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The secondary is supposed to be the Ravens' weak link, but there was no sign of trouble by that unit against the Jets. Baltimore's pass defense held up just fine, and next week the Ravens are expecting to get cornerback Lardarius Webb back into the lineup, after completing his rehab from offseason surgery.

Baltimore kept Sanchez bottled up all night long, and the Jets' 2009 first-round pick finished with a paltry 10 completions for 74 yards, a pair of sacks and a 56.4 quarterback rating.

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Remember, those were the Jets

who we played last night, the ones with Sanchez, Braylon, Cotchery and Keller. Next up is a bit different with Carson, 85, TO. Big difference. but glad we still got it done last night.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re right. But Cotchery and Edwards are both solid route-runners and Carr was with them all night.

Any word on if Webb will be with us next week?

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops duh it was in the fan shot

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then again

he was supposedly probable last night, then he was inactive.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly inactive due to the rain

We saw how it affected Kris Jenkins who was also coming off an ACL tear…. He tore it again and his career might be over.

Smart move holding Webb out.

by DT711 on Sep 14, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey,

whatever works. Scott Garceau said today that maybe you bite the bullet and keep him inactive against the Bengals, hoping your secondary can hold up. Which, given that the game immediately following is at home against the Browns, that would probably give him 2 more weeks to heal up and be absolutely certain he’s healthy. Then again, his first contact would be in the sure to be extremely physical Steelers game.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say put him in nickel and dime packages against Cincy to minimize any chance of injury but to give him a taste of game speed.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this idea.

Gives him a decent amount of snaps (like 15 tops), but don’t put him on TO or Ocho. Unless there’s any doubt about him being 100% healthy. In which case, don’t dress him.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm

I’m more worried about the other team having Carson rather than Sanchize.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m especially happy for Carr.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

He was an overpaid, underachieving corner last year (for the most part). Not so much in game 1.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carr had a slow start last year, as did most of the defense. In the second half of the season, he was a part of one of the most prolific pass defenses in the league.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Sep 14, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Accepted.

But playing against Manning and Rodgers (in ridiculous cold, much easier to run the ball) and Roethlisberger than no one else in the 2nd half certainly helped. Although the pass defense mostly shut down Manning. Three games against three mediocre to bad teams (Browns, Lions, Bears) with 3 questionable QBs certainly helped those numbers (74, 126, 98 passing yds respectively).

Having Frank Walker opposite him may have helped him looked good as well.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this meant to be Satirical?

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

No

You’re meant to watch the games and know what the Fan Shot is referring to.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched the game

Now I am wondering if Don Banks did. The Jets barely threw the damn ball, 14 times before the last two minutes. Obviously, it showed no signs of trouble because Sanchez barely threw anything at it. That is mostly because of Sanchez sucking and the OC being clueless. Sanchez is, at best, a bad quarterback who checks down faster than Kerry Collins.

When they were finally forced to come at it the Ravens had a lot of leeway because the Jets had 1 TO, 90 seconds, and an 82 yard field to go. A monkey with a clip board could have scripted the defense to stop that.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

See below comment.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you were watching the coverage, Carr never got beat. Cotchery and Edwards would be expected to beat a guy like him, and they didn’t. That’s why Sanchez never threw them the ball.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You cannot watch all of the coverage on a regular broadcast. Unless you have the game tape you are lying. Not to add that they still only called less than 40% pass plays.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

not all of the coverage but whenever you got a look at Carr he was right with his man. And anytime they did pass, they brought the replay of the coverages up, and Carr was right with his man. Sure, he had a light load. But he did his damn job.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I will admit, you all did a really good job covering and shutting down last year’s 31st ranked pass offense. We can now safely assume that your secondary has no problem.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did better than expected and Wilson is still learning the system and Webb is getting healthy. Once those two things happen, and we have a guy like Carr as our #4, we will be able to safely assume that our secondary has no problem.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever helps you sleep better.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give him a break.

He has to watch DD play QB. And imagine what will happen when they play week 4.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know Dixon had a better passer rating this week than Flacco, right?

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who did Dixon play against?

Also, I watched Dixon fail to convert numerous 3rd downs. And throw a ridiculously poor pass right to a Falcons LB/DE.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't say that

Johnny only speaks in statistics. He is incapable of taking anything away from actual game footage. If there isn’t a stat that proves your point, then you don’t exist, and Johnny is smarter than you.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 Int is a stat.

3rd down completion/attempts is a stat. I’ll look them up when I feel like looking at the wretched stats from that game. And being sad about Michael Turner.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much smarter.

Did anyone else notice Boldin quitting in the game last night? He only had 110 yards against the leagues best pass defense… What a loser!

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

After his last reception, you can see him go punch his time card on the sideline and quit. It’s official. He’s a quitter.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lito Sheppard is still on the Jets?

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does that even mean?

They felt they made a huge upgrade with Cromartie and Wilson.

Lito Sheppard is not that highly thought of as a player anymore Johnny.

by DT711 on Sep 14, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

against the leagues best pass defense

It means it was against last year’s best pass defense, which isn’t this years. Revis didn’t even cover Boldin the majority of the game.

Anyway, Shepapard is way better than Cromartie and a rookie. When was Cromartie ever thought of as a good player? Ask the Chargers fans about that one.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that time he had 10 picks, i dunno

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Picks are more about luck than they are skill. Tipped balls, bad passes, lucky bounces, etc. A good CB is known for his coverage skills, not his ability to intercept the ball.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. But you asked when SD fans ever thought he was any good. I’m pretty sure they thought he was good when he had 10 picks.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Reed
Picks are more about luck than they are skill.

I am going to have Ed Reed buy me a lottery ticket ’cause he must be the luckiest man alive…

by vlad755 on Sep 15, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

but as far as CBs go, Johnny is sortof right. DeAngelo hall gets his fair share of picks and he’s not very good in coverage.
But he asked when SD fans ever thought he was good.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I meant picks for a CB. A safety is a lot different because he is facing the QB most of the time, not the CB.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that should read “not the WR”

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see what you're saying

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

When was Cromartie ever thought of as a good player?

Uh, maybe when the Jets traded a third and possibly second round pick for one year of his services?

by DT711 on Sep 15, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the team that he was on was excited to get rid of him? I’m going to assume they know more about him.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe so

But you said when was he thought of as a good player, and I think its clear the Jets thought he was a good player last off season or they never would have gave up so much for him.

While we most all agree Rex was wrong about Cro, Rex normally is a solid evaluator of defensive talent.

by DT711 on Sep 15, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dixon played against a much improved Atlanta D

Also, I watched Flacco throw right into coverage for an easy pick by Cromartie and hold on to a ball about 3 seconds longer than he was supposed to for a sack fumble.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

then you also saw him convert all of those 3rd downs right?

I don’t think you’re arguing that DD is better than Flacco. And I’m also not excusing him for his two turnovers. But he sustained those drives and he won us the game.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just saying his point about “having to watch Dixon” was dumb.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt. But he got lucky with some dropped INTs there. I’ll admit I missed a chunk of the game because I was on a train to Baltimore, but when I turned it back on there were definitely some errant throws.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It happens, I expected those. I didn’t expect him to march down the field for a score on his first possession though. Nor did I expect him to complete 69% of his passes.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched shit QBs

for 10 years. I know how painful it is to watch.

I will admit that I expect Dixon to be better than anyone we ever had, with the exception of perhaps McNair. I expect him to be a good NFL QB. He simply isn’t yet.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it makes watching games easier to watch personally. I don’t expect to win every week. I think we have a 50/50 shot if the defense is there, which it was. I am a lot more relaxed and don’t get pissed off when bad offense happens.

With Ben playing I expect them to win all their games. I get more upset when they lose that way.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understandable.

I think I’d always choose to think that my team wins 100 percent of their games and have them lose 6-7 and make the playoffs. But I can understand being less stressed. That Viking game last year nearly killed me.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also u should’ve saw the boldin and heap were in the same area so therefore either anquan or heap ran the wrong route putting more defenders in that area. Flacco is still at fault for throwing it but he will share that blame.

by Raven_all_day on Sep 14, 2010 10:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Passer rating?

He had a better rating because he was more accurate. Because he had a running game. How many deep shots did the Steelers take? I watched the Ravens, time and again, throw deep passes, and Flacco’s accuracy on deep balls was wretched.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on what you define as deep. There was only one bomb to Wallace for 50 yards. He also threw a 21, 24 and 25 yarder to Ward.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

20+ would count as deep.

That’s around where Flacco’s accuracy disappears.

Were Ward’s catches boosted by YAC?

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think one of them was

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you come up with that? That’s good, can I use it?

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once he converts it to stat form its all yours…

by DT711 on Sep 14, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather not debate whether the Ravens had a strong start or whether the Jets simply suck.

The season has started. Let’s wait and see. I’m not at all worried about our secondary.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you watched that game, I don’t know how you don’t conclude that Sanchez sucks.

My point was that you can’t conclude that the Ravens secondary is fine from that game.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even Sanchez can hit open receivers...

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not when you check down before the play develops.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a valid point. I don’t think anyone is saying that there are no more worries.

We’re just happy that they started off strong. This is a Ravens’ blog, you know. We can be happy about them playing well.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been saying all summer that Sanchez sucks. Obviously my hopes and dreams have been realized. But still, for Carr to be running neck and neck with Cotchery and Edwards is encouraging. They’re not garbage receivers. And any time the camera showed Carr (because I was specifically looking for him), he was doing his job the right way. I’m happy with how he played.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carr had to defend at least two targets last night that were on target and he did exceptionally well.

The one throw was to Edwards on a deep go-route down the sideline and Carr was with Edwards step-for-step. When the ball arrived, Carr got his head around and deflected the ball. The other throw was a deep out route to Cotchery. Carr had tight coverage and broke up the pass when it arrived. Those are the only two that I can remember off the top of my head.

Sure, Sanchez isn’t that great and their receivers aren’t the league’s best either, but the Ravens secondary played fast, in position and with discipline. That is a very encouraging start for them.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

And I’d like to point out that we are missing our best two players in the secondary who will be back fairly soon. Add Reed and Webb to the mix and I think we’ll have one of the top five secondaries in the league.

by DT711 on Sep 14, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a NFL qb.1st rounder. He cud complete the pass I’m sure. I could see if he was a rookie. Last year he had the highest pass yards for a rookie QB in jet history. He can play.

by Raven_all_day on Sep 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Then again,

Ryan Leaf, Cade Mcnown, Akili Smith, etc were also first round QBs….

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol I kno but my point is that he is a QB if he sucked so bad brunell would be the starter.

by Raven_all_day on Sep 14, 2010 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do you remember the Kyle Boller era?

by BmoreBlitz on Sep 15, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, being a first round drafted QB automatically makes you good? Man I forgot how good Ryan Leaf was. Pro bowler for sure.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait

for December 5th.

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be too if I was going up against a team’s 3rd string QB.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice how I said December 5th?

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s predicting that Ben will rape someone else and get a lifetime ban.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 14, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad

Didn’t think anyone would look forward to a loss.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 14, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll be so sweet to put a nail in the Steelers' coffin

"Give us 10 points and the game is over...And they didn't score on us. Make sure you quote that. They didn't score on our defense."

"Ray Lewis has lost a step? I don't think so, Ray Lewis is still the best linebacker in football."-JH

by organizedchaos52 on Sep 14, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be too if I was going up against a team’s 3rd string QB.

You would honestly rather have Leftwich go against us?

by DT711 on Sep 14, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it that Steelers fans are making up excuses already.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what they do

as we swept them last year all you heard were excuses

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by TennBengalfan on Sep 15, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you talking? Your team just got embarrassed.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just think it’s funny, because if you win that game all Ravens fans will talk like they are the best team in the world.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

This coming from a Steelers’ fan.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 15, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

We think we are the best after we win superbowls, not regular season matchups.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

That makes sense. I can see how a Super Bowl victory from two years ago makes your team the best.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 15, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, because that is what I was saying. By “after” I meant for the next few months not for the rest of eternity. I’m not sure why you made the assumption of the latter and not the former.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes… and I started out this ridiculous word game by referencing Steelers’ fans, who think that their team is omnipotent because of Super Bowls won in the seventies. You know what I’m talking about.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 15, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was not alive in the 70s, so no, no I don’t.

I argue we are a great team based on our perennially top 5 defense, being a constant playoff contender, and our ability to win in the playoffs.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I argue we are a great team based on our perennially top 5 defense, being a constant playoff contender, and our ability to win in the playoffs.

By that definition, the Ravens are a “great team” too. Thanks!

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 15, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never said you weren't

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

So...

The “S” stands for semantics???

by GrumpyOldBird on Sep 16, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

semantics and statistics. It’s a good cover-all for Johnny

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 17, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I really wish Leftwich was ready to go against us. I’m much more concerned about Dixon then I would be about Leftwich.

by DT711 on Sep 15, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t really matter who you are concerned about. Leftwich is a better passer than Dixon right now.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

we would bury Leftwich. Dixon can at least cause problems with his athleticism.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Debatable on Lefty.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s debatable, but I know which side of the debate I’m on.

If you can protect him, he’s better. But can you protect him from us? Just imagine all those times Ben sidestepped one of our pass rushers and then made a big play. Now imagine Lefty getting smashed instead of making that play. The game would be very different.

Dixon, on the other hand, can extend that play, even if he’s a bit of a liability throwing the ball. That liability is reduced slightly by the absence of Ed Reed. I’d go with DD if I were you.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not the same OL you saw last year. Hard to make that argument.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re right. You’ve swapped Colon for Flomax and Starks is already banged up. Pouncey is a player for sure but its far from guaranteeing that your QB won’t get sacked. Leftwich requires Russ Grimm and the Hogs for his protection.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there is going to be a drop off from Colon to Flozell. Starks just has a low ankle sprain. And going from one of the worst, if not the worst, center in the league to a Stud is no write off.

The OL won’t be great because we have problems at Guard, but I think it will be better.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i agree it will be better. But I like our chances of rattling Leftwich.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leftwich is a better passer than Dixon right now.

Thats one part of the equation but Leftwich moves like a water buffalo while Dixon has sometimes scary mobility.

by DT711 on Sep 15, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scary mobility that our unimaginative OC has absolutely no idea how to plan around.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

most don’t. QB scrambles aren’t written into the playbook.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roll outs, boot legs, and delayed QB runs are.

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Sep 15, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean those do require new blocking schemes and I could see why you wouldn’t want to rework your entire practice session with the first team just to accommodate Dixon. He can still use his speed for improvization.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Sep 15, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could this be satirical? Banks was simply stating the facts.

He said that the Ravens’ secondary showed no weakness versus the Jets, and that’s a fact. He said that Webb should be returning next week, and that’s a fact. He said that Sanchez was bottled up all night with a 56.4 quarterback rating, and that’s a fact. It’s not like he said that the Ravens’ secondary is the most talented in the league. He was just stating that they had a very strong start with no signs of weakness.

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 14, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL.com power rankings has the ravens at 3rd best. We win next week and we may start to hear more hype.

by Raven_all_day on Sep 14, 2010 11:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Carr is our best tackler in the scondary. We get the most for the buck out of him. Great pick-up getting him.

by raven on Sep 14, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Dixon amost beat us last year and I think if Tomlin let him run more and play on pure natural instinct the Steelers would have one. I see our game as an even matchup. Dixon=Flacco simply because Dixon can extend plays and Flacco can’t.

We finally cancelled out Ward by adding Boldin. Suugs might be ready to play and= Harrison. It will come down the to the run game and d-line pressure. We win the run game and lose the rush game. It will be tight.

by raven on Sep 14, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Right….. because that’s how football is played. Suggs vs Harrison, Ward vs Boldin….

by BmoreBlitz on Sep 15, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should be a fun one in Cincy Sunday

Sanchez can make any secondary look good, if you shut down Palmer, T.O., Ocho, Shipley, Gresham, and Benson then I will give you mad props. The real test for the both of our squads will be Sunday at PBS

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by TennBengalfan on Sep 15, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

You right, Webb, Cody, and Wilson should be in the lineup. Atleast Cody. I like our chances. Should count on Flacco having a better game and having rice make more plays. Good luck, alot is riding on this game.

by Raven_all_day on Sep 15, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great hit on Keller by Lewis BTW

lovely

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by TennBengalfan on Sep 15, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

just got back from the game

that was ugly but a W is a W. the real test is keeping it going next week.

by davver on Sep 15, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

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