Ravens Need More Production From Wide Receivers
by lastcallbmore on Dec 26, 2011 7:00 AM EST
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The absence of Anquan Boldin showed up more on the stat sheet this weekend than it did to the naked eye during the game. Joe Flacco only completed two passes to a wide receiver the entire game against the Cleveland Browns. Both to Torrey Smith.
Smith finished the day with two catches for 38 yards with a long of 29. Flacco actually targeted Smith seven times but for whatever reasons they were only successful for two catches. Smith also drew an important pass interference penalty in the first quarter that lead to Baltimore's first touchdown.
Lee Evans was targeted four times but was held with no catches. Evans was wide open on a number of plays in which Flacco did not see him or chose to go to another player. Every time a play was designed to go to him he was either covered or the ball was badly overthrown. It is no secret that Evans and Flacco are not on the same page. It may be time to stop trying to force the ball to Lee and just hope that he can make plays as the second or third option. Maybe these two can develop some chemistry by accident because forcing the issue does not seem to be working.
Tandon Doss was playing as the Ravens third receiver and did not see the field much. Doss was targeted one time on third down and the ball was under-thrown. I'm not sure if Doss ran his route too deep or if it was just a bad throw but he did not look fluid or comfortable as a receiver or on special teams.
Flacco finished the day 11 for 24 for 132 yards with two touchdowns and one interception. A quarterback rating of 73.6. Seven of Joes eleven passes were to running backs. Three to Ray Rice, two to Ricky Williams and two to Vonta Leach. Flacco was a perfect seven for seven on attempts to his backs. Maybe Baltimore should sit all of their wide receivers and have Rice, Leach and Williams line up wide in a spread formation to get Joe's completion percentage up.
The other two catches were made by tight end Ed Dickson. Dickson could have had a dominant day had he hauled in two beautiful passes that bounced off of his hands in the third quarter. Flacco did not look in Dickson's direction again after the two miscues.
Tight end Dennis Pitta is known for having, perhaps, the best hands on the team. It is a mystery to me as to why he did not even get a pass thrown his way. Pitta has been a staple on the Ravens offense in big third down situations and is a perfect solution for a quarterback having a tough day completing passes. Maybe Baltimore didn't want to show all their cards before this week's huge game in Cincinnati, although I am pretty sure the Bengals have a good grasp of what the Ravens do on offense.
It is great that Baltimore can spread the ball around to so many different positions in the passing game but they will have to find production from someone else in their receiving core if they want that first round bye. If the Bengals are able to bring consistent pressure by rushing only four then Baltimore will need receivers that can break coverage. With the possibility that Marshal Yanda may miss this weeks game, pressure from the Bengals defensive line may be a forgone conclusion.
I do not think that Lee Evans or Tandon Doss will magically start tearing up the field this week. Baltimore will either need to run the hell out of the ball or get Pitta on the field and max protect for Flacco in the passing game. Either way something will have to change this week or the Ravens will be looking at an extra long road trip throughout the playoffs...
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At different turns the blame could go every way. Sometimes it was bad routes by the WR others Joe missed open guys, that leads to an overall bad day.
A Ravens fan on the wrong side of the country!!
by Christopher Atwood on Dec 26, 2011 9:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
We definitely need more, but it’s a little difficult to expect much. You just can’t expect much production from 3 rookies and a 30+ WR coming off an injury and in his first year with the team. Outside of Torrey I don’t think we will get much. Hopefully Lee will finally step up, but just got to wait and see.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Im not sure if Flacco chemistry will improve with Lee Evans, Tandon Doss, and Laquan Williams
before the game against the bengels. The Ravens may actually need to call up Flaccos old reliable target aka Mason because you cant be out of sync like they showed saturday and Im aware that Mason is 37 but he still can be a solid number three option . I would love to see Tandon Doss tear it up but is it really worth the risk to go in to a game that really factors in atleast getting the ravens the first round seed or second round seed in the playoffs also the steelers are still on the ravens heals
Mason’s done Jazz.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
well his stats are way better than Lee Evans and I know you probably thinking that its not fair to say that because Lee Evans
is still out of sync with Joe Flacco but he definately has suck with his drop passes that hit him right in the hand. Both Lee Evans and Mason are averageing 3.3 yards after the catch but Mason has 170 receiving yards and Evans has 74 yards.
Overall really its not even about just re-signing mason because any other wideout thats out there that knows the system would be a good idea to sign as well. I’m just worried about the ravens offense lack of chemistry and its no telling if Tandon Doss and Laquan Williams are ready to really step in to play in game that really determines if the ravens are going to get the number one/two seed or be wildcard team in the playoffs
well his stats are way better than Lee Evans and I know you probably thinking that its not fair to say that because Lee Evans
Lee has also been injured most the year and Mason has now been cut 3 times this year. Masons not exactly lighting it up. I’m not denying Lee has been bad, but Mason isn’t going to help.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
you’re worried about lack of chemistry so you want to bring someone in who hasn’t been with the team all year. Great idea.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
you’re worried about lack of chemistry so you want to bring someone in who hasn’t been with the team all year. Great idea
if im not mistaken but when the Patriots traded for Deion Branch in 2010 his chemistry with Tom Brady was like they have been playing with each other for there whole career. Deion Branch was orginally a wideout thats was drafted by the patriots and eventually went to the seahawks but when he return to the patriots in 2010 it had been four years since he was a patriot.
Branch had good chemistry with Brady in the past when he was a patriot in 2002-2005 and when he returned in 2010 he played great also his first game as a patriot in 2010 waa against the ravens where he had 9 receptions for 98 yards. if Tom Brady and Branch can do it then Joe Flacco and Mason can do it with no problem
isnt ray rice nothing but Check downs for Joe ? well in that case why not have another check down
. I’m not saying the ravens should sign mason and make him the number one or two wideout but in fact the number three until Boldin comes back. Lee Evans and Torrey Smith are the speedy wideouts that can go deep but we have seen that they can be inconsistent at times and some times dont get open but if the ravens had a reliable number three wideout that can make first down catches like Mason can then that opens up more space for Evans and Torrey to do what they do best.
The Ravens dont need Mason but unless Tandon Doss shows he can make plays then I think its the best idea to re-sign him because he knows the system and its no telling when Boldin will be back
I happen to agree with this
Mason is definitely not the player he once was, but I think what happened to him this season, and his desire for a ring, will make him humble enough to accept a 3rd WR role, and let’s face it, we’re not gonna get more production out of Doss or LaQuan than we could out of Mason. And Lee Evans isn’t exactly tearing it up, so having Mason take Reed’s IR spot is fine with me.
Well it looks like Harbaugh seems to be fine with the young guys but i hope
the teams to decides to make a change soon atleast sign Mason or even Kelley Washington just for insurance purposes.
Kelley Washington I'd have to pass on
Has he even been in the NFL since he left here? He was a good 3rd down target for us, but I feel like the young guys are just as good.
Has he even been in the NFL since he left here?
yeah he played for the chargers last year and was with them during preseason this year but got cut. if the ravens want to go with the young guys then thats cool but i have no idea what they can bring to the table besides Torrey Smith. Lee Evans going to have to play alot better as well and hopefully his chemistry with flacco is alot better.
Rice is a check down
Torrey has been doing some back to marker stuff also. to give him just another check down is not going to win us anything. If he vhad not been cut twice with dubious stats and I thought had some gas for yards after a catch i might be less harsh but I do stand by my earlier post
Better get that rhythm down soon
Well Joe better practice up before Sunday’s game because Cincy is going to bring it hard. He never seems to be on rhythm with his wide receivers. He obviously can put the ball in the right place as was shown in that long Ray Rice catch on Saturday. Is it just that these guys aren’t familiar with each other? Haven’t they been practicing all season? I know Evans was out a long time but Smith has been around all year. Here’s a question – Is Lee Evans worth millions a year for 4 catches? He is a proven and talented receiver but Joe barely can get it to him. Joe and Derrick Mason had a rhythm from day one. Missing Anquan! I believe Tandon Doss is the next great receiver if they will just give him a chance.
Flacco Flunko
Joe has had a very poor season. He has underperformed in half his games. His QB rating is mediocre. His deep throws are often inaccurate. He holds the ball too long and takes far too many sacks. He is not elusive in the pocket and resembles a whooping crane when trying to scramble. He often doesn’t see open receivers and tries to force throws into tight coverage. When trying to elude tacklers, he doesn’t protect the ball and is prone to fumble. All the above problems have been apparent since his rookie year, but Joe and the coaching staff have been unable to correct them. His uneven performances are a major reason for the Ravens losing record on the road. If Joe doesn’t mend his ways against the hungry Bengals on the road, the Ravens will not win the division and will be on the road for the playoffs. That probably means one and done. Joe is in his fourth year as a starter. His lack of progress is a cause for concern. Many of the Ravens stars on both offense and defense are nearing the end of their careers. We have only a year or two before entering a rebuilding period. We need Joe to make some dramatic improvements or the Super Bowl will remain elusive for the Ravens.
His uneven performances are a major reason for the Ravens losing record on the road.
And his even-keel performances against some of the best in the league are a major reason why we are the only team in the NFL to have 4 wins against teams with 10 or more victories this season.
Go back to Dundalk with the rest of the idiots.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
We have only a year or two before entering a rebuilding period.
WHAT?!? Ray Rice, Haloti Ngata, Terrell Suggs, Webb, Jimmy, Torrey, Yanda, Oher, Grubbs, Cody McPhee, Jameel McClain, JOE FLACCO. What fucking rebuilding period are you talking about? This team is loaded with elite young talent at basically every position, and we have already seen the type of success this team should be able to have without Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.
Guess what bud, Joe Flacco is going to be here a very, very long time. Get used to it or go root for those pathetic losers in Landover.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
This year may be a make break yr for him. IMO this maybe why Ozzie hasn’t handled his contract situation. Could be wrong but you see what happened wit the bills QB. I bet they wish they wouldn’t have signed him to an extension.
by Raven_all_day on Dec 26, 2011 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Flacco is having an overall down year, but he has more than proven why he is our franchise QB.
He wins us far more games than he doesn’t, and much more than anyone we could replace him with would.
Now that was worded perfectly. I think most will admit he has had a little down year, but all of that hasn’t been squarely on him and it’s part of the growing pains of a young offense. I don’t see how anybody doubts Flacco isn’t our guy after witnessing the Ravens QB play in the past. We are in a lot better situation than many other teams and it’s crazy how much hate he gets. Some fans simply just look at the box score and judge a player solely on that.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Funny that most of these people who talk about how we should give Joe one more year or maybe even ditch him this year have failed completely to explain what their plan is without Joe.
They say “give him one more season, than don’t resign him if he plays poorly.” Yet they NEVER tell us what their genius plan is after life without Flacco.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
You didn’t hear Malor? Franchise QB’s grow on trees now. All we need to do is can Flacco and wait for the next Rodgers to fall into our laps next draft. Simple.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
No doubt
I love how all the flacco haters can’t come up with better option or how they don’t list about 25 other teams that are in a worse situation at qb. Joe flacco is a good qb
by Ravens4Life on Dec 26, 2011 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mr. Malor I agree
We are rebuilding on the fly which part of the inconsistency we are seeing. It is probably harder to be a fan of competitive team that is rejuvenating
Snark38
What the hell are u talking about “rebuilding”?! We undoubtedly have the best young core group of players to build on in the nfl! Its like malor just listed. Name one other team that has that amount of players under 30 to build on. Your a moron and undoubtedly you know nothing. Get ur shit out of her and go home
by Ravens4Life on Dec 26, 2011 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Dec 26, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
If that is the only response you got to my comments, than that is all I need to know about how much you know about this team.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I would like to hear your response to what I said please. You talk about how Joe has been a major reason in some of our failures this year, I talk about how he has been a major reason for our successes this year.
Also, pleaseeeeeee explain your plans for our “rebuilding year.” That would imply tearing this team apart from head to toe, and starting over from scratch. Seems like a great idea there bud. Or were you just simply stating that we should draft another rookie QB in the first round and go through 4 more years of rebuilding because you are SO sure that any QB not named Flacco can win a Superbowl in his first 4 years with this team.
Kick rocks dude, your shit is weak.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
You’re absolutely right. The idea of having to rebuild in a few years is absurd. In fact, the words rebuild and Baltimore don’t go together at all, and won’t as long as Ozzie is around. There may be a few teams that draft as well as us, but I don’t think there are any that are “better” at it.
This idea that Flacco isn’t the answer is dumb. I keep wondering why people rip on the guy. Maybe it’s cause he doesn’t have a super model wife? Maybe it’s cause he didn’t go to a huge juggernaut college like USC or MI. Maybe it’s cause he’s not doing fucking underwear ads or GQ spreads? That’s really all I can imagine people get upset over, that he’s not a “household name” guy. He wins games, plays every game, and puts up good numbers without running his mouth or getting in trouble. Sure, it’s a down year, but I’d be quicker to put that on the overturn in his receiving core coupled with the departure of Zorn before I’d ever put that on Flacco. We’re lucky to have him, I just wish people would deal with it.
"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed
You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.
by WestminsterRaven on Dec 26, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it’s cause he doesn’t have a super model wife? Maybe it’s cause he didn’t go to a huge juggernaut college like USC or MI. Maybe it’s cause he’s not doing fucking underwear ads or GQ spreads? That’s really all I can imagine people get upset over, that he’s not a "household name" guy.
This has always been a reason for why I think Joe gets hated on so much. The QB is supposed to be “The Face” of the team, the face of the NFL. Flacco is not marketable, he doesn’t draw attention to himself, and he doesn’t have alot of outside crap that is worth writing about. He came from a small school with a 6 inch eye brow and talked about how his mom still did his laundry and that he thinks of himself as a nerd.
I am damn glad that I don’t have a QB who is out there doing Uggs or underwear ads, or is out there raping women in the bathroom or drowning dogs. I am glad we don’t have some 2nd coming of god being thought of as the best ever, or a QB who can’t even play in back to back games. I am glad to have Joe Flacco as my QB.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Dec 26, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure how many of you see it,
But this year was our rebuilding year… We cut most of the veteran dead weight and are relying on young rookie and second year players to fill the void.
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Dec 26, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I see it the same way. The big difference between the top organizations though is while we do an overhaul like we did, we stay competitive. It’s more like re-tooling rather than actually rebuilding. I feel we got better by doing that overhaul and not many teams have the ability to infuse so many young players in big roles and get better..
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Before flaccos career is up
As long as no crippling unforeseen injuries happen, and as long as we keep our vintage defense and get a o-coordinator here that’s worth a damn, flacco will walk out of baltimore with a super bowl ring. Maybe 2. Baltimores on the track to always be perennial contender
by Ravens4Life on Dec 26, 2011 2:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Draft Kellen Moore in 2nd or 3rd round sign Joe Flacco to one year extension let them battle it out i think itll be obvious whos the better quartetback
by withintheruins14 on Dec 26, 2011 4:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dumb
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Remember when it used to be exciting to get new posters? This new crop is seriously lowering the bar.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel
Must be all the Baltimore Sun morons coming over here.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Yeah really where in the hell did all these people come from? Did Skev make a whole bunch of new accounts to get back at everyone?
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
by AV23 on Dec 26, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's that old saying?
Opinions are like jobs. Everyone should have one, and even if you don’t have a good one at least you’re contributing something to society. Okay so I just made that one up but hopefully my point is well taken.
You like Thai? Tie good. You like shirt?
I’m not sure that we won’t draft a receiver high, after a tackle.
by Raven_all_day on Dec 26, 2011 6:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
WR could definitely be a possibility. We could use one with some size.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Maybe, Torrey is here to stay. If we want to replace Boldin or get a reliable third option in the 2nd or 3rd round maybe.
I think this year we move back to defense in the draft. MLB, OLB/DE and a Safety in the first 5.
I see MLB being a high priority as well. While OT is a big need it’s a weak class. 2nd round could go in so many directions though it could just come down to BPA. OLB/DE could be possible if a really talented guy drops, but I just don’t see that much space for one on the roster. All of our D line play and some have to get scratched at times, then we got JJ, Kruger, Kindle and Mcadoo who could have a similar role to Kruger. I just don’t know that we have the roster space for that unless we plan on letting JJ walk.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
OLB was in response to the potential situation where we don't have the money available to lock resign JJ.
He’s one of the better jack of all trades OLBs in the league and he’ll get some decent offers. With our free agent class this year we might not have enough room.
Yeah i guess lifting a crappy football team to 37-2 over the last 3 years would mean you probably suck how dumb keep flacco and watch the mediocroty continue unless we taylor an offense exclusively to him
by withintheruins14 on Dec 26, 2011 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah i guess lifting a crappy football team to 37-2 over the last 3 years would mean you probably suck how dumb
College football bud. There is a reason why most people see Moore as a 7th round pick or even undrafted…..he just isn’t an NFL caliber QB.
keep flacco and watch the mediocroty continue unless we taylor an offense exclusively to him
You honestly think 4 straight years in the playoffs is mediocrity? And yes, we do need to tailor an offense to Joe, which is why Cam has to go this year unless we win a Superbowl.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
So far this season, the only two solutions I have heard to solving our problem as QB are Tyrod Taylor and Kellen Moore. Anymore bright ideas from these clowns?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Agreed and another bash with no plan. He can’t want Tyrod in there because if he’s worried about tailoring an offense for Flacco you would have to do that even more with a guy like Tyrod.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
But he canz runz gooddd
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Flacco isn't even a difficult guy to design an offense around.
Give him an OL that can keep him on his feet. (Pressure is fine but no more 40+ sack seasons like last year) A balanced pair of receivers with deep threats and a strict route runner. Keep Rice as it is and the set up is there.
Most of the pieces are in place. Just call sensible plays for once. Use receivers on the outside and go anywhere deep or medium close to the sideline. TE’s over the middle and keep a running back who can catch ready for check downs. Then pump in play action and we’ve got a functioning QB.
Yeah i do consider that mediocre because he cant put it all together and he needs a downfield passng offense with big recievers and hes asked to dink and dunk, and hes shown hell go 3 and out for usually the first half. In 4 years, i dont know what youre waiting for hes not going to magically change to a quarterback that will move the ball like an elite quarterback
by withintheruins14 on Dec 26, 2011 11:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wasn’t aware that after 4 years, you are supposed to be an elite QB. I can see why San Diego gave up on Brees after 4 years, he just wasn’t elite and never would be…..oh wait.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Drew Brees was never going to just magically realize his true potential once he left the Air Coryell system and had a real offensive coordinator who played to his stregnths… oh wait…
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
yeah but overall Drew Brees didn't really fit a Air Coryell system. In a Air Coryell system
I believe the quarterback has to be atleast Joe Flacco height but he did have nice stats in the air coryell system
that's true
but it serves Amp’s point that in the Air Coryell system everything has to be working perfectly. Why not move to a system that isn’t so dependent on so many moving parts working together in perfect synergy? A QB with Flacco’s natural abilities is a fit in literally any system.
I love it knowing that there are a handful of Ravens fans in this area who despise the fact that Joe will be our QB for the next 10 years. --Mr. MaLoR
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