BREAKING NEWS: Ravens Sign T.J. Houshmandzadeh
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 6, 2010 12:21 PM EDT
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PrintAs reported even earlier by our own BAL_Hawk, the Baltimore Ravens agreed to terms with former Cincinnati Bengals and Seattle Seahawks wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh on a one-year, $855,000 contract.
It is also being reported here on NFL.com by Jason La Canfora.
Aaron Wilson from the National Football Post has the news here.
Click here for the story on ProFootballTalk.com
So far nothing confirming the move on BaltimoreRavens.com, although that should change shortly once it becomes official.
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This should be filed under the
“Yet another reason to worship Ozzie” section Bruce.
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Holy crap what move. I was thinking to myself this weekend, “what if the ravens picked him up?” Well if the bungles were arc favs for having T.O. and ocho Jack a**, what are we now??
by wildcatt86 on Sep 6, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would get Bruce to ban you, but so far you have not ceased to amuse me.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Story Up at Baltimore Ravens.com
http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2010/09/06/reports-ravens-agree-with-housh/
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So
The Seahawks traded us Josh Wilson and T.J. for a draft pick? Nice!
by wild.twins.ravens.win on Sep 6, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
Edgar Jones currently has it , but I’m pretty sure that is going to change soon.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones switched to 48 last week
Looks like 84’s open:
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Player_Roster.aspx?q=number
and Jones is switching again
to #50, frmerly worn by A. Barnes. The only nmber that should be retired right away is #41, Frank Walker’s. Ouch!
aka 'Rexx'
No way
Too much potential with the TE’s, and too much injury history with Heap.
My guess is either David Reed, Edgar Jones, Ken Hamlin, or Marcus Smith. Either way, I bet Hamiln is gone by the time Ed Reed gets back.
Edgar Jones
I sure hope they don’t cut him. He provides depth on offense and defense and is a monster on ST.
For a guy who has bounced around positions so much, the fact that they’ve kept him around as long as they have speaks volumes about his ST contributions.
They say the empty can rattles the most...
You’ve been playing too much madden
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you need to vent?
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Word is that Clayton
is either gonna be traded or actually just released (according to Aaron Wilson at the Carroll County Times and NFP.com).
aka 'Rexx'
traded to STL for a late round pick.
he might actually have fantasy relevence over there with bradford, since they are going to be throwing alot when they are behind which will be most of the time.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
In deep leagues maybe
They still have Steven Jackson and will probably ram the ball down opposing teams throats to protect Bradford
- Dedicated Raven since 2003 -
no o-line so either way will be hard. im thinking lots of playaction and reverses to clayton :)
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
Good point but I dont think spagnolo is that type of coach and idk who the O cordinator is.
- Dedicated Raven since 2003 -
Pat Shurmer
Was the D-Coordinator of the SB Packers in the 90’s and with the Eagles since then.
Pat Shurmur (born April 14, 1965) is the current offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams.
His uncle, the late Fritz Shurmur, served as the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator from 1994-98 and helped that club win two NFC Championships and one Super Bowl title. Pat has four children, Allison, Erica, Claire and Kyle.
Pat began working for the Philadelphia Eagles in 1999.1
On January 21, 2009, Shurmur was hired by Steve Spagnuolo to be the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather Burgess or Clayton than any of those guys.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
AKA
Butter fingers McGee
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude drops one pass
and everyone hates him forever. His problem wasn’t ever his ability to catch, twas his ability to get open against any decent coverage. He certainly never lived up to that 1st round pick nonsense.
If I remember correctly, DMase also dropped a pretty catch-able ball that cost the Ravens a game, and yet no one hates on him for it.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Sep 7, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Nasty receiver set. Boldin and TJ blocking for Rice will be pain enough for D’s let alone vicious slant patterns where they can plow a shoulder into an LB’s chest.
if TJ's blocking
Mason must be riding the bench then? No way he’s more than a 3 and if there’s 3 recievers on the field for you guys it’s because you HAVE to pass
Nooo, It’s called the Ravens giving Joe Flacco more responsibility. Are you stupid or just plain ignorant?
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
WOWOWOW
Raven said something positive about our team!!!! lol
by TurtlePower88 on Sep 6, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Impossible I say!
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
When they do something smart I will commend them. By pouring some money on O we can find out what Flacco can do. Last year it was mostly Rice and Mason with Willis playing mop up. It was amazing how far we went with those 3 and Flacco still learning. It all has to click this year. As far as receiver and rb depth it doesn’t get much better than this. 3 TE’s that can start. 5 veteran receivers. 3 starting RB’s. Rays twilight years along with Gregg, Reed and Mason. It has to happen now. I expect a huge sense of urgency with this team. I expect to see young players who step out of line to have there necks grabbed by more than 1 verteran. There is so much on the line for so many veteran players.
also Birk, Heap, and Pryce’s twilight years
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
a load of vets..cant keep track. heap has the best chance of sitting this year out of all the vets. i am very excited about Dickson and Pitta. I’d like to see them on the field together and keeping blitzing D’s honest.
heap will see the field plenty because he is by far the best blocker of the 3. however, his targets will likely be cut in half due to the 2 rookies.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Attention Harbaugh- Do not use TJ on ST’s.
by raven on Sep 6, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Everyone rec this.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Slot. That’s how he made his living. And Mason is proven and knows the playbook. It will look a little like
#1Boldin
#2Mason
#3TJ
#4Stallworth
#5Clayton
me likey.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
CLayton #4 and Reed#5, we still have amazing insurance
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It looked like Clayton
was ahead of Stallworth, even before Stallworth broke his foot – based on what I watched of the pre-season games.
They say the empty can rattles the most...
I can see us keeping housh when mason retires after this season.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mason’s made it clear he wants to come back for 2-3 more years.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well does anyone have a clue on what ozzie is thinking besides loading up to go to war.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rumr is
that Clayton is next to go, even if it means lain releasing him. Mixed feelings over this s he might be a better deep guy thn TJ, or even Mason.
aka 'Rexx'
I think the ravens are really going a little to over board I know tj a good
player but come on the guy still has to learn the playbook and the opening season is next monday
I give Flacco a hard time but he is a decent NFL QB. With that said, what would you do if he struggles with all these pieces around him? Would blame Cam first or Flacco and how much time can we giver them both? I mean they are locked and loaded with the tools they have.
Flacco.
We can’t allow ourselves to turn into an Alex Smith-like forgiving camp. It’s the QB.
Not sure if this is accurate but i just read that the Ravens were the team that was dealing with San Diego when the talks broke down for Vincent Jackson.
Knowing Ozzie we will find a way to trade a 7th round pick for VJacks.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
should be really interesting to see how it all shakes out.
I still have a hard time picturing a Ravens jersey with TJ’s last name on it!
They say the empty can rattles the most...
Ravens TV programming
More good news for “out of towners”. The Ravens TV shows formally shown on MASN (Direct Tv channel 640) are showing up this week on (Direct Tv channel 642 )… Now back to TJ talk.
by Ngata 92 on Sep 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
All I get is the F’ing Revis thing
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe a 3rd round pick for him?
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
dream on BW
what team gives up a 3rd round pick for a player about to be released?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
Bengals or Raiders
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
name the last time the bengals
traded away a 1st-4th round pick?
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Was it longer ago than the last time the Bengals had back-to-back winning seasons?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Was it longer ago than the last time Palmer had back-to-back completions?
by GrumpyOldBird on Sep 6, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll accept the 2 off topic retorts
as acknowledgment of ignorance concerning the question
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
No we are just all really tired of you guys acting cocky for no reason.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
but they won the division last year! and swept it!
and won a bunch of playoff games! oh wait, that last part didn’t happen. in fact, when was the last time they won a playoff game? the 80s?
and the ravens rocked in the 80s and 90s
wait they were the browns then.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
that makes it even funnier
but a bungles fan wouldn’t get that, apparently. when the ravens get to the playoffs, which is often, they usually advance. even last year, we won a road game in foxboro, and Cincinnati bungled a home playoff game. shocking, i say!
you said the bengals trade 3 round picks for soon to be released players
i asked you to name any trades the bengals have made, ever, involving a 1st to 4th draft pick for a player.
and now your answer:
No we are just all really tired of you guys acting cocky for no reason.
not sure how its cocky asking you provide an example or two
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I never said that, and you should really take the fact that you are in a RAVENS blog into consideration.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and you do on cincyjungle?
he disputed a claim that’s not close to being true. mike brown NEVER trades high draft picks and barely parts with low ones. those are the facts.
RIP Slim.
yeah, because ravens fans never talk
about how good they are going to be, or how easy it will be to beat the bengals, etc.
we’re all fans, we think our respective teams are amazing every year before the season starts, then we talk based on results.
you made it farther in the postseason, we kind of own you as far as head to head since we drafted palmer. we all talk and last time i checked, it’s what these boards are for.
can’t we just agree that at least we’re all not steeler fans?
RIP Slim.
You guys can win all the regular season games you want. We’ll take the playoff wins.
Eff the Steelers and Ben.
and that's fine
i mean i’ll take playoff wins too, but we can claim we beat you head to head and take solace in the fact we don’t play the same teams in the playoffs, thus no one knows what would happen if our situations were reversed.
you can claim you make it farther in the playoffs and that’s all that matters. i’m fine with that. but like ive said before, you run the risk of sounding like a steelers fan.
6 superbowls wooo!!! and i say eff that.
RIP Slim.
If you can somehow take solace in not winning any playoff games, more power to you.
You guys do own us in the regular season, no debating there.
when you haven't won a playoff game in 20 yrs
you have 2 options:
take solace in what you can
quit being a fan.
since i’m a true fan, quitting isn’t an option so we look for what we can.
RIP Slim.
With Clayton gone we won’t have a deep threat at all. Unless David reed is assuming those duties
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stallworth?
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Stallworth is done for the first five to seven games.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 1:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s not like we will need him for that long. We have 3 possesion receivers that can get decent YAC. and Rice is a monster out of the back filed. Really I’m all for Clayton getting traded.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
U right about that. Flaccid has no excuse but to get over 4000 yards this year. Could flacco get Mvp. I would be happy if he was nominated.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He doesn’t even need to break 4000 yards for all I care. 3000 for 35-40 is fine by me. MVP I think is pushing it a little, but I definitely think he has the ability to compete for it down the road.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He has the excuse of having
2 running backs that could be #1 backs for just about any team not named the Titans, and the best fullback in the league affecting his pass:run ratio.
by Roa on Sep 6, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Broken foot bruh where u been.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like I stated above, we don’t need to rely on a deep threat. We have a running game, and 3 solid receivers.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez your offense is gonna be stacked this year
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
You know waht people are forgetting? The fact that we still have a top 5 RB that needs to be covered out of the back field.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, I bet that his catches would go down a little bit though.
I have you guys as the AFC team I think will be in the Super Bowl this year, and Housh will help out a lot with that. Some of the people on your defense need to get healed up though.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Mark Clayton is on the trading block.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see Clayton going to San Diego.
They need a #2 in the worst way.
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I just hope cam cam can handle this.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You should be more worried about Flacco. His arm will be detached from throwing so much by the end of the year.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Naw cam is who I’m worried about. Just because we have all.theses receivers we still have to run the ball and not be one dimensional. If he can manage that we will be a very powerful offense. That is if we can find a right tackle.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gaither should be back soon.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think If we had Drew Bennett
We would have have won the superbowl last year…..
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Naw flacco wasn’t there. Mentally. This year I see nothing less then the Afc championship
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was kidding
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark Clayton is about to seriously get the boot. The ravens seem like they are adamant about releasing or trading him. Said the chiefs are showing interest.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
gotta say...
I half expected them to pick up either Coles or TJ after Stall went down, since it’s cheap insurance.
Though, I was a little more shocked about this move than i was when i heard of the Jets reaching out to Adailus Thomas.
I'm still just baffled at the moves Ozzie continues to make
The entire offseason was like a blockbuster film with Samuel L Jackson playing Newsome. Our roster only continues to get stronger, and now our Super Bowl fate lies in the hands of Flacco.
"Me no function beer welll without."
Blger would be a fine replacement
for Flacco. similar styles and imagine how good Bulger could do without having to get knocked on his back like he did for the last few years in St. Louis.
aka 'Rexx'
There’s too much invested in our boy Flacco to just watch the reins get handed over to Bulger, especially with the WR corps we have now.
"Me no function beer welll without."
This Flacco has too much potential and too much invested in him to let Bulger take over
That said yeah Bulger would probably do pretty great now that he has an O-Line with guys like Matt Birk and Oher instead of the cardboard cutouts at St. Louis.
by Roa on Sep 6, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough is Enough!
I’VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERF*CKIN SCRUBS on this MOTHERF*CKIN TEAM. Everybody strap in….I’m about to open the motherf*ckin checkbook.
by 3r1c on Sep 6, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL, That gets a rec
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
wow the ravens aint playing this year for real but wow i didnt think they would
get rid of mark clayton a guy that seem to be good for us this year also he knows the playbook more then the TJ.
Hahahaha. Pittsburgh can’t make a move…hahahaha. Too busy paying fines, teaching Dixon to stand still and being Ambassador to Ireland. Top of the morning to ya Rooneys.
Ricky Ben Bobby- Oh baby Jesus with your little golden shoes and platinum diapers please let Ozzie stop making these awsome moves. Thank you for guiding me through my recovery as I promise to be a better Ricky Ben Bobby and help get my team to .500 this year. I’d like to especially thank Harrison for carrying an entire team as I exposed my noodle in the ladies room. Thank you little baby Jesus.
If only the guys over at BTSC could read this. They’d have you court-martialed. Lol
"Me no function beer welll without."
On another note...
Apparently the Steelers have named Dennis Dixon starting quarterback for tihs Sunday’s loss against the Falcons.
"Me no function beer welll without."
It's Official Josh Wilson has been given #37
http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2010/09/06/jersey-number-changes-assigned/
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GOOOO Navy
beat the sorry fat Fridge so our state can get a respectable coach who recruits more than homefries and gravy.
Maryland won but errr not really.
Doubled up in yardage! Doubled up in TOP! Dobbs sucked inside the ten! Navy doesn’t know when to stop running the same stupid 2 plays! Curses! Fridge might get a Billick pass on this season if this keeps up…you know, have nothing to do with the victory but the opponent screw ups keeps you around ala cincy and cleveless for years and years and years…AAARRG.
Oh don’t worry man, I know we are screwed. Jamaar Robinson has a great chance of being the worst passer in the ACC this year. I mean 3/6, 16 yards and 1 int? Those are Troy Smith numbers right there. Fridge and Franklin better get their shit together with this “passing attack” because if we get down by 14 points, I don’t see how they can come back since Jamaar cannot keep up in a shoot out against good teams. Torrey Smith is too good of a WR and a major deep threat to just run these QB sweeps half the time.
How many draft picks do we have now.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 6, 2010 4:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Does anybody else not like this move?
TJ is a douche, a textbook prima dona wide receiver who complains about not getting the ball enough. How is he going to handle being a #3 receiver? The ravens just traded away a locker room leader(and the team’s only deep threat and are replacing him with another possession guy who also happens to be a huge asshole. On a fan level, not on a talent level, I hate this move.
Not sold on the move
My first reaction was “you’re kidding” and not in a good way. Three reasons I am still somewhat skeptical:
1. Never liked Housh as a player, but that was mainly due to his kicking our butts on the field and being mouthy about it. If he produces for the Ravens, I guess I will get over that pretty fast.
2. He does not add a new dimension to our offense. Another possession type receiver. That being said, having three possession wideouts in a ball control offense is not the worst thing.
3. Not a great locker room guy. There is more heartache in Seattle over Josh Wilson leaving than Housh being cut. Don’t see Cincy fans crying much either. That tells you something.
So while I don’t hate the move, and I hope by mid-season I see the wisdom of Oz, sitting here today I am not feeling it like the rest of the fans here saying this is another ticket punch to the Super Bowl.
Hope they are right and we are wrong.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
3. Not a great locker room guy. There is more heartache in Seattle over Josh Wilson leaving than Housh being cut. Don’t see Cincy fans crying much either. That tells you something.
Has there ever been a locker room problem with the Ravens? No, and that is because Ray Lewis is in there. I’ll be any amount of money that Housh never mouths off once and is only a positive attitude.
Ray will beat him down if he mouths off.
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by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
locker room leader? try the 4th best possession receiver on the team who has a concussion. tj whined cuz he has never been on a winning team. but winning will work wonders. he is actually a great guy, he will not be a cancer for us. you try sharing the ball with ocho and his big mouth and try not to talk back.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 6, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Clayton a locker room leader. I can just picture that…as Ray, Reed, Mason, Boldin, Heap, Ngata, Gree, Suggs, Price and Birk sit quietly in their locker stalls hanging on Claytons every inspiring word. LOL.
TJ is older and wiser. He won’t be a dona on this team. He has 1 year to enjoy the ride. He won’t screw that up. He’s going to be lucy goosey and have a blast. I bet he is a very humble dude with our beasts.
I’ve heard that Clayton pretty much wrote our playbook, and that Ozzie has him on speed dial for when draft day comes around. Of course you have to give credit where credit is due, Billick did teach Mark everything he knows.
"Me no function beer welll without."
i remember when we beat them a few years ago (2008, maybe?)
and afterwards TJ mouthed off about how the bengals were the better team and the ravens knew it. i hated him after that.
i liked Clayton but wondered if he was too nice sometimes. Great receivers demand the “damn ball”. Clayton is not a bust, just an average receiver. At that position you want your guy to be somewhat of a pain in the #$%, Joe should be ready for that in year 3. We now have WR’s that are gamers, wanting to be “the guy”. i’m sure there will be some complaining but winning can cure that.
by Ngata 92 on Sep 6, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I called this move awhile back..
TJ will come in humble and willing to do whatever he’s asked because he’s apart of a team and not asked to be the team savior…Clayton was NO leader on this team,RAY LEWIS is and don’t dismiss the fact that we are a running team and when you put 8 in the box,now we have sure handed & SMART receivers at every position and you don’t need a deep threat,I’ll take chunks 25 yards at a time.TJ for $800,000,IS ROBBERY…GREAT MOVE AND ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THE WIZARD OF OZ,COULD END UP A FLYING MONKEY!
Good move Ravens.
Seahawks are dumb for picking up that much of his contract.
what round pick are you giving up, I would think 4th or later?
Housh was full out released by Seattle (bad waves in the locker room) thus leaving him wide open to join any team he’d like since the Seahawk would have to pay most of his contract. Yadda yadda yadda, he signs with the team most likely to get him his ring, and the rest is history my friend.
"Me no function beer welll without."
What a Greta Move!
Sorry hit enter too soon! This is a great move by the Ravens! TJ is an excellent play maker and perfect addition to the team. I I thrilled to have him on our team. He consistently ate us alive every time he played us. He’s tall and reliable. Wonderful!
i didn't feel like reading all of this
but a lot of people were talking about how old our (bengals) receivers are, but we also have 4 good young receivers on our roster. you just traded away your 1st round draft pick from a few years ago and now you have 2 29 yr olds, a 32 yr old, and a 36 yr old. a 5th rd draft pick, and i’ll admit i know nothing about marcus smith.
an honest question: how do you feel about the future of your WR position? i know it’s usually in ozzie we trust for you guys, but you have literally no one in the wings to take over. (which was the reason we didnt sign TJ. we have to get our young guys some snaps)
RIP Slim.
honestly
as far as the FUTURE goes, it’s pretty murky. Obviously we can expect 3 or 4 good years out of Boldin, so that’s not a big issue. Then the rookie TEs both look great. But obviously there is a lot of uncertainty with Mason and TJ, who would be two big losses to take at the same time (one would think).
The main thing we’re thinking is “holy cow this team looks good” and we want to win a SB. Then, once the CBA is in place, we can talk about re-signing whoever we re-sign and whatever happens will happen.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
i got ya
it makes sense, and i didn’t realize your WRs were old last year too. didn’t you have a young guy, williams or something that was supposed to be a deep target? i feel like i remember that.
it’s going to be a good season for you guys. hopefully flacco improves a little for you, because his playoff performances last year weren’t great and you’ll need more points without ed reed in the lineup.
RIP Slim.
hopefully flacco improves a little for you, because his playoff performances last year weren’t great …
I want to scream every time I read shit like this.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
why?
because it’s true? playoff stats for flacco:
Season Team Games Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Rating
2008 Baltimore 3 75 33 44.0% 437 5.8 48 1 3 50.8
2009 Baltimore 2 45 24 53.3% 223 4.96 27 0 3 39.4
a 50.8 overall rating in 08 and a 39.4 in 09? you think that doesn’t need to improve?
RIP Slim.
Last year, Flacco was playing with a ridiculous leg injury. You could see that his throwing form was way off and he was getting no strength from his lower body. It’s not surprising to hear from fans of the lesser teams that throw out stats but never bother to wonder why he only had ten passing attempts against New England (quick answer: he could barely walk), but I still hear Ravens fans spewing this, too. Assuming our porous offensive line doesn’t get Flacco killed, I expect a much better performance from him in January 2011.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
so was he hurt in 08 too?
i know all about stats not telling the whole story. like how in 08 we had something like 17 of our opening day starters on IR (according to Football Outsiders, the worst injury DVOA in history). Then there’s palmer who has had some sort of lingering injury since the steelers took him out in his first playoff game. But that doesn’t stop ravens fans and everyone else saying he’s not good, flacco’s better, etc.
and leave the lesser team comments out of it. i made an observation based on what i watched the past few years and the stats. especially since head to head, we win more than we lose.
but all of that aside, i fully expect to see him improve, both with maturity and weapons around him. it’s gonna be a battle, as usual.
RIP Slim.
08 he was a rookie. And he actually played pretty well against Tennessee, with a QB rating of 89 (despite it still being a very limited and rookie-ish role he was playing).
Obviously Joe still has to work on certain aspects of his game. I’m not suggesting that he’s an elite passer yet. But that is a leap he could very conceivably make in this season. I’m not sure how many 3rd year QBs have had receiving corps THIS stacked before…
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
carson palmer in 05
and he killed it. so that’s good.
i would worry about the lack of a deep threat though. housh and boldin have made pro bowls out of their work underneath, but if you watched the bengals last year, if you can’t blow the top off the d, underneath routes are hard to come by.
RIP Slim.
true.
But who did you guys have last year. Ocho and Coles. Oh yea and coffman. You need more than one or two guys to blow the lid off it. Mason is a deep threat. He OS no Andre Johnson but he had to have between 7-10 +20 yard plays last year. Added dickson who is a mismatch against any defender and still have heap. Unlike your receivers we have guys that can produce after the catch. You have on in T.O
So either boldin housh or mason can turn a ten yard hitch into 30 yards.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 8, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We had Henry(rip)
For half the season. You can watch our offense stop when he broke his arm. An then he died in the truck accident. The kid was Randy moss lite.
And Coffman never played a game. He was injured. Foot problem.
Ocho, Shipley, Gresham, and Caldwell can produce after the catch. And to seems to be reenergized. So we’ll see.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 8, 2010 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking a different kind of yac. If chad is not hit in stride he will go str8 to the ground. Boldin will turn a 10 yard hitch into a 30 yard gain and the same with housh.
by Raven_all_day on Sep 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah he had been our developing deep threat for about 3 years now. But we just cut him because he was consistently sick in training camp and never turned it on when Sunday came around.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
We are no worse...
off than last season on youth in the wr corp. last year we had mason clayton and kelley washington; clayton was 26 or so, but he wasn’t going to be with us long term unless he was willing to take a reasonable contract. other than that, we had no future at WR. Marcus Smith is a 3rd year player who we took in the 4th round, he was a special teams stud as a rookie, and he was injured in training camp last year. we have hope for him, but he is just a possession receiver.
So between him, Boldin and Reed, plus our 2 TE’s, our receiving future is much more secure than last year, although we still need to find that stud 6"2 + wr of the future.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Sep 7, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Cincy...
So now we have 3 pro-bowl WR,a pro-bowl tight end,full back and tail back,just on offense,we have something like 8 players over 30 yrs old,which makes this a young team.By the time we need WR’s,we’ll get them,we have faith in THE OZ,which I wouldn’t expect you to even comprehend.As for trading away a 1st round draft choice,he didn’t fit the plan and had plenty of time to prove himself,so we upgraded the position.You didn’t sign TJ because he wanted to be in Baltimore,you weren’t a choice,period.You should worry about your team,you have a statue for a QB, a couple prima dona WR who think they are the team instead of being part of a team,this is not the typical Ravens of the past,you will see for yourself soon!!!
P.S. Next time read all the posts
haha.
did you even read my post? because there’s a difference between discussion of a team and whatever you took my post as. but i’ll bite because i love a little tiff.
TJ has talked about coming back to cincy before and always speaks of it like it was a mistake to leave. we were never in consideration because before he was released, marvin said it wouldn’t be a good fit. he almost wound up in washington, so to say baltimore was the first thing on his mind when he was released is ignorant.
a statue for a QB? it’s called pocket presence. a lot of QBs do it. watch a few games, you’ll see. but last time i checked, that statue owns your team. he’s what 8-3, 9-4? i don’t remember off hand and don’t care to check.
but beware the prima donna label, because bengals fans watched first hand as TJ whined and talked about how he was a #1 WR. And last time i checked chad and TO didn’t really have a problem last year with their roles on their teams. TJ, however, whined a lot.
RIP Slim.
We can handle whiners if we get the kind of production we expect
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
by jackmca on Sep 7, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I liked Palmer’s pocket presence pre-knee injury. Now he looks tip toey and unsure (which is understandable after that knee got sliced in half). He did / does own us. Last year was more about Benson than Palmer though.
yeah
benson killed it last year. hopefully that continues. but palmer turned it on at the ends of games last year.
RIP Slim.
“hopefully that continues”
Not so much.
Palmer just doesn’t have the same timing he used too. The ball gets to the receivers when they can’t make YAC. He used to hit guys coming right out of their breaks; not anymore though.
that's a timing issue
that’s not palmer’s age or anything else. and let’s not forget he had a broken thumb last year so selling a play action wasn’t happening, and it took him an extra second to even try.
also, the hopefully that continues quote was about benson thrashing your d.
RIP Slim.
Good point about the injury. We’ll see this year if it was that or his skills diminishing.
Hopefully Ced doesn’t tear up our run D again. That’s what I meant by the not so much comment.
Gotcha. I didn't read it how I should have.
You also have to worry about Scott this year. Kid has crazy speed if he finds anything resembling a hole. It should be a nice 1-2 punch.
That being said, I’d still rather have ray rice.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 8, 2010 4:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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