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Ravens Get Back To Basics, Run Over Browns 24-10

The Baltimore Ravens looked like the team we all expected today in Cleveland. Ray Rice and Ricky Williams were unstoppable all day and the Ravens played well on defense and okay on special teams. Rice ran for 204 yards and a touchdown and Williams had 76 yards and a touchdown. Lardarius Webb continued on his career year by adding a 68 yard punt return for a touchdown in the fourth quarter.

The rookie class of 2011 continued to show why GM Ozzie Newsome is a genius. Pernell McPhee had two sacks and came close to more. Jimmy Smith had a big interception when Cleveland was still within striking distance. Rookie WR Torrey Smith didn't see the ball much as he was covered by Joe Haden, but he had a huge third and long conversion in which he almost broke free for a long touchdown.

Star-divide

Baltimore once again kept the game interesting until late by fumbling and missing field goals. Joe Flacco still needs to take care of the ball better in the pocket and when scrambling. Flacco made some good throws today and converted key third downs. The Ravens play much better when they let Joe work off of the running game instead of trying to pass to get the lead and run to keep it.

Overall the Browns were out-matched all over the field. Their defense played admirably but their offense is not ready for top tier competition. The Ravens offensive line was the hero today as they opened huge holes for our running backs all day. Baltimore did what they needed to do to win the game and got back to who they are. Sometimes I think that Cam Cameron is like a little kid that just wants to play with all his new toys at once but doesn't quite know how to use them yet. However, Cam and the offense got back to what they are good at this week and if they continue to play this way the Ravens will be very hard to beat for the rest of the season.

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Loved the way we controlled the ball. It was nice running the ball the way we have the last two weeks. Statistically it didn’t look like Joe did great, but I actually am very pleased the way he’s been throwing the ball lately. Joe and the receivers seem to be getting on the same page and our line has played awesome. Offensively we are starting to get things figured out. We got to convert those field goals (or field goal attempts today) into TD’s more often, but love the direction we are heading.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

4-5 drops today we had? Joe did fine by me. The difference between us and the Packers, Saints, Pats, etc is that their QBs HAVE to play good for them to win. The Ravens can beat you any way they want.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 4, 2011 7:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

thank gosh we have some talent because between cam and joe we are lucky to be where we are. joe had rookie numbers again against the last place team and cam kept us out of the end zone early. lucky for the browns couldn’t take the lead and really exploit cam. nice win, ill take it but not a complete effort.

how many times does harbs and cam not think through whether we will go on all 4 downs and, depending on field position, use all 4 downs. we punted for a net gain of 12 yards when we were just out of our slumping kickers range. we pass 2 out of 3 times on the 3 yard line when were mauling them with the run. stupid stuff better left in the first few games of the year not revisited every week. humbug.

by raven on Dec 4, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

joe had rookie numbers again against the last place team

Did you not realize we were going against the #1 ranked pass defense…..in shitty conditions. If not for 2 of those many drops, Joe walks out of there with a 100+ rating.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 4, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s just how he is… no matter what happens, this is how he sees things

fatalism

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

MaLoR, I don't get it

The Ravens won and whether it is 24-10 like we did or 45-3, which it should have been, it still counts as one win. I get that, and we owned the line of scrimmage in the run and the o-line gave Joe all day to throw. The conditions sucked but Joe did not have a good game. Glad he didn’t throw a pick but he didn’t throw a TD either. He held onto the ball too long on that fumble and his delivery is so slow he got stripped. His overthrew players again and it is alarming to me how many times he has either overthrown open receivers or the receivers made spectacular catches on balls way over their heads. His QB Rating was 66, and two less drops would not have had his Rating anywhere near 100. He’s my QB now and hopefully for a long time, but I am not blind. He did not have a good game.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

no one said Flacco had a great game… I’m saying he played well even though he never had a chance to get into a rhythm. He had Evans for a TD but the throw went a little too far outside. What would make you happy?

Ravens ran the ball 52 times and won going away. It’s a statement…
I don’t care if Joe breaks records as long as the schemes fit the personnel and the players execute as well as they can.

I don’t understand what people want from a QB who played a damn good game on the road and in the rain and strong winds… but I know if I say what I really think, I’ll get run off the board…

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Nutella tastes really good with vanilla wafers

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm satisfied with the win

but won’t say a player played good if he didn’t. Flacco was okay and Rice was a beast and we won, regardless of the score. But we did leave a ton of points on the field that would have been good to see a more efficient offense against a team that we should have put away in the first half.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Flacco did not play bad at all. He had a couple drops and there was a couple balls that DB’s made extremely good plays on. He did exactly what he had to do today. The fumble was his fault and that’s something he really needs to work on still, but he didn’t look bad at all.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Bruce, he didn’t break any records and he has to improve on clock and pocket presence…no argument.

But he’s a damn good QB and one player on a highly structured 53 man squad. He’s doing his job pretty damn well, in my opinion. And he has a bangin fu manchu. Name another QB with his talent and facial hair…

by Evan Skev on Dec 5, 2011 12:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Other than the Fu Manchu

I agree. I just think he didn’t have as good a game today as I would have liked to see, especially when he had the run game working so good as a play option.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, if not for a few drops, we are praising Joe today for his performance. The WR are letting him down often. The guy throws the ball on the money.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He did not have a good game.

I said he did fine by me, never said he had a good game. And if not for drops (once again) those words aren’t even coming out of your mouth.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

The drops weren't the issue w/ me

I see them too and know they’re not his problems. But all season as well as yesterday, he has been either throwing too high or overthrowing, and without pressure and to open receivers. It is concerning to me, but this team is so good this year it may not matter as he is definitely good enough to win a SB right now!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Quite a dominating performance today. Good old fashioned stuff the run down their throats.
I guess me pick for this weeks hero (Ricky Williams) was not correct. Oh well.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 4, 2011 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

I just picked him because…you know..he’s not the star, and I would have looked like a swami if he picked yesterday to bust out with a crazy game. Picking Rice would have been too easy…he’s almost always good (unless he only gets to touch the ball 5 times)

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by FrankWyt on Dec 5, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

76*

and yeah he was good but Rice was just next level with 200 yards and like 7 YPC. Importantly him and Leach did well on short yardage situations.

According to NFL.com that game took his YPC average from 4.0 to 4.5 for the season and his rushing rank from 15th to 7th.. Criminally underused so far.

by Roa on Dec 5, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That
Criminally underused so far

Sums up the indictment.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Dec 5, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Center of attention

How nice is it to have a 5 time pro bowl center on the bench? Gurode showed his worth and why we have him. Should Birk get seriously hurt, it is sweet to have Gurode and not Mattison backing him up.

by BRWils on Dec 4, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

great point… lots of talent everywhere on this team

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is exactly why I am all for giving him a 1-2 year contract to take over for Birk after this year while we try to find our future Center.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 4, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Besides Mattison was released, I believe

and Gurode obviously is much better at center than he is at guard.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. I definitely think we should re-sign him then look for a center later in the draft or the following draft. He looked great out there and he appeared to be getting even more push than I seen from Birk. Really solid back up and I feel completely comfortable with him as our center.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we may resign him

and draft a project, rather than looking for someone to come in and start.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Dec 4, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think that’s for the best. Especially with how common it is to find C’s later in the draft or who don’t even get drafted at all.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Mattison could be it,

although he’s been around for a while.

Oh, and on a different note, who’s not missing Chris Chester? This guy.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Dec 4, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

he was cut already I believe.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

So he was.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Dec 5, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

well… 9-3

indy
@SD
browns
@cinci

The boys have set themselves up nicely for a run. There’s still a lot of work to do but if they stay healthy,,,who knows

bengals, titans, raiders, and jets at 7-5. Ravens stay healthy and focused and win the division = home playoff game against one of those teams for a chance to go to the AFCCG

I like it

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

Wouldn’t mind a nice Pittsburgh loss just to make things a bit more comfortable. Going to be a HUGE 49ers fan in 2 weeks.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 4, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

rothlis & arians will crap out at least one game but i dont bother watching… there’s so many holes on that team… particularly their corners… ripe.

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

As good as the Pats are on offense

their defense is so bad they gave up 373 yards to Indy in the air and had to hang on for the win.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I noticed that… check out Orlovsky’s sta line and let’s see if we can trade Joe for him straight up… what do you think?

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm...I'll keep Joe but

hope Orlovsky doesn’t go off like that next week!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea he won’t

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Dec 5, 2011 6:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Eh,

the Colts scored their last TD with 36 seconds left. They weren’t winning that game.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Dec 4, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The simple fact

that Indy could put up 24 on NE makes me think the Pats cannot escape either us or Pitt in the playoffs and as good as NE’s offense might be, their defense will seal their fate in the post season.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Gorrer plays good everytime he plays. Hope we hold onto him. Jimmy is still making mental errors that end in tds

by Raven_all_day on Dec 4, 2011 9:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He’s also making INTs and is clearly an asset to his team

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Dec 4, 2011 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We kno that. But now we know why he isn’t starting yet. If he can cut that part out he will ne great.

by Raven_all_day on Dec 4, 2011 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It’s to be expected though. It’s a tough position to come in as a rookie and it all comes with experience. The fact that he is making plays is great and he’s right where he should be. This is only his 3rd game of significant time, so I think he’s doing great. Once he gets the mental side figured out he’s going to be a stud.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Gorrer's "hit" was definitely a fumble

and I can’t understand how the refs blew the call after review. This whole fumble thing is a huge issue the NFL has to review.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the rules are deliberately confusing and difficult to interpret…

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

and certainly

not enforced consistently week to week.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s also making INTs and is clearly an asset to his team

That is for damn sure. Two games he has been beat on dumb mistakes, but the same two games he has jumped a route for a BIG TIME interception, which is what great players do. You can teach how to play zone coverage, you can’t teach the abilities like he has though.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

The good things he does will be repeated and increase

and those bad, rookie mistakes will get less and less and he will be one of the league’s best in a couple of years.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

How good was this draft by Ozzie?

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Talk about an immediate return on investment!

Forget about our first rounder, who obviously is going to be a great one but we haven’t begun to see the best of him. Torrey and Pernell McPhee by themselves have made this draft a gold mine!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The D was dominate and

the OL was terrific, but—the Red Zone is still closed to TDs way too much. That can’t happen against the teams we will face in the playoffs, or its Sayanora, baby way too early.

Webb is a Grade A Stud. He has learned from his model. I hope Smith takes advantage of being on the same team with Reed and learns as much as he can—Webb, Smith, Gorer, Williams are all young and talented guys, and can make the defensive secondary exceptional for years to come if we hang on to them and avoid injuries. I wonder if Webb can take Reed’s place in a couple of years (I hope he plays for at least 2 more years!) as FS? That would give terrific flexibility.

by Sam25 on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

great post, by the way… again. Why don’t you start an Indy thread so we can have some fun?

by Evan Skev on Dec 4, 2011 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

Hello all, from The Falcoholic

I just wanted to come over here to say one thing. While I haven’t seen Joe play much this year, my head is officially made up on the Joe Cool Matty Ice war. My decision…is Joe. I’m fed up with Matt Ryan, he can’t hit a wide open receiver deep, and he is just ungodly annoying in the pocket. I’m sure I’ll catch A LOT of flack for this if any falcoholics read this, but just my two cents.

by dirtybirds233 on Dec 4, 2011 11:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Hey!

Watching NFL Red Zone, I was shocked the number of times early in the game that Ryan overthrew wide open deep receivers, that obviously was the difference in the game that us Ravens fans were rooting for them to win.

Thanks for nothing!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 4, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It happens. Both have had that problem at times, but I still think both teams ended up with solid QB’s. It is nice to hear this though and hope some Ravens fans read this and realize we have it pretty good and Joe isn’t the only QB who struggles at times.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 4, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re both really good and both have room to improve. I wouldn’t trade either of them for anyone except Rodgers. They’re young and really good.

by Evan Skev on Dec 5, 2011 12:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks. We love Joe.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

QUick thing

over on the nfl website i was watching the highlights on our game link and in the description it reads, “Ravens keep pace with the Pittsburgh Steelers atop the AFC North.” Doesnt that just annoy you, I believe it would be the opposite way around.

Scott Hines

by shines on Dec 5, 2011 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

Yea, it is quite horseshit to continue to hear that crap.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN loves the Steelers

It’s so obvious and nauseating.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

shines was talking about the nfl website

you can’t really think ESPN loves anyone not named Tebow or Rodgers can you? The Steelers were like the 5th or 6th game highlights on SC last night. Showed like 3 or 4 highlights of the game. They talked about Rodgers and Tebow for about 35 minutes.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 5, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yea i completely agree

and this wasnt like a shot at you guys as Steeler fans, its just these little things pop up on a regular basis for us to believe its a simple mental error. Like last Saturday when NFL Network did the replay of our Thanksgiving Day game; in the description it said “Jim Harbaugh and his 49ers head cross country to take on older brother John and his Baltimore Colts.” I kid you not! ( You can ask Nasty Nestor, he was all over that one haha) but its just starting to seem like a lack of respect.

Scott Hines

by shines on Dec 5, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I can understand that.

It seems like no team from the AFCN gets any love from ESPN. Not sure about NFLN because I don’t watch it much.
I don’t really think it’s a lack of respect though.I believe someone has mentioned this, but the Eagles are a bigger story than either of our teams…and they’ve lost 8 games. It’s just that we aren’t sexy teams or sexy stories. (good or bad) The networks have been putting their focus on teams like the Pats and Packers,(and their housewife approved dreamy QB’s) or train wrecks like the Eagles for awhile now it seems.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I won't even link it

But Jamison Hensley, formerly of the Sun, now of ESPN, has a ridiculous article saying that after yesterday the Steelers are the most complete team and class of the AFC, since the Ravens, “were as sloppy as the weather at times.”

Way to make snap judgement from one week… Did he happen to see the previous week – our complete performance vs. 10 win 9er’s and the Steelers barely beating the Palko led Chiefs? Or maybe our dismantling of the Steelers in week one, or complete team effort to beat them at their house in week 9.

I was never a fan of Hensley with the Sun and I’m sure as hell not at ESPN.

by DT711 on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I said below, he is trying to not look like a homer to the rest of the AFCN fans. Everyone thought of the Cinci, Pitt and Clevland fans that he would just ride the nuts of the Ravens. To me, it seems like he is trying to be buddy buddy with these people so they continue to come back and read his high school level journalism.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

they just said that because the Steelers played at one, so for 3 hours they had one more win. I don’t think it was a slight against the Ravens.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 5, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice try at justification. NFL and network football coverage are like the news in Baltimore. Every story begins something like “Giant earthquake and tsunami in Japan – No Marylanders involved!!!”. And every mention of football by the media begins, “Today the Steelers… and then the rest of the league – meh”.

Cam Cameron - the creator of the Prevent Offense™, and best-selling author of "150 Short Runs Into the Line on 3rd and 10"

re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs

by GrumpyOldBird on Dec 5, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't really trying to justify anything man

I don’t really care at any point of the regular season whether one team is keeping pace the other or not. As far as every story on ESPN being about the Steelers. I think that is your anti-Steeler bias. ESPN has 3 topics they constantly rotate around. 1) Tim Tebow 2) Aaron Rodgers/Packers. 3) Whoever the “bad boy of the week” is.

Everything else gets a solid 15 seconds of face time.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Hensley, on ESPN, made a post last night about the most complete team in the AFC. Shocker, he chose the Stillers.

I don’t mind being the under dogs though. Our team always seems to play better that way.

you remember that play, from that game, on that day. sweet, right?... right...

by El.Dude on Dec 5, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Hensley just has some serious insecurity issues after coming from The Sun. He did not want to look like a homer after writing for the Ravens for so long. The very first story he put up when taking over the job was about how dominant the Steelers can be.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I just posted about this above. Article was nauseating.

by DT711 on Dec 5, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

On post gazette and trib review they have stated every week that the steelers wins have kept pace with the ravens. NFL network and espn are nothing more than hot air. Its about tebow, romo and Rodgers and thats all its been about for Weeks. Stick with the sun and the Beatdown. If I wanna know what someone thinks of the ravens, I look here or the sun. Simple.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Dec 5, 2011 12:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Its about tebow, romo and Rodgers and thats all its been about for Weeks.

Don’t forget the Eagles. Them being 4-8 is FAR more important to talk about than the Ravens or Steelers leading the AFC.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

My 5 standout players from today

- Rice
- Leach
- McPhee
- Grubbs
- Webb

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:49 AM EST reply actions  

Where did this McPhee guy come from?

Hes looked great in the film I have seen on him.

Formerly known as Steeler_

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by Michael Hewitt on Dec 5, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Last pick in the 5th round this year out of Mississippi State. He is 2nd on our team with 6 sacks. Freaking rookie, tearing it up for us…..typical Ozzie draft pick.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Leading tackler and team catain

for Miss State Bulldogs. Cant understand why this guy with the “Michael McCrary” motor went so late!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Cant understand why this guy with the "Michael McCrary" motor went so late!

DeCosta it was basically because of a lack of sacks when in the SEC.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m so glad he fell to us. I can’t say enough how big of a steal this was. It’s also not like he is just a situational pass rusher like we use him for. He’s actually very good against the run.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

He was supposed to be better against the run even.

Good prospects for the future on him. Hopefully he doesn’t have a Suggs period and stays on a high.

by Roa on Dec 5, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That defensive line played great, shutting down Hillis.

by Raven_all_day on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Our d-line rotation

is so sick, everyone on that group could start on probably 28-30 other NFL teams!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 5, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

How set are we for future?

Long term guys: Ngata, McPhee, Cody, Jones, Kruger all should be around for 3-4 years minimum. Our DB’s are young and getting better each game. Pollard looks like a keeper. We can focus on restocking our LB’s this off season. I see no reason our D can’t get noticeably better in the next few years (scary thought for the rest of the league).

by DT711 on Dec 5, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

not to mention next year is one of the better MLB drafts to come out for a little while and we have Kindle and Mcadoo still developing. Too much young talent on this team.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Next Draft

I think we load up on linebackers, a legitimate returner, a safety, some O-linemen and maybe a QB late. Unless injuries or FA take their toll, we are set at RB, TE’s, WR’s, DL, CB’s -what’s not to like?

I think Ozzie could do the “BPA” for rounds one and two and then draft for need the rest of the way.

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"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

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by vlad755 on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

a legitimate returner,

Would love to get Tavon Austin out of WVU. He is a RB/KR and has had some huge returns for WVU. He is also a local boy (product of Dunbar) so he would be coming back home.

Not sure if many people have seen his Dunbar highlights, but they are sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBjUKd0lOEE

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

this!

hell yes! Tavon Austin is the truth, he might be a little undersized, but we really wouldnt need him making much of an impact on offense, were pretty young over there and only going to get better. But as a return man he’d be perfect, hes got crazy body control and hes one of the shiftiest guys Ive ever seen play.

Scott Hines

by shines on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I like those little 5’9" 180 pound returners. Quickness and agility is what makes for great returns, and Austin definitely has that.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The Greatest

Returner in Ravens history, Jermaine Lewis, was a little guy. Tavon could be him again very easily. Lewis was drafted in the fifth round. Ravens have had good fortune hunting in the fifth round…

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Dec 5, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Even in

High School he was doing a great job of setting up his blockers. He also was very quick in squaring up his pads. Very instinctual runner. Nice link/clip.

I checked out the Tavon Austin/LSU highlight clip. LSU basically has an NFL defense and he held his own against them. Great hands.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Dec 5, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I see no reason our D can’t get noticeably better in the next few years (scary thought for the rest of the league).

And 2 of our most dominating defensive performances this season (SF and Clev) have come without Ray Lewis. Him being out could have been a blessing in disguise for 2 reason. (1) it showed us a glimpse into the future that we still can indeed be an elite defense without him because of guys like Suggs and now Jameel stepping up HUGE. And (2) it allows him to get back to 100% healthy for the playoffs. I can guarantee that if it were the playoffs right now or Superbowl, Ray Lewis would be in pads.

When we get him back, and the way we have finally found out how to dominate our opponents on defense, man it will be scary.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

it showed us a glimpse into the future that we still can indeed be an elite defense without him

It does shows the ravens defense can handle there own without ray being in the game but its not like ray still isnt there coaching those guys and giving them motivational speeches. It’s no telling how the defense would be if ray was absolutely gone meaning not on the team any more.

by jazz20 on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely still motivating the players and correcting their mistakes. But I am more worried about how we play on the field without him than I am not having him coaching us up from the sidelines.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Thing is what are the chances he doesn't come back in some capacity?

I’d say little to none. At worst he leaves and takes a year or two off for himself. He’s going to be around the team as long as he can and we’ll be better off for it.

by Roa on Dec 5, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is his last year playing, especially after we in the SB.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed and we have so many contributors who are not even in their prime yet and still learning. A lot of young guys who are playing at a high level and still have not reached their ceiling and it’s a beautiful thing to see. Now hopefully we can see some of that on the offensive side the next couple years and see Laquan and Doss and some of the OL to do the same. This team will not be going anywhere for quite some time.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is was a good win, and a boring one.

Once I saw how bad their run D was, I thought this game was going to be exactly like the NE playoff game. It was similar, Joe just had a few more completions and yards.

Their DE Shead, great pass rusher, awful run defender. He doesn’t know how to set the edge at all.

Gorrer > Carr : Carr never jumps routes like Gorrer did. Even though Gorrer dropped that pick 6, it was still one hell of a play. Also the “fumble” he caused, great tackle and punch.

The playaction to Leach in the flat, needs to be retired for a few weeks. The end around just needs to be retired. Ditto for the Wildcat.

I expect to see the same type of game when the rematch occurs. Boring, but it’s a win.

you remember that play, from that game, on that day. sweet, right?... right...

by El.Dude on Dec 5, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Also the "fumble" he caused, great tackle and punch.

I definitely saw 3 steps with the ball in possession. Terrible call, not sure how there was evidence to reverse that.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, awful call

The ref said, he did not possess the ball long enough to have possession…. As far as I know it’s not a time issue, it’s if you complete the catch and make a football move. The WR clearly tucked the ball and took 2.5 steps after the catch.

by DT711 on Dec 5, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

The playaction to Leach in the flat, needs to be retired for a few weeks. The end around just needs to be retired. Ditto for the Wildcat.

Yes, yes and yes. Once I saw Tyrod in there, I nearly lost it. As Ari Gold once said “Think of it like the holocaust, NEVER AGAIN!”

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Gorrer is a(nother) steal by Oz

Crazy to say that we don’t even really need our best CB from last year (Carr) other than as insurance if a couple guys go down.

by DT711 on Dec 5, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Castoff from STL, now making big plays (almost) for us. When Jimmy and Carr came back, I was excited to see them again, but also a bit upset because I knew it meant less Gorrer. His play against NYJ was great to see. Our depth everywhere on defense is insane.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Gorrer > Carr : Carr never jumps routes like Gorrer did. Even though Gorrer dropped that pick 6, it was still one hell of a play. Also the "fumble" he caused, great tackle and punch.

I seen Carr jump a route last year I think it was against the patriots when he picked off tom brady and he did it in 2009 in the play offs against the patriots as well and Carr had two force fumbles last year

by jazz20 on Dec 5, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, Carr has forced a good amount of turnovers for us since he’s been here. He is a better nickel CB, good at zone defense type plays. Gorrer seems like he can match-up 1 on 1 with WR because he has the size and speed. Not a bad problem to have between these two guys.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The end around just needs to be retired. Ditto for the Wildcat.

I dont think it should be retired Tyrod did get positive yards and when cam used the end around in seattle seahawks games they worked. Just because one player on the browns team was able to stop the end around doesn’t mean it should be retired because it definately could pay off against another team

by jazz20 on Dec 5, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because one player on the browns team was able to stop the end around doesn’t mean it should be retired because it definately could pay off against another team

Pretty sure that play has been stopped more than once. The Tyrod play wasn’t an end around either and it wasn’t the play call that got positive yards it’s because Tyrod is so athletic and made a play.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that play has been stopped more than once.

To my knowledge the time cam rebirth the end around was against the seattle seahawks and he used both Torrey Smith and David Reed whom both had postive yards for a first down. Cam used it again against the browns but it didnt work out

by jazz20 on Dec 5, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He used it earlier in the year too and it didn’t work. That’s not a play that consistently works and should probably not be used more than 2 or 3 times an entire season and that’s only if you have a D that is really over pursuing.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He used it earlier in the year too and it didn’t work.

If he used it early in the year like you said that makes it two end arounds that did work and two end arounds that didnt work. Overall Cam hasnt used the end around play often or as much as last year

by jazz20 on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with end-arounds is that when they work, it is a good gain. But when they fail, it is a major loss of yards. They are a 50-50 play most of the time.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Judging by B.A and Cam I have come to this conclusion. They must include at least 2 to 3 stupid plays in their book that they keep running for no other reason than to piss off their fan base.

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by FrankWyt on Dec 5, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have to say I agree. Every game there always has to be some head scratchers. Nothing will ever beat the draw play for Flacco against the 49ers.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I always feel like Cam is a 5 year old child, who calls plays to spite the media / fans.

They say the play action to Leach in the flat doesn’t work. Eff them, I’ll call it 6 times in a row.

/cam’d

you remember that play, from that game, on that day. sweet, right?... right...

by El.Dude on Dec 5, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, Leach has been an alright pass catcher for his career. He has 87 catches for 571 yards and 4 TD’s in his career.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think it should be retired Tyrod did get positive yards

Only YOU see something positive from a 3 yard gain on 1st and goal with our backup QB. Great teams don’t use gimmick plays like that. NEVER AGAIN!

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially when we have been pounding it on them straight up all game.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. We have 150+ rushing yards at that point with Rice, Ricky, Leach, and we run a gimmick. Stick to what we are good at!

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great teams don’t use gimmick plays like that. NEVER AGAIN!

I bet if Tyrod would had got a touchdown you wouldnt have said that

by jazz20 on Dec 5, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

And I bet if my aunt had nuts, she’d be my uncle. It didn’t happen because it was a dumb play. NEVER AGAIN!

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great teams will use trick plays, but not that wildcat crap with their backup QB. Just because it was a 3 yard gain doesn’t mean something great came from it. That could have been a play where Rice got 5-6 yards up the middle after him and Ricky had gashed them all day.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. I can see Cam calling it if the O was struggling and trying to light a spark or something, but you don’t do it when you are moving the ball at will against them. More times than not it results in a bad play.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And even if it did result in a TD or got us to the 1 yard line, I still would hate that play.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m with you. It just doesn’t make sense to use it in those situations.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved it when they tried 4th and short and I loved it when they put in Tyrod.

Who said they would still hate the play if it went in for a TD? That doesn’t make sense… The play is in the book to give teams plenty to plan for and to cause an opponent to make a bad read sometime.in the future…

Are.there any poker players here

by Evan Skev on Dec 5, 2011 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly I don't mind Cam willing to go for stuff like that.

In this situation though I can only imagine him sitting there with that internet meme troll face on thinking of how to screw with me.

We were getting like 4-5 yards every running play. Cleveland’s defensive line couldn’t shed a block much less make a stop worth a damn all game. Why not just let Yanda/Oher/Leach and Ricky do their thing and pound it into the endzone?

by Roa on Dec 5, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I just said why… Let’s break this down so it doesn’t turn into another fight

If you state Ravens were smashing with the run, you are correct. However, if you state that previous performance is an indicator of what will happen at the goal line, you are incorrect.

I think tyrod is an excellent athlete with a natural winner’s mentality. I don’t mind him getting the ball in his hands when he’s cold.off the bench because I feel he doesn’t feel the game or the moment is too big for him. I’m not worried about a turnover or negative yardage play.

I also like that teams now have to scheme for the Ravens potent standard offense along with a potentially deadly wildcat O. This takes valuable time during game week and can cause a defender to make a fatal mistake when he sees Tyrod take the field.

I really love the calls and I’m no cam fan. Love the Beatdown though!

by Evan Skev on Dec 5, 2011 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

along with a potentially deadly wildcat O.

Using it one time for a whopping 2 yards is not what I would call deadly. Sure, lets try that play on Pittsburgh in the playoffs and watch Timmons and Troy come in for a 1 yard loss.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Taylor can run and throw accurately. Troy is no longer scary… his career is ending. He’s slow and punch drunk. He’s a liability in coverage and not the pass rusher he used to be. Timmons is good but nowhere near fast enough to collar Taylor.

Is it that difficult to see why adding another wrinkle to the O is a great idea?

by Evan Skev on Dec 6, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

We were getting like 4-5 yards every running play. Cleveland’s defensive line couldn’t shed a block much less make a stop worth a damn all game. Why not just let Yanda/Oher/Leach and Ricky do their thing and pound it into the endzone?

Exactly why I hate that play. What happened right after we ran that damn gimmick play? Rice ran it in for 6 yards for the TD.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I said I would still hate that play even if it went for a TD. Desperate teams use those stupid gimmick plays to try and win, great teams do not.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

draft 2012

I think if we could get a real LT, that would be our greatest need. Also, why are we set at WR? Boldin and Evans aren’t getting any younger. Wouldn’t it be great to have our own Antonio Brown to Torrey’s Mike Wallace? I know they’re just rookies, but Doss hasn’t done anything this year and Laquan very little.

by Brian Adams on Dec 5, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

WR’s usually take a little longer to transition to the NFL and both have shown flashes so that’s all you can really ask from them at this point. I agree though that I wouldn’t be against going for another WR just not in the first. We could benefit from a bigger WR though.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We could benefit from a bigger WR though.

Ive seen a few mock drafts and scouting reports saying Alshon Jeffrey out of USC could fall late in the first or even in the 2nd round. Wouldn’t mind getting a hold of him if this is true.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Boldin and Evans still have 3-4 quality years left in them, and Torrey will only get better.

But hey, if Alshon Jeffrey or Michael Floyd want to fall to our pick in the first round, I got no problem with that.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I wouldn’t expect them too, but if they did I certainly wouldn’t be against it. Jeffrey just worries me with how BIG he is. I don’t know if he will be able to stay a WR with how huge he is. he looks like a D end running down the field.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The knock on him has been weight issues.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think he may have to transition to TE if he gets any bigger. He’s as big or bigger than Calvin, but nowhere near as fast.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If floyd gets his head on I really like him.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Dec 5, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

and

I hope we’re done with David Reed.

by Brian Adams on Dec 5, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

How many bad games has he really had? 2?

Before that he was looking like one of the most dangerous KR’s in the league and plenty of people wanted him to get a chance on offense.

by Roa on Dec 5, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

And one of those 2 bad games could very well cost us a first round bye in the playoffs because of his 2 fumbles and dumb unsportsmanlike penalty.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 5, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

DIng! Ding DIng!

This.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Dec 5, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

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