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Ravens Training Camp: Wednesday AM Edition

Derrick Mason Talks with the Ravens' Team Trainer

As I enter the fields, I immediately notice the up-tempo of the morning's practice. I also notice the team's PR Department is all dressed in collared shirts, quite possibly all linked to the impending visit of the NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. More to follow in another story on the Commish's visit who is traveling around the NFL Training Camps with the king of all video games, John Madden.

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WR Derrick Mason is on the sidelines but his injury yesterday doesn't look serious enough to keep him out of action too long. CB Fabian Washington is practicing with the first team and fellow CB Lardarius Webb is on the sidelines jumping up and down on his surgically prepared leg.

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There is a murmur in the media as the 'Madden Mobile' pulls up with both Roger Goodell and John Madden.

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The linebackers are hitting the practice sled, including a leaner and seemingly more focused Terrell Suggs.

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Back out on the field, the Ravens come out in 11-on-11 drills with three WR's slit to one side. QB Joe Flacco throws and Zbikowski picks Joe's throw and takes off down the field with the INT.

In 2-on-2 drills with two offensive linemen/tight ends going up against two defensive linemen/linebackers, LT Michael Oher manhandles LB Jarret Johnson, but Johnson gets right back up against TE Davon Drew, making the play.

The first-team defensive backfield is beginning to shape up, at least for the start of the pre-season and perhaps the regular season as well. CB's Chris Carr and Fabian Washington, along with safeties Dawan Landry and Tom Zbikowski team up to play with the first string front seven in drills.

The offense is practicing lateral drills, taking turns pitching the ball back and forth, even across the field until Flacco grabs it out of the air and selfishly takes it to the house.

Flacco's pass hits Todd Heap in the chest over the middle of the field but Heap is nailed on a hard hit by Ken Hamlin, dislodging the ball for an incomplete pass.

Terrence Cody stays low to impress the coaches, getting uder the ropes in d-line drills.

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The field goal kicking competition continues but once again, no one takes a clear lead in the fight for the job. Head Coach John Harbaugh says at the podium that while he'd love to have the kicker decided before Training Camp, at least this year these guys are putting a lot more kicks through the uprights.

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Webb looks like he is fresh out of Fear and Loathing.

I agree about the kicking competition. Man, they were kicking field goals for all of the 2.5 hours yesterday and most of them were going in. I would say both guys hit about 90-92% of their field goals including a BUNCH of 50+ yard kicks. Cundiff isn’t just laying down, but you can definitely tell that Graham has the much stronger leg.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 4, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

let’s hope he’s not tripping on microdot and popping ludes to stay calm…

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

As his attorney I’ve advised him to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in his shaving kit. He won’t need much, just a tiny taste…..

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

in the event of a "tie"...

I’d have to think they give it to Graham.

by davver on Aug 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now I agree

Even though Cundiff is the “incumbent,” Graham has that AFC North experience all over Billy and has looked a little bit better, but so far, no clear cut leader in the competition.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 4, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. If it’s a tie, stronger leg wins. Especially because we play in a lot of windy games.

by BmoreBlitz on Aug 4, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Graham has missed some pretty important kicks. I would rather have a consistent kicker versus a strong-legged kicker.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 4, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

taken together

on Cundiff’s career, “consistent” is not the word you would choose. THAT would be Graham. He showed us his clutch last year though, and that’s why I’d take him in a tie. But it’s good to hear that both guys are hitting a lot of kicks.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 4, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big day for Billy
KICKING UPDATE Despite hitting the Madden Cruiser with a field goal, Billy Cundiff had a productive day, outperforming Shayne Graham. Cundiff connected on five of six field goals. His only miss was from 60 yards. Graham hit four of seven field goals. His misses were from 34, 47 and 60 yards.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-training-camp-highlights20100804,0,43770.story

by DT711 on Aug 4, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 4, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Billy had a rough day today, missing three kicks.

by DT711 on Aug 5, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullocks

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 5, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love when the team trainers have that big ole spare tire.

by BmoreBlitz on Aug 4, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, IU was looking at some local high school or college coaches

and thought, “gee, what a great lead example, huh?”

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 4, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how the cornerback doug dutch is doing now but i hope one the other guys

step up so chris carr can only play nickel and he is doing really well in training camp but he shines better in the nicker postion

by jazz20 on Aug 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully our pass rush is better than it was last year. If the Suggs that we all know shows up this season, then he’ll make a lot of these guys look good. Its nice to hear that Zbi is taking snaps with the first team rather than Hamlin. He’s just done so much filling in for this team to not give him a shot as the starter.

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Aug 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha that guy “celtsfan” probably just hung himself because the celtics are signing Shaq. Wow I thought they were smarter than that…

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 4, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah, he still has a pulse (Unfortunately), he’s posting over at BTSC.

"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me

by Zachary Beard on Aug 4, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got that correct

it’s all about the pass rush. If Webb and Foxworth were healthy and ready, it wouldn’t mean squat w/o the pass rush, as no one stays covered long when the QB has all day to look for someone.

But to think that it is possible that our 4th CB (Carr?) could be matched up against TO when we play the Bengals is a little bit scary, even more so w/o Reed to cheat and help out on either 85 or 81.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 4, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I want us to have a better pass rush too but.....

Its starting to sound like our corners are the worst in the league, when we say we definately need a pass rush. I dont think the Jets had more sacks than us and Revis was a beast. I would like Webb and Harris to be the Starters once healthy. Fabian has blazing speed but is undersized and inconsistant.Harris is proven, and his knee is back to full strength.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 4, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Carr our #1 corner at this point?

by davver on Aug 4, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, fabian is. He’s back.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 4, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Webb’s Kangaroo jack safari hat..

"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me

by Zachary Beard on Aug 4, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Jameel McClain

Does anyone know what Jameel is doing in practice that has him being the handsdown starter for the preseason. They are raving about the guy, something about Ellerbe is just good against the run, and Gooden the pass.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 4, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ellerbe came in out of shape and overweight. Harbaugh is sending him a message.

by BmoreBlitz on Aug 5, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh, that makes sense now.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 5, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

U think that’s all there is to it. They seem to be really excited a out jameel to start the season

by Raven_all_day on Aug 5, 2010 9:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ellerbe had the inside track before training camp started and immediately lost it when he came in overweight. Now I’m guessing it’s really up in the air for which one starts next to Ray.

by BmoreBlitz on Aug 5, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Guess

Is regardless who starts the season next to Ray, Ellerbe will end the season there (barring injury).

by DT711 on Aug 5, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think that? If Jameel is a better overall ILB that doesnt make sense for someone thats just good against the run to be in there. He realizes that the opportunity doesnt hapen everyday so i think he will hold on to the spot for awhile.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 5, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Ellerbe is going to be a really good NFL player and that Jameel may be more naturally suited to playing off the edge.

by DT711 on Aug 5, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the ravens have any scrimmages this year, or was that just a one time thing.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 5, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Practie Saturday at M&T Bank Stadium

Free and open to the public at noon.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 5, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it against the Redskins

by Raven_all_day on Aug 6, 2010 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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