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Pro Bowl 'Open Thread'

Join Baltimore Beatdown for a game time 'Open Thread' to post your thoughts and comments on the NFL's All-Star game, being played in Honolulu, Hawaii. Unfortunately, the Baltimore Ravens and their fans would prefer not to be seeing their players in this game, as they would rather be preparing for the Super Bowl next week. However, that was not to be, so enjoy the game and for the final time this season...Go Ravens!!!

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Pro Bowl Touchbacks/Kickoffs = 1/1

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

But Hester

ran it out, so t doesn’t count as a TB.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Pft

that ball was 9.5 yards deep. It was a TB.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Strange that I understand

“pfft!” Anywhere else other than the ro Bowl, it would have. But not here. No way. Hope he gets the chance at a real long FG, as it would be nce to see his long distance.

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by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

And it was actually better than a TB,

NFC starting at the 10 instead of the 20.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw recently that tom brady decline to enter the pro bowl becuase of a injury

and his replacement is Matt Cassel I thought that was weird becuase I thought atleast they would take Joe Flacco I think he has a better year then Matt Cassel

by jazz20 on Jan 30, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

Joe and Cassel had basically the same stats. But Cassel’s int total was lower. He also got the nod over Joe because he isn’t ugly.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

but he played less games (Cassel)

due to injury, but was Brady’s backup and makes $17 mil a year, so that equals Pro Bowl over Joe. Besides, Joe had to stay in Baltimore for the Polar Bear Plunge and said, “no thanks, my mom would be upset with me if I back out of a charitable event for the Pro Bowl.”

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Should we bring in a veteran corner through free agency or are we good?

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 8:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think bringing in one would be good like Champ Bailey or Asoguma ( I forgot how to spell his name)

but I think we are fine if we just resign Wilson and Carr becuase they would be cheaper/younger

by jazz20 on Jan 30, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If Nnamdi would take a pay cut

for a longer term contract, I’d sign him and have the next “C-Mac” Pro Bowler here.

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by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Um, we might have a HOF if we get Nnamdi. But man, that is just too much to ask. Signing him and Ngata would mean we are letting alottttt of other guys walk. Is he really worth losing some of our other good players for him? Ehhhh, I am 50-50 on the situation.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Mcgahee would be gone, tell mason to hang em up. Maybe that would make some room.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

All for it.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Stats don’t matter for corners. In fact its almost good if they don’t have alot of INT’s. Because it means QBs don’t want to throw their way.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say stats don't matter,

just find the right stats. INTs and tackles aren’t good ways to measure good corners. Times targeted and completion percentage are better. Per wiki (and it’s uncited so don’t take it as fact), Nnamdi was thrown at 27 times this year. He gave up 10 completions. There are also claims around the internet that he often plays without safety help, which I imagine are pretty true (but I have no evidence of).

So imagine this: Nnamdi on one side, a corner that no one wants to throw toward (only targeted 28 times in ‘09 as well). That leaves the defense with Fox, Carr and Wilson as the next 3 corners. Even if Fox doesn’t recover completely, put Wilson on the outside, put Carr as the nickelback.

If you don’t give Nnamdi safety help, that leaves Ed to shadow the WRs on the other side of the field. Who would you throw to? Or would you not throw? If Cody can step up, and the dline of Suggs, Ngata, Cody, Redding/rotation can stop the run…

Let’s just say that if Nnamdi ends up in purple I think the defense will look a lot more like it did in 2000 than any other year. (This statement would be true to a lesser extent if Champ signs here instead).

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true. BUt for the price it would cost to sign Nnamdi, We could sign Bailey to a lesser contract, AND resign Ngata and others

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Mcgahee would be gone, tell mason to hang em up. Maybe that would make some room.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 8:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Champ Bailey. It makes too much sense. I really think Ozzie pays for him.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh of course. Signing Champ is just a short term decision to help us yet again get over that hump to get a Superbowl very soon. But he is definitely going to be cheaper than Nnamdi.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Rod Woodson 2.0? o.0

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds about right.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Champ, I just feel as if Nnamdi would be better long term. But we can’t afford his services, so its kind of a catch 22

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course Nnamdi would be better long term, he is much younger than Champ is.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think Webb has good potential. Wilson was a steal from seattle. I’m not too fond of Carr but he was decent.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 8:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Carr was our best CB up until the last few games when Wilson turned it on. I think we are damn good at CB right now with Foxy, Wilson, Carr, Webb. Get rid of Fabian and draft a mid-late round guy to replace him. I can’t wait to see Cary Williams get a chance also, because we see his potential on Special Teams where he makes crazy plays all the time.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilson still gets burned deep and

also was pushed around by stronger CB’s (Roddy White, etc.). Webb regressed to the point that opponents targeted him when he was in games. I liked everything I saw from Cary Williams and certainly thought he should be ahead of Fabian on the depth chart but other than ST, Williams couldn’t get on the field.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

some people have been saying that Cary Williams will fit best as a safety but if

we do draft a cornerback and keepp Wilson and Carr it wont be enough room for him at the cornerback position

by jazz20 on Jan 30, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Cary has some potential also but will he really get a chance to play corner or are they limiting his contributions to only special teams.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 8:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I also like our corners more than most people do. I just think we are missing that one corner who is bigger and physical that can match up with the bigger WR that seem to give us problems.

by AV23 on Jan 30, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a reason why there is only about 8 of those types of CB’s in this league….if that. Tough to find another C-Mac.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Pagano should open up a position battle at the corner position, so we know exactly who gives us the best chance of winning.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I still believe Foxworth is the #1.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to see

how he comes back from injury. Although from what I read, he was upset that he was put on IR, as he thought he could’ve played once the playoffs rolled around. If so, I’d probably agree with you. Hopefully, Wilson can give him a run for his money.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Winner's share is $45K

Losers is $22.5. Chump change but they pay you in singles so you can keep it in the Hawaiian economy, albeit at the strip joints!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Poor guys only get $22.5 thousand for losing. I feel bad for them.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget the free trip

and the per diem for meals, etc.

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by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Billick

was acting like they had to pay for their hotels and such.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Zzzzzzz.....

Can’t wait for Showtime’s Californication and then Shameless (<—great new series on Showtime).

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

While NFC has Fitz, Calvin, Roddy. Lol.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch

That was a low blow. But now we will improve by leaps and bounds now that Cam has total control of the offense, including Joe!

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by Bruce Raffel on Jan 30, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We better or Lewis will have a ring a nd reed won’t.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 8:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So Flacco will learn how to shart on a game plan half way through the game?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So how about that Leonard Hankerson?

Would look pretty good in purple huh? Love my “U” Alumni.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Might have to watch more tape on him but Greg Little from UNC gets my vote.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Leonard had a better Collegiate career than Michael Irvin and Andre Johnson. He leads the “u” in almost every relevant receiving stat. Leo> Little

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

He might be better on the stat sheet but so did Matt leinart, jamarcus Russell, Kyle boller, etc. But your right stat wise he is amazing.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No but leo isnt a QB?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, we aren’t talking about QB’s here man.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What about all the reciever that Detroit drafted before Calvin johnson.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Its not like we would be selecting him #3 overall

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, we are talking right now of a 2nd maybe ever 3rd round pick. This is a conversation for AJ Green….who I think is going to be a bust.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm… Why is that?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy attitude, gonna go to a shitty team, all about himself. He has the skill set to be great, it is just a matter of if he wants to. I have been more impressed with alot of other WR in the past that have a chance to be a top 5 pick than I have Green. I think Julio Jones is going to be a better player.

Plus he has a chance of going to a shitty team with poor QB play. Carolina, Buffalo, Cinci, Cleveland are all viable options right now and those teams don’t have much going for them as far as QB play to breed along with Green. Clausen is a bum, I like Fitzpatrick, but I doubt they keep him, Palmer is the most overrated QB in NFL history and while I do like McCoy, he doesn’t have the arm to take advantage of a guy like Green in my opinion.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think He will land with denver. But actually agree with everything else you said. But i think Clausen could be good if he had a line. Remember, I live in SC so I’ve had plaenty of time to evaluate their crappy team.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Denver has Lloyd and Thomas, they are set for a while. Ask any Broncos fan and they will call you crazy if you don’t think they need to go defense with their first pick. They have Patrick Peterson written all over their pick.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well i based that mostly off of the sexy in a jersey appeal. But this is the same team that drafted Tebow in the 1st.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Tebow is going to be a great QB, you watch.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Mmhmmm… we’ll see.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Charles Rodgers. He was a bust. What is your point?

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don’t think Leo will be a bust. Actually I’m fairly confident he has the ability to be one of the better WRs in the league in about 3 years.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I don’t either. I really like what I have seen from him and it would be a great pick for us.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If we drafted him our Wrs could possibly be:
1.Boldin
2.Hankerson
3.Mason
4.Stallworth/Hardy/Another wr In FA/ or another wr in draft (Titus Young)
I like this depth actually.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a good group.+ David Reed.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s right! how could I forget about ma boi?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter what round he is taken, my point is stats don’t mean shit its how u perform on the field. Greg little’s highlight tape was very impressive.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I like Little, but Hankerson obviously performs well on the field or else he wouldn’t have those stats. He is an extremely physical guy, who is a very reliable target. I watched him play for like his whole career, and he is just such an impressive WR who IMO is going to be a great WR in the NFL.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets not forget about Torrey Smith now. I know first hand just how good this guy is. Him in the first round isn’t a bad idea either. By far the fastest WR in this draft and how could we not love a fellow Terp?

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets just draft Torrey, Leo, and titus. WTH? right? i love all of them and would rather not choose. But seriously, mad respect for Torrey, the guy is a speed-demon who is VERY athletic. I saw that one diving catch in your bowl game. It was pretty epic. I’ve been in love ever since. lol

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if its little or Hankerson I would be excited.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As of right now, my wish list at WR in the draft goes like this.

1. Julio Jones
2. Torrey Smith
3. Hankerson/Young
4. Jon Baldwin

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, can we just do a clean sweep except for Boldin and draft all of them? lol what do we have to lose?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If Hankerson is so great why is he going in the second or third?

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Alot of other talent in the draft, going under the radar, plenty of reasons. Just you watch, he will be great.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Aight cmon April.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

IKR? we have to worry about the CBA before anything else though.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He wasn’t on the flashy team like Jones and Green were.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine how good he would’ve been if he didnt have ’ol noodle arm throwing to him.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Harris wasn’t THAT bad, but he also wasn’t the best. Hankerson needs an accurate QB and Harris just isn’t that.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he was good up until this season imo. But could you imagine if he wouldve went to a team like Stanford with Luck, Or Oklahoma when Bradford was there? Gosh thats just tooo epic to think of.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Or a team like Baltimore with Flacco there?

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I guess he’s ok. (Sarcasm detector go off any?)

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, he looks great right now. Ive been following him for a long time and it is incredible that he has better stats across the board than Irvin and Andre had while at Miami. If he tears it up in the combine, it might not be a bad idea to use a first on him.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s amazing how he’s been flying under the radar with those kind of career stats. He’s a great route runner and has pretty good speed for his size. Honestly he reminds me a lot of a younger Q.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No way is he like Anquan. Boldin is barely 6’1 while Hankerson is pushing 6’4" almost. They are completely different in my opinion. I have said the same about Julio Jones, but Hankerson has also always reminded me of a Terrell Owens type player. They have very similar builds and running styles. I think he will turn into a TO (without the mental shit) more than he will Q.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well maybe not completely different. Both have the ability to make to make athletic catches, and both are very good route-runners

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn’t the best at getting out in and out of his cuts, but he is at his best down the field. Still need to learn not to catch with his body, which he has done far too often.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true. If you give him a step on the corner, he has the ability to burn you, which is mostly due to his size more-so than his speed.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hankerson would be great on this team. I heard Miami’s MLB had a pretty good game as well. Haven’t got a chance to watch him, but what’s your opinion on him?

by AV23 on Jan 30, 2011 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

ZOMG I love Colin McCarthy. But then Again I’m a little biased…

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He is alright. Insane tackler, not the best in pass coverage though but most white ILB never are. He probably could have come out as a junior and gotten drafted. He wouldn’t be a bad 3-4 round pick.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I would Jizz my pants if we ended up with two Miami Players this year. I also like Marylands MLB.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I was talking to Alex Wujciak last night at the bar. Told him he needs to come to Baltimore, he agreed.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you serious?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. It was pretty cool.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I could “just talk to players” down in Myrtle Beach. I did get a chance to meet Malcolm Grant in Clemson about a month ago. My sister works at the Hotel where the "U"s basketballl team players stay

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s time we look for Lewis’s replacement and give him some time to learn under Ray, so I was just wondering if you thought he would fit in here.

by AV23 on Jan 30, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind getting Titus Young and his teammate Austin Pettis. Honestly at this point, I am fine with Mason, Donte and Housh all are not back with us next year.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Titus Young is going to be a impact player for any team, just hope its with us.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

agreed I think it’s time to rebuild the WR core and I would like to see Reed get in the mix a little bit. He is a playmaker and would like to see him get his shot.

by AV23 on Jan 30, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to see Boldin as the primary guy.

Now that doesn’t mean I will have a problem bringing back Housh or if Mason decides to stay one more year, but we need youth and need it now. Youth brings speed and speed kills in this league, especially at WR. Look at what Pitt did to us, they had 2 rookies basically win them games against us with their big plays.

But it would be nice to have Boldin and Reed, maybe sign a young FA and draft a guy. There are some decent FA out there this year other than the studs.

Early Doucet (ARZ)
Brian Finneran (ATL)
Donte’ Stallworth (BAL)
TJ Houshmandzadeh (BAL)
Rashied Davis (CHI)
Devin Aromashadu (CHI)
Chansi Stuckey (CLE)
Sam Hurd (DAL)
Jacoby Jones (HOU)
Mike Sims-Walker (JAC)
Kevin Curtis (MIA)
Hank Baskett (MIN)
Greg Lewis (MIN)
Lance Moore (NO)
Courtney Roby (NO)
Derek Hagan (NYG)
Darius Reynaud (NYG)
Brad Smith (NYJ)
Johnnie Lee Higgins (OAK)
Legedu Naanee (SD)
Ben Obomanu (SEA)
Laurent Robinson (STL)
Danny Amendola (STL)
Mark Clayton (STL)
Maurice Stovall (TB)
Santana Moss (WAS)

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Higgins is fast as shit but a lil injury prone.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mike Sims-Walker (JAC)
My favorite WR coming into FA. very speedy guy.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Jacoby Jones.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah he’s fast. But short as crap. lol. I like Oaklands Jones from Clemson. Now that guy is a beast

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Jacoby Jones is short? He is 6’3". You are thinking of Jacoby Ford on Oakland, who is about 5’9"

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Argh…. Brain shart. Its been a long day Brian. But yeah, I like both.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t imagine that jacksonville will let him go but he would be a good pick up as well.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because that would make suuuuuuch an impact on our offense wouldn’t it?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea it would. Pettis is a monster. Maybe the best hands in this draft next to AJ Green.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I was talking about the TJ part. IK pettis is good, I was just being sarcastic. lol

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Having speed at reciever will do wonders. Imaging having titus young boldin and Stallworth on the field against the steelers, I don’t think Polamalu will be in the box blitzing. It is very important to get speed on the field for us.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 9:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yup, we were beaten by NE, Pitt and especially ATL because they were faster than us.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Well we were beaten by atlanta because of a no-call offensive PI. But yeah we need some zippy guys.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, no we weren’t. We were beaten when we allowed them to have a 21-0 lead on us.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well still that pklay broke any momentum we had built up to take the game.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I have seen alot of people talking about wideouts young and Hankerson

but dont sleep on Jerrel Jernigan and Dwanye Harris if we draft them they look like they be a big impact to this team Jerrel Jernigan reminds me of Santonio Holmes but faster and Dwanye harris is like anquan boldin very physical and fast

by jazz20 on Jan 30, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

The Pro Bowl kicker David Akers just missed a field goal…..nice.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly,

I’m surprised he’s there with what’s going on with his daughter.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well think of it this way. If you had cancer, would you want to stay in cold and damp Philly for the rest of your days, or take a nice vacation to Hawaii?

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd want my cancer cured.

And I’d probably want to spend time with the people I cared about.

I was also operating with incorrect data. Didn’t know his daughter had already had surgery, and they believe that the cancer is gone. So, I imagine that $22.5-45k could go to doctor’s and hospital bills.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Jan 30, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

All of this being said

I think Leo and Julio Jones are the Most pro-ready Wrs going into the draft. Not taking a shot at Green, Torrey Smith, or any other WRs, I just think they will take longer to adjust to the nfl.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

This is important

Of course we won’t know until April which players are pro-ready, but its going to really affect the draft. Might put a guy like Leo high in the draft. Playoff ready teams aren’t going to reach high for players in the draft that aren’t pro-ready unless the CBA is worked out (doubtful). Would suck drafting a bunch of projects with no OTAs or a shortened training camp. Look what project drafts got the Ravens this year. Even with OTAs and Training Camp the only rookies to make the field consistently were Reed and Dickson. And they were on ST most of the time.

by erniesto on Jan 30, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The only way we hit the draft for receivers like we all want is if ozzie resigns gaither, and gets a corner in free agency. Or we pick up a extra 2nd round pick because I don’t expect for any of theses guys to be around in the third, except Austin pettus.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think Gaither is back with us next year.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope so. I hate it when Rosenrat is right, but we needed him. I think thats why Gaither got “injured” to prove a point.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He did not fake an injury.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don’t believe that injury was season-ending worthy though.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Explain why. Because all reports I read stated that his back was really messed up. Trust me when I say that Gaither, who wants to be paid big, would not have sat out this year if he were healthy.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I believe you malor.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Malor said Barring a good combine, and what we do with the other WRs, it might be worth it to drop a 1st on Leo.

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by Zachary Beard on Jan 30, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

if we get gaither back, I really like our line

That would allow us to really focus on the WR position and maybe even a CB, then in the third we could draft an extra lineman maybe even a center to replace birk

Just Win Baby !

by sethg28 on Jan 30, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

He is the best OL on our team. We missed him big time this season.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t go as far as saying he is the best OL we have. Last time I checked Grubbs is the pro bowler.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 10:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

All this talk about recievers in the first round....

I think we need a DE more than a reciever in the first, especially with so much reciever talent in free agency.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 10:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Redding and Ngata are good for a while. If you want more QB pressure, which is what I think you are getting at, upgrade Jarrett Johnson’s position.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Redding made some headsup plays this year but he didn’t give much pass rush at all, think he had like three sacks to compliment suggs 11. JJ just had a down year.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But in a 3-4 defense, the DE don’t really have high sack totals because they are getting eaten up by the 5 OL each snap. I thought Redding exceeded the expectations we had for him, especially after just stepping in for Pryce out of no where.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

How much different would this season had been if.....

Gaither, Kindle, and Foxworth was not injured this year. My mouth watered just thinking about it. If these pieces were in place now I wouldn’t mind reaching for julio.

by Raven_all_day on Jan 30, 2011 10:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yea, that is true.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The Gaither stuff really, really hurt us. Just by him being out, it caused 3 position changes across the OL and that is not something you want after playing so well the previous year. Missing him this season really made me believe that he is our all around best OL.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

They also have arguably the best QB in the NFL.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And an appropriate offensive scheme!

by erniesto on Jan 30, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Pittsburgh is an elite franchise, we aren’t. Just goes to tell you how damn good their team is.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

you always bring up these youtube clips about the steelers and yes I agree the refs screwed up there, but that play is not why they are in the superbowl. Every team gets screwed on calls, but it’s the elite teams that gets past them that end up doing big things. That play had nothing to with the steelers beating us and as much as I hate the steelers they deserve to be there. It’s really sad that you think the reason we are not in the superbowl is simply because of the refs and if that is what you think then you clearly haven’t watched our games and are probably not very knowledgeable when it comes to football.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

So you don't think winning the division

and having two weeks off and home field advantage in the playoffs has any factor. Yea I guess you’re right looking back at the way the referees fucked us over in the 06 playoffs against the Colts.

by TheShadow on Jan 31, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not saying those wouldn’t helped us but saying we win that game and go to the superbowl is all speculation. The facts are we did play them and we lost, they were down to there 3rd string LT and we had a 2 td lead going into the half. The refs have nothing to with that. Saying the refs are the reason we are not in the superbowl is idiotic and you obviously did not watch us play this year. Our offense would struggle to get first downs and because of this at times our D looked gas from staying on the field. That is no fault of the refs and it’s pathetic to say the main reason we are not in the superbowl is simply because of the refs.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You're the type of fan

who consider the Steelers elite because they won when the Bills receiver dropped a winning touchdown in overtime, yet will blame the Ravens for not scoring enough points in the Falcons game to compensate for the referees ignoring a blatant offensive pass interference on their winning touchdown pass. The only reason the Ravens weren’t up by 3 touchdowns in the Steelers game is the blown pass interference call against us and not them. How about the bogus holding call on Webb’s touchdown return and holding not called on the Steelers winning touchdown score at the goal line. For penalties not a factor in that game we would of had to score forty points.

by TheShadow on Jan 31, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

No I consider the steelers elite because they are in their 3rd superbowl in the last 6 years. yes that was a PI in the falcons game, but we also were negative 2 in the TO battle. Refs are never ever the sole factor in why a team lost there are always plays that the team did not make. the only time you can say it was soley the refs that lost the game is if a team played a perfect game and lost because of bad calls and I have never seen that happen. I honestly don’t even know why I am still arguing with you because it’s pointless. You clearly don’t have the slightest clue about the ravens or football for that matter and all I have ever heard from you is crying about the refs are the reason we lost every game and that marc bulger should be our QB. Not the most intelligent arguments.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No one here knows why they still argue with this fool.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Shoulda coulda woulda but we didn’t. Get a grip dude.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The refs helped us out plenty this year. Didn’t call the play dead when the Bills TE was obviously stopped of moving forward and Ray stripped the ball. We have gotten away with just as much as our oppenents have this year.

And Marcus Smith did grab jersey in the game on the Webb return. Once I get a chance, I will prove it to you.

You are such a blind fan it is unreal.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

+1
I think that’s why I argue with him because it almost sounds like a joke with some of the stuff he writes.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bills offensive line

was pushing the the pile forward, that’s why the refs didn’t blow the play dead. Even the referee reviewers said that was a questionable call on Marcus Smith. Where does it say you have to play a perfect game where the refs can’t decide the outcome, watch the Steelers/Seahawks super bowl.

by TheShadow on Jan 31, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Your argument sucks…..once again. It is the few fans like you that make our city and fan base look like toothless hill billies who don’t know up from down.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

For someone who says he is a Ravens fan

you just roll over and play dead like an old lazy dog.

by TheShadow on Jan 31, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol, alright bud.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

  • Wouldn’t have helped
  • there- their

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 2:21 AM EST reply actions  

sorry this was for my last comment.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Had some fun at the Pro Bowl today

But I love how this thread has NOTHING to do with the game—hardly shocking given both the quality of the game and the level of Ravens participation. Cundiff didn’t get to kick a single field goal, Ray wasn’t impressive, Suggs’ hands were tied; Ngata’s name was called a few times.

Never watched the Pro Bowl on tv, as I always figured it would be a garbage game, and only worth watching if you could actually be there. Yes—the game is garbage, even worse than I expected, but yes, it is also awesome to see the players live.

This thread makes sense though, I mostly talked draft/free agents with friends while tailgating. There needs to be a more proper forum for this, lots of thoughts on Gaither, secondary, etc. Everyone needs to give up on Aso/Bailey/elite CBs. It just isn’t going to happen. Our front office doesn’t like to give away high draft picks, our cap space will be at a premium in years to come, and we simply don’t have the elite players or the willingness to trade them to get the conversation started.

by dimik on Jan 31, 2011 3:35 AM EST reply actions  

I was actually watching the Terps bball game during the pro bowl.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing going on during that game that’s really worth mentioning and it doesn’t always require high draft picks to get some great players we got a 5th rounder and Q for our 3rd and 4th round draft pick. He didn’t have the numbers we would have liked him to have,but that is not all of his fault. We also have no idea what cap space will be like considering the CBA expired and we have a lot of free agents right now so if the team thought we could get a corner and at a good price I am sure they would consider it and maybe just not re-sign some of the FA or let others go like Willis who has a big contract, but is only a back-up.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 3:58 AM EST reply actions  

With Q as our sole #1 and then a bunch of support players around him, he will be a 75-80 catch WR for sure. My ideal WR setup next year would be this.

1. Anquan
2. Housh
3. Reed
4. Rookie/Hardy

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Got a ton of love for Mason. As of right now, he is the best WR in Ravens history. He did alot with nothing for most of his time here and I respect him for that. But he had the LOWEST yards after the catch in the NFL last season and that doesn’t do much for an offense. We have to let go at some point and I think the time is now.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont really worry about the stats of yac that much most of the time but

it is important. he most had did some if his stats was 800 receiving yards.Mason not that speedy guy thats going to run right pass you thats how he been forever but he is quick and he more of like a trickster when it comes to his route running but I guess since he is 36 and etc its time to go :(

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, Mason was one of the most dangerous WR in the league with the ball in his hands back in the day. He was an elite YAC guy for Tennesse, but he is 36 years old now…..4 years away from 40. It’s reality.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know why, but I really just don’t like housh. I am hoping we can get a nice rookie and hopefully Hardy surprises everyone and looks solid. He could end up being that big receiver we are looking for. Only if we could get holmes, but I am sure the jets will re-sign him. To think we could have got him for only a 5th rounder, talk about a deal.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Holmes is a non factor

if your quarterback can’t see him open or doesn’t have time to find him.

by TheShadow on Jan 31, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Or the refs are making up penalties.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Bulger could find him right?

Editor at Baltimore Beatdown - SB Nation Baltimore Ravens Blog
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by Zachary Beard on Feb 1, 2011 6:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess we'll never know

good thing you guys weren’t coaching the Patriots when Brady was on the bench

by TheShadow on Feb 1, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

So you knew Brady was going to turn into a 3 time Superbowl champion and one of the greatest QB’s of all time?

And he got his chance because Bledsoe got hurt, not because a QB change was needed. You are so fucking dumb it is unbelievable.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 1, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Shh

facts don’t counter his arguments.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Feb 1, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Where was Bulger

last year? I didn’t know he signed a contract after the Rams’ regular season ended…

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Feb 1, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

No, Shadow wanted Troy Smith to start in the playoffs for us.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 1, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So Troy Smith

is the next Tom Brady? I don’t follow his argument in the slightest.

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Feb 1, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And Marc Bulger would have been our next Steve Young. Get with it man.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 1, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn.

And we let Smith go the 49ers for free?

But if Bulger is the next Steve Young (despite the ridiculous discrepancy in age), doesn’t that make Flacco the next Montana (again, despite the ridiculous discrepancy in age)?

You come at the king, you best not miss.

by organizedchaos52 on Feb 1, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe has a bruise on his leg and a sore ankle, he didn’t have his brain swishing around in his head and nearly a broken neck like the 32 year old Bledsoe did. So yes, you are still fucking dumb.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 1, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Jope didn't do jack shit against the Patriots

and did even less in his vain attempt to beat the Colts. Only a fucking dummy like you would want to play an injured quarterback against the Colts.

by TheShadow on Feb 1, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Only a fucking dummy like you would want to play an injured quarterback against the Colts.

I guess the entire fanbase is a fucking dummy, because I will bet you any amount of money that everyone here wanted Joe to start that game against the Colts over Troy. How can you sit there and say that Troy Smith would have led us to victory against Indy. You have no facts to back that up and it is getting quite annoying seeing you throw shit around that you have no basis for stating.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 1, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The one fact I know is

Joe wasn’t the one to lead us to victory. Maybe you can get a job as a yes man to Harbaugh.

by TheShadow on Feb 1, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just done with Mason. Joe needs to let him go and start focusing on Boldin. I like Housh because he knows that Boldin is the man here, Mason doesn’t know that. He is younger, bigger and faster. I want a new WR group, but I also don’t want our #2,3,4 guys to be a 2nd year player, a rookie and someone who has a plastic knee basically. Housh is used to being the #3 now and knows that getting a guy with speed in there at the #2 or slot will kills teams.

The top 4 WR this year are not going to be the same top 4 next year. It obviously was not good enough. Speed kills in this league, and people over 30 years old just don’t have that killer speed. And youth brings speed, which is what we need.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I do agree with you. I like Mason more than housh, but I think taking away Flacco’s safety blanket could help him as far as progression. He no longer will have his guy Mason to look for and hopefully we can start developing some of these young guys because other than WR and C we are really young on offense.

by AV23 on Jan 31, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

if Mason was Flacco saftey blanker this year then he Probably would had have better

stats then Boldin even tho their stats arent that far apart. I think Mason should stay he knows Joe Flacco more then any other wideout that we have and having chemistry with a player is better then just have a some new young talent. Mason doesnt play like he 36 and this is the reason why he got a two year contract, he has been the offense leading receiver for the past what 3 years now. I kinda new some Ravens fans will put him in he needs leaves catagory ever since we got Boldin but I dont think so also what do I know im just a typical ravens fan stateing my opinion :)

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think quarterback having some kind of a safety blanket is a good thing but if you gonna

take Mason out you might as well take Ray Rice out to lol since he dumps the ball out to him alot

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with having a Safety blanket, but at this point it should be Boldin and/or Heap. Mason is good, can still run a hell of a comeback route, but what else does he do for us right now? Like I said above, he had the lowest YAC this year and that hurts our offense. Man, watching guys like Revis, Nnamdi, Champ, and the other good CB’s, it almost looks as if they are going about 75% covering Mason.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Mason has better routes then the comeback I heard he had some injury that was

slowing him down alittle this season and it wasnt his finger it was his hernia . I dont know what Mason going to do this year he might retire I have no control over that. I just would hate to see Flacco this season playing with all the young players we suppose to have and not have that chemistry like he has with Mason like he didnt have with all the other wideouts this season.

I really do think If Mason was 25 people wouldnt have a problem but since he 36 I guess that makes a problem.

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I really do think If Mason was 25 people wouldnt have a problem but since he 36 I guess that makes a problem.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here?

And you mentioned he had an injury last year, hernia? Well that is just more indication that it is time to hang it up. He is having another surgery on his finger this offseason and if he does have a hernia and needs surgery on that, do we really want a 37 year old man next year playing for us?

But, if Mason comes back and the coaches think it is best for our team, I will support it 100%. I am sure he still brings something great to the table like he always has, but I am just starting to question if it is the stuff we want right now as an offense. Bringing Mason back means no Housh, that is for sure.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

he had the hernia problem doing the playoffs and he just got surgery

on it. when I said if Mason was 25 years old people wouldnt have a problem but since he 36 years old people have a problem I meant just that. I can sum it up for you I dont think its about his overall production its about his age and you mention his yac ok its low but he still had 800 receieving yards with seven touchdowns. I know for sure if Derrick Mason was 25 years old with the success he has had now as a Raven you probably wouldnt be saying that you probably say he had a down year but he will get it together.

Since Derrick Mason is not 25 he has to go becuase some ravens fans want to see new blood in the offense which is understandable but I doubt Mason Retires this year he still gives us a best chance to win becuase Boldin cant do it by himself and Joe Flacco has chemistry with him which is good also good when it continue to grow becuase chemistry never stops growing no matter the age

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that he can still be a 60 catch WR, and I know he still has the skill set to do it. Don’t get me wrong with saying I am upset with Mason or anything like that. I love having him here and he is a huge part of our team. But at some point we need to move on and do we want to sit through another off season of wondering if Mason will retire?

He brings a good bit to our possession type of offense, but being passive in this league seems to not work anymore unless your name is Tom Brady. We are going to have to blow the top off the defense if we want a chance at a Superbowl, because it has been that lack of that type of player that is holding this offense back.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand what you are saying and I totally agree with you at a 100 percemt.

We need wideouts that can take the place of Mason once he leaves but right now we need wideouts that can be used perfectly to help aid Bolidn and Mason with their speed which im sure we will address in the draft or we may have the players already like a David Reed,James Hardy,Justin Harper(ok hasnt perform up to his potentials but the ravens are keeping him for some reason), Marcus Smith( he has been used mostly on special teams but I heard sometimes the special team players are the ones that really shine later on)

I dont see the Ravens addressing the wideout postion in the freeagent market unless its Housh/stallworth becuase they will probably be cheaper

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Housh is younger then Mason but isnt he basicly just the same type of

Receiver as him? see when I read your post I dont get that you are focus on his stats I get the feeling you are more focus on his age but if the Ravens decide to let Mason go/Mason decides to retire then that will be fine Im sure we will be fine

by jazz20 on Jan 31, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, don’t we have to focus on his age? With being in your late 30’s comes with losing some of your physical abilities. It isn’t saying he is a weak old man who can’t get it done, it is just saying that a 23 year old guy might bring a little more to this offense as far as being that one player to get us down field in a hurry.

Mason can’t get a huge 20-30 yard catch without a blown coverage or missed tackle. A guy who runs 4.3-4.4 can get a 20-30 yard catch because he just simply beat the CB. We need a guy to take advantage of our QB who can launch one 60 yards with a flick of the wrist.

"My youngest brothers think I'm a dorky older brother, I can't tell jokes because, 'I'm not funny.' They're much more street smart than I am. They can say whatever they want, cause 'they're funny.' I do pick on them. I try to be funny, but they don't laugh. Even if I am funny, nothing I say is funny to them because I'm just the older brother who's not that cool." - Joe Flacco

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 31, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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