the good, the bad, and THE UGLY
You know that feeling you get when your kid admits to you that they did something really stupid; not life-threatening, but really insipid nevertheless? That is essentially the same feeling as Monday night. You warn them about such-and-such (i.e. a trap game), and they still pull a bone-headed stunt- like get a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty that directly leads to an opposing FG; or attempt an onside kick when a touch-back would have sufficed -more on that gem later. Or, try to field a punt on the hop when THREE tacklers are closing in on you.
Really? You really thought that was a good idea at the time, son?
The Good
Kind of looking under the couch cushions for this one. Dennis Pitta and Sam Koch. Kind of lame when you are mentioning your punter and #2 TE as "The Good".
Torrey Smith. To his credit, he didn't stop fighting, even mixed it up a bit- took a little umbrage. I like the aggressiveness and toughness out of the rookie. Just don't get flagged…
We did generate a decent pass rush so that was a strong positive. And technically the defense did not give up any TD's -only 12 points. That is a positive. Yeah, I am reaching a bit...
The Bad
Ray Rice. Had tennis rackets for hands in terms of holding onto the ball. Very uncharacteristic for him. And receivers in general- yes Flacco was off the mark most of the night (more on that), but they dropped too many balls.
Ed Reed. This would have been an ugly but the Ravens recovered. I realize he was trying to "make a play" -make something happen; light a spark, but THAT was not it...
Billy Cundiff. If he nails that FG, very different ballgame.
Overall offensive execution. It would be tempting to lay all of this at Cam's and/or Joe's feet. And Joe's fumble was pretty bad/ugly. And the game ending pick was Joe's fault. But let us go back in time to the overall execution, and lack thereof, by the offensive unit. Cam may of called a good game or a bad game -who cares as it is damn near hard to tell given that they had something like zero net offensive yards and zero first downs until midway through the third quarter! They are professionals for gosh sake -act like it! It is the NFL- you can trip over your own feet three times in a row and get a first down at some point. How hard can it be? Don't answer that...
The offensive unit looked like a bunch of hung-over fraternity league flag footballers at an 8AM Saturday morning game after a Friday night that was "one for the ages". None of them were in sync, none of them could run block or pass block or catch or not hold. Joe would have been better served by ignoring the playbook, drawing the plays in the dirt and then trying to tell everybody where to go... just abysmal execution.
The Ugly
You have got to keep your composure. You cannot get a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty and tossed from the game. No excuse for that. Even if it was a lame call. Which leads to-
Penalties in general. The ones we legitimately committed cannot continue to be committed. The offensive holding killed us. And then there were phantom penalties by the refs like the leading with the helmet by Pollard. That was not leading, that was textbook tackling! Pollard lead with the shoulder pad and hit him in the numbers. And that was a third down stop. Instead, Jax kicks a FG. And how does the ref miss the delay of game on Jacksonville’s last kickoff? The fix was in, I tell ya… follow the money as they say. Somebody made a killing by taking Jacksonville Monday night. Where’s Hal Holbrook when you need him?
The "hurry-up" offense. I put it in quotes because it was anything but. What the heck was going on with that? You are supposed to call two or three plays at a time so that as soon as the previous play ends, you get up to the line of scrimmage and go. It seemed like it was taking forever for the plays to get in from the sideline and then forever to get everybody set. We should have scored that TD around 2:30, not 2:02.
And now we come to the epitome of last night’s game. Why would you call for an onside kick? Even if the ball touches the 45, we get it at the about the 42 (about where Ruki stepped out of bounds), with 2:02 left. High risk for minimal reward: if Cundiff boots it out of the end zone, Jax gets it at the 20. Assuming we stop them which is a very reasonable assumption since we did indeed stop them. Would have prevented another Jax FG. They would have had to punt from inside their own 30. Assume a net of 40+, we get it around our 30, with about 1:40 left. So all an onside kick would have done is gotten us ten or twelve or so more yards and twenty some odd seconds, and the two-minute warning time-out. Given my touchback scenario, Ravens down 9-7, first and ten at about our 30 with 1:40 to go, no timeouts. VERY DO-ABLE!!! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, HARBS???????????? And the really bad part, the part that is still killing me about that call, is that it was actually a very good onside kick play that now everybody has seen. That should have been saved for when we really needed a must-have onside kick –not a situation where, at least, the argument could have been made for a touchback.
Now we welcome the Arizona Cardinals to Baltimore. Joe has got to play a whole bunch better. He was off the mark most of the night. Still moved around the pocket well, but ball security is still an issue. It appears to these novice eyes that teams are trying to apply pressure straight up the middle as opposed to the edges to get into Joe’s face. Defenses seem to think Joe is most vulnerable to pressure up the middle. Joe is in a funk right now. He has had some good games and some bad games, and even been up-and-down within games. He has been the 'Pictionary' definition of "consistently inconsistent". Ever the optimist (or if you prefer spin-meister), I hope that game-ending pick wakes Joe up. I hope he suddenly had an epiphany, and he snaps out of this funk. Sometimes, you do not realize how bad you are doing until you have a true shock to the system. I hope this was it. Joe is going to keep seeing Cover-2 again and again and again and again. The two Cincy games will be exact duplicates of that Jax defense –count on it.
But it is not all Joe’s fault. Like I mentioned above, plenty of blame to go around on all facets of the offense for the stinky pile of doggy doughnuts laid Monday night. The entire offense needs to get it together. Here’s a quarter, please go buy a clue on how to block. ANY BLOCKING, please. Just knock the snot out of the guy in front of you for Pete’s sake. And Ray Rice needs to contract a quick case of amnesia and just forget about Monday night, and use a little more "3M Spray Mount Adhesive" on his hands.
The other wince I have is that P-burgh is now in first place. So we are going to have to deal with all them, over here now. The good news, we still control our destiny.
That destiny starts with this short week. I am glad it is a short week. The Ravens need to be run very hard during practice this week, and then thrown right back into the maelstrom against Arizona. We have to learn how to prepare, again; how not to take teams lightly, again; and play like we have been there, again.
Bottom line, we just never got off the plane Monday. Maybe it was the time zone change… oh, that’s right… They gotta correct this quickly, and bring this puppy home. And it all starts Sunday against Arizona.
The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!
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I didn’t really mind Harbs going for the onside kick. We were a cm from getting it legally. The onside kick didnt make a difference because we couldnt move the ball anyway. Flacco threw the pick so that showed me that he couldnt win this game for us anyway. The only part about the kick was that Harbs didnt give our defense a chance to make a play for us.
Just to note, I actually agree with almost everything Vlad said.
Raven – I would agree with you that Joe (and the offense) could not move the ball all night – except for the series that ended in the onside kick. He had just moved the ball 90 yards to get the TD. So to say that the onside didn’t matter because Joe couldn’t move the ball, isn’t exactly accurate, since he just had. I have to go with the idea of momentum. And, without the onside, he only needed to move the ball 40 yards or so to set up a winning FG. Now, while I’m sure Cam would have tried for those 40 yards by calling for three 40 yard go routes in row, we still should have been given that chance.
Monkey Feces for OC.
re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs
by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 26, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If Flacco throws 400 yards i still wont be happy because he could very well throw 50 yards against Pitt next week.
Ironically
I almost expect Flacco to lay yet another egg against Arizona, and then come out looking like Unitas at P-burgh -just been that kind of wacky season…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
What The...???
The post was suppose to be titled “Ironically”
And then I was going to say, “Flacco could lay yet another egg against Arizona, and then come out looking like Unitas against P-burgh”
Not sure what just happened… And I certainly did not intend for the double post. Kind of like a modern day version of the needle getting stuck on a record player… yeah, I have a few years behind me…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Okay STOP THE MONKEYS
What the eff???
I swear, there was a duplicate post of mine that was just the title and no body. And now it is gone…?
Look, I may have upped the quantities of little purple pills this week, but this is ridiculous…
Better not be a squeeler fan messin’ with me or I am going to go all Gitmo on them… I… Like… Clowns…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Just because you're paranoid
doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.
Great post as always Vlad. Too bad we need the D to score for them to get a good/
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Oct 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The odd double fake post happened to me last week too.
Good post man. Love the optimism.
Cam’s got to call more man beater routes. Screens as well. It doesn’t matter if they sniff one out, keep calling them if they’re playing man coverage. Joe’s also got to start running for 1st downs too. There’s not that many eyes on him in man coverage.
The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.
Okay
I Feel much better now:
The odd double fake post happened to me last week too
Must be a BB phenomenon… servers must be hosted by an ASP out of Mongolia…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Flacco lighting up Pittsburgh on primetime? Joe always folds under the black sky and bright lights.
I’ll be happy to come out of Pittsburgh with 175 yards, 1 int and 2 fumbles in a 17 point loss.
That jags game made me delusional, I am well aware of this.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And I thought I was out on the ledge
MaLoR done jumped!
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Oct 26, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It takes alot for me to say those things. That performance 2 days ago took a chunk out of my heart.
If there is one thing I hate in this world, it is when the “Told You So’s” have a full clip of ammunition to chop you up with.
I am hopeful things will improve, but that was the worst offensive performance I’ve ever seen. Another one like that, and this team will be split in two.
I haven’t watched espn or nfl network in 4 days, do you know how tough that is?
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This is the first time I’ve even looked at anything football related since Monday.
Tuesday morning I went to see the doc to get a follow up on my stress fractures, and when they took my vitals my blood pressure was 148/90. He was like “did you just smoke a pack of cigarettes? Drink a pot of coffee?” I said, “I watched a really bad football game last night.”
“Try to relax,” he said.
Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.
by jackmca on Oct 27, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mr MaLoR
I too had part of my heart ripped out on Monday night. I was ready to give up the season and even made a comment on the open thread to that effect. But I have to keep in mind that the season is not over and I found comfort in the mental image of Cam Cameron hiding from Ray Lewis and T Sizzle.
mental image of Cam Cameron hiding from Ray Lewis and T Sizzle.
Knowing Cam, he’ll be hiding behind a chain link fence like no one can see him.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Oct 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if Cam’s eyes are closed, then no one can see him. That’s a proven fact.
Monkey Feces for OC.
re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs
by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 28, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
HA that one actually got me to laugh out loud at my office. I can just picture him standing behind items that are WAY too small for him to hide behind just muttering to himself “You can’t see me”.
•WaterCooler – You can clearly see his head through the water tank
•Chain link fence
•Holding a puppy in front of his head
•Right behind Flacco
•Sideways behind a sapling next to the field
•Trying to stay still pressed up against the building like he has camo on
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Oct 28, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
Initially I thought this was in sarcasm; in jest. But man, this is like the third sign of the Apocalypse when MaLoR turns to the Dark Side. “Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering”. Fear not MaLoR. This too shall pass.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
This too shall pass.
Hopefully it passes better than our QB.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
I'm reminded of the Jeff Bridges car commercial (Hyundai):
Don’t like your QB? Get a new one.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Thursday thoughts
Today I had an epiphany which I’ll share to hopefully get MaLoR back drinking some good ol’ Purple Kool-Aide.
Throw out the JAX game – and I mean totally disregard it – as a fluke, the perfect storm of everything that could go wrong gone wrong. Nothing can rationally explain what happened. Therefore, by this logic, the odds are infinitesimal that it will ever happen again.
Sunday, and from here on out, everything will return to normal. Not a perfect offense, but a good offense. Combined with a great defense. The Ravens can still be a championship caliber team.
But first we just need to forget. Look forward, not backward. And sing along.
Don’t worry about a thing. ’Cause every little thing gonna be all right!
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
Coincidentally
This the song I go to bed to every night. Of course, the wife thinks it is a little creepy…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Confucius says ...
Never mention little thing when getting in bed with woman.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Oct 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Therefore, by this logic, the odds are infinitesimal that it will ever happen again
Cough cough, the Tenn game, cough cough.
But I get what you are saying and its accurate. Lets just move past this game and on to the next one. Yay Arizona sucks!
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Oct 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Comparing the Tenn game to the Jax game ...
is like comparing the invasion of Grenada to the Normandy landing and WW II.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Oct 28, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Why? Our offense was pure crap in that game as well. Couldn’t block, WR couldn’t get off press coverage.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
The exact same problems in both games, just different colored jerseys
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Oct 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
1st half stats
Tenn game:
Flacco – 8/16 for 95 yards, 1 touchdown & 1 interception
Rice – 9 rushes/36, 65 total yards, 1 touchdown
JAX game:
Flacco – 6/16 for 8 yards
Rice – 13 yards, 1 fumble
16 total yards on 25 plays (-9 yards offense including penalties), 0 1st downs, 0 points
TENN game = not good
JAX game = total meltdown
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
But the issues are the same really. Guys not getting open, the line not blocking, etc. The stats were a little different, but the same issues were there.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Oct 28, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple of notes on this
I absolutely LOVED this post and this series. The Jax game was perfect for this type of story. Unfortunately, you could have just shortened the title to, “THE UGLY” as there was no middle ground of “bad” and while I also thought Koch was his usual beast, it’s sad that the punter had to stand out. Nine punts?
Pitta was okay, but definitely not in the category of “good.” Torrey Smith proved he has hands to go with his speed, regardless of whether you think he was in or out of bounds. I thought Suggs had a good game on defense.
The thing that bothered me most about the onsides kick was at the press conference the next day,Harbs reiterated that not only did he think it was the right call, but he would do it again in the same situation. He said there was a 21% chance of recovering it and we did, but it wasn’t kicked far enough. I wanted to shout out it was the wrong call and the main reason we recovered it was that it didn’t go far enough!!! However, I’d lose my credentials forever and get dragged out yelling, “don’t tase me bro,” which would have looked pretty dismal for the future of the Beatdown.
Great job, vlad. Keep it up!
aka 'Rexx'
Thanks Bruce
I appreciate that.
Suggs had a good game. The past two games, the pass rush has been so dominant and with a multitude of players involved e.g. kruger got a sack Monday night, that it has appeared to be a true team effort in the pass rushing department. But you are right, Suggs did have an overall good game.
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
if you run the #s
i’m betting that going or not going for the onside isn’t that big of a difference. there are all sorts of pluses and minuses either way.
Rather see the D get a shot the way they were forcing fumbles but you’re right
And I also think when we crush pitt again all will be right until we lose to the brizzowns
by Evan Skev on Oct 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would have kicked it and turned it over to the D
but Harbs believed we had a good play and it did just miss by 6". And the O did still get the ball back with enough time to score. So I won’t blame Harbs for taking a chance with an agressive call and at the same time blame Cam for not doing the same.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Oct 26, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
well, if the kick had been recovered by them after traveling 10 yards
they probably would have run three times for 3 yards just like they did but not be in field goal range without the penalty yards.
plus schobee could have missed the field goal and given it to us on the 40 something.
essentially what happened was the worst possible outcome from the onside kick. there was a decent probability of it turning out better then that.
With the way Scobee was dialed in
I wouldn’t have bet on him missing from anywhere.
Our y'all not used to the punter being the all-star?
Happened plenty of times with Richardson and Zastudil.
In terms of the onside kick, did anyone call Harbaugh out for pulling numbers out of his ass (that is, did anyone ask how he came up with those numbers)?
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Oct 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was Also
Wondering about that 21% figure. Did he take into account Cundiff experiencing a peristaltic process which released some flatus at the most inopportune moment- just as his metatarsus was about to make contact with the pigskin or any of the nearly billion other possible negative contingencies that could have befallen Cundiff?
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind
Thought Pollard played a good game. Even though Zbi is coming back this week probably, i think Pollard should continue to start.
The way he was hitting guys Monday night i was amazed. Haven’t seen that since Brian Dawkins a few years ago.
I agree. Pollard has earned the start.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Oct 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Pollard did play like a man amongst boys
Every shot he took was big hit. He has not been fined yet and says he doesn’t expect to.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Calling our hurry up offense ugly is a compliment. Who has ever seen a hurry up offense snap the ball with 10 seconds left on the play clock……..after a 8 yard gain.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 26, 2011 11:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
More like.....
“hurry up and wait”
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And Flacco’s idea of telling the guys to hustle was a few finger waves.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 27, 2011 12:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have.
Go watch the end of the Chargers-Jets game again. That was worse than our 2-min offense, if that’s even possible.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s because it is Norv Turner. He has the worst clock management in the history of this league. That guy is a terrible coach, he is known for his idiot ways of “controlling” the clock.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 27, 2011 10:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just showing you it could be worse.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
by organizedchaos52 on Oct 28, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
True. And to think those two were once a tandem……scary.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
It created a “suck” black hole and it had the negative effect of what they were actually doing.
Monkey Feces for OC!
by Mstevens_Design on Oct 28, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
For the past three years Joe Flacco has been Kyle Boller on a good team.
Monday night you saw Joe on a bad team and he was no different than Kyle Boller. I was at the Monday night game a few years back when Kyle Boller shredded the Packers, who were the #1 defense, because he was playing on a good team and everything was perfect. Joe has shown this year when it is up to him to win the game he just can’t do it. He needed to be schooled and sit on the bench just like Aaron Rodgers and watch a professional run the offense and learn. We better start looking at next years draft to see if there is a quarterback who can learn from the seasoned one we are going to have to bring in to run the team. Sorry Ray and Ed, you ain’t getting a ring this year unless there are drastic changes made.
Flacco has in no way been comparable to Boller
Just because he has a bad game here and there it doesn’t equal Boller who couldn’t stand up half the time and the other half the time was throwing picks left and right.
The difference b/w flacco and rogers isn’t that rogers got to watch favre… that’s absurd. Rogers is just plain better than flacco.
When the situation is good, flacco is good. He can make all the throws, and he can win you games— even in the clutch. He has done so before. But he isn’t a world-beater. When everything around him breaks down, from O-line to receivers—and on Monday it did—he will look bad. That’s who Joe is. We can win with him, but not with Cameron.
Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.
by jackmca on Oct 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s easy using hindsight, but how awesome would it have been if we drafted Rodgers instead of Mark Clayton?
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Not sure how Rodgers would have felt about that. In Green Bay, he had to spend three years on the bench. Under Billick here, he would have spent 3 years on his knees…
Monkey Feces for OC.
re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs
by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 27, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Home & Away
I’m convinced we’re going to beat Arizona pretty bad on Sunday. We’ve been very mediocre
on the road for the past few years. Obviously that’s a result of other factors that we all know about. But if you look back…all the crappy losses to teams like the Jaguars and others almost always happen on the road. When I don’t have hyper anxiety about the road games, I’ll know we’re a championship team.
What's wrong with giving "the good" to a tight end?
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
Except
…it was our #2 TE…
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."
For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

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