptions, 1,117 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns but since then his production has falling; DeAndre Brown could had been acknowledge as one of the top wide out coming out of college to this year draft but injuries and work ethics/character issues has held him back. The Ravens could draft Deandre Brown because he has great potentials to be a dynamic player but I see him going in the later rounds such as the fifth/sixth round in the draft.
Highlights of DeAndre Brown Click here
WR Randall Cobb
Height: 5’11
Weight: 186Ibs
School: Kentucky
Randall Cobb is very versatile player that has played Quarterback, Wide out, and Running back. Randall Cobb is very elusive in open field, great runner after the catch, and can play on special teams as kick returner/punt returner. Randall Cobb gained 84 receptions, 1,017 receiving yards, 7 touch downs, had 55 rushing attempts, 424 rushing yards, 58 passing yards, and 3 passing touchdowns. Randall Cobb could be taking in the third round of the draft but if The Ravens are around to get him imagine how he could be used on our offense such as the wildcat, as a running back, the slot, the screen, and let’s not forget he can be used on special teams where he could be kick returner or punt returner.
Highlights of Randall Cobb click here
WR Jerrel Jernigan
Height: 5’9
Weight: 190Ibs
School: Troy
Jerrel Jernigan is one of the fastest wide out coming out of college to the draft with good hands, instant acceleration, and quarterback experience. Jerrel Jernigan is also a physical player that can make things happen once he has the ball in his hand also he can be used in the wild cat as a quarterback or a runningback. Jerrel Jernigan gained 84 receptions, 822 receiving yards, six touchdowns, 45 rushing attempts,322 rushing yards,3 touchdowns, 41 passing yards, and passing one touchdown. I highly believe if The Ravens draft this player he will give them everything they need and won’t disappoint but some people may over look him because of his height but don’t let that fool you. I think Jerrel Jernigan maybe taken in the third round of the draft.
Highlights of Jerrel Jeringan click here
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Great post Jazz
I agree on all the guys you posted above. Judging by your list, my top 5 would go like this.
1. Torrey Smith
2a. Leonard Hankerson
2b. Titus Young
4. Greg Little
5. Deandre Brown
Alot of people are starting to say how much they love Greg Little out of UNC. He is HUGE for his height (6’2" 220) and a very long strider. Following the ACC closely, he is someone th
I would say #1 on my wish list would be Julio Jones, but a trade up will be needed to grab him.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
thank you :) . I didnt want to talk about Julio Jones,Jon Baldwin, and A.J Green becuase I figure
they would be gone by the time we have to pick . Out of everybody on my list I like Jerrel Jerigan the best he maybe a little short but he is a real playmaker and has the speed like Titus Young.Greg Litttle is just a beast and if we get him plus some other good wideout then we should be fine on offense
Very nice list
IMHO, we should go Titus Young or Brandon Harris First round, if we go titus young then lets get a big cb in the 2nd rd maybe aaron williams from Texas, 3rd Round lets go Oline or pass rusher, and then the 4th round we should target a big receiver like Deandre Brown or even Dwayne Harris – HE LOOKS REALLY good, what do you guys think of a combo of TITUS Young and Dwayne Harris for our team next year, maybe teamed with a good physical corner ??
Just Win Baby !
Deandre Brown is probably the best wideout in the draft he has so much talent but
I wouldnt take a chance on him since it has been said he has character issue and gives up on plays like Randy Moss. I mean the Ravens could change him around which is a good thing but who wants to get a player that could possibily give you a headache becuase of his immaturity
Dallas passed on moss and moss repayed them with being a hall of fame reciever. who care about character issues, at the end of the day everyone wants to get paid. Performing on the field is all that matters.
by Raven_all_day on Feb 4, 2011 1:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you right but he gives up on plays would you want a player that doesnt give his all sometimes or
a player that gives his all all the time. Deandre Brown has all the talent anyteam would ever want to have and its possible that he could change things around like with his work ethics but I would hate that we draft him and we play some big game like against the steelers and he has to running a certain route and he gets lazy and not but much effort into it
I wouldn’t use a first on Titus Young. I love Titus Young, bu t he’s projected to be a 2nd or 3rd rounder so it wouldn’t be wise to use a first on him. I do still hope we get him though and either Torrey Smith or Hankerson to go with him. Can’t decide out of the two which one I like more.
If Young rips it up at the combine and his pro-day, he might very well jump into the first round. If he shows great hands and runs a 4.3, I could see him as a first round guy.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Yeah because of his size I just think he would really need to tear it up at the combine for him to possibly get into the first. As of right now though he is a 2nd or 3rd rounder, but nothing against him I still hope we get him because I like his skill set.
If any guy has a good chance to be a game change like D Jackson or Hester I sure as hell would use a first on him. There are only a few out there like them, let’s not miss out.
by Raven_all_day on Feb 4, 2011 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But please let Julio fall into the teens and lets us trade up for him. That would be the greatest gift I will receive all year, even though it probably won’t happen. One interesting thing I heard though is if we don’t get a new CBA agreement in place before the draft we won’t be able to trade players to move up or to aquire other picks. That could be interesting for some of the teams trying to trade players for draft picks.
Of all my realistic scenarios for our first round pick, Julio Jones is #1 on my list. The dude is a freak and is built like a horse.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Agree, the thing I love is he is physical and a great blocker. Pretty much any big run you see will have a WR making a big block down the field and having Q and him blocking should open some things up once rice breaks into the secondary. If we get gaither back and healthy we don’t have very many glaring weaknesses and would love if Ozzie could find a way to move up and get him.
I have read from multiple scouting reports on Julio Jones that he is the best blocking WR to come out in the last 5 years. If there is one thing we love for our WR, it is one that is a good blocker. I am sure Ozzie will take notice of how much that could impact our run first offense.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I hope he does I truly believe he will be a better pro than AJ Green. He can impact the game so much even whe he doesn’t have the ball. Do you think if he were to fall in the teens that ozzie would realistically move up to get him? I know he moved up to get Flacco, but what was the most he has moved up in the first?
I mean, technically we moved down to grab Joe, but I get what you are saying. Ozzie doesn’t trade up alot simply because trading up means you have to give away some other good picks to get where you want, especially in the 1st round.
So judging by this trade value chart lets say Julio Jones falls to 13, which would be the Lions pick and is right before the Rams pick who could REALLY be in the running for Jones to give Bradford an elite weapon. Looking at this chart, the 13th pick is worth 1,150 value points. Our 26th pick is worth only 700 points, which means we would need to compensate the other 450 points in draft picks. The trade could look like this.
- Lions 1st (1,150) for Ravens 1st (700), Ravens 2nd (320) and Ravens 3rd (140)
See this is where Ozzieology comes into play. Do we really want to give up our 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up 13 spots for ONE player? Now, in my opinion I would like to make a trade for Jones. But it might have to involve future draft picks because we need players right now to load up on for next year. And we have all seen how Ozzie can hit on 2nd and 3rd round pick where a player who might have a 1st round grade for Ozzie falls in the 2nd and we grab him or a guy with a 2nd round grade falls in the 3rd and we grab him.
Once the combine starts, teams are going to just need to look at Julio Jones in shorts and an underarmour and see that this guy is first round material, possibly top 10 pick material. I don’t think he will fall past St. Louis at 14, maybe if a top 5 player like a DL or such falls to that pick.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
true and that’s what I was afraid of. I can’t see Ozzie giving up a 1st,2nd and 3rd to move up and go after him. I guess all we can do is hope he drops more, but I agree that I can’t see him slipping past 15.
Well, alot of people didn’t see Dez Bryant falling past the top 15 or so last year, so Julio might have a chance. But I think that had more to do with character issues than it did talent. Julio doesn’t have any character issues and is a far better WR than Bryant is in my opinion.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Yeah Dez Bryant Chracter issues is what made him fall that but there knowing
telling the Julio Jones guy may fall down to use but I doubt it becuase teams that pick before the Ravens like the Chargers, Rams,Browns, and etc need help in the wideout postion
Exactly right. Like I said above, Julio might even be picked in the top 10 by a team like the Browns.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
typo yeah Dez Bryant Character issues is what made him fall that far but
there is know telling Julio Jones may fall down to us but I doubt it becuase other teams that pick before us such as the Panthers,Browns, Rams,Chargers and etc all need help in the wideout postion
I can’t get enough of that Titus Young highlight video. He is so nasty.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
You know, I hear all of you saying that we need a big speed guy but really put it into persepctive for a minute.
Why was Boldin so effective in Arizona? Because he had a big athletic wide-receiver in Larry Fitzgerald. Arizona’s offense opened up due to the constant demand of coverage on Fitzgerald which allowed Boldin to get more open. So if we want the same effect, we should look for the big athletic guy who can still burn you with his speed. i.e. Leonard Hankerson. Leo IMO is one of the top 3 WRs in this years draft, and I think he would be the best fit in Baltimore. He has great hands ( but catches with his body sometimes) pretty good route-runner, If you give him a foot on a defender he will burn them with his physicality and speed, and on top of that he has every relevant Miami receiving stat to compliment him. With a guy like Leo on the Offense it could open up more plays for Boldin and other receivers. That seemed to be our problem on offense throughout the year, we had alot of good receivers, but not a single one of them demanded double-coverage. Is leo going to be that guy? Probably not right away but 2-3 years down the road I think we see him start demanding the secondaries respect. I think this guy could be the key to opening up our offense. Another guy who is an athletic freak and a quickster, is Maryland’s own Torrey Smith. I think he and Leo are essentially the same player, except Torrey has more speed, while Leo has more height.
Also, i’m not going to I love titus young. Sure he’s not the biggest guy in the world, but speed kills. And that was another factor our WRs seemed to be lacking this year.
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I am perfectly fine with getting Hankerson in here. I can definitely see Ozzie making a move for him, maybe even in the first round.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I would love to see that
I think he is definitely 1st round worthy.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
If he tears up the combine and pro day, he could very well slip into the first round. He just needs to show he has better hands than we saw in some games the last few seasons.
But the guy has more receptions, yards and TDs in a single season than the U greats of Irvin and Andre, so that should tell us all how talented this guy is.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 5, 2011 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think in the highlight film he showed he has great hands. But I think sometimes he loses confidence late in a losing game, and starts thinking he has to do more than he can in order to make plays. He ends up over-thinking and messing up, which resulted in the drops near the end of the season. Also our QB situation was in limbo in the last 4-5 games, so that could be another reason why he started to become less potent. Put him in a good system like the Ravens’ with a talented QB like Joe, a good O-line, And some veteran WRs surrounding him, and I think he will become a great player.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 5, 2011 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah see MaLoR? I actually put thought in my comments when it comes to mu “U” boys lol
But seriosuly I think Hankerson, Torrey. and Julio are the 3 best WRs for Baltimore’s system.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Little
Is the best physical specimen on this list. Big, fast, physical, and has good hands. Not afraid to run through a safety or corner. Its good to have a guy that fights for every yard, will run past you or through you. has the same mold of a Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson. i was hoping we would have taken Demaryious Thomas last year but we didnt. I hope we get this guy, he can stretch the field and run a drag route and looking to bull doze the first guy.
Little is a monster.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I think we can definately get Greg Little in this year draft he really talented but I see
him going into the third round
Love that the Boy Genius is saying this. I think Donte and Housh are probably not coming back.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 5, 2011 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Personally I wouldn’t mind if we did not sign either. If Mason retires that could leave us short on experience, but agree with DeCosta that we need a new look as far as receivers go. I really would like to see some youth at the WR spot next season.
IMO:
1. Mason’s time is up, he needs to retire
2. TJ is outta here
3. Stallworth might stay
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
We also can’t forget about my boy David Reed. I can see him getting a little bit more of aresponsibility this year. And possibly getting the Slot WR spot. So our WR could very well look like:
1.Boldin
2.WR via FA or Draft
3.Reed
4.Hardy
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I would like to see. I am from Utah, so I watched David Reed a lot and said before the season started that he is a play maker if given a chance. He was great for our return game now I hope he can get more involved on offense.
Agreed. Another guy I’d like to see get more snaps, is Dickson. He seemed to play very well in heap’s absence, and I think he an make an impact if given the chance.
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Agree I would like to see more 2 TE sets and get him involved in the passing game. With our lack of height he could have been real useful in the redzone along with heap. Hopefully Pitta can get more of a chance too because his hands are like glue. We could throw some interesting looks at teams with our TE’s
I say this becuase of the value he brings on special teams the Ravens dont like
to have thats not starters that cant contribute on special teams that was the reason why Antwan Barnes was traded
Thats a real nice list
I wouldnt have a problem with seeing any of them playing in Black n Purple.
One guy I would throw on that list is Mount Union WR Cecil Shorts. The dude is an absolute beast. Ive personally watched him play.
http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/2010-11/bios/shorts%20iii%20cecil%20p63z
Sure Mount Union is D-3, but you still cant put that against him when he puts up those kind of numbers and has all the measureables you want to see in the NFL. This guys potential is sky high
Hmmm, interesting prospect. Seems like a beast, but it is against D3 secondaries.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 5, 2011 12:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If Im not wrong this guy Cecil Short plays on the same college team thatr Pierce garcon
had play before and look at pierce garcon now he is the starter for the colts. Pierce Garcon is also good friends with Cecil Short .
Oh of course. There are plenty of great players that come from small schools. Look at Jerry Rice, a Mississippi Valley graduate.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Whatever happened to that Canadian league WR that started generating some buzz late in the season?
Apparently he was the best WR in the CFL for about 3 years, and was starting generate some buzz in the NFL.
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People realized he played in the Canadian league.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol. Very true. What do you think of Jon Baldwin? I think he’s another good talented WR who could slip under the radar. Whats your opinion on him?
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Huge body. Guy is freakish big and very fast. Alot of people don’t talk about him because he had poor stats at Pitt, but their QB play was horrendous. He will most likely be a first round pick.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 5, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Great post but
Next time let me know you are doing this and I will post it on Front Page, as it is too good to just be on the sidebar.
I just might edit and re-post it on Front Page right after the SB talk calms down. Thanks!
aka 'Rexx'
U expect us to run a wild cat?
by Raven_all_day on Feb 5, 2011 4:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no I dont expect us to run a wild cat but just saying that Randall Cobb
is a good candiate for a wild cat fomation since he has experience as a quarterback,runningback, and etc.I do like the wildcat and it would be cool if we start using it again
Yes, Cecil Shorts
and Garcon both went to MU. I know its D-3, but Shorts is the next great WR out of a small college IMO. The dude can be a mid round gem.
And I wouldnt mind us drafting Cobb either. All-Around playmaker that makes things happen with the ball in his hands. Pretty awesome he was just a 2 star recruit coming out of HS, and 3 years later hes a big time prospect in the NFL draft.
And the CFL WR you all were discussing is Andy Fantuz. He signed a future contract with the Bears, and there was another one, Emmanuel Arceneaux, who was signed by Minnesota about 2 weeks ago to a 3 year deal. IMO Arceneaux will be way better than Fantuz. Arceneaux will be 24 in September.
And I would definally not have a problem seeing Baldwin in Black and Purple. Big body, has speed, good hands, deep threat. That would be a very strong addition to our Offense
Shorts will be a 4-5 round pick, according to CBS sports, which is the site I think has the best draft coverage besides SBN’s Mocking The Draft.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011_WR
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Thats just about right
I think if he impresses at the combine he will be a 3rd-4th round pick, and IMO will be a big time mid round gem.
Get it done Decosta and Ozzie! I think this guy has one of the higest ceilings out of any prospect in this years class
It’s a little inaccurate though. It has Leo listed as 6’2. lol
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 5, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I will probably do another post like this one but i be talking about lnebackers
which I think the Ravens may pick a linebacker in the first round like a Martez Wilson
I’m more than willing to go with Ozzie on whomever he decides to draft, but I’m really pulling for offense on at least the first pick. Ideally (in my mind, at least), we re-sign Gaither to play LT, and then draft whatever kind of receiver Cameron needs to make his offense work in the first round. We would then be free to pick up BPA in subsequent rounds.
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Agreed, I actually wouldn’t mind us grabbing two WR in this draft. If we can get some youth into our WR core our whole offense will be young and should be set for awhile. This will allow us to really stack up on depth in the following years draft and defensive picks are our specialty.
I’d love to see that happen. But while defensive picks are our specialty, receivers seem to be our kryptonite. I’m trying to maintain the mindset that we’re due for an amazing receiver.
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Agree with that. We also didn’t have the best QBs in the world when we were picking all those WR in the past. I think anyone we bring in here now with Joe is going to work out somewhat. And there is some damn good talent in the first 3 rounds at WR this year. Really excited because it is basically a given that we are getting a WR this year.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
And there is some damn good talent in the first 3 rounds at WR this year.
I know nothing about college ball and draft prospects, and even I’ve heard this. I’m really hoping for the best. Assuming Gaither comes back (a major assumption, I know!), a deep threat is our only major need on the offensive side of the ball. Drafting a wide receiver or two basically would set us on offense, freeing up plenty of picks on the other side of the ball. I feel like a pass rusher is the most pressing concern, so I think my personal priority in the draft would be WR, pass rusher, WR, followed by some combination of offensive line depth, safety, corner back, running/full back, and linebacker.
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I am hoping that Kindle can recover because he could really boost the pass rush and replace JJ on passing situations or maybe pass him altogether because he has the talent. Hopefully Kruger can keep working hard and get better as well.
I agree with everything said. I feel like I’ve heard enough rumours to warrant optimism about Kindle; however, every positive rumour is accompanied by much more negative speculation. If he can come back from his head injury, it could really be a coup for us; he definitely has a tonne of up-side.
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It really would be nice because that was a steal getting him in the 2nd when he was originally projected as a top 20 talent. If he gets healthy this draft could end up being a lot more productive than a lot of people are saying. I loved the way Cody kept his weight together and he seemed to improve as the season progressed. I really think he will hold down the Nose Tackle position for years to come. Dickson was good when he got reps and feel he will be fine replacing Heap. I have Watched Reed a lot since I am from Utah and have said as soon as we drafted him that if you give him a chance he is a playmaker. He showed that on kick returns and his only offensive touch was an end around that went for 15. I really think he will be a solid slot receiver for us once he gets more comfortable in the system. Most WR’s take about 2 to 3 years to develop as well.
Yea, this draft class is going to be one that looks damn good 2-3 years from now. We set ourselves up nicely to replace some key players IE Gregg, Heap, Mason.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Well, Kindle is going to get a shot. Harbaugh and the front office have already said so. So that is a step in the right direction.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
That’s assuming he’s fit to play football in the future. I hope he is.
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Well of course. IF he is healthy, Kindle is getting an opportunity. The coaches know what kind of player he could turn into to if he decides to stop drinking so much.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Kindle
Will still be a great player for us in the long term picture. I think hes matured a lot lately, and the DUI really seemed to wake him up and bring him to reality, and hes done great since ive heard.
Hes gonna be playing with a huge chip on his shoulder in 2011, and ready to show the world what a great player he is. I think we have our dominant Pass rusher on the opposite side of Suggs in Kindle, and it was a shame we didnt get to see it in 2010, but 2011, it will be known.
I sure hope so. Choosing him as our first pick than him not ever playing again possibly is going to hurt Ozzie’s image a bit, because Kindle had ALOT of character concerns coming into the draft and they have obviously proven true.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
How does a freak accident tarnish Ozzie’s image?
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Because I can only imagine that after getting a 3rd DUI a couple months ago, that this guy was yet again drunk when he fell down the stairs. Kindle has just a history of getting into shitty situations, and he did it again and again here.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I agree but sometimes young ppl at his age just
dont take things seriously like they should and it takes many mess ups for them to get it right and hopefully Kindle has learn his lesson becuase he not in a postion where he can afford to mess up again
… I can only imagine …
I’m totally convinced.
… after getting a 3rd DUI a couple months ago …
So, not only should Ozzie have been able to look into his crystal ball and see that Kindle would suffer a serious, career-threatening injury, he should have looked even further into the future for more evidence that Kindle was more trouble than he was worth? I’m no entirely sure I’m following your logic here.
Kindle has just a history of getting into shitty situations
Couldn’t the same be said of several players on our roster? Lewis might have murdered somebody; perhaps he could have split his head open while trying to murder somebody else in the future! Suggs might have domestically abused a bitch; perhaps he could have split his head open while domestically abusing a bitch in the future! Stallworth got drunk and ran over an immigrant; perhaps he could have split his head open while getting drunk and running over immigrants in the future.
Please tell me you see how ridiculous it is to claim that Ozzie has any culpability in Kindle’s current situation.
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I see what you are saying about how Ozzie had no way of telling if Kindle would continue with his troubles. It is ridiculous to say that Ozzie had any knowledge that Kindle would get in trouble, because obviously he didn’t being as that we chose him with our first pick.
However, MANY people far before the draft even started had Kindle possibly slipping in the draft not because of talent, physical ability, lack of a love for the game….but for his behavior off the field. This was a guy who had a DUI and another incident where he crashed his car into a house because of a bad decision of texting while driving.
Yes the accident he had was a freak accident, you don’t hear of that stuff often. But then he went out a few months later and got yet another DUI and the other 31 teams who passed on Kindle for these exact reasons were somewhat correct for not choosing Kindle earlier.
I in no way am saying Ozzie made a poor decision for drafting Kindle, I think he is going to be a stud once he sees the field and the coaches and front office do as well. But reading from outside sources, they are all basically saying “I told you so” when discussing that Kindle has a history of putting his career and life in danger by poor decisions. I think that statement holds true right now judging how he has been held out of football because of off-field issues, just like everyone said would be his reasoning for not being a successful NFL player.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
… they are all basically saying "I told you so" when discussing that Kindle has a history of putting his career and life in danger by poor decisions. I think that statement holds true right now judging how he has been held out of football because of off-field issues, just like everyone said would be his reasoning for not being a successful NFL player.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. I can’t take anybody seriously if they say “I told you so” in reference to Kindle falling down the stairs. By this metric, any pro football player that owns a two (or more) story mansion is “putting his career and life in danger” just by virtue of having those stepped death traps lurking around the corner in the middle of the night. The issues that caused Kindle to fall in the draft have absolutely nothing to do with the reason he isn’t currently playing football, and anybody to date that’s opined to the contrary has zero evidence to back it up.
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I understand your take on him falling down the stairs. That was a freak accident. But you seem to be forgetting that he got yet another DUI while trying to recover from that head injury IE a poor off the field decision.
Staring at the world through my rear view.
But you seem to be forgetting that he got yet another DUI …
He’s had one off-the-field incident since signing with the Ravens that could invite punishment from the league. I’ll worry when he starts getting suspensions.
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So you are not worried that he put his life in danger by driving drunk?
Staring at the world through my rear view.
Not a bit. He’s still alive, and is apparently in great shape. Until he starts missing games because of general retardery, I don’t really care what he does outside of Sundays.
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which is why he fell to the 2nd round
it was a value pick with calculated risk. i don’t blame ozzie that it blew up this year b/c that was the risk all along.
I think hes matured a lot lately, and the DUI really seemed to wake him up and bring him to reality
so, a DUI makes him mature and wakes him up, but falling down 2 flights of steps and breaking his skull didn’t?
A murder charge reduced to obstruction of justice might just give this angel his wings.
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Let me ask you this Amp. After Kindle got yet another DUI, do you see his “freak accident” as being him simply waking up and falling down TWO flights of stairs because he couldn’t see? Or do you have even the slightest indication that alcohol was involved in this. I don’t have an answer for this because I really just don’t want to think that he was drinking that night and hurt himself, but others do, and that includes people within this fanbase.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I think if he was drunk the doctors probably would had
known that also it probably would had been broadcast in the media that he was drunk
Yea, I feel that way as well. There was just so much talk of that type of stuff after his 2nd DUI. I never bought into it and just support what Sergio is trying to accomplish right now. We really need Sergio the football player to contribute to this team in a big way and we need it right now.
He sort of reminds me of the guy from the great John Candy film The Great Outdoors who got struck by lightning 66 times, just can’t seem to stay out of harms way.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
… I really just don’t want to think that he was drinking that night and hurt himself, but others do, and that includes people within this fanbase.
I imagine these “others” all fall squarely into that same segment of the fan base that have absolutely no evidence to back up their accusations. No amount of DUI’s is going to prove that he was drunk that night.
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Sounds good to me. If you ever get a chance Amp, head over to Mocking The Draft and browse around there a bit, they got some very insightful stuff over there. I’ll make sure to keep this site and you in particular updated on the many live mocks we will be doing soon.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I appreciate it. I keep telling myself I’ll start paying attention to the draft in the future, but my alma mater’s football team has been undefeated for fifty years — if you know what I mean — so it’s been hard to get into it. Heading into this off-season, I feel like I have a pretty good idea of what the team needs, so it’s just an issue of putting names to the roles.
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Agreed which is why I would like to pick more than one. We could use two, but with our track record of picking WR’s in the draft I will take 1 out of 2 working out for us. I Really would have liked to get Dez Bryant last year if the cowboys didn’t jump in front of us and get him. I really think the ravens would have strongly considered taking him instead of trading with the broncos.
Only way we would get two is if both Housh and Donte walk, which I see most likely happening. This would then call for a high level of competition in OTAs and training camp with Reed, Hardy, Smith and 2 rookies battling it out for the #3 and #4 spots.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
We could use two, but with our track record of picking WR’s in the draft I will take 1 out of 2 working out for us.
I definitely agree. Our needs at wide receiver (in order to make Cameron’s offense work) are severe enough that I’d be willing to throw away two picks to get one NFL-ready receiver.
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That’s how I really feel. We definitely could use some depth and help at a few positions, but we don’t really have a major weakness anywhere on our team. Hopefully we can find that deep threat and Ozzie can work his magic in the later rounds and provide some depth at other positions. I would like to get a MLB this year or next year as well. I don’t feel that we have Ray’s replacement on our roster yet and would like to get someone in here that he can mentor and maybe play beside him until he is ready to hang them up.
I don’t feel that we have Ray’s replacement on our roster yet and would like to get someone in here that he can mentor and maybe play beside him until he is ready to hang them up.
I concur. I think we have one or two MLB’s that could play foil, but a true replacement for Lewis would be a great find in the draft.
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I agree that we have some guys that can play next to him, but like you said not a true replacement. I think Ellerbe could be the guy to separate himself from the pack and be a solid LB for us.I just know he got into Harbaugh’s doghouse somehow and hopefully can get out of it because I really like his upside.
I have high hopes for Ellerbe. I think he has incredible upside, but he may lack the integrity to realize it. The bottom line, though, is that I’m not willing to bet the franchise upon it. My plan (assuming I had any authority to make such plans) would be to keep him at Jack until he earned the Mike spot. Until that time, I’d keep an eye out for Lewis’s replacement. Nothing breeds success like competition.
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Not alot of elite talent at ILB this year in the draft. To replace Ray, we might have to do it in free agency. Some pretty good FA out there that could play MLB.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Yeah that’s what I have seen as well.Hopefully we can just find a diamond in the rough later on in the draft. I really would like to get a safety as well, but this draft doesn’t seem too solid in that department either.
Assuming that Landry leaves via free agency and Reed isn’t long for this league, how do you feel about Zbikowski playing SS and Nakamura playing FS? I won’t argue that we’d be losing something special with the departure of Reed, but I don’t think that such a setup would immediately put our secondary in the bottom half of the league, either.
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I agree that we can get by with them at the safety positions, but I think we really lose the intimidation factor that Reed gives us. Everytime a QB drops back to pass he has to know where Reed is at all times. Even when he doesn’t make plays he can effect the QB’s decision. I think they will be average safeties, but I don’t see great safeties in them. Love them as backups, but not sure I love them as our regular starters.
I don’t really like the idea too much. Zbi and Ruki are great role players, but might not be starters. I wouldn’t mind giving Zbi a chance to takeover for Reed in the future, but I think there might be better options out there via the draft this year or the next.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
Exactly how I feel. I feel they are great backups, but feel we are average at best with them back there.
Agreed. Zbi might be a decent starter, but we need someone with better athleticism to play FS. I like Zbi at SS and possibly a high draft pick at FS in a season or two.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
My sentiments exactly. I thought that Zbikowski filled in admirably for Reed earlier last season, but I think that he’s more of a strong safety. I like him replacing Landry, if necessary, but I don’t know about putting Nakamura in at free safety without seeing more of what he can do outside of dime formations. I don’t know that I’d be a good judge of that replacement in general because a drop-off from Reed is a certainty; a defense just won’t be able to do the same things without Reed as it could with him.
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some people are saying Martez Wilson could could be the replacement of Ray Lewis
well not one can ever Replace his greatest but you get what Im saying
Yea, that dude is a beast. He has a chance to go 1st round, definitely will be a top 40-45 pick.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
If anyone wants to get a look at him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeXDO4o9NU0
Wilson is a bigggg guy. Nearly 6’5" and hits like a train.
"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco
I wouldn’t say replace ray, being he was compared to Simeon rice. If we are going to get a pass rusher to compliment suggs, that is the guy. If we traded up in the 2nd round to get this guy that would be lovely.
by Raven_all_day on Feb 7, 2011 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ozzie needs to draft a WR in round one or two. We missed on Dez Bryant last year, and need a high ceiling young WR for Joe to grow with. Trade up or trade down, I don’t care. Just get it done Oz.
I would like to see us trade up, but not in the first round.
Doubling up in the second round would be ideal in my opinion, but not at the cost of of first rounder. Who knows what the CBA might bring, or how much room will be added to the roster with a potential 18 game season. But as things are now, Ozzie would have trouble squeezing 7(or more, not sure how much we actually have) rookies onto our roster. Trading later picks for an earlier one would go against what we’ve seen Ozzie do in the past, but it wouldn’t hurt losing out on “some” depth.
Our 1st rounder will be used on BPA, I personally can’t see a WR being one of Ozzie’s top 26 players by the time our pick comes around, but maybe one falls to us. A top rated O-Lineman, pass rusher, inside linebacker, or a corner will fall to us. I could even see us take a running back if there’s one there. I can’t wait to see who we drool over the most once the combine starts up, it will be interesting.
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