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Suggs vs. Haynesworth?

As the Washington Redskins' Albert Haynesworth saga continues, some people have tried to compare the wrath of hostility directed towards Haynesworth to the disappointing season the Baltimore Ravens' Terrell Suggs had in 2009 right after signing his $60+ million contract in the off season. However, I see it having nothing in common and respond accordingly.

Here is the email with links I received from our buddy, Kevin, lead writer over at SB Nations' Redskins' site, Hogs Haven:

Interesting piece...what's your thought on Suggs and if he's like Haynesworth?? He looked good against Skins but did fans and/or players ever sour on him over the last year?


Everybody's fixating on the $32 million the Redskins have paid Albert Haynesworth the past year in return for nothing. How come Terrell Suggs is getting a free ride from the media? Last summer, Suggs, a pass-rush specialist, signed a deal with $39 million guaranteed -- and he already has the $39 million, as it was a rare front-loaded deal. What does Baltimore have? Suggs registered 4.5 sacks in 2009, or $8.7 million per sack. Last summer, Suggs celebrated his megadeal by reporting out of shape. This winter, with the $39 million already banked, he celebrated by skipping minicamp. Suggs has been nearly as much of a disappointment as Haynesworth.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/100824_tuesday_morning_quarterback&sportCat=nfl

You can disregard...I found a nice rebuttal of Eastwood here...


http://bottom-of-the-barrel.blogspot.com/2010/08/decent-ideas-intertwined-with-idiotic.html

This was my response:

Kevin-
My thoughts: The difference is that Suggs reported to camp in July in great shape with a great attitude and easily passed his conditioning test. In Baltimore, and especially here on Baltimore Beatdown, Suggs took a beating for his lackluster performance in 2009, reporting to camp that summer out of shape whch probably added to his injury early on in camp. His stats weren't good at all, but I still defend him saying he had zero help on the pass rush so opponents constantly double-teamed him. This year, he is a vocal leader, fun-loving teasing guy, who is making the plays and the efforts needed to improve on last year, for which Ravens fans are behind him and very excited to see what he can do in 2010.
 
Good enough? Peace,
-Bruce

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I would also add

that Suggs didn’t get paid as a “pass-rush specialist,” he got paid as a complete hybrid OLB/DE. Though his sack totals were down last season, he was very solid holding the edge against the run and dropping into coverage. Not to mention that the games he missed due to Brady “Cheap-Shot-Knee-Buster” Quinn surely impacted his ability to rack up stats in the sack-category.

They say the empty can rattles the most...

by Massacre on Aug 27, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

This guy also fails to realize that Suggs is one of the best, if not the best, OLB against the run in the NFL. Also drops back in coverage alot more often than other OLB.

These are two totally different situations and I just find it strange that he is jealous we aren’t getting on Suggs ass about what he did last year just because they are upset about Haynesworthless.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Warren Sapp did a film study on Sapp recently on NFL Network, and it was pretty damning. There was a whole lot of “OG” going on, or what is referred to as “on-the-ground,” which is not where a D-Lineman wants a blocker to put him. Haynesworth has yet to demonstrate the dominant performance he put on for the Titans since his move to DC. Suggs, on the other hand, is a career Raven who really only has one bad season under his belt. Haynesworth also has one bad season but most would say he’s working hard on having another lackluster season this year.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ngata > Hayneswroth…yes

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 28, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that goes without saying

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suggs has executed a cute little cheereleader dance and recorded 1 sack since his re-signing. Thats a fact.

by raven on Aug 27, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

your second “fact” is fiction

They say the empty can rattles the most...

by Massacre on Aug 28, 2010 12:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

how many sacks did he have last year?

by raven on Aug 28, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hayneswroth had 3 I think.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 28, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth had four sacks over 12 games and Suggs had 4.5 sacks over 13 games.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 28, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Redskins are screwed. They can’t just cut the guy, no one is going to trade for him and give them any kind of value and if you keep him around and let him continue with the insubordination you risk losing your team.

What a mess.

Suggs is a completely different story. Sure he didn’t have a great year last year but I think that was the exception. Plus, he’s put on the line for us and risked injury. Remember when Brady Quinn intentionally tried to end his career with a cheap shot attempt at his knees?

by RavensAreDaRealBrowns on Aug 31, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the Odds

That Brady is the QB when we play Denver? Wouldn’t that be an interesting twist of fate, especially if Suggs had opportunity to land a (legal) shot on Brady?

Heck, I could see a scenario where as Suggs is chasing the ball carrier out of bounds on the Denver sidelines he accidentally runs into ol’ number nine… kind of like that play I think I saw in a highlight of the Bronco-Steelers game where I think a Steeler player and coach, standing on the sideline, both got taken out…

by vlad755 on Aug 31, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say the odds are flirting with zero.

Brady Quinn looked like hot trash in the preseason while Tebow hasn’t been horrendous and has at least made a big play. If Orton went down, they’d probably start Tebow over Quinn. He just looks like the better quarterback.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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