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Defensive Notes vs. Steelers 11/6/11

It’s easy to be giddy after Sunday’s big win by the Baltimore Ravens over the Pittsburgh Steelers, but it shouldn’t mask a serious problem.

The Ravens pass rush had a bad, bad night.

 

You folks are probably familiar with what I’ve defined as Ample Time and Space (ATS) for a quarterback.  I score a pass play as ATS when the QB is untouched for 3 full seconds and has a 150 degree arc in front of him with enough space to step into his throw.  In cases where the QB throws earlier than 3 seconds, I project whether or not the pocket would have held up based on positioning at the time of release.  If the projection isn’t clear, I score it as not ATS.

 

I know that sounds like a complex and subjective definition, but if we each scored several games independently, we’d agree on 95%+ of categorizations.

 

Roethlisberger is a special case, because he moves around a lot to create the space to throw, but to be clear, he does not need to stay in the pocket to be scored as having ATS.

 

On Sunday BR had ATS on 28 of 38 drop backs that resulted in a pass or sack (74%).  By comparison, Flacco’s high ATS% since the beginning of 2010 is 70% (last season vs. Buffalo) and he had ATS on 45% of regular-season pass plays (399 of 878 entering the Pittsburgh game) in 2010-11.

 

With ATS, Roethlisberger completed 15 of 28 passes for 276 yards with 1 TD and no interceptions or sacks (9.9 YPP).  Without ATS Roethlisberger was 5 of 9 for 54 yards (46 net) with 0 TDs, 1 INT, and was sacked once for 8 yards (4.6 YPP).  Both YPP numbers are a little better than what Flacco has produced over these last 2 seasons (8.8 YPP with ATS, 3.8 without ATS), but the reasons why Pittsburgh’s line was able to generate so many high-value opportunities must be understood for the sake of the rest of this season.

 

The Ravens face a Seattle team next that has allowed the second most sacks in the NFL (29).  That’s comforting until you consider the Steelers have allowed 26.

 

Star-divide

All of the Ravens 58 defensive snaps were competitive:

Overall:

 

Versus the Run:  20 plays, 70 yards, 3.5 YPC

Versus the Pass:  38 plays, 322 yards, 8.5 YPP

Overall:  58 plays, 392 yards, 6.8 YPPA

 

By number of defensive backs:

 

3 DBs:  4 plays, -3 yards, -0.8 YPPA

4 DBs:  14/94, 6.7 YPPA

5 DBs:  38/281 7.4 YPPA, 1 sack, 1 TO

6 DBs:  None

7 DBs:  2/20, 10.0 YPPA, 1 TO

 

By number of pass rushers:

 

3:  2/20, 10.0 YPP 1 TO

4:  22/175, 8.0 YPP, 1 sack

5:  12/77, 6.4 YPP, 1 TO

6:  2/50, 25.0 YPP

7:  None

 

Individual Notes:

 

·         The Ravens created some opportunities for themselves, but could not cash in often.  Pollard dropped an INT on the Ravens’ second defensive snap.  McClain tipped a pass that went right through his hands to Jericho Cotchery for a 17-yard gain (Q2, 3:02).  Johnson tipped another pass that was hauled in by Cotchery (Q4, 6:16) for a gain of 13.  In total the Ravens had 7 PDs and 2 washed out by Cotchery’s grabs.  Webb had another PD which was uncredited in the Gamebook (Q2, 2:00).

·         The Ravens held the Steelers to just 9 offensive possessions including the 2-play drive in the last 8 seconds.  The most significant player in terms of that accomplishment was Joe Flacco, who converted 14 of 21 third downs and worked the clock effectively at the end of each half.

 

·         Pagano again found playing time for 8 DBs, but Nakamura (1 goal-line play), Smith (the last 2 prevent snaps), and Zbikowski (1 heavy nickel and 2 prevent snaps) are not getting much time.  Danny Gorrer did not see the field at all.  Carr played 39 snaps as the nickel.

·         Cary Williams, like Webb, had a tough night with all of the additional time and space afforded Roethlisberger.  Nonetheless, he broke up a 30+ yard pass to Wallace (Q2, 7:18) and just 2 plays later broke up what would have been a 1st down pass to Cotchery between the numbers and left hash to force a punt.  The 6-second TD to Wallace (Q4, 5:08) was a microcosm of Williams’ season.  He’s been asked to cover some top-shelf receivers and had some success when the combination of his press coverage and the pass rush has broken up the timing of opponents.  But more than other corners due to his size and desire to be physical, when the QB has time, it’s been a struggle.  On the go-ahead TD to Wallace, Williams missed a PD by a whisker.

 

·         The Ravens went to a 3-DB set three times.  With 3rd and 1 on the first drive (Q1, 7:20), they pulled Cary Williams for Arthur Jones.  Webb was the only remaining defensive back on the field and he stuffed Mendenhall for a loss of 1.  By the way, if you want to see a wide receiver holding a corner, check out Wallace on that play.  Protecting a 4-point lead (Q4, 4:30 and Q4, 2:54), Albert McClellan was twice inserted on 1st down.  The first play was a pass dropped by Johnson, the second was a run left by Redman that McClellan and McClain stuffed for a loss of 3.

·         The defensive line/linebacker snaps versus the Steelers:  Cody 25, Jones 11, McKinney 9, McPhee 13, Ngata 44, Redding 32, Suggs 56, Ayanbadejo 12, Johnson 43, Kruger 18, Lewis 58, McClain 42, McClellan 2.

·         We’ll learn a little more about the injury situation by who practices this week, but it looked to me like Ngata was playing hurt.  He did not enter on offense where he has been particularly effective against the Steelers.  He didn’t seem to have the same quickness he has had the last few weeks.  Haloti nonetheless turned in one of the big defensive plays of the night.  With the Steelers 2nd and 13 at the Ravens 37 (Q4, 2:46), Roethlisberger threw short left for Redman.  Ngata anticipated the throw and tracked down Redman near the sideline, still 5 yards shy of a 1st down.  Had he not been able to make that play, the Steelers might have got a game-sealing 1st down right there.  Roethlisberger then missed Moore on 3rd and 5 to set up the dramatic finish.

·         If there was any question about Ayanbadejo faking an injury to stop the no huddle, that was dispelled when he didn’t take the field subsequently on either 3rd and 4 (Q4, 3:38) or 3rd and 5 (Q4, 2:37).

·         If Ayanbadejo is indeed hurt, it will be interesting to see if they move to a traditional dime alignment in passing situations.  Pollard would be the obvious choice to move next to Ray with Zibby, Carr, or Nakamura taking the back end.  After Ayanbadejo’s injury Sunday night, McClain played the nickel snaps.

·         McClain had an up-and-down game.  The interception which went through his hands cost the Ravens 3 points.  Mendenhall took him for a ride on his 4-yard run for a 1st down (Q3, 14:03).  McClain was kicked out by Foster (Q2, 4:48) on Mendenhall’s 8-yard run.  Finally, he was late covering Miller (Q1, 2:08) on what would be a 15-yard completion on the right sideline.  On the plus side, he had a solid hit to dislodge the ball from Brown (Q4, 5:14).  Jameel lined up standing on the ORS (Q3, 13:16) and beat Gilbert inside with a spin move.  He was just a moment late to deliver a hit to Roethlisberger who had dumped off to Miller for a gain of 13. 

·         Suggs’ interception (Q3, 10:42) was the game’s most important play and a clear indication of study.  On the post-game interview he said Roethlisberger had spent extra time communicating with Wallace, so he decided to jump the screen and rush from there if the pass was going elsewhere.  He had played in control as a pass rusher for most of the night, aware that the screen is a big weapon.  Plays I would cite as examples (Q1, 0:48 and Q2, 8:46).

·         The Steelers didn’t run the no-huddle offense for long, but it was effective on the first drive of the 2nd half.  They drove 66 yards on 8 plays before Suggs’ pick ended their continuous no-huddle series.  The Steelers have now converted to the no-huddle early in Q3 several times against the Ravens.  I’m trying to understand the logic in this case.  Prevent defensive substitution?  The Ravens had 3 separate personnel-grouping changes on a 9-play drive.  Tire the defense?  The Ravens had only 24 1st-half snaps, so I’d have expected the Steelers to be more concerned about tiring their own defense.  Slow down the pass rush?  The Steelers had 11 of 16 plays with ATS prior to halftime.  Whatever the reason, the Steelers ran only 3 no-huddle plays thereafter per the Gamebook.

·         Hasslebeck also had 8.5 YPP in week 2 versus the Ravens.  The last time they won when allowing as many or more yards per pass play was against Buffalo last season when Ryan Fitzpatrick had 8.7 YPP in the 37-34 Ravens win.

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Hopefully we get back to rushing the passer this week. The Steelers seemed to have some success at time running the ball and who or what do you think that was attributed to?

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Nov 9, 2011 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Our improved O line, but other teams have been able to run between the tackles on you guys this year. Ngata not being 100% hurts of course but the problem lies deeper than that, Cody isn’t getting it done at NT.

The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010

by malaki on Nov 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

you obviously haven’t been watching Cody much then because he’s had a good year.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Nov 13, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

My post for tomorrow was going to be about this ver issue..

Guess I’m starting over lol

Don't let my defense dictate your offense..

by lastcallbmore on Nov 9, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Nice work Ken

I read on a Steeler’s review site, that Suggs was mostly spying BB. Trying to keep him in the pocket, rather than going for the all out pass rush. Suggs would sometimes bull rush Starks, then just watch BB after that. Kind of an odd gameplan considering Suggs is our best pass rusher, and he’s been a one man Steeler wrecking crew. I’m wondering if we did this because of Ngata’s thigh bruise (a serious charlie horse kills your burst for at least a week). Since Ngata was half speed, we didn’t want Ben breaking the pocket and having all day (which happened anyway). This gameplan seemed more Mattison than Pagano.

you remember that play, from that game, on that day. sweet, right?... right...

by El.Dude on Nov 10, 2011 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

What is the take on Ngata’s performance? After such a dominant start to the season, we haven’t heard his name too much the last few weeks. I know that DL go unnoticed for periods of time, and Ngata is definitely getting double and triple teamed.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Ngata was playing hurt

What I’d like to understand is why the Ravens needed him on the field for 44 plays Sunday at that level of effectiveness.

Where the Ravens may have missed him most was on offense. He’s played 5 career snaps vs. the Steelers with 4 TDs.

by Filmstudy on Nov 10, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Pagano said

They were picking up the rush so he switched to more of a cover D. Ngata definitely was off his game, but also gotta credit the Pitt O-line. I truly didn’t think they had it in them to play that well.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Nov 10, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Great stuff. I love reading the good & bad news

by Evan Skev on Nov 10, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Just curious....

Do you think Tyrod Taylor would have drove us 92 yards with 2:24 left in the game and down by 4? What about Bulger? Or Troy Smith? Are you somewhat of a believe now?

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 10, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Tyrod Taylor elite?

by Evan Skev on Nov 10, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe finally got his shit somewhat together against a medioicre defensive backfield.

He almost cost us the game with that errant pass in the end zone that should have been picked off. He still has shades of Eli Manning when he plays. This week we should score at least 30 points, if not then we are back in the same rut again. If our offensive line was better he would of had a trophy day. Lets see what the Bengals do against the Steelers this week with a rookie quarterback.

by TheShadow on Nov 10, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

they had the #1 pass defense and #3 overall defense.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Nov 10, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe finally got his shit somewhat together against a medioicre defensive backfield.

Pittsburgh was the #1 ranked pass defense coming into the game Sunday. They held Tom Brady to 198 yards passing. Not exactly a mediocre defensive backfield if you ask me. Joe is the ONLY Quarterback to pass for 300 yards on their defense this season. Joe is the ONLY Quarterback to lead an offense that put up 20+ on their defense this season.

He still has shades of Eli Manning when he plays.

Eli is having one of the best seasons of any QB in the league this year. He also has a ring and one of the greatest playoff runs in NFL history under his belt. I will take a “shade of Eli Manning” this year from Joe.

If our offensive line was better he would of had a trophy day.

This was the best the OL looked since week 1. Those pockets for Joe were incredible. 14 third down conversions (most on Pittsburgh in the last 60 years) along with 300 yards is a trophy day against that defense in my book.

This week we should score at least 30 points, if not then we are back in the same rut again.

If we win 21-3 with Joe throwing for 285 yards and 3 TD’s, does that mean we are still in a rut? Lol.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 10, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

why bother? can’t stop laughing

by Evan Skev on Nov 10, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

Steelers fans have more respect for Joe than Shadow does. Joe could break every single passing record and we’d still hear screams for Tyrod Taylor because he could have broken all those records and broken every rushing record at the same time.

by YeahDonnie on Nov 10, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You're like a nagging fucking wife

I feel sorry for the person who makes the mistake of marrying you.

by TheShadow on Nov 11, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t nag, I broke down a comment which I disagreed with. A comment like this basically just tells me that you have no rebuttal and that you are basically agreeing wit me.

All good though, I am sure you are a sad old man who tucks their Flacco jersey into their Levi’s with that awkward stare…

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 11, 2011 3:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Just ignore the troll

Someone said it, steeler fans have more respect for Joe than the troll. Just leave it be

by fedfan64 on Nov 11, 2011 6:35 AM EST up reply actions  

We will see how good Joe does this week

Unless Cam goes back to trying to run the ball all the time and Joe will lose any momentum he may have built up from the Steelers game.

by TheShadow on Nov 11, 2011 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely a troll. Browns fan? Pitt?

by Evan Skev on Nov 11, 2011 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he's a fan of failure

he wants everyone to fail to feel better about himself

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Nov 11, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s not getting much help to come on the other side when he’s getting set up to be picked apart.

you remember that play, from that game, on that day. sweet, right?... right...

by El.Dude on Nov 11, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

fan of failure… hmmmmm

by Evan Skev on Nov 11, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmmm

deep in thought or meditating?

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Nov 11, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

right..

players or fans…i mean it’s not like they gatorade shower a week nine game…
please, enjoy your “success”…it really means a lot

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by FrankWyt on Nov 12, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

we will :)

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Nov 12, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

wasn't really talking to you.

you’re a good guy with a brain.
more directed toward your LCD’s…such as “the shadow” “even skev”..
you know, you’re garden variety baltimorons

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by FrankWyt on Nov 12, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

*evan

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by FrankWyt on Nov 12, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

but really.

every Super Bowl winning team since the beginning of the Super Bowl era has ALWAYS Gatorade showered their coach in the 9th week. i assure you, that’s a great omen..
or pathetic…we’ll see

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by FrankWyt on Nov 12, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by .. good luck in Cinci tmrw! They’re gonna whip your tired team

by Evan Skev on Nov 13, 2011 12:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Didn’t that gatorade shower piss you off just a bit more? Didn’t it just twist that dagger a bit more?

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 13, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

MaLor

I’m going to come to Maryland, and I’m going to buttrape you….

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by FrankWyt on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

That is the best you can come up with? To threaten physical violence against someone in a public forum? Not too bright a move…

You make it awfully hard not to buy into the stereotype about P-burgh and lack of discernible intelligence…

MaLoR, I would offer you some duct tape, but I get the feeling this guy has envy issues, and probably couldn’t hurt a mosquito in the Biblical sense, so you probably have nothing to worry about….

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by vlad755 on Nov 19, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1678144485&sk=wall

“FrankWyt” is Nick Rizzo… I’m getting more information shortly.

by Evan Skev on Nov 19, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

wow detective

how did you possibly find out that elusive information? I thought I was hiding it so well.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 19, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

so what other information you got there

Columbo?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 19, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

no need to get sensitive about it

I talked to Malor on live for like 5 hours the other night, I told him he’s a cheap whore, and he has a butt raping coming..

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by FrankWyt on Nov 19, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure he's glad he has you as his

knight in shining armor though :)

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by FrankWyt on Nov 19, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

wait..

“threaten physical violence”? what?

Sounds extreme.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 19, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

“FrankWyt” you had zero credibility… now you’re completely worthless.

I’m sure pitt fans love you being such a great rep for them.

by Evan Skev on Nov 19, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

wow "Evan" you're still an idiot

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by FrankWyt on Nov 19, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and you're a cheap whore...it's been proven

i know you say you’re not cheap, but you are…

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by FrankWyt on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Tyrod would not have left the game in doubt going into the 4th quarter. Pretty sure he would have Steve Younged us to victory.

by raven on Nov 10, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You could be right. We’ll never know

by Evan Skev on Nov 10, 2011 9:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ben's 74% ATS is a ridiculously high total...

and the Ravens paid for it by allowing 8.5 yards per pass play.

Flacco had 60%, which is also high.

by Filmstudy on Nov 10, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't wait for the O-line notes

This line should only get better playing together more, but it certainly was a nice improvement versus the previous weeks. I’m sure Joe spent less time in the whirlpool Monday.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Nov 10, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

rushing 6 we we gave up 2 plays for 50 yards. ray’s not getting there and his open spot kills us every time.

by raven on Nov 10, 2011 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

That is what Ben does. The guy is the best QB in the league at getting away from pressure. Rush 6 against any other QB in the league, and they are curling up in a ball.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 10, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Got to get in his face

Ngata being hurt meant less push up the middle, which allowed Ben to step forward then scramble away from outside pressure. When we are successful against Ben is when he can’t step forward. I also don’t remember us running many stunts looping Suggs, or crashing Ray up the middle, which seemed to be effective game 1.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Nov 11, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

ray up the middle hurts more than helps. suggs and JJ looped too much. they spent 1/2 their rushes behind ben. better to stay in front and get your hands up. or time a jump to block a ben pass.

by raven on Nov 12, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Looping

means looping from an outside rush position to up the middle.

"the croaking raven doth bellow for revenge."
Hamlet, William Shakespeare

by Fandemonium on Nov 12, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

How did you miss Mendy shutting them both down on multiple occasions, unlike Rice who got wrecked by Harrison.

The Ravens are pus*ies compared to the Steelers. - Peyton Hillis 2010

by malaki on Nov 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

(cough) sweep (cough)

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Nov 13, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like you have a case of the sweeps.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 13, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I got it bad.

On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu

by AV23 on Nov 13, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah…really no right way of defensing him. just hope he makes a mistake.

by raven on Nov 10, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Defense really didn’t stop Steelers much in the 2nd half. Pagano seemed to be playing it safe. Don’t like that at all. This victory goes to the offense.

by PurpleMoonDance on Nov 11, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Yup

Not happy that P-burgh was able to drive for not one but two TD’s that late in the game, even if one of them was a short field. We hold just one of those to a FG, completely different ballgame.

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by vlad755 on Nov 11, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

our d gets very soft in crunch time. but there is no solution when most QB’s can burn a blitz or take advantage of our LB’s rushing. our best bet is to stay in man to man. seems like we need a big lead or an offensive comeback. under rex and pagano we have trouble with the 2 minute defense. maybe ray and ed just aren’t capable of leading a ‘stop’. we seldom win ‘going away’. but many good teams have that problem…NE and Pitt…

by raven on Nov 12, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

I haven’t seen this problem so far in 11… Do you have an example in mind?

by Evan Skev on Nov 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/11/signature-stat-accuracy-percentage/

^ a little more insightful than your ATS.

That is a “fixed” version of the generic completion percentage. They remove all the drops, throwaways, and spikes to trim it down to only the passes that were aimed at a receiver and not blatantly dropped by said receiver. The #1 QB in the league in this stat (like in every other ever) is Aaron Rodgers, but the top AFC North QB, and in fact top AFC QB overall, is Andy Dalton. He ranks 5th in the NFL with an accuracy percentage of 72.4 and #1 in the AFC.

It doesn’t show every QB, but it does rank the worst in the league, which is where you’ll find another AFC North QB… Joe Flacco, who is ranked 32nd out of 36 qualifying QBs.

“So you’ve got a glimpse of some of the good, now let’s move onto some of the bad, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone who is at the "top" of that list. Have a look for yourself and see. Tim Tebow has been criticized for his accuracy, and the numbers completely back that up. While he may have gone viral, and he led his team to an impressive fourth quarter comeback against the Dolphins, he’s also managed some of the most impressive (or depressive) overthrows of the year. He may be a special talent, but one of those talents doesn’t center around being accurate.

He’s followed by a rookie quarterback in Blaine Gabbert who is, to put it kindly, taking his lumps with a spell of inaccurate quarterbacking that is as bad as it is consistent. Still you don’t get to a really interesting name until you see that of Joe Flacco. Yes indeed, Flacco is struggling so much in accuracy terms that you’re comparing him to names like Tebow and Gabbert. Quite the fail as the kids say."

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by malaki on Nov 13, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I seemed to recall Flacco kicking your ass twice this year. Yeah we will take that.

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by AV23 on Nov 13, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You got swept by a QB who is on the same level as Tebow and Gabbert where he completed 60% of his passes for 524 yards, 4 TD’s and 0 Ints. So how does that feel that the worst QB in the league waxed that ass….TWICE?!?

Funny that all we heard from Steeler fans the last 3 years was that Joe would NEVER beat the Steelers when Ben was in the game. Now that we have done it twice, and in convincing passion with amazing QB play, he all of sudden has gotten alot worse. I love it.

Did you know that Joe is the only QB this season to lead his offense to score 20+ against your defense? And he did it TWICE! Did you know that Joe is the only QB pass for 300 against your defense this season?
Did you know that Joe is the only QB this season to throw 3 TD’s against your defense?

Every time you try to argue that Joe is a piss poor QB, all you bring up is his accuracy. You ignore that his accuracy in the past has been over 60% and fail to realize the players that Joe is working with right now. We have 4 players who caught passes against you last Sunday night that have a combined 4 years of NFL experience. Add on top of that he is throwing more deep balls than any other QB in the league, it will bring with it a low completion percentage.

Take your weak ass argument else where, Joe mopped the floor with your SHIT team. How does it feel to lick the taint of Joe Flacco you little bitch?

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 13, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are the pitt trolls not in the pitt thread?

Oh… because they got swept.

I forgot.

by Evan Skev on Nov 16, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

derrrp?

did you eat your crayons again?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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