Ravens Play Complete Game, Beat 49ers 16-6
by lastcallbmore on Nov 24, 2011 11:27 PM EST
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The Ravens gave us a lot to be thankful for on Thanksgiving. Baltimore faced a very tough opponent and dominated all over the field. The pass rush, led by Terrell Suggs with three sacks, was relentless. Paul Kruger and Pernell McPhee were everywhere and the secondary played mistake free. This defense showed they are ready for the post-Ray Lewis era.
Joe Flacco had a great game. He did just enough to stay ahead of Alex Smith and the 49ers all night. Flacco made the big throws when he need to and moved the ball well against one of the leagues toughest defenses. Joe distributed the ball evenly and used all of his weapons.
John Harbaugh and Cam Cameron stayed grounded (literally) with their offensive attack. With the defense registering nine sacks they were blessed with some pretty good field position throughout the game. Cam had some questionable play calls in key moments again (QB draw on 3rd and goal) but the offense did what was necessary to win the game.
John Harbaugh gets to one-up" little brother in round one and Baltimore could not be happier. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Good game fellas
The Ravens straight up dominated out there.
Happy Thanksgiving.
I’m thankful that my team is 9-2.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Nov 24, 2011 11:36 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
When the Colts left I loved watching montana and Rice play catch
49ers filled a space glad to see them doing well, but still happy not against my team. I think a rematch in February could be fun
10 days off
will be helpful.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
The ticky-tack chop block call was huge.
Completely changes the game if they’re up 7-3.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:38 PM EST reply actions
that's called a "Raven special" lol
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I thought that was hitting Torrey in the endzone
over Clark and Gay as time runs down.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
That block in the back penalty
on Webb’s big punt return was pretty bogus as well.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Nov 24, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yes,
but that didn’t take 7 off the board.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
That wasn't "over" Clark...
he was nowhere near…his f up was way earlier than that.
And Gay…well…he’s Gay…
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The ball went over his head,
hence ‘over Clark.’
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Clark was running from the opposite end, it went over Gay
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In any case,
Clark misplayed that horribly.
I’ll also say I really don’t like Clark, which makes me think he’s not very good.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
yeah..that he did
Clark was good, he’s losing a bit now. I don’t know why you don’t like him.
If you hate him because of his questionable hits, then that’s not fair, because there are certainly a few players on your side that have done the same type of shit.
But it is what it is.
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I don't like the hits,
I don’t like his mouth. I did like the Ray Rice stiff arm on him though.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Has he talked more than the one time I can remembeR?
And your team is the king of the mouth, how can you not like other players with mouths?
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Because my player's mouths belong to my players?
I never said I was justified…
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah. I guess I should have known that..
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I think most people that hate him
hate him because of the way he talks trash when he’s not even a top 3 player on his own defense….
by TurtlePower88 on Nov 24, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
he talked one time
before this season, that was the only time I can remember.
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I still chuckle at how well he backed that up.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really know what he was doing talking
him and Woodley. That’s not the Steeler way.
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also..
the play you talk about is actually called “Raven anomaly” there’s a huge difference ;)
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Hmm,
I seem to remember Torrey catching quite a few TD passes this season. I also think we’ve now come back in the last minute against the Steelers twice in the last 5 games. That’s an awfully high occurrence rate for an anomaly.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
no..
not Torrey..just related to the team. As in..them actually getting a game winning TD like that against the Steelers.
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I seem to remember
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that was set up nicely by having to roll with Batch
But…there’s a reason that guy is on the bench right now. Biting on plays was his specialty. But plays like this seem to be more prevalent.
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Equally prevalent?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Lol
yeah…but I mean…no ….we’re arguing here. This is life or death…must……be…..the .better…..fan….
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Lol.
You’re a Steeler fan, how can you be better?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
Team success?
Fight harder? I don’t know. What’s your definition?
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The answer is you can't.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
Team success...
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Getting swept?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
finally..
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'06?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:57 AM EST up reply actions
Cowhers "throw in the towel"
that was a bad season. That and Ben had the motorcycle concussion, the surgery on his spleen or appendix, and the two concussions from cheap shots…
he wasn’t in his right mind lol
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Excuses...
Is Ben ever in his right mind?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 AM EST up reply actions
And by that I mean,
isn’t he right handed?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 AM EST up reply actions
lol.
I don’t have an answer for that…
I still remember some of his post game interviews from his first couple years. Every time I would think “god damn this guy is stupid”
His answers would almost never be related to the question he was asked.
But seriously, 06 was fucked from the get go. No excuses, they were horrible, but I knew it was going down that way before the season even started.
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Like us in '07
when you beat up on our rookie CBs that should never have been on the field.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:03 AM EST up reply actions
don't remember that part
Only Hines knocking big bad Ed Reed on his ass, then calling for help for him…
There was that second game. but we rested our starters for our letdown against Jax.
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McAlister and Rolle were out.
I think Prude was a starter, along with some other scrub (David Pittman I think, with Corey Ivy getting significant time). The game was over before it began. Although Willis had a sick stiff arm (to cut the lead to 35-7).
Lol David Garrard. That game made me happy.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
Ben Seems
To perform best in small, cramped spaces…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
and Ray performs best
when he has a wide alley to display his athletic knifing ability. And Stallworth played at 95 miles an hour at all times.
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Very Disappointing
Ben was mentioned in your post that I was responding to. Where was Ray mentioned in my post? Nope. And Stallworth isn’t even a Raven, Einstein. So not sure why you are bringing them up.
This is the best you can come up with? Can’t even stay on subject and keep pulling from the same, tired old well? Heck, what you are referring to with Ray happened in the previous millennium.
For all you know, I may have been referring to the fact that Ben has great pocket awareness that when the pocket is collapsing i.e. cramped spaces, he is still able to make a play. Not really sure where you were going with Ben…? You probably have done the most here to (unfortunately) promote the stereotype about P-burgh and limited educational experience…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Come on now
you weren’t referring to his pocket presence man. Geez. Why is it that you guys are so sensitive about this shit? It’s freaking football, and unless you are putting your mortgage on the line, you have no interest in it.
The Ravens WERE the team that gave him a contract after his vehicular manslaughter, right? So it is relevant in a way to what you were alluding to, now wasn’t it?
You can try to hide behind the “oh you’re on the same old well” but what the hell do you call what you typed? I know how some of your guys work though, everything is fair unless it’s about the Ravens.
You can spin it how you want to, you know what you were trying to say there holmes.
And I’m not too worried about your opinion of " P-burgh stereotypes" because I can assure you, even if they are true, they are nowhere near as bad as the ones about “B-more”. Those "stereotypes aren’t even stereotypes, they are last grasps at short straws. However, your thoughts are welcome on sites like Yahoo. Right up your alley. The truth is (as you should know, but choose to ignore) is that every sports team, city, state, country etc has a wide array of people. But you know…whatever makes you feel “superiors”
Ok Sally sensitive?
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On Our Blog
Damn straight, skippy, everything is fair when it comes to squeelers. Again, you conveniently ignored the fact I never once mentioned Ray or Stallworth, yet you brought them into the conversation out of the blue. I made a snarky comment about Ben, when Ben was mentioned on the previous post, ON A RAVENS BLOG, not P-burgh’s. See how I stayed on subject? It is a simple concept, one that should not be past even your limited faculties.
So you have a real hard time staying on subject. I guess mommy and daddy never really fixed that ADD issue, huh? At least Evan got one thing right: you really are a crudus malus contentus.
Sally sensitive
That is the best you could come up with there, Javert?
Next you will be calling me “Sad Vlad”…
You have pulled a double and by your mere presence have single-handily lowered the average intelligence and humor quotient of this board. I did not think that was humanly possible but By George you have gone and done it.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
ha!, stayed on subject. That is funny.
Sally sensitive wasn’t meant to be “good” or “best” , just appropriate for the situation.
One thing you and Kevin have in common is that nothing you type applies to the situation.
There you go, that’s “on subject” as that’s what I was talking about the comment you responded to. You know, the one where you were talking about his “pocket awareness”? Oddly enough, after giving it the old Fox news treatment, and shedding a tear over my Lewis comments, you come back saying that you were not in fact talking about his pocket awareness. Strange. I didn’t know.
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I'd actually love to see how your comment
related to anything I said in the comment you replied to. That is your problem sweet cheeks. You ASSUME people are dumb, then when they call you on your shit, you retract like a little turtle. My reply to your bullshit comment was just following your protocol. But, then you get sensitive about it?
“You probably have done the most to take the stereotype of “world’s whiniest fan base” away from the Seahawks"
Oh, and you know..I was being serious about Ray..he just needs a little bit of an alley, and he knifes his way through the opponents defense….not really sure how you could have taken it any other way….(see…dots…that absolves me)
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Dippin dots
are delicious.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 27, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
hell no they aren't
and I say this without ever having tried them. But you are a Ravens fan, so nothing you could ever say could ever be right. You’re just another “Baltimoron”
God damn I would hate myself if I really acted that way.
I’ve never even heard of those though, where could I find them?
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I think I've had them once.
They’re not really anything special. It was simply the best I could do to try to end that endless cycle of anger.
As for finding them, I’ve seen them at M&T and theme parks (Six Flags and Hersheypark I think), but never really anywhere else.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 AM EST up reply actions
you’re such a nice little peacemaker. That’s just one of the reasons you are so awesome lol.
Bad news about that company though, apparently they are bankrupt now.
Either way, I kinda figured that was the reason for your response. Always nice to have reasonable and rational people like you around!.
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I think I had heard that recently.
Oh well, so much for the ice cream of the future.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 27, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Just Did
Banana Breath.
See, there is a well known stereotype about the denizens of P-burgh, rednecks, roadkill BBQ’s, lack of education, etc, etc, etc. Initially, I thought balderdash, but given specimens such as you, it gets harder and harder to disbelieve such stereotypes.
Baltimore and whiny? Nope, not even close. You see, the most famous stereotype for Baltimore is our weirdness. Some of it steeped in history, some of it steeped in the characters associated with Baltimore such as Poe, John Waters, et al. Many historical examples, I will give you a football related one: Baltimore insisted that the kickoff time for home Baltimore Colt Sunday games be at 2PM, not 1PM. The reason why would be beyond your meager capacity; but suffice it so say it was a real pain in the tuckus for the NFL and the TV networks.
So if you are going to play the Baltimore stereotype card, you should have played that one. I even have to make your arguments for you against me… pathetic…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
As long as you know
That I don’t even live in Pittsburgh, that’s all that matters. I guess that takes a little of the wind out of your sails, but oh well.
I do however appreciate the fact that you have such a high opinion of yourself and murderers row even though high opinions of either aren’t justified.
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being a fan of a team that doesn't
Gatorade shower in weeks 1, 9, and 12…that’s good for something.
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If this team were to go on to win something important,
why would it matter that they showered their coach before?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
if they do, then yes, it doesn't
So far they are 0-2 coming off “shower” games..so we’ll see.
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Ah shit.
It’s a divisional game. Have to win those.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah..
The Browns have an offense about as good as the 9ers, so it shouldn’t be a problem at all.
Their defense is pretty nice, but damn that offense sucks.
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Hillis injury/distraction killed them.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:03 AM EST up reply actions
That's part of it
but I think their problems are way deeper than that.
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Their starting RB
is a rookie whose name I can neither type nor pronounce (because I’ve heard it once in my life). They have no big name players on offense (best player is probably their LT). Colt McCoy is playing like shit. Done deal.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
Colt McCoy> Blaine Gabbert, and Tavaris Jackson.
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Gabbert didn't win that game.
And I think Jackson is playing better than McCoy this year.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:13 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree with him playing better than
McCoy, but i was just joking. But, if I asked you who was going to win before the Jacksonville or Seattle game, what would you say? The Browns players know your team will be taking them lightly.
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Hopefully,
they’ve learned not to take teams lightly. I was worried before SEA.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:16 AM EST up reply actions
As some one that
has watched the Browns a lot this year (room mate is a fan) I can tell you, McCoy is NOT their problem He is good. He is doing everything he possibly can.
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I was reading
that he’s been horribly inaccurate.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:22 AM EST up reply actions
He hasn’t been amazing. but he has no one to throw to, and only 1.5 of those guys on the line have any idea what they are doing.
The problems are much deeper than him, that’s all I’m saying. He’s doing what he can.
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That team had just over 100 yards against us.
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but does after the 19th game...you know
the one that matters.
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They all matter.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
Not like the big one
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Gotta win these to get there.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
yes you do
good teams expect that, and don’t shower their coaches with Gatorade for winning games they should expect to win.
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Brother's never coached against brother before.
Big deal. The others….eh, dunno about those.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:06 AM EST up reply actions
I get that the brothers thing was big
but….shower? It’s a regular season win that keeps pace with another team (minus the TB’s)
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Important to the coach I would guess.
Suggs I think said that Harbaugh tried to downplay it but they all knew how important it was. It doesn’t make it the ‘right’ move, but it is a potential reason why.
And again, I don’t care about gatorade showers if we win.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:11 AM EST up reply actions
If beating his brother meant so much as to merit the action of a winning conference/Super Bowl champion, why did he talk all week about how that didn’t matter, and they’re just focusing on a tough game? It’s a bit of double-speak, and personally, I’d be pissed if I was Harbaugh. It’s a big win, but frankly, as a team that has not responded well after big wins, I’d be intensely careful to hammer the team into focusing on the next opponent, and not celebrate this one. It’s a big win, no doubt, but you guys want to get to the next level. Part of that is not reveling in the regular season. Win and move on.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 25, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
We'll see.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Why bother arguing with a pitts fan
by Evan Skev on Nov 24, 2011 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jimmy's knockin.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Getting beat deep.
Although it’d be nice if we could give him safety help.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I’m very glad Webb has not only returned to rookie form, but improved.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
Great game by all three phases
but Cam’s third down play calling, as well as all his calls inside the five yard line were lame.
aka 'Rexx'
His 3rd down play calling?
When we went 7/14?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah,,,not sure what people expect...
that is well above the league average.
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
by UMBC Oriole fan on Nov 24, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure
it’s also well above the average the 49ers give up.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
The QB keeper with four yards to the end zone against the best run defense in the league is what sticks out in my mind.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
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Bruce Raffel
Yes, horrible call.
But 1 of 14 plays does not make it lame. He had a wonderful drive when we scored the TD. I really liked the trips right pass to Boldin on the right sideline, followed by the same play on the next third down, but flipped (it was completed to Evans on a crossing route).
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
also wasn’t a fan of running that stretch play. we were on the 1 we just had a couple of successful runs up the middle and I don’t think it was wise to go to the outside.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I'm tired of seeing that stretch play fail so often.
Perhaps we should stop calling it so frequently. First and goal inside the five should be runs up the gut with a toss sprinkled every once in awhile. Stretch plays take far too long to develop to frequently be successful deep in the redzone.
by Mayne_Event on Nov 25, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
agreed. for that stretch play to work down there it basically has to be blocked perfectly and that’s a lot to ask against such a good defense.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
That Has Been
Rattling around in my brain for a couple of days now.
Maybe that was all of Cam’s fault, but it seemed to me something wasn’t right with that play. Not sure if Joe changed something, or if players didn’t go where they were suppose to go (there’s that execution thing) or what it was, but right from the snap, it looked like your typical busted play and Flacco just decided to take off. I could swear Flacco was looking to pass it, but none of the receivers were where he thought they would be so he took off.
But maybe it was just a really bad idea from the get-go…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
McClellan had never played ILB before today.
He played a lot of snaps, and he played damn well.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 24, 2011 11:46 PM EST reply actions
Cary -_-
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
If he's going to continue to get beat deep,
can we at least stop leaving him 1 on 1?
And it’s hard to look bad when your DL doesn’t give Smith time to throw.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jameel also played well on Sunday.
I’ve come to expect it from him. He’s no longer in danger of losing his job to Ellerbe. It’s not even a thought in my mind.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure
you don’t mind.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Tyler Palko is going to kill pitts corners
Ravens sweep pitt and are in 1st place in the AFC.
Second bye week starts now… Big win tonight.
by Evan Skev on Nov 24, 2011 11:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Tyler Palko is going to kill pitts corners
that is not going to happen and besides most likely Kyle Orton will be starting instead of Tyler Palko
Palko's starting
Wouldn’t it be funny to hear the crowd chanting “OR-TON!” though? Do him some good after hearing nothing but “TEE-BOW!!” for the last year and a half.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 25, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
If they get down big early, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear OR-TON a lot!!
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by GrumpyOldBird on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Ravens sweept Pitt
Kevin sweeps his section when he’s done, or he can’t cash out.
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WE WON ALL GAMES SO FAR AGAINST TEAMS THAT ARE ABOVE .500. Before we struggled against these teams. Man Go fucking ravens!!!!!
I thought Baltimore’s struggles were against teams below .500?
by Neal Coolong on Nov 25, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
he's talking about in years past
but yes this season we’ve seemed to play directly to our level of competition.
Damn man if we get that out of our system and win out, which we are very much capable of doing, I really don’t think anybody can stop us at home in the playoffs.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
what a great game. Even though we only scored 16 that was a very good offensive game. We controlled the clock and consistently moved the ball on one of the top defenses in the league. The pass rush was insane tonight. Hopefully we keep this rolling. We are hitting stride right on time and looking forward to us getting even stronger.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
that’s a pretty damn good defense. 16 is not bad at all.
On your side…geez that was brutal.. Alex Smith is going to be sore till Wednesday..
I almost feel bad for him. But hopefully your team softened him up for awhile.
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Thank you for your valuable opinion. What would we do without your input?
Now go get your shine box.
by Evan Skev on Nov 25, 2011 12:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you'd probably get back to sweeping your section
cashing out, then going home to a lonely existence.
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Wyt
you definitely predicted that SF wasn’t ready for a team like this. I agreed, but cautiously as nothing is promised in the NFL.
But that was pretty much the type of game i expected.
Now that you’ve seen Joe’s horrendous mustache, do you respect him more?
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
lol
I don’t “not respect” him. I think sometimes he is wildly inconsistent.
He looks like an all-time great sometimes, then looks like an all time goat others. I just don’t get him.
I know he has the skills, and all the physical tools. But he’s hard to figure out.
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He looks like an all-time great sometimes, then looks like an all time goat others. I just don’t get him.
I know he has the skills, and all the physical tools. But he’s hard to figure out.
Yeah that’s the story of his life right there. But despite this season being in many ways statistically uglier than his past seasons, I think this is the first season he has really carried us to some of our most important victories and it is the first season where I feel like he’s ready to take care of that BID’NESS in the playoffs… and dare i say it… the SUPER… no no I won’t say it yet.
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you may be right, although I hope not ;)
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I can see that
he has came through in important situations. Time will tell. I’m definitely not one those morons that say “well he didn’t do it before, so he’ll never do it” blah blah.
Sadly, for the last 5 years, my preseason Super Bowl pick has been the Ravens. I said the same thing this season.
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that's pretty depressing
because I never, EVER pick the steelers.
Even in the Superbowl last year, I had this nagging feeling they would pull it out and I’d have to hear it… thankfully they didn’t… but despite having that gut feeling I NEVER pick them. I can’t.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
ha. Well, I don’t feel hatred toward other teams. I just love football. Of course I love the Steelers more than football, but I still just love football.
I also don’t let douche bags ruin my opinion of something. If I felt that way, there is no way I’d like Tool, Biggie, or Lynrd Skynrd.
Yes, the annoying fans of anything are annoying, but I try to not get swayed by that.
Except Pats fans, because 88% of them became fans in the last 10 years.
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I dont shine shoes anymore, billy
Maybe you havent heard….I dont shine shoes no more. Relax, im just breakin your balls a little, I just got out, I aint seen ya in a while…now why dont you go home and get your f@#$%n shinebox!
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Nov 25, 2011 7:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tough lose for us
Hope we can meet in the Superbowl
Dang that Ginn td…soo close
Have a good night Baltimore
A rare fan who supports Alex Smith and Crabs...
Also would like to give Webb some props. He is playing at a pro bowl level and deserves some recognition. Right now he is clearly our best CB.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
oh yeah
he’s like our poor-man’s Charles Woodson (a 21 also), how we move him all over the defense and ask him to do everything, from nickel to outside to blitz, man or zone, whatever. He’s officially back in full-effect from that ACL.
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And he's a return man
which is how Woodson won his Heisman.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
Charles Woodson, you guys? Really? C’mon….
by Neal Coolong on Nov 25, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
I fucking love my team.
Some turkey. Family time. And a Ravens win. God bless
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Anyone else notice Flacco's porn-stache?
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makes me cringe lol
Maybe it will look better when it fills out? I guess he’s decided he’s tired off all the unibrow comments and wants to go for something else.
But he played great tonight so maybe it helped his mojo. :-)
by GayleG on Nov 25, 2011 12:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yup
If he keeps playing like the way he did tonight that stash will become legendary and everyone in Baltimore will want to grow one.
by Mayne_Event on Nov 25, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
what's weird
is that it’s color does not match any other visible hair on his body.
His Hair is dark, his unibrow is dark..that thing was almost blonde
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guessing it's a Mo-Vember thing
but its so terribly awful that its just amazing. If a guy who looks that absurd could win a superbowl, man, we might just be able to balance the budget and cure AIDS.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
That thing is…JUST…AWFUL…I can say this because I’m one of them, but the Good Lord did not give all of us faces that should sport Mustaches. Joe Flacco is my cousin, in that regard.
by Neal Coolong on Nov 25, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think
Joe should forgo the ‘stache and just start working the Unibrow until the ends are kinda droopin’ down near his mouth, creating the Fu Man Joe or the Handlebrow
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by GrumpyOldBird on Nov 25, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Dont fall into a trap game!
The browns game is a perfect setup for another trap game. Dont fall for it guys! You are too good for it! With that being said, this game tonight was one of the more impressive team performances. Awesome win guys! Keep it up!
Offiacially cant stand jamie dukes.
Down plays Flacco and says flacco wont be a championship QB because he is not special and Rogers threw for more than both him and smith combined. Lions defense is not the ravens or the 9ers. Flacco played a really good game.
Good thing he doesnt give life advice.
the sad thing is he won’t ever get credit even if we win it all. If we win a super bowl it will be because of the defense and Rice. I just don’t ever see him getting the credit he deserves there will always be some excuse. When he plays well it was a fluke and if he plays bad that’s the true Flacco.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Nevermind how well he’s played against elite defenses like SF and Pittsburgh. I even think his performance against the Jets was better than the stat line indicated. He played well enough to win that game.
Hell even in the awful Seattle game, he was the reason we remained competitive despite spotting the home team 6 points. It’s the NFL, you can’t afford to spot ANYBODY six points.
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Who is Jamie Dukes?
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but he can talk?
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oh YEAH that's about his core competency right there
talk, listen to himself talk, smile at himself on tv, laugh at his own jokes, he’s pretty much the most amazing person he’ll ever meet.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
So he's a local tv personality that talks about football?
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yeah. I don't get to watch NFLN
Only on streams during NFLN games.
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you’ve been spared. I’m pretty sure if/when a zombia apocalypse happens, it will be because of a rage virus spawned in gorrilas stuck in cages watching Jamie Dukes incessantly disrespect their favorite football teams through a repetitive 24-hour news cycle on NFLN.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
LOL
with this information, I’m kinda interested to learn about this guy. Is he like the NFLN Colin Cowherd or something?
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holy cow lower the bar a little
Colin Cowherd does from time to time talk about interesting subjects, and he has something called—what is it—CHARISMA?—that has at least contributed to his recent explosion of ego. Jamie Dukes? Ex-offensive lineman who loves himself more than Wide Receivers do. He can never agree with what anyone else says because that would just reduce the amount of talking he has to do to explain why he is right (as he always is). I’ve seen him belittle Fran Charles multiple times (not that Fran is a genius, but come on, no reason to embarrass your boy on TV now), and in one sad 3am "whats on TV moment I saw what appeared to be his own “show” where he kindof just stood in front of a TV with music playing, pointed out things in games he thought were funny, and laughed at his own jokes while looking back at the studio crew as if to be like “heh heh pretty good huh?”
He. Is. Awful.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
rec'd!
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Nov 25, 2011 3:30 AM EST up reply actions
Niners fan
Congrats ya punched us in the mouth today enjoy the win HAPPY THANKSGIVING
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It was a great game and could've gone either way!
Happy Thanksgiving to you too!
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 25, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
You guys got alot to look forward to. See you in Indy.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Awesome Defense!!!
This was by far the most tenacious I have seen the 2011 Ravens D… Definitely made a statement!!!
9 Sacks and an Int says it all. Didn't get many turnovers but damn Alex Smith and the O-Line looked demoralized out there.
That intentional grounding penalty at the end says it all. The Niners offense was running shit-scared by the end of the game, even after losing our most intense player.
That was crazy.
They literally didn’t block anyone on that play.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
What will the Flacco Haters say … can’t wait
McPhee and kruger are ballin…
Has Torrey burnt every cb he’s faced this year?
Webb was a 5th rounder like McPhee?
by Evan Skev on Nov 25, 2011 1:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Don’t you just love when Flacco plays a beautiful ugly game? God I love it!
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I love it when Flacco owns 3rd down,
especially at crucial points in the game.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
And then after, “experts” say he isn’t our franchise QB.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Skip Bayless?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
no, he said experts
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by FrankWyt on Nov 25, 2011 3:40 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's a self-proclaimed expert.
He’s also pretty good at sucking Tim Tebow’s cock…
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:43 AM EST up reply actions
well.
i don’t think either expert, or “expert” is appropriate for that guy.
Tim Tebow/Tom Brady cock sucker…yeah, I can see that
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The only time I've ever seen him
is when he lost an argument with Suggs because he said Tebow would own our defense.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:54 AM EST up reply actions
I used to leave the TV on espn2 because it's always on
but after a few straight days of waking up to that annoying douche bag, I stopped. I know the character he is playing, and I understand that. But he sucks.
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I used to be a fan of ESPN.
When I was about 10. Not anymore.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't been a fan for awhile
but I’d leave it on when i went to sleep because it’s always on, and I need background noise. But g d it’s annoying now
It’s soap operas, “stories” and very little in the way of sports
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And this is why I've stopped watching.
That, and it’s no longer worth the effort to find a stream.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:02 AM EST up reply actions
no cable?
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I'm in college...
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
I thought that mean cable in
all the dorm rooms? That’s how it was at BG
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Man, we ain't get shit.
BG = Bowling Green?
We get the basics plus whatever alumni wish to pay for.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
yes Bowling Green
well that sucks. How long till you get an off campus place?
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Friends have one,
no need for cable. Internet is free. I (hopefully) graduate in 18 months anyway.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
cool
cable is a waste in my eyes anyway. Any show I may want to watch..i can get it commercial free the next day
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Yea
that’s how I do it as well, especially since I end up not having time on most nights.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 4:21 AM EST up reply actions
anyway, nice talking to you as always
Good win for your boys today. I will see you in the future I assume.
No matter what you do in life, no matter what is happening, you must make sure to keep it real. That is the only thing that matters.
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Thanks man
And thanks for keeping it classy here! Love to hear the perspectives of level headed fans of even our biggest rivals!
by Mysterious on Nov 25, 2011 6:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks man
And thanks for keeping it classy here! Love to hear the perspectives of level headed fans of even our biggest rivals!
by Mysterious on Nov 25, 2011 7:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks.
Advice is always useful. Not so thrilled about this whole moving to the real world thing.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Webb was a 3rd rounder I think.
But both were steals. Torrey is unstoppable. To the point that they concede the short shit to take away the long ball, which is fnie by me.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
yeah he was a 3rd-rounder. Could have been a first-rounder if he wasn’t coming out of Nichol’s State U.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
Not so sure
about 1st rounder.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Good game, guys. Keep up the good work over here. I'm sure it won't be the first time the Harbaugh brothers play.
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It’s a date.
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
BEST FUCKING GAME EVER
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Jack Daniels treated me wellllll tonight.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Apparently.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
37-7?
I nominate that one for best ever. This one can take second place
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by Trip_like_Me on Nov 25, 2011 8:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love when we execute sheer dominance on a good opponent. We did that last night in a convincing way.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
As I am sure you know I was roting for a Raven loss last night
The 49r’s Olins looked completely over matched. It makes me feel a litle better about our Oline (except for the last 4 plays – ugly) But congratulations on a dominating win. The game was nowhere near as close as the score but, I only got to watch beginning at halftime. I was impressed with Flacco’s ability to complete it when he needed to. You guys are in first place and rightfully so. I an looking forward to watching the Bengals compete against the best at full strength in Cincy in the last game. It will be a truetest of where we are aa a team and help us know what we need to do with that extra first in the draft. We will probably have 2 picks ahead of both you and the Steelers. Maybe that will help. Playing the Steelers and the Ravens twice each is a true challenge. We are still a couple of players short IMO so we hadbetter make the best of this draft. We put almost 500 yards on your D and still couldn’t quite get it done. We have work to do.
Again, good win against a strong opponent.
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I tried to explain to some ppl that the 9ers havent really been battle tested against a team with a good offense and defense.
by Raven_all_day on Nov 25, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
On a cross-country trip
on short rest? I question what we can say about the NFC based on this game. Remember that we lost to SEA?
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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not taking anything away from what the seahawks did to us but...
2 lost fumbles on kickoff returns and the failure to commit to the run says more about us than it did for Seattle.
The 49ers didn’t lose because of the short week, they lost because they didn’t force us into any game-changing mistakes that their team has lived off of this season (leads the league in takeaways). Both of our teams had a short week so that’s no excuse. Also great defenses, like the one the 49ers have, travel well. This game was decided on the fact that we forced the 49er offence to be one dimensional. Once that happened, all we had to do was pin our ears back and call up the taxidermist to make a mount for Alex Smith’s head.
5. It’s impossible to overstate how badly the Ravens wanted to win this game for John Harbaugh.
That’s why I thought the Gatorade bath…
you remember that play, from that game, on that day. sweet, right?... right...
lastcallbmore
The Ravens gave us a lot to be thankful for on Thanksgiving eve.
Pretty sure yesterday was thanksgiving.
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
my guess,
eve shortened from evening
by wild.twins.ravens.win on Nov 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
tnx
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
way to go
Don't let my defense dictate your offense..
by lastcallbmore on Nov 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
haha
also bro, not trying to be a jerk, but just since it’s front page and all
John Harbaugh gets to one-up" little brother in round one and Baltimore could not be happier. Happy Thanksgiving!
you need to open quotations on “one-up.” You only closed them:
one up"
TO BILL BRASKY!!!
That is the only thing that pissed me off. We killed them up he middle on three straight plays then once we get on the 1 yard line u change. Rice couldve scored if he stayed behind Leach. But he went to the outside instead of staying in the hole.
by Raven_all_day on Nov 25, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Only brain fart of the night.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Joe's QB sneak?
Or did Mr. JD make you forget that one?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Nov 25, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Shit….
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
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