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First of all, Congratulations to the Ravens (7-3) on a hard fought victory beating the Bengals (6-4) in front of the home crowd. The Steelers (7-3) and the Texans (7-3) have bye weeks so since we beat them both and in 1st place means we're back behind the wheel of the car. You know it may not have been pretty, but a win is a win, and now we will welcome the 49ers to town on Thanksgiving night. So now I just want to reflect on a few things before we move forward.

Balanced Offense:

I know we want to have balance between the run & pass especially after last weeks lost but we have to remember our opponent will know that too. So instead of being so obvious to that fact and start the game off with three consecutive run plays, why not throw the ball first? The Bengals was ready for Ray Rice so it wasn’t a surprise to them what we were doing that's why we went 3 and out. I think we could have a froze them for a quick seven if we had a play action or a trick play ready. Most importantly, we have to keep in mind to go with whats working in the game, off balanced, or not, it is what it is. The object of the game is to win, and if that means Joe Flacco may not throw as much or Rice may not run as much so be it!

 

Quarterback Pressure:

Why are we not pressuring these QB’s when we know they are going to throw? The past couple of games we have not given them enough pressure (like we usually do) & they are completing a lot of passes. It’s like at times we are playing too conservative on defense. These quarterbacks (rookies or not) need to feel the pressure and put on their backs. We need to return to that formula very quickly because it's successful.

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Now I have to acknowledge the possible future tag-team combo in Joe Flacco & Torrey Smith. With Flacco’s arm and Torrey’s speed this could be a deadly combo to deal with. Just looking at the offense as a whole, Is it just me or should other teams be concerned? We have two veteran receivers in Anquan Boldin & Evans. (Boldin is one of the toughest S.O.B ‘s playing the game) Yes, we do have two rookie tight ends but look at them. Ed Dickson & Dennis Pitta are playing better than the league expected. Ray Rice is an all purpose back and proves it every week. Joe Flacco (The Iceman) is good and the best we've had at the position in franchise history. (the stats & records prove it) The league needs to prepare for a post season that we will set on fire because the puzzle is almost complete.

 

The defense is still doing their thing as well. Now while I don’t believe they are as good as the defense we had when we won the Super Bowl, (who does?) they can hang and will to the very end of the game.  Ray Lewis didn’t play in our win over the Bengals but his presence was felt and known. It was kind of funny watching him on the sidelines because you could see he was itching to come in and play. The defense can still cause havoc better then majority of the teams with Haloti Ngata, Terrell Suggs, Jarret Johnson, Ed Reed, and Bernard Pollard. I don’t see any teams lining up eager to play against them and if they say they are..THEY'RE LYING!!! What I love most about our defense is the direction by Chuck Pagano. In meetings and interviews, he comes off more like a player than a coach, I think he is better to lead this defense than Greg Mattison was. So any team that want some, can feel free to always come and get some, but be ready for what you get!

 

Next up is the 49ers, and we have a few things out the gate working in our favor. They are traveling from West to East to play this game. They also played later then us on Sunday. Finally, they are coming into a house that will not be pretty for them to play in. I have to say, Alex Smith needs to come in and show me something because I’m sorry I just don’t believe in this second coming crap. All of a sudden he’s gone from being Kyle Boller to Peyton Manning? I think not! I want to see him put on the Alex Smith Show in Baltimore against us. Now while I’m not sold on Alex Smith, Frank Gore on the other hand could be scary. I believe it will be tricky, but we will somehow slow his game up. No doubt it will be a good game, and I’m eager to watch it. For Thanksgiving this year, I just want the turkey served up on the platter that day to be Jim Harbaugh’s 49ers!

 

Go Ravens!!!

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Frank Gore vs The Defense
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Joe Flacco & Torry Smith vs The 49ers D
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The Ray Rice Show
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Ted Ginn Jr. vs Billy Cundiff & The Special Teams
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Nice write-up - PROMOTED!!!

Thanks for the story which fits right into today’s schedule, so I promoted it to the Front Page until Monday morning!

Thanks again!

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by Bruce Raffel on Nov 20, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks!

Thanks alot for the promotion. I’m loving it here!

by Glenn Hughes on Nov 20, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well earned and deserved!

Keep posting and we’ll keep promoting. Good stuff!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Nov 20, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Most excited for Joe Flacco vs Alex Smith

That will be the difference in the game. Now, of course if we see the offense we saw in a few games this year, but Joe has the ability to takeover a game like he did today at a few points and in others such as Pitt, Houston and Arizona.

I don’t think Smith will be able to takeover this game. If we win the turnover battle, we win this game. Period.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

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by Mr MaLoR on Nov 20, 2011 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

what about if you win the turnover battle, but lose the special teams battle?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just being a smart ass to MaLor

There are so many factors in a game, you can never say “if this happens then we win”

too much crazy stuff out there

And why do you hate to agree with me? Just because I like a different team I’m a horrible person?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You are okay

You give crap but you give credit too. you do get under the skin sometimes. I believe we see football similar. Being a smart ass or not it is true fumble a couple punts and we are done.

by runew on Nov 20, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

there is only one person on here

i actually want to give crap too. Everyone else, I’m just trying to talk football.

I’m predicting the final score of this game will be 3-2…
I don’t know who will win, but that’s the final score.

Those are some stout defenses…

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

A safety!?!

Awesome. Or will they start awarding points for kickoffs through the crossbars?

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 20, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

hell, I don't know

it’s hard to find teams with crazier/more opportunistic defenses
both have their offensive concerns…so who knows…3-2 don’t sound too crazy to me

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, these are two very similar teams

that have opportunistic defenses led by great ILB’s who wear #52 and offenses that are not prolific but wear down other teams thru a strong running game but can also throw the ball when needed.

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by Bruce Raffel on Nov 20, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly..

I can totally see this being a defensive battle for the ages.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

then again

I could see a big play from each side that catches the other completely off guard..it’s hard to tell with these two teams.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know enough about the 49ers to say.

But I will ask, what’s their answer to Torrey Smith? Justin Smith?

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 20, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

the only thing I could think of

is getting to Flacco before he has a chance to do anything. I don’t know too much about their secondary.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Justin Smith is a former Bengal

and a damn good DE from what I remember. I don’t think they have Clements anymore, so I’m in the same boat.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 20, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Clements is a current Bengal

I remember Smith…I just don’t know too much about their secondary.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, that was Nate Clements?

The former All-Pro CB? The man who got an $80m contract? Damn.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

and I think he’s only a starter through injury or some other circumstance.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Ridiculous.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they got him dirt cheap too..

SF may still be paying most of his salary.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

nevermind

he got 10 over 2 years, six guaranteed

plus the 22 mil he got from SF…wow…his agent is a genius

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

$3m this season

to sit on the bench? Or was he starting opposite Hall? Either way, damn.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he's starting now because Hall is out

Jones is the starter now that he’s back, and Jennings is the starter on the other side.

It was Hall, Jennings. Yeah..he’s a back up.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds good to me.

Damn rich nickelback. I think he’s making more than our 2 starting CBs combined (Webb and Williams).

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

so after seeing Dalton first hand

what do you think?

Potential for greatness or what?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

He scares me.

Give him Green, I think he beats us today.

He had a couple of stupid passes and was quite inaccurate. But he made throws to tie the game (blame Gresham).

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly..

he made rookie mistakes last week too..But damn…
I was surprised today. He took a sack that he avoided like four times last week. He threw it away EVERY time last week.

But still. It could be cool or bad to have a three team race for the division every year. (bad if you stress over football, cool if you love competitive football)

I think AFCN is going to be the toughest division in football for the next 3 or 4 years.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

To be honest,

I like it better when we’re the only good team.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, I have enjoyed those

type of years too.

When have the Ravens been the only good team though? (serious question)

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

06?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It certainly hasn't happened often.

‘06 would be my first guess. Maybe ’03 as well, although that team wasn’t very ‘good,’ they just won the division. It seems we only win the division when we’re the only good team around. Which doesn’t bode well for this season.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Maybe..I’m just finally enjoying it being more than a two team race. Then again Cincy just lost two in a row, so it might be back to a two team race…but lots of football left

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Dalton is definitely a threat

this guy looks a LOT better than most rookie QBs do. I dare say he even looks better than Bradford did last season (albeit with much better supporting crewmembers).

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by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no reason to think he won’t be pretty good in the future, but I don’t think Dalton’s performance yesterday was anything to write home about. The announcers wouldn’t shut up about his accuracy as he threw 24/45 with three interceptions. Of those 24 receptions, several were circus catches or required a receiver to lay out to make the catch. He did this against a defense that had to respect the run. I’m sure he’ll be a thorn in our collective sides in years to come, but I didn’t think what he did yesterday was too far outside of the realm of what NFL fans have come to expect from rookie quarterbacks in recent years.

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by Ampallang on Nov 21, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I forgot to mention that several of Dalton’s big plays came on complete secondary breakdowns (and Smith’s first rookie mistake). I remember several receptions without a defender in the same ZIP code.

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by Ampallang on Nov 21, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I also think you have to keep in mind that while playing from behind, and being essentially forced to throw the ball 45 times, his completion percentage was bound to dip as passing situations became more obvious. Of the 24 he completed, some of those throws looked pretty damn good to me.

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by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the majority of his incompletions

came in the 2nd quarter (something like 6/16) when they were still winning. He was horrible in the middle of the game and a large reason why the momentum shifted our way.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

maybe you’re right

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by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This will be the first time i wanted to watch football on thanksgiving. I see the 9ers offense like seattle’s. Gore can hurt us like marshawn did. Alex isnt a polished qb but playing well. They are going to run 65% of the time. When they throw we need to be ready. Ravens win 20-9

by Raven_all_day on Nov 20, 2011 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

Green Bay vs Detroit will be a good one also.

We can’t expect Rice to have a good game (SF hasn’t allowed a rushing TD all year) so we will need Joe to get it done. If we can stop Gore and not allow Smith to go down field, which he rarely does, we will have a good chance.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

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by Mr MaLoR on Nov 20, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

He just needs 20 carries. If he has a big game or not he just needs to get those carries.

by Raven_all_day on Nov 20, 2011 9:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m expecting a monster game from Rice if he has the benefit of solid playcalling. The Bullshit where they keep him in the game after a 55 yd run is ridiculous. It cost him a TD and cost the team 4 points. Mind boggling.

If they mix it up and use play action, Rice will haves his usual 160 from scrimmage.

by Evan Skev on Nov 20, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

May not have cost him a TD,

as maybe Ricky punches it in on first down. Fresh legs against a tired Bengals defense. Although I did think a non-fatigued Rice scores on the 2nd down run.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 20, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

True… Ricky could have gotten in there

The coaches amaze me… I cant wait to hear the reasoning behind keeping rice in AND giving him the ball on first. If I’m wrong, ill slap myself and apologize to cam and harbs.

by Evan Skev on Nov 20, 2011 10:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I cannot imagine a reason not to pull Rice

after he ran 50 yards. Even if Rice didn’t want to come out. And if ever there were a time for a shitty play-action (like the one ran on 3rd down), it’d be when your feature back can barely move forward.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 20, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I need you to understand this...

this is very important

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes the coaches see it as rewarding a player by letting them get the score.

by Raven_all_day on Nov 20, 2011 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Totally agree and I went crazy in the stands

I constantly harp on the fact that I did a study last year where virtually every time Rice gained 20+ yards on a play they almost always gave him the ball on the very next play and he NEVER has gained more than 2-3 yards.

I used to say it was a perfect time to bring Willis McGahee in to face a tired defense from chasing Rice and now the same with Ricky Williams but for some inexplicable reason they almost ALWAYS keep a tired Rice in there to get virtually NOTHING on the next play.

I thought Ricky up the gut 2-3 times after Rice’s run would have gotten us the TD and instead three poor play calls cost us the TD, which almost came back t haunt us.

It was so obvious Rice was gassed as he should have outrun the DBs but got caught from behind because his short legs couldn’t spin fast enough to get the long TD.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Nov 20, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Rookie TEs...?

Dickson and Pitta are both in year 2, right? Dickson, in particular had some big grabs for us last year when Heap got hurt.

by SL9178 on Nov 20, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

after many lackluster thanksgivings

the games lined up this time are good ones

by davver on Nov 20, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Great writeup!

Remember the broncos started 6-0 before they came to Baltimore… Same story.

SF is going to get exposed on Thursday. Not only have they not faced a team like the Ravens but they have an inferior O and D. Their QB is average on his best day. Gore and Davis are studs but those two wont be enough.
Suggs, Ngata, McPhee, and kruger will be having a turkey named Alex smith for thanksgiving dinner.

by Evan Skev on Nov 20, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

of course he's hungry

did you see those titties?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If you don't mind...I'm going to take the fifth...

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re gonna make the troll weep… Or sweep… Wait…

The sweep already happened

by Evan Skev on Nov 20, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

derrrrp

my life isn’t quite as pathetic. It’s just football son.
I will take a grilled chicken sandwich with a side salad and a Sprite though..
And if you must eat crayons, just don’t eat them over my salad.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweep, bro

35-7 in Baltimore along with the leveling of Whines Hard as seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhER2hWzqM

23-20 on your home turf… not that it’s your home but you know what I mean

along with this leveling of Whines Hard, Part Deux, as seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLKsV6FGpg

I thought it was very classy of RayRay not to get up with a stupid smile on his face and waving his hands for a trainer. Very classy.

Enjoy the video and the sweep! Crynz, yumz, derp, et cetera.

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha

You sound just like Pride of Detroit when the Lions were 5-0. Ha ha ha…

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by whatsURdeal on Nov 21, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha

you sound like a fan who is just starting to believe the hype… Ha Ha Ha

must have sucked having such a bad team for so long.
Glad you have something to be proud of finally.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

We'll see (-:

Finally? 5 SB. How many do you have again?

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by whatsURdeal on Nov 21, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

6

thanks for playing though

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I was replying to Evan Skev anyways

Not you.

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by whatsURdeal on Nov 21, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

well, i was replying to you.

and as much as I love people to talk shit to that moron, it’s just funny that 9ers fans are coming out of the woodwork all the sudden. Where have you been?

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Who are you?

To answer to? No one. I’ll get to your blog soon enough.

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by whatsURdeal on Nov 21, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

your father

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure you will

every team who is lucky to finally be winning has lots of annoying d-bags like you. I expect it. I expected it from KC too, but their fortunes have gone the same way yours will soon.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

One of the few things I'll agree with you on and I'm glad someone else notices....

The “KC Syndrome”. It was amazing last year all of the ridiculous predictions that they were giving. Running for 200 yards on us, or our D was going to be too old and slow to contain them. Just a while ago Bruce posted an article about a SF fans prediction for this game saying that they were just going to win….period. Nothing to back it up, just “we’re going to win”. Said it then I’ll say it now it’s like “Big Daddy”:
“Why do you win?”
“Because I win.”
This will def. be a great game to watch. Hopefully Ray will be in there so he and P. Willis can face of so to speak. Need to contain Gore as much as possible and get to A. Smith as much as possible. While he’s been good this year, it’s hard to dismiss that he’s been mediocre for the past few seasons and I doubt very much that a flip just switched and he’s now a “top ten” QB. Also, SF plays solid Special Teams, while this year, the Ravens have not. We’ve been losing too many field position battles.

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by WestminsterRaven on Nov 21, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I wrote about this somewhere else.

The main difference in Smith this season is he is not throwing interceptions. He also is throwing a lot less than in the past.

I’d worry a bit about Kendall Hunter, as he’s shown the propensity to gash some defenses. We rarely have had trouble with bruising backs (a la Gore), but we’ve had our troubles with the fast, shifty backs that can get the edge on us. As a mini-example, notice how much better Bernard Scott (9 for 40) did than Benson (15 for 41). CJ2K has also given us problems in the past.

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by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

The run D wasn’t great today, part of that is because Ray was out, but I thought the other guys stepped up at MLB and did well. We’ve given up big games to guys before like you said….add Peyton Hillis to the list. But like Ray says, “even a blind cat finds a meal now and again”. Gore though has had an outstanding season thus far, and I hope we’re ready, cause he IS their offense. I may be mistaken, but doesn’t he have at least 100 yards rushing in every game this season? Thought I heard that but I may be wrong. Any ways, I’m sure we’ll game plan to take Gore away just like everyone else game plans to take Rice away.

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by WestminsterRaven on Nov 21, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

how would you know if we would agree on anything?

you’re too busy worrying about what I say to Skev, and taking it as though I am talking about you.

For the last two weeks, I have been on the game thread, and the post game thread for your games. I haven’t said one negative word that wasn’t in response to a certain person. But when I’m talking to him and only him, you and AV23 get offended and start attacking me.

Either way, It don’t matter now. I have discovered the secret formula, so that won’t be a problem anymore.

Good game today, mate.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

and no..he's not a top ten qb

but he’s also not a bottom 5 qb like he was before.
I gotta believe that coaching has played a huge role in this. New coach or oc every year…no one to develop him..it’s gotta suck.

now that he has some sort of stability, he is doing what is necessary to win. I’m actually kind of glad for the guy.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It's all in good fun (for the most part) in my book....

Obviously we’re all passionate fans and get worked up sometimes, but most of my responses to you are mostly to amuse myself. On to the game….
I still see Smith as a game manager. Not someone who will make or break a team. Maybe he’ll find his groove, if he hasnt already, and continue to improve. But yes, like you said, it’s obviously coaching that’s the difference for SF this year. Jim Harbaugh has really turned them around and it’s impressive. They do have the fortune of playing in the NFC West but, that’s not soley how they’ve been sucessful. Like I said before, I think special teams will be a deciding factor in this game. They have looked great in that area and we have not…..not really one game can I say that the special team unit has contributed in a positive way in a game (no TDs, not great field position etc.) In actuality BAL and SF match up really well. Good defenses, great running backs, a few good WRs and TEs sprinkled in. I’d give us a QB advantage and SF a Special Teams advantage. This is one of those games that I would probably enjoy more if I weren’t a Bal fan cause I’m assuming it’ll be close.
Also, I think this is the first time this season that Bal is facing a similar opponent before Pitt does.

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.

by WestminsterRaven on Nov 21, 2011 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I like to amuse myself too. Do you think we have problems?

I honestly don’t know what to make of Smith. I kind of hate the term “game manager”. His stats aren’t stellar, but they don’t need to be with that defense and ri-god-damn-diculous running game.
At the same time, I still haven’t seen him carry the team on his back, but there is time for that.

About playing teams first. you will get Cleveland before we do as well. Steelers get them the thursday after you do. Then a week and four days later we get SF.

As i’ve said earlier. I can totally see this being a 3-2 game. Or maybe a 6-3…
I see it being a defensive battle.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I know I have some "problems" but....

Everyone on Earth is crazy in their own way and if they don’t acknowledge that than they’re in denial haha. I truly believe everyone has a little crazy in them, some are just better at hiding it than some others.
If you wouldn’t call Smith a “game manager” what would you call him? He’s certainly not a guy that you tell to to throw the ball 35-40 times to win the game. I’ve seen what they’re doing with their O all over the NFL, including early in Joe’s career here. Give the ball to your star running back, let them carry the load and make a few tosses here and there. Not knocking it cause it clearly works for them. Maybe hes a late bloomer.
If I take off my homer hat for a min. I don’t see how an AFC team wins the Super Bowl this year. GB is great, NO is solid, CHI looks brilliant at times (Cutler injury pending), Det is in there, and SF will have to prove themselves the next several weeks….every week. This game will be close and hard fought. Lots of pride and bragging rights on the line in the Harbaugh family, and both coaches want it baaaaad.

"Don't throw it, don't throw it, don't throw it. I know y'all going to throw it, they going to throw it anyway. I wouldn't throw it. Don't do it." - Ed Reed

You say tomato, I say tomahto. You say Six, I say Sweep.

by WestminsterRaven on Nov 21, 2011 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

but do both teams want it bad?

SF is unquestionably in control of their division, and frankly, they can afford to drop one on the road out of conference here. The loss wouldn’t look too bad for them. We, on the other hand, want to take control of our whole conference, and we need this win.

How many teams have beaten us at home in the last two seasons? One. Pittsburgh. San Fran is not Pittsburgh.

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what I'd call him

I just hate that term lol.

As far as an AFC team winning. Yeah, right now it’s hard to imagine, but things will change. There are only two teams that from the AFC right now that I think have a shot. I don’t really think that many NFC teams look legitimate either. (except the one obvious one) but..there are 6 games left so, we’ll see.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

"Annoying d-bags"?

Like fans whose team isn’t involved in this blog or game, yet they are on here trolling away and acting like a 6th grader?

Now I see why you keep talking about eating crayons. Get a life, dude.

"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"

by Blank x2 on Nov 21, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Do not feed the trolls. Let him talk about crayons…

pitt got swept by the Ravens this season and all pitt fans can do is whine about the officiating while drinking the wine from their sour grapes

Ravens fans are ABSOLUTELY LOVING IT.

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think your handle

is a valid response to your presence. Maybe if your team had been in the playoffs in recent memory, you wouldn’t be acting like 9-1 is such a big deal.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Nov 21, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

nevermind

anything you can say to piss that guy off, I’m all for it. But being cocky and arrogant because your team has won a few games is stupid. You’re in the west…that’s 6 guaranteed wins a year.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

We already have seven wins outside of the West

but it’s cute that you think our division is why we are 9-1. Before yesterday, it was 7-1 OUTSIDE the West.

Cocky and arrogant?

"The Harbaughcolypse is upon us. No one in the NFL is safe"

by Blank x2 on Nov 21, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

and yes..finally

as in, your team has been an embarrassment for almost ten years..

My team has had 7 losing seasons…in 42 years…

again, thanks for playing

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by FrankWyt on Nov 21, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You don’t know the history of the bandwagon you jumped on? Maybe some crynz or yumz will help your memory?

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 9:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not only does SF have to face us

They still need to face the Steelers too, on Dec. 19th, but in SF. Go 49ers!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Nov 20, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

not that this matters

but we got Thurs night game against the Browns, then the following Monday, we got SF.
Plenty of travel time. Again..that could be important, or irrelevant.

Same as you getting them on a short week could be important or irrelevant.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact that you see these two scenarios as similar is proof that you have dogshit for brains.

Keep trollin

by Evan Skev on Nov 20, 2011 11:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

derrrrrrrrrp

crynz iz yumzz

don’t really see how I said they were similar. But if you’re brain made you think that…then….
DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPP

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

does himz have a hard time coming up with new wordz?

derrrpp

himz needle skipping again?

Like I said. Grilled chicken, salad, sprite. or i’m having your boss send over a new waitress.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

you're 41......

thank god you don’t have kids.

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by FrankWyt on Nov 20, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick Rizzo, I have kids and none of them will grow up to be a poster child for the proletariat like you. Your parents did a fine job, Rizzo! They should be drawn and quartered.

Your prediction for this game is about as accurate as your predictions for the Ravens/pitt game. Which is to say they’re shit.

Let the fun begin, brother. Let’s see who gets the best of it.

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I recognize and understan that the Steelers abd Ravens are the teams to beat in the AFCN

Not to accept that is just dishonest. I would at least like both Ravens and Steelers fans to understand that both of your teams only play the other top team twice a year. The Bengals have four games against the top dogs. That is an uphill battle and a very tough nut to crack. The Ravens and Steelers are very good teams that can play great. The bengals are a good team that can play very good while the Browns are a not so good team that can step up and bite you if you take them lightly. They are capable of beating almost anyone on a very good day – they just have a hard time havibg them more than a few times a year.
They really have a tough row to hoe. I think we are closer than we have been in 20 years but are a couple of key players short and not quite experienced enough in key positions.
All of that could change next year but this year we are what we are just a bit short of being really good. Next year there could be three top dogs and don’t count Cleveland out.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 21, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

I see the Bengals beating pitt at home and taking a wild card spot. You have a young, talented team that is similar to the Ravens and will cruise by pitt as they deal with aging vets and a skyrocketing payroll.

Cinci has a great qb and wr, a great te and Rb, a ferocious d line and excellent secondary. AND plenty of room to hire some prime vet talent. You’re going to leap frog pitt because of the patchwork, hobo way their front office went about handling things this season.

Great game yesterday, John. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Bengals have four games against the top dogs. That is an uphill battle and a very tough nut to crack.

Yes that is brutality. What Joe and the Ravens had to go through to get to the point where sweeping the Steelers was a possibility, Dalton and the Bengals will have to do two-fold. This may be the football equivalent of the AL East…

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by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The Ravens played well yesterday, well, for half a game

Flacco played good yesterday. The interception was inexcusable and he is still missing easy short passes that keep a drive going. Torrey was able to reel in some long passes which make people forget the stalled drives. The offensive line still doesn’t seem to be able to create holes for the backs to have big games. Now for the defense. Is it that the front line doesn’t get enough pressure or the backs just can’t cover the receivers. The interceptions look good but you are a rookie QB missing his deep threat. The Webb interception was just a great effort on his part, the other two looked as bad as Flacco’s pass. I haven’t seen the Niners play so I really don’t know what the Ravens have to do to contain them. I see we have played two teams on each other’s schedule, the Seahawks which they dominate and we should have, and the Bengals which they just squeaked by just like us. So from that I still don’t know.

by TheShadow on Nov 21, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Flacco played good yesterday. The interception was inexcusable and he is still missing easy short passes that keep a drive going.

Yes that is true. I think that’s the Flacco I’ve come to know and accept. I can take that asinine interception and the botched handoff that he swiped off Leach’s elbow if for the rest of the game he can—generally speaking—dictate the pace of a game and move the ball downfield.

At this point I think the league accepts Flacco/Smith as a very serious big-play threat, and while I think it took some rough outings and low completion percentages to get there, we’re now reaping the benefits of that.

As for San Fran…

It will take a lot for me to change my mind about Alex Smith. At this point, I’d say he’s between the 10th and 15th best QB in the league on a good day. I’ve never seen the guy shred a defense or take control of a game—Gore does that. The way Marshawn made us look and the way O-Lines have been getting pushes up front against us worries me. That San Fran O-Line is no joke; certainly better than Seattle’s that manhandled us on that last drive.

Put San Fran in a position where they have to come from behind and I don’t think they’ll be able to. Put Alex Smith in a position where he has to win the game for them and I also don’t think he’ll be able to, especially not at M&T Bank Stadium in a night game. But this game could be close enough that San Fran will be able to play the kind of game that they’ve won all year, and if that happens we could have a close one. Or a loss.

Another tough defense for Joe to go up against. At this point I think we should all have faith in him, but San Fran, obviously, is a good team.

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is the pick inexcusable? Neither you nor Shadow has offered reasoning…

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He targeted a receiver who was not open nor was he breaking free. That ball was thrown directly to the defender. Brain fart.

How would you excuse the pick?

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

the CB wasn’t fooled. he shadowed perfectly and turned around when the ball was in the air

Dalton threw his ball directly to Smith… Flacco’s ball was in the air before the CB turned

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not comparing Dalton to Flacco. Flacco played by far the superior game. All in all, that was his only bad throw.

Flacco’s ball was in the air before the CB turned

Yes but his receiver wasn’t breaking free at all. Turning or not, Dickson was simply not going to be open at any point during that play. He wasn’t breaking free and he was approaching the sideline. Even before he turned, the defender had completely denied that route.

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

since when does a WR have to break free for the ball to be thrown? it was a good anticipation throw… my problem with it is that he didn’t step into it and bullet it into his chest… and i could see the frustration on his face after he threw it

its a little out route.. and i think even though it wont pick up a lot of yards, its a great way to setup a CB for a big gaine later…

not saying you’re wrong.. just telling you what I saw… entirely subjective

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well jackma, everyone makes mistakes. Everyone.

I have found that when you try to do everything totally mistake free it tightens you up and you lose your edge. Flacco cannot let himself get to the point where he is afraid to make a mistake or several of the good plays you had yesterday would not have even been attempted. Was it a bad play? Yea, hell I could have intercepted that ball (not really – too old) but Flacco has to put it behind him and – well – so do you.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 21, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I agree

I was saying to someone else that I can accept Flacco for the mistakes he makes since overall he played pretty well yesterday. He understood the mistake he made, nobody needed to explain anything to him.

One of the things I like most about Flacco is that you can tell he has a short memory. He’s never going to be too hard on himself because he always believes hes going to go right back out there on the next drive and score.

TO BILL BRASKY!!!

by jackmca on Nov 21, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No Thanks

The Ravens have 3 DUIs this season already.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 1:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

here go watch these and then stop back and let’s have a chat about how many rings you have and how many times the Ravens have beaten you in 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhER2hWzqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLKsV6FGpg

cheers

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

whats it like

To have no sense of humor and be defensive at all times. Youre sad, bro. You just dont like the comment coming from a steelers fan, one who doesnt troll here during games and does chime in occasionally with a reasonable opinion. But, whatever…..lighten up man.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

don’t take it personally… sorry if I hurt your feelings

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

You missed it the first time, but I pretty much told you to lighten up and have a sense of humor. Read it a few times, you might get it eventually. Looking forward to that jargon you call a response. Dont hurt yourself thinking too hard on your one liners.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey man don’t take it personally. I didn’t say it to you as a human, I said it to you as a pitt fan. If you can’t understand you’re eating shit for a hundred pitt trolls….

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 5:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You know that tune they play when you DON’T win on “the price is right”? – That’s the tune I hear every time you reply to anything. You seem to be obsessed with making every comment revolve around YOU. You like to be defensive and argue with a “pitt fan”. It isn’t my fault you cant laugh. You are what this site ISN’T about.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

and you cant understand that you are acting no better than the trolls that get under your skin. That’s hypocrisy, brother.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

What kind of reception did you expect when you come to a Ravens forum with a name like “steeltech” and make jokes about Ravens and drunk driving?

Would you like some hot tea and a backrub? Get the fuck out of here….get real

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Now who’s taking it personally?

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ravens to Steelers & Texans: “Pull Over… We’ll Drive!” – The word steelers will likely catch the attention of a steelers fan. “We’ll drive” refers to the ravens leading the way in the afc. The DUI comment wasnt about drunk driving, it was a fun jab at the ravens for their inconsistancy on the road this year (something your fellow ravens fans admit and joke about) But of course, this had to be explained to you because it hurt your feelings and everything you read is taken so literally. Like I said, lighten up, brother. Your hatred is ugly.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 21, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey I respect your opinion

And whines hard accused the police and DA office of trying to frame him after he was arrested for drunk driving. That’s something I don’t respect.

As long as you’re wearing black & yellow and acting like a typical pitt douche, you can kiss my ass. Nice joke though!

And enjoy second or third place this year… The road is fun

by Evan Skev on Nov 21, 2011 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry I caught you during your “special time of month”. Maybe your hormones wont be so erratic next time, and you wont pout and cry because someone put you on the defensive. Fragile little girl.

I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.

by steeltech on Nov 22, 2011 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with everything you say

Except that we ran Rice on the first play in BOTH games against Pittsburgh and he broke out for very long runs. We all know that in the second game, it was only a penalty on Torrey Smith that negated the TD.
So I say run it right down their throats as much as we can to open up the pass and for the pass to open up the run and so forth.
In my humble opinion.

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