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The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

A win is still a win, even more so when over a quality opponent.  Yes, the Baltimore Ravens were inconsistent at times and other times were a well-oiled machine.  Maddening, I know, but at the end of the day another two touchdown victory that was all but done about mid-way through the fourth quarter in the Ravens 29-14 victory over the Houston Texans yesterday at M&T Bank Stadium. Even before then, you could feel a momentum swing towards the Ravens where I knew we were going to win.

Star-divide

The Good

Ray Rice.  Just a dagger when it looked like he was going to fall, he was able to keep his balance and got the ball down to like the three late in the game.  Also, when he puts on his escape-valve costume for QB Joe Flacco, I think his hands grow three sizes bigger, which is the only explanation for the increasingly circus-like catches he is forced to make.  Props to Ricky Williams for getting his first tally of the 2011 season as a Raven.

The pass rush.  Just about everybody got in on Texans QB Matt Schaub.  Almost delivered the knockout on Schaub.  Our pass rush may not be statistically the best in the league (don’t know), but it has got to be the most feared.  Defense overall did a nice job today. A few unlucky bounces, a few minor breakdowns, but overall they frustrated the Texans mightily.  And they really stiffened up on fourth down.  Past few years, we have not been so dominant on fourth down –not like we used to be wwwaaayyyy back in the day.  Hopefully it is a trend and not an anomaly.

Bombs- we hit on what two, three?  Nice to see.  Also, somewhat unexpected.  Not that they were bad or head-scratching calls, but they were kind of unexpected given the situation at those particular moments.  Glad to see OC Cam Cameron is not afraid to pick his spots to be aggressive.  And what a nice adjustment rookie WR Torrey Smith made on the ball for his bomb.

Anquan Boldin and Ed Dickson.  Boldin had a monster day and Dickson caught a couple of critical passes.

Billy Cundiff.  Lost track of the number of touchbacks.  And was perfect on FG’s.  Nice day’s work.

The Bad

Flacco’s second quarter.  Flacco had a great opening drive, then just turtled during the second quarter.  It seems like with him, sometimes, it is two steps forward one step back.  He showed good pocket presence, but then his ball security was atrocious.  Joe, boobky, it takes the whole package, not just either or…  But to his credit, he did make some nice deep throws in the second half to seal the deal.  He also did prolong a few plays and convert some third downs.  So yeah, an up-and-down day…

Red Zone efficiency on offense.  During the playoffs, a good chunk of those FG’s have got to become TD’s.  At times, it seems like the offense grinds to a halt in the Red Zone.

The Ugly

Pass blocking.  Whatever the O-Line did against the Pittsburgh Steelers, other teams are hip to that, and have now figured out how to exploit it.  Whether it be RG Andre Gurode just not being there yet, or whatever, our O-Line has got to adjust.

The Jacksonville Jaguars and Arizona Cardinals are up next- at Jacksonville on Monday Night Football and then hosting the Cardinals.   Both are potential trap games.  The biggest thing is to keep focused and secure two victories in very winnable games and get healthy.  It is killing us that guard Ben Grubbs, rookie CB Jimmy Smith and WR Lee Evans are still out…  Doesn't help either that CB Chris Carr and safety Tom Zbikowski are also wounded...  Damn, that list is like a starting secondary for most teams and two major offensive parts...

On second thought, I think *we* were the undermanned team yesterday...

The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!

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Great write-up as always vlad

I think you definitely hit the right points. I will add one “good” after my rant last game.

Congrats to the Ravens for fixing the lines/security getting into the game. Two weeks ago it took almost an hour – yesterday was more like 10 minutes. The Ravens are a class organization that doesn’t just pretend to listen to fans – they care about the fan experience and actually do something about it. (Hear that Mr. Angelos?)

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Oct 17, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I found it easier to get into the game

but I wonder if it was because I hit the entrance about 15 minutes earlier than usual. The leag part of the searching, as is all of it, is ridiculous.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 17, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

until some lunatic sneaks a gun or knife in and something bad happens

then everyone will be screaming for metal detectors and more security. It’s a fine line they have to walk, and they do a pretty good job. Luckily more incidents like the one to start the baseball season in…was it LA or San Fran?….anyway luckily those don’t happen more often.

by YeahDonnie on Oct 17, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco

I will add Flacco Q1, Q3 and Q4 to the Good list. We don’t win this game without him staying cool under pressure and delivering some huge big-time passes. The Ravens didn’t try to curl up in a ball and nurse the lead when it was 16-14 or 19-14. In prior years, they would go 3 and out and be happy to let the defense win it. They kept attacking and took the pressure off the D. Joe delivered in the clutch.

That is how you win playoff games.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Oct 17, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Any time you rebound

within the game to change what is not working into what is working, you’ve got to give credit and hope the good outweighs the bad. In this case, he did and it does.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 17, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good write-up Vlad

Needs and deserve Front Page visibility.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 17, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably should put Joe’s 1st, 3rd and 4th quarters in The Good. That opening drive was a ting of beauty. 7/8 on a 97 yard drive for a TD. His 2nd half was great. Drove us down field with some huge throws, didn’t turn the ball over.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Ed Reed got toasted like a moth on a flood light. My man needs to keep to play HIS position.

by raven on Oct 17, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

That was pollard that Fucker up, he know it. Which also may be the reason Zbi starts next week.

by Raven_all_day on Oct 17, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pollard hung Reed out to dry on that play

but played lights out the rest of the game and is a much better safety than Zbi, IMHO.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 17, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if anyone else noticed this

but Zbi was on the sideline wearing shades for a reason. He’s having some scary post-concussion symptoms.

by Mayne_Event on Oct 18, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit...

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 19, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was just some dirt on his face…. yea, dirt.

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Oct 19, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Niners fan here

How excited are you guys for the Harbaugh Bowl on Thanksgiving?
Hope we both end up 9-1 for that game

NaVarro Willis = Next Generation of Linebackers

by Grabtree15 on Oct 17, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Going to be insane.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't wait

Just hope i’ll be able to watch it! I’ll be in florida and don’t know if nfl network will be available.

by GayleG on Oct 17, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty sure the Thanksgiving game is a network (CBS, NBC, FOX) game every year.

re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs

by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 17, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should be a good game, I’m expecting for us to run away with it though.

by Raven_all_day on Oct 17, 2011 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Harbs Family Thanksgiving will be up there with Christmas On Walton Mountain.

Except Jim Bob breaks his pa’s hand after winning the log sawing event.

by raven on Oct 17, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

the ugly:

3rd down D. the lb’s need to drop deeper into coverage. the texans found the 10-12 yard slots at will. the lb’s should be standing on the first down marker and move foward to attack. that area of the field on 3rd and longs and prevent has hurt us. not sure if we could have kept an eye on andre johnson in this game.

if mario williams was playing flacco would be air lifted to Shock Trauma. that was pathetic.

49 did some things. 49 didn’t do some things. 49’s greatest weapon is his zombi technique-where he stares blankly and slack jawed after every play and then throws shorted moon balls over startled opponents.

Harbs can’t wait to hurt a star. He puts Ngata on the O-line and then calls a play where Ngata has to pull right turning his body parallel to the line as D players barrell foward at his ACL. Soooo unecessary. Also, let get cute and put the ball in Leach’s hands. Not a problem with giving Leach a shot BUT not in a close game where a fumble could lose it.

by raven on Oct 17, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

if mario williams was playing flacco would be air lifted to Shock Trauma. that was pathetic.

Bet you didn’t notice the free blitzers coming at Joe play after play. O-Line was shit yesterday, but you don’t care. Joe should be making every completion with Brian Cushing and JJ Watt coming at his face.

then throws shorted moon balls over startled opponents.

You mean the ones to Boldin and Torrey?

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 17, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read it as the OL was pathetic.

I’m aware it’s raven, but I don’t see how he can blame Joe when no one wants to block.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

but I don’t see how he can blame Joe

I do, he is raven. Everything is Joe’s fault.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is actually Ram since he picked the Rams over the Ravens

let’s call him Ram from now on

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first one was on the Oline. The second one… I’m not really sure who the hell he’s talking about. It seems like Flacco because of the throwing bit, but I’m confused on the 49 number thing.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He likes to refer to Joe by his completion percentage…..which is no longer 49.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 18, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh, I get it now. Its not very creative though and I expect more from Raven on that type of stuff.

Joe’s completion percentage sucks so much because he has been asked to bomb it down the field all season instead of safer, shorter throws with high completion percentage like most other QBs do. I know Raven will never really buy into that, but there are a ton of people out there that believe his percentage stat tells the whole story when that’s just not accurate.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are you talking about..i said the o-line sucked. i only commented on Joe’s David Blane stare and sense of urgency.

by raven on Oct 18, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I get groans whenever I bring it up, but why the hell is Reed back there fielding punts again? I know some guys are injured, but we just signed McCann, and we have other guys that should be able to catch a ball cleanly. Honestly, if McCann or any of our rookie WRs can’t waive his arm and catch the ball, they probably should be fired immediately and replaced with a bucket of water that someone places about 45 yards out from the LOS.

I know that some people will say “he’s just supposed to fair catch it unless he absolutely has a lane to get a TD”… my response is… Where the F was the TD on that play in that case? Hell, how many yards did he get?

I just don’t understand taking a HOF player with injury issues, one in a secondary that can’t get healthy and is undermanned and sticking that guy out on a punt to have someone run into him. Can Harbaugh do a Pro/Con list or do any type of risk management or is he just looking for a spark in a game that we controlled (just not in the score department until later)?

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say it more of Ed Reed wanting to return punts than Harbaugh forcing him out there. I don’t agree with it either, but it is what it is.

by Mayne_Event on Oct 19, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve thought the same thing actually. I know Ed loves getting his hands on the ball, but as a coach, you gotta temper that enthusiasm and keep guys that important as fresh as possible.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

One time Ladarius went back there to return and Ed waved him off. I don’t think it was a coach’s call at all.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate."

by Fandemonium on Oct 19, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harbs can’t wait to hurt a star. He puts Ngata on the O-line and then calls a play where Ngata has to pull right turning his body parallel to the line as D players barrell foward at his ACL

since when does harbaugh call plays on offense

"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore

by jazz20 on Oct 18, 2011 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

He definitely has the authority not to put defenders in on offense. Come on now.

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 18, 2011 8:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah but how raven wrote it it was like he was saying Harbaugh was calling the play on offense.

Harbaugh can say who can go or who can not go but he not the one calling the play for ray rice to run up the middle or Anquan Boldin to run a slant thats either Cam or Flacco(when he audibles)

"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore

by jazz20 on Oct 18, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

demetrius williams could get healthier faster than evans. the ravens need a new fn’ sports therapist. i could get 3/4 of these guys back on the field with an ace bandage and neosporin. WTF.

by raven on Oct 17, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

A case of beer and a bottle of bourbon and you could cure cancer! Liquid intelligence

by Evan Skev on Oct 17, 2011 11:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

1 comment on this entire thread and that’s all you got? Are you getting sick or something, you seem to be off lately….

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to check the website for your business and if it’s not complete, you get your ass off here and go finish it. The Ravens are handling their business…

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks man. I don’t think he realizes that by talking smack about my business he’s awfully close to libel and at the least, he’s just being an ass. The funny thing is, I haven’t made mention of my website, its URL or anything about my business. Whats even funnier, my business name isn’t my username on here, so I have no idea how anyone would know what my company name is unless I tell them straight up.

It used to annoy me to no end, but then I quickly realized that no one takes him seriously if you’ve been here for more than a day. Though if the business bashing doesn’t stop, I’ll have to force it to stop through whatever measures I can (including calling his mom and having his power cord taken away for a few weeks grounding). Any bad press could possibly send myself and numerous others I employ to the unemployment line and I don’t take kindly to that in any way.

But thanks again for the support.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

call your own mom, kid… you ribbed me and i hit you back… why act butthurt?

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep I did rib you a little bit. But why do you have to take it to extremes like that? Why do you only make comments that bash fellow Raven fans and nothing on football itself or the team? When Steeler fans hate you, you’re probably unlikable.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

don’t get butthurt if you get ribbed back…

I don’t care whether you like me or not… and I think you meant Ravens fans…

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you meant to capitalize D in Don’t. You have nothing else to get me on without straight up lies or Yo Momma jokes, so now you’re going to be a grammar nazi in a blog?

I can take ribbing and normally I let you be yourself. When you come out of nowhere and bash people’s personal lives, you are being a bully. Since you are a bully online it leads me to believe that you have no life and you were bullied as a kid. Bash people’s thoughts and opinions with reasoning, not with petty, childish, passive aggressive behavior like calling Raven a drunk. There is absolutely no room for that in society and within Ravens fans.

So seriously, give me your best shot. Just leave how I support my family and employees out of it and I’m all good. I’ll even give you source material… I’m a ginger! :)

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

DONT RESPOND TO EVAN HE LOVES ATTENTION, DONT RESPOND TO EVAN HE'S ONLY FIVE YEARS OLD AND IS JUST UPSET BECAUSE THERE ISNT A NEW EPISODE OF DORA THE EXPLORER ALSO BOB THE BUILDER

lol ok maybe i went overboard but for real just dont pay evan any mind and he will go away

"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore

by jazz20 on Oct 18, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the helly-poo? this is about troy smith, isn’t it

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i’m not being a jerk… mstev deserves whatever grief i give him for calling me a douche/asshole/loser in the past when we’re arguing about football…

and vlad should mind his own business since he doesn’t know the history. damn.

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flago’d

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We’ve never argued about football you moron. That time you are talking about, I was defending another person that you viciously attacked without any provocation and I acted on your level with 1 line little temper tantrums. YOU NEVER DISCUSS FOOTBALL EVER. Look at every post you have on this thread… go on seriously look, I’ll even wait for you……

OK, now that you have looked back at every post you’ve made, can you see that everything is 1 line, about someone else on this site, moronic, and just plain insulting with absolutely no discussion on the merits of one’s opinions? Can you see that not only does no one want you around here, they are getting increasingly vocal about it?

No one needs to know our history Evan because we don’t have one. The only history here is that you make these childish comments because no one can physically wrap their hands around your neck like they would in real life. However, when messing with my business and how I pay my bills/my employee’s bills you cross a line that I don’t appreciate. Call my momma fat, diss me personally and I’ll ignore you, but bashing how I make a living and provide for those around me is beyond being an ignorant, moronic, immature, dorky, loser, douche…. its steps into libelous territory which you should know is very frowned upon.

The simple fact is, we all know what and who you are. You are a lonely little man with no family that still speaks to you. You are a little balding fat man that in every other part of his life is made fun of and put down and so you grow some keyboard balls and step up like you’re so intelligent and everything you say has merit regardless of the drivel that comes out. So in all seriousness, STFU and buckle up your helmet to get on the short bus back to the center before they notice you’ve gone to the library again.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re the moron

you get personal with people and then you act butthurt when they hit you back…

grow up

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT!? OK I’ll go ahead and quote all the things you’ve said on this thread before this conversation…..

A case of beer and a bottle of bourbon and you could cure cancer! Liquid intelligence

by Evan Skev on Oct 17, 2011 8:16 PM PDT

All the other things to discuss and you only make a comment vaguely calling Raven an alcoholic. I could go through every other thread on here and find the same exact thing… 1 liners with absolutely no ties to football in any way. You are the definition of a troll and in my eyes, are no better than the trolling Pitt fans that like to come on here and say stupid stuff with no accountability.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

when have i ever been vague about calling ram an alcoholic?

as for your site, it’s great advice I gave you… use it. and dont act butthurt if you pick a fight with someone and they hit you where it hurts…

as for anyone who chooses to like or dislike me based on these conversations, im sure you can surmise how i feel about your decision…

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re a joke Evan. People have chosen to dislike you based on every conversation you’ve ever had on here. If you start treating everyone with respect, you’ll get it back. Until you do and until you learn how to behave, people like me will continue to call you on your behavior. Its just a shame that it will take so long to get it through to you and it will inconvenience others in the process, but I will get you to act like a sane human being eventually.

Until then… stay classy Evan!

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

people can choose to jump off bridges, keep thieves in public office, support foreign wars, do drugs and drink alcohol, and engage in pointless arguments regarding value judgments of people we are unlikely to ever actually meet or know

i choose to tease you because you get so annoyed and make idle threats about libel lawsuits and get yourself twisted in knots… i will stop doing it when lardarius gains 20 pounds so he can play safety and jared gaither starts eating, exercising, and hydrating like a professional athlete.

it’s fun, matt… it’s entertainment… stop taking it so seriously

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not actually pissed at all. I find most of what you say to be funny because its so ridiculous and sad. I do take issue with anyone that does say something libelous about my company and I don’t find that funny. There are laws in place against that exact type of thing, so I’m definitely not in the wrong for getting annoyed at that. Again, my company supports my family and the families of a few others. Take away 1 client that just so happens to see this and not know how big of an ass you are and some of my employees could be out of a job. That is why libelous statements about how I conduct my business, my website and anything else about my business is such a bad thing and why I view it with the disdain I do.

But we aren’t talking about suicide, or politics, or the war on drugs. We are talking about how you go out of your way to hunt people down on this site and taunt them through increasingly ignorant and straight up mean statements. As a matter of fact, you never actually discuss anything relating to the Ravens or football in general. At your best, you make 1 liners about how you agree with someone else’s thoughts but never bringing up your own original thoughts or opinions. You add nothing to this site, to the Ravens community and I’m guessing here, but nothing to anyone else’ life either.

There is a reason that no one on this site likes you and why no one stands up for you in any way. That is the reason that people rec my posts in our discussions and why people flag yours. If you acted with some respect and stopped acting like a fool, people would gladly listen to your thoughts and value you as a member of this community. Until you do that though, you are no better than any Steeler troll on the site and you are viewed in the same exact way.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i choose to tease you because you get so annoyed and make idle threats about libel lawsuits and get yourself twisted in knots

Well design based on evans statement above it seems he is telling you why he post the way he does. If you ignore him he will stop and if he doesnt well I still suggest you ignore him.

"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore

by jazz20 on Oct 19, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he isnt Jazz. You do realize that you ignore him and he still calls you Jazzy-poo. You do realize that I have ignored him for a few weeks and he followed me around the site to comment on every post I made with his usual comments.

Think back to the 3rd grade or so. Remember that kid that liked to call you names and tease you? That is Evan now and he probably was the kid teased throughout school and it got to him. Remember that when you ignored him, it only got worse and worse until it eventually caused other problems with other friends or teachers or whatever else in your life?

If you let Evan get away with stuff like this, it will only get worse and it only shows him that no one will stand up to him. Just like in the school yard, if you stand up for yourself a bit with him, he will eventually get it. Unlike the school yard, you can’t pop him in the nose and let everyone watch him cry and run away.

It gets to him that you outwit him… it gets to him that you knock him down a peg for everyone to see. And eventually, he’ll act like a civilized person and calm himself down or he’ll leave.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

matt stevens, you are putting too much effort into this when you could be finishing your work website.

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey I’m just causing you to stop abusing yourself and wasting lotion/tissues. I find that funny to know when I comment.

It also doesn’t take me long to write those responses… I type pretty fast

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you think you’re causing anything or affecting anything besides making me chuckle

come on…

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I know you get steaming mad sometimes. I can picture you slumping in your chair getting all red in the cheeks and in your bald spot. Your cat runs away from the back of your chair in your otherwise empty and dark studio apartment.

I find it funny though. Keep on trolling buddy!

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

matt, you are weird.

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evan, you are a sad lonely man

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

No he isnt Jazz. You do realize that you ignore him and he still calls you Jazzy-poo.

 i honestly still dont pay him any mind im a grown man . I told Evan already that i didnt appreciate him calling me that name but he continues to do so . I honestly can’t do nothing about it and I have much more important things to worry about than some man/boy I barely know calling me a name .

Evans has his ways jerk ways and you know that he most likely going to stay like that. It nothing you can do about and I gurantee if people stop giving him the attention he trys to get then he will stop or go away.

"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore

by jazz20 on Oct 19, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flagg’d again. How many does it take for the auto ban to kick in?

re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs

by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Bruce won’t do it – but according to MaLor, there is an SB auto ban that kicks in if the person gets enough flags. I just don’t know how many is enough…

re: Big Ben - "God can have his soul. His ass is mine." - Terrell Suggs

by GrumpyOldBird on Oct 19, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is true.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 19, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

go flag yourselves!! ;)

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many do we need? And is it only good on 1 post or that person in general?

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

More time you flag, the more times Bruce sees it.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking about the autoban. I really don’t care if he gets banned or not, just that he acts with some respect.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

matt stevens, you don’t even respect yourself… much less me

get on with your bad self… and i mean bad not bad

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn’t even good. I must have gotten to you if that is the best you got. I even gave you the ginger thing and you haven’t used it yet…. shame shame

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t read most of what you write

libel litigation was a nice touch though… and wondering how i found your name and website gave me a chuckle

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I know you have no idea my company url. It seriously didn’t get a minutes thought on that.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

wearemercurystudios.com

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow man, you must have done some research on that one then. Now I know I get to you if you have to search me out like that.

Thanks for the free plug man. On that note, if anyone needs any screen printing, graphic design or website design feel free to hit me up. I’ll give all the beatdown members excellent deals!

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The search took .38 seconds

Now finish the website so it looks pro before your market it to potential clients

by Evan Skev on Oct 20, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This has descended so far… it makes all of us look bad.

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 20, 2011 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

we need a “final word” like jerry springer used to do

go for it, jackmca

by Evan Skev on Oct 20, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a little sad no one picked up on the reference,

but I did bungle it a bit.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Oct 19, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

give it another shot and i will “lol”

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s really none of your business, vladdy… let him pick his own fights and take the consequences…

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

what consequences? please, enlighten us.

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

jackie, are you playing devil’s advocate via internet

aren’t there pushups to be done or floors to be swept

by Evan Skev on Oct 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure we’re all on the internet here bud.

I suppose the consequences entail getting endlessly trolled?

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 20, 2011 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Devils ad vía internet..little diff

Consequences include circular reasoning, name-calling, and general prepubescent behavior by Matt Stevens… The freshmaker

by Evan Skev on Oct 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Evan, I only call you names that you deserve and have shown your ability to match the description. I wouldn’t call Jackmca fat because he isn’t. Now if he was 5’9" and 260, he’d be called fat in a discussion about weight.

I call you names like asshole, douche, moron, idiot, etc because you act like those things. If you don’t like being called those things, then stop acting like that and those names will disappear. If you look at any debate I have with anyone else, you will notice a lack of namecalling. I don’t call anyone else names because they have kept a certain amount of respect through not being any of those things and being a civilized human being.

So again, to underline my point to you…. stop being a little baby with a temper tantrum and you will not be treated like one.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You gotta let it go dude, because obviously he wont

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 21, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Libel lawsuit…or is it slander… Too much fun for one thread

by Evan Skev on Oct 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I probably should. I’m pretty damn stubborn, but you are right. Regardless of how bad he is losing and how bad he is looking, he just won’t unlock those jaws and let it go.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 21, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be careful… All of this is admissible in court during your libel lawsuit

by Evan Skev on Oct 22, 2011 9:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

“even I”

a little full of ourselves?

by Evan Skev on Oct 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've pissed off Vlad.

I’ve never seen this before. I would stop before something scary happens.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i laughed
And who crowned you Rex Regis Maximus in judgement of MsD’s website?

I crown vlad755 “Rex Regis Maximus” of the Beatdown. Apart from “Rexx” of course… he’s the actual king still…

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is aggravating to hear “Evans is running around out there” to only see the players out on gameday. But its a nasty injury that has a tendency to flare back up with very little notice. Just a shame really because its looking like a Stallworth situation with him. The guy will only get like 7 games in and he won’t have a rhythm with Joe and won’t do anything all season because of it.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every player is different. People were thinking Torrey was DHB before the Rams game. Evans is going to surprise if he gets healthy.

/crossing my fingers he doesn’t need surgery

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I’m not saying that Evans isnt a game changer and he won’t succeed when he gets put in. But having him miss half the year with an ankle injury definitely hurts when we expected him to be an important part of the offense. The same thing really happened with Stallworth as well in terms of coming back from an injury half way into the season and just not being able to find his groove and just getting dismissed this offseason. I’d hate to think something like that could happen to Evans as well and its a strong possibility unless he starts seeing some playing time.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won us the game against Pitt without even touching the ball, so he’s already outperformed Stallworth.

by Mayne_Event on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

flacco did okay with that crappy o-line. the free shots on him were a joke. but, he’s still Napolean Dynamite’s NJ cousin. i liked how cam finally went deep to clear all the pressure. a little late but at least he figured it out….with some poor Texan DB play.

by raven on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

In the past few games, Cam either goes deep on every play or never at all. I do agree it was nice to see him go deep a few times in the game and then play off that with underneath stuff and quick passes to catch the Texans off guard.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

cam STILL goes deep once we get to the opponents 30. we move the ball nicely and then as soon as he see’s the end zone he can’t wait to chuck it up..next thing you know it’s 2 and 10, momentums gone and then he runs rice leaving us in the always impossible 3rd and long….enter kicker.

by raven on Oct 18, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

True Story

starring Leonardo DiCaprio as Cam Cameron…

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 19, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d watch that! Sounds like a blockbuster to me.

*Announcer Voice
Leonardo DiCaprio stars as Cam Cameron in “The most predictable OC in the world”…. I don’t always call the wrong plays, but when I do I choose runs on 3rd and 7.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other possible title names:

Cam Cameron : The End Around
Audibles Are Overated
The opposite of 15-1

The writer formerly known as This White Man Can Jump; Powah Stached; Bear Killer; Da Dude; The Other Bambino; TJ Dropped The Season; Harbaugh Is My Co-Pilot; Billick's Alter Ego; Mr. Poopy Pants.

by El.Dude on Oct 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was Going

To pick a favorite, but that is just too difficult. All three of these would be destined to be classics.

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Oct 19, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awww…. This seems like it could make a hell of a contest around here.

Cam Cameron: The story of mediocrity
Cam Cameron: 3 and out
Cam Cameron: The 1 year blunder
3rd and 15: The Cam Cameron Story

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd and 15: The Cam Cameron Story

Awesome.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel

by Ampallang on Oct 19, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you sir. I was really happy with that one.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Fade to Mediocrity
Audibles: “Don’t throw your life away”

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 19, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh that’s a good one Malor. If we combine that with mine…

3rd and 15: The Cam Cameron Story
Tagline: The fade to mediocrity is often hard to complete. Even harder for 1 man in a tough game

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got to get in on this - all movie references

“The First Down Too Far”

“An End Around Runs Through It”

“The Last of the First Downs”

“50 Pass Plays”

by DT711 on Oct 20, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

"An End Around Runs Through It"

Excellent.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

State your case, back it up with facts and reasonable opinions ...
Bruce Raffel

by Ampallang on Oct 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Slants across the world”

Cam Cameron “The Red Headed Mercenary”

“Snap Your Fingers, Not The Ball”: A Play Clock Story.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Oct 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

There are so many possibilties

by DT711 on Oct 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

bet its a sign of distrust with flacco being able to throw when the field gets small. rarely do we see flacco throwing balls on a line in the red zone. he either throws high to the back of the end zone or a fade route. the great ones fire it in with authority. our ered zone % stinks for a playoff contender….but, ya know what, at least the D comes out of the tunnel next home game. better than the game.

by raven on Oct 18, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Well we never really get a chance to see Flacco try those types of passes unfortunately. But you are right that it seems like Cam doesn’t entirely trust Joe in the redzone and we falter a bit in there. But it is pretty common to see most offenses go conservative down there except the truly great QBs like Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mstevens_Design

Beat me to it, but you are right Raven- where is the 15 yard slant to the TE or Boldin when we are inside the 30?

Or how about a come back route right at the goal-line?

"A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring."
"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."
"God's whiskers! Your face is as hideous as the demon's in my storybook!"
"I never expected to see the day when girls would get sunburned in the places they do today."
"It's big for a reason."

For Pittsburgh fans, that's Pope, Twain, Rostand, Rogers and Megamind

by vlad755 on Oct 18, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is unprecedented, but I’m agreeing with you for the second time in a week.

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 19, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much every QB on the top 10 teams zip it around in the red zone. we go rice or throw high and away..but rather that than a pick going the other way. what i like about flacco is that he’s unpredictable. a game like sundays could have been a loss with a steady eddie but joes loopy enough to heave a few 50 yard jump balls and go on a rare 8-10 drive to help win it.

by raven on Oct 18, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

the top 10 offenses you mean? That conservative attitude might be why we aren’t a top 10 offense.

Joe is actually on the mark under pressure. If players hadnt dropped balls last year, we would have beaten solid teams at the end with long drives and it would be a totally different story with Joe. He’s shown the ability to do it before bu there are always some other factors that kill those drives.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

cant argue with 4-1 first place. to many variables but he’s the qb. the target. the o-line play is alarming and harbs never solved it.

by raven on Oct 18, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The Oline has some troubles, but I think its going in the right direction. Keep in mind that half of the line is new, so there will be some growing pains there.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raven gets a bad rap sometimes because he is sarcastic and has thoughts that are against the grain from other Ravens fans. To think that Raven wants or thinks the team is going in the wrong direction is a little absurd. A few people like to jump on him a bit about it, but I think he just zooms in on Flacco’s issues instead of what he does right and how much goes into the QB position to make the QB look good.

Lets not jump on the bandwagon and start assuming how people feel until they come out and say it. Some other people do that type of stuff on here and its not fair to anyone involved.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was kinda joking but sometimes ravens can seem to be negative and he can say things that really do make sense.

I have no problem with his statements and honestly dont know what he really thinks about the team but i do know he’s a ravens fan so he must love the team :) lol

"if you really want to know what people think about you listen to their jokes" -N.Moore

by jazz20 on Oct 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, just on edge recently Jazz.

by Mstevens_Design on Oct 19, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

If raven isn't upset with the team

then you KNOW we’re good.

Obstacles are the things you see when you take your eyes off your goals.

by jackmca on Oct 19, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

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