Ravens' Chuck Pagano Deserves Credit For Defense
If you look at the players on the field when the Baltimore Ravens defense takes the field, there is not a significant difference between the guys you see in 2011 and the ones who played in 2010. Everyone has another year of experience and to be fair to some of them, there are a couple of new faces, or at least some that you are seeing more than you did last year. However, the difference between the two units is blatantly obvious in the results seen on the field.
The Ravens always seem to be among the best defensive teams in the league each year, but certain issues from 2010 do not seem to remain in this year's group. Last year, the Ravens were among the worst teams in sacking the opposing quarterbacks. Despite being a top-five defense, they relied more on turnovers and interceptions than pressure on the QB to force the opposition's hand.
All too often, the defense rushed only three players and sat back in coverage, giving the opposing QB way too much time to ultimately pick apart the Ravens defense for big gains in critical situations. In the AFC Divisional Playoff Game in January, that exact thing happened when Pittsburgh Steelers B Ben Roethlisberger had time to wait and then unleash the game-changing bomb that was the key play in the Steelers victory.
After the 2010 season, then-Defensive Coordinator Greg Mattison left the team to take the same position at his college alma mater, the University of Michigan. The Ravens promoted Chuck Pagano to the Defensive Coordinator position, who vowed to return the team to the type of "Organized Chaos" that former DC and now New York Jets head coach Rex Ryan used to employ.
From a story in USA Today, Pagano unleashed the Ravens defense to pressure the QB with stunts, movement and constant blitzing that has vaulted them to the top of the NFL in terms of points allowed (14/game), ultimately the most important defensive statistic. He involves the players in the decision-making process, which the players obviously take ownership of and respect the man for permitting their input instead of dictating the schemes to them. Opposing QB's have no idea where the pressure is coming form and with that, it allows the team's best pass rusher, Terrell Suggs to free-lance where he sees fit and chase quarterbacks all over the field, forcing them into making big mistakes.
Pagano is referred to as a "players-coach," which means he gives them the leeway they feel makes them a better player and together, a better unit. This has definitely proved true on the field, although at times they get caught and burned but still are the stingiest team in the league on that side of the ball. This will continue to not only drive and lead this team towards the post-season and the crazy thing is, good for the Ravens and bad for their opponents, is that with certain players due to return to the active roster shortly, this defense could be getting healthy and even better than it already is.
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The players are playing great, but Pagano absolutely deserves credit. He’s been much better than Mattison and gave us exactly what we need. Only problem is he’s probably not going to be here much longer. I would imagine he will be getting some calls every off-season now.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
No more hiring the coach’s buddies. Thanks
by Evan Skev on Oct 21, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I remember reading when Mattison was hired, they were thinking about giving it to Pagano, but thought he was too strict at the time. Not sure exactly what that meant, but damn glad to have this nut-job as our D-Cor now.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
While I, too, like Pagano very much, and recognize how well he has these guys playing, I must say a word in fairness to Mattison:
Last year our defensive backfield was not nearly as good as as this year. Therefore, it was much more difficult to blitz, because if the QB reads it in time, his WRs, TE, and RB are out there wide open.
So it wasn’t Mattison simply being a wuss. He was inhibited by a lack of DB talent.
Actually as of what we have actually got to play with we had more help last year. Last year it was Carr, Webb, Wilson, Cary, Fabian this year because of injuries it’s Webb, Cary, Gorrer, Brown, Mcann.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Its amazing what a pass rush can do for the secondary. As Jazz would say “A good pass rush will make any CB look good”.
"Is adult entertainment killing our children, or is killing children entertaining adults?"
-Marilyn Manson
by StuckInUtah on Oct 21, 2011 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just like Shadow would say “Good pass protection will make any QB look good”
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Except, of course, for Bulger – because you can’t improve on perfection.
re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs
by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 21, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny how cover-all phrases enable someone to maintain any absurd opinion
Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.
by jackmca on Oct 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gorrer
Speaking of whom, the first time I had ever seen this guy Gorrer or even knew he was on the team or – for that matter – had even heard of him – was when he made that pretty good play towards the end of the Houston game; i.e., the one that got reviewed.
Anyone have the vaguest notion of who the hell he is? And was that a fluke good play, never to be repeated, or is he actually a decent defensive back?
— Fanger.
he’s an undrafted 2nd year player and so far the kid looks like a stud. He made a couple plays in the Houston game and also made a couple plays against santonio Holmes in the jets game. He’s another CB with good size (6 foot) and long arms. so far looks like he could be a steal. He’s getting time over Chykie who we drafted in the 5th, so I believe the coaches really like him.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I am not exactly sure everyone would agree before the season that Cary Williams and Danny Gorrer would be upgrades from Foxworth and Fabian at this point.
Now, those two were hurting us for different reasons, but no one here really had any idea that Cary and Gorrer would be playing THIS well.
I actually think if the normal fan from outside our team looks at our roster compared to last year, they would say last years was better at CB.
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
Didn't we have this discussion a few weeks ago?
All too often, the defense rushed only three players and sat back in coverage, giving the opposing QB way too much time to ultimately pick apart the Ravens defense for big gains in critical situations.
Rush 3 and lay back or rush 4 or 5 (or sometimes more!) and pressure?
I still say the latter is almost always best. I wonder if Filmstudy has some good stats on this, although stats without context (both game context and player context) can be misleading.
I agree! I’d rather see a defense force a qb to make a quick decision than allow him to have time to find an open wr
Smith and JJ were full participants in practice today. That means we get to see Smith in action Monday
by Evan Skev on Oct 21, 2011 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think
Pagano offers a nice balance between sending enough on the rush to actually hurry the QB and controlling/limiting the all-out blitzes so that we’re not leaving everybody in single coverage on every critical pass play. Sort of a balance between Mattison and what Ryan used to do, if you will. It’s been working well, so props to Pagano for sure.
Any ideas?
Soon he will be making plays for our D, he will need a good nick name. Jimmy Smith is to vanilla.
Double-Deuce
"Is adult entertainment killing our children, or is killing children entertaining adults?"
-Marilyn Manson
by StuckInUtah on Oct 21, 2011 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jimmy the Kid, or J-Kid. But I definitely like Double-Deuce.
"Is adult entertainment killing our children, or is killing children entertaining adults?"
-Marilyn Manson
by StuckInUtah on Oct 21, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Carr is likely to play also. He is feeling good and expects to play. Jaguars are about to get blown out. 38-0
by Raven_all_day on Oct 21, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think tyrod might get sometime.
by Raven_all_day on Oct 21, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First of all,
the Jags do have a very respectable defense, at least based on their stats so far and a quick browse of their SBN fans (who are pretty uniformly down on their team’s chances this week except for their D). I hope the Ravens’ players aren’t believing this stuff about blowouts, ’cause if they are that is a recipe for an upset.
And second, you guys are talking about Jimmy Smith like he is the second coming of Revis. Or at least C-Mac in his salad days. The guy is just a rookie, he hasn’t played one down on defense yet. You are sounding like everyone sounded like when Weiters came up for the Os—put him in HoF already, what’re ya waitin’ for! I think the guy is talented too, but for heaven’s sake, CB in the pros is a tough position (don’t ask me what isn’t a tough position in the pros!). Let the poor guy get his feet wet before anointing him!
by Sam25 on Oct 22, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good post, Sam…no game is a gimme and the ravens have a long way to go before they do anything besides make a bunch of money.
As for Smith, hush cover skills translate immediately… He may not be a hof player yet but he can cover just about any wr 1 on 1
by Evan Skev on Oct 22, 2011 8:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not getting where you’re picking up the whole “Jimmy is a HoF’er” talk, but people are excited to see him play (on something other than Special Teams). The kid is a potential Top 10 talent that slipped to us, why wouldn’t we be amped to see him on the field?
"Is adult entertainment killing our children, or is killing children entertaining adults?"
-Marilyn Manson
by StuckInUtah on Oct 22, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it should be interesting to see how Jimmy Smith plays on the field and knowing that the other cornerbacks that were drafted higher than him
like Patrick peterson and Prince haven’t been too great, should make it even more iinteresting to see how jimmy smith
"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore
Just at first glance the caption on that pic looks like it should read..
Suggs: " Does it look like i’m smillin’ Mother Fuc#$%!!!!"
HAHA
JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!
Two of the smartest athletes in the history of modern pro team sports are on our D
They need to be getting much more attention than they are this season.
Ed Reed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQktJPMW7dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8__qG3BZ0g0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl6UW-r4Pjw
Dang, ed reed’s a beast. How did he run that 108 yarder without getting tackled, he must have broke 5 of them. I guess that’s a rhetorical question, thanks for the vids.
Also, did you know that, the Montreal Alouettes, my city’s CFL team, used to be the Baltimore Stallions, having made the move in 1996? Another reason that I’m a baltimore fan…everything keeps coming together.
Montreal Canadiens///Toronto Blue Jays///Baltimore Ravens
Is that Griese trembling while he tries to audible to a play that won’t get him broken in half?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMfqOCl3m80&feature=player_detailpage#t=125s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XxUnKB_f4no#t=40s
keep watching… at 1:11 he demolishes ochostinko AND fabian wash(?)




















