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Ravens Dominate Redskins, 23-3

It was just a preseason game and the first stringers may not have played to the level most of us would have liked, but at the same time, there was just no way to deny that the Baltimore Ravens are a better team than the Washington Redskins, as the Ravens won the exhibition contest 23-3. One thing for sure is that the Ravens reserves are a lot, lot better than the Redskins, and other than an opening drive that ended in a field goal, Washington did not score another point the rest of the game.

Despite the concern that our defensive backs looked a bit lost out there and the gaps in coverage, especially over the middle to the tight end, the secondary came up big with interceptions to kill drives and enforced their "bend-but-don't-break" mentality from last season.

Noticeable on the broadcast was the obvious "homer" sentiment of the Redskins announcers, who constantly complained that the Ravens were holding and not getting called and at one point said that there wasn't a deeper group of safeties on any team in the NFL than the Washington Redskins. Laughable commentary, even with the understanding that the color guy was former Redskins great Joe Theisman.

Star-divide

While QB Joe Flacco did not overwhelm anyone with his performance, he was a respectable 9 of 16 for 72 yards and more importantly did not turn the ball over. Backup Marc Bulger was extremely efficient as I said in the 'Open Thread' comments, completing 13 of 16 for 130 yards and also no picks Interesting was that the combined 22 completions by both Flacco and Bulger went to 16 different receiver. However, four fumbles and losing two has to be improved upon, and the secondary, regardless of the winning effort still gave up over 400 yards of passing combined by Donovan McNabb and Rex Grossman.

The defense, despite the number of passing yards given up, limited the Redskins to just of handful of yards on the ground and zero first down by the run. They had four sacks and put decent pressure on the opposing QB's, but still need more disruption to cover the limitations of the secondary.

It was also great to see safety Haruki Nakamura get into the action, not only on defense, where he had a handful of hits and tackles, but made a great move on a fake punt for a 51 yard gain to the one yard line on the Ravens first TD drive, although he will probably get a bunch of ribbing from his teammates for not getting into the end zone.

Almost as impressive as the victory itself should be the level of confidence in the reserves on the Baltimore Ravens, as they proved the depth, in the receiving game and defensive front seven, can offer so many different looks to this already solid defense. The kicking game did not open up any gaps between the two kickers in the competition, as both Shayne Graham and Billy Cundiff made their attempts and punter Sam Koch killed the ball, averaging over 45 yards a punt.

While this was just another preseason game, it's good to know the Ravens can still dominate a game and while the offense needs to click a bit more efficiently and the defensive secondary needs to protect the middle of the passing lanes, the Ravens did win the "Battle of the Beltway" tonight and own bragging rights for another year in this so-called regional rivalry.

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Despite the concern that our defensive backs looked a bit lost out there…

Travis Fisher and the linebackers looked horrible in pass coverage.

The kicking game did not open up any gaps between the two kickers in the competition…

Speaking of kickers, how about that Graham Gano?

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 22, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

“Gano’s leg looked strong on that miss.” – Bruce

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gano was distracted by a passing pigeon
                                         - Washington Post

by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 22, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Secondary

I was ring to be nice, and besides still only gave up 3 points. As I’ve always said, the only defensive stat that really truly mtters is points allowed. Period.

As far as Gano, I knew that pigeon would get in his way! Not his fault!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 22, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Team looked pretty good.

Anytime you can hole a McNabb and Shannahan led offense to 3 points, you are doing a fine job. Couple notes.

- Secondary was getting beat up on a little bit, but I attribute most of those big plays to us sending 7-8 guys on the blitz and McNabb was hitting Moss on the quick slants. Cooley is a pro bowler, so him making big plays is what he does in this league. The secondary did get 2 interceptions, so that was good. Landry needs to stop playing so shallow, it seems like he is forgetting that Ed Reed is not back there to cover it deep. That is his job now.

- First team offense looked slow. Flacco looked slow, WR looked slow, RB looked slow. We all talk about this high powered offense but have yet to see anything special from them. Hopefully next week…

- Was impressed by Jameel McClain. He missed sometimes on coverage, but his tackling was very good. He looked the best of the fab 3, but add Phillips to that now.

- Great game from the back-ups all around. Obeast (new nickname for Cody) looked good. Talavou had some nice plays. Hamlin looked strong, had that nice int. Phillips made a bunch of plays, he could very well see some time with the starters next week and push Gooden and Ellerbe down a little bit.

- I just feel more comfortable with Cundiff. Not sure why, but I do. I gotta see Graham make a 50 yarder before I say he can win this job.

- Need more Boldin. Why are we not throwing it to him 3-4 times in a row? I know we all don’t want to see him locked onto like Mason has been, but lets get this guy the ball instead of launching it downfield to Williams.

- We need to take more shots downfield. All we talked about was how Stallworth is going to stretch the field. Has he even had the ball thrown to him over 10 yards? Cam Cameron needs to start running streaks, seams or whatever. Send Stallworth and someone else straight down the middle of the field and show us we can open it up. We are going to need some of those huge plays in order to keep up with the offenses who are going to torch our secondary some games.

- We won. Looked shitty in some places, but we won. Defense may have looked weak at times, but the main objective is to allow the least amount of points possible. We did that with only allowing 3 points. Don’t care if there were a shitload of yards. I will take 300 yards passed on us if it only means 3 points.

- Ravens 2-0 in preseason.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yea, get Harper the hell out of here. That guy may be worse than Clarence Moore. He is damn lucky that the fumble wasn’t called on him on that one play. It is not like the ball was loose or anything, he was just man handled and had it ripped out. Peace out Harper.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

- Need more Boldin. Why are we not throwing it to him 3-4 times in a row? I know we all don’t want to see him locked onto like Mason has been, but lets get this guy the ball instead of launching it downfield to Williams.

- We need to take more shots downfield. All we talked about was how Stallworth is going to stretch the field. Has he even had the ball thrown to him over 10 yards? Cam Cameron needs to start running streaks, seams or whatever. Send Stallworth and someone else straight down the middle of the field and show us we can open it up. We are going to need some of those huge plays in order to keep up with the offenses who are going to torch our secondary some games.

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, is it possible that Cameron and Harbaugh are intentionally keeping the offensive play calling very vanilla? Our first meaningful game is against a Jets team with a great defense; why give them game tape showing all our capabilities?

This could just be wishful thinking trying to rationalize a sluggish start for the offense, but when Boldin doesn’t get many looks and Stallworth isn’t stretching the field, it makes you wonder a little bit.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 22, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree somewhat. But don’t we want to work out some kinks? I’m not talking 7-8 passes thrown to Boldin in the first quarter, but give the guy more than 1 look. What can Rex get out of Boldin making 2 catches instead of 1?

With Stallworth, sure he has stretched the field in practice, but we need to see it in a game. How do we know he can do that against another team without seeing it first? Do you think that after 4 preseason games of not going deep to Stallworth once and not getting Boldin more looks, it is going to magically work against the best secondary in the league?

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bulger did throw a deep one to Stallworth in the game against Carolina, but I believe it was overthrown. What I’m hoping to see is a lot less of these pathetic end-arounds to Stallworth and Clayton. We have 3 potential Pro-Bowl caliber Rb’s, and running reverses? Give me a break.

Suggs is looking like he’s back to his old self. He was embarrassing the ‘skins offensive line. I still don’t know how McNabb held onto that ball, but that strip attempt by T-Sizzle was as textbook as it gets, keep ’em coming.

Flacco is still looking like a deer caught in the headlights when he gets down in the redzone. I love the guy, but when we have McGahee who has a nose for the endzone, why are we seeing Flacco throw on first downs inside the 20?

Agree with Malor on Boldin needing more looks. Whether or not we’re trying to keep breakout plays under the radar for the Jets game, the man deserves the ball. You’re not going to develop a game time chemistry by only hooking up with the guy in practices, throw him the damn ball.

All in all if was a fun game to watch (thanks for the heads up on the atdhe.net guys) but there’s obviously still a lot of things to work on. But hey, we’re 2-0 right?

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Aug 22, 2010 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But hey, we’re 2-0 right?

Only stat that matters.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only stat that matters.

That’s pretty ridiculous. I can’t think of a stat that matters less in the pre-season than the win-loss record.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 22, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

there have been plenty of good 2-2 and 1-3 teams in the preseason. 0-4 teams may be treading into the “your whole team sucks” category, but by and large, WL doesn’t matter in the preseason.

This is why I’m worried about the offense, and on defense about over-blitzing. The thing is, dropping our LBs back into coverage doesn’t seem to solve our woes either. And when we went with the 43 cover 2, they split it right between the safeties pretty well. There’s a reason Monte Kiffin modified that defense a bit…

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

…and on defense about over-blitzing.

I wouldn’t worry about overall schemes and trends too much in the pre-season. The coaches don’t go into these games with the mentality that they need the win; they’re going to be focused on answering questions. If Mattison is dialing up an excessive number of blitzes in the summer, it may be because he’s trying out personnel packages or whatever. This isn’t to say that this problem won’t show up in the regular season, but I wouldn’t look too deeply into an issue like this just yet.

…dropping our LBs back into coverage doesn’t seem to solve our woes either. And when we went with the 43 cover 2, they split it right between the safeties pretty well.

I’m under the impression that the modern Cover 2 scheme is technically a Cover 3, with the ILB having the responsibility to cover the area between the safeties. If I’m correct, that’s just more fuel for the backers-can’t-cover fire, which I think is something about which we should be worried.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 22, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m under the impression that the modern Cover 2 scheme is technically a Cover 3, with the ILB having the responsibility to cover the area between the safeties.

That’s the Tampa-2 Scheme that I referred to by mentioning Kiffin. Chicago runs it, as does Indy and many other teams. We didn’t seem to do that very much last night. That’s why there was that fatal flaw between the safeties that Kiffin’s scheme was designed to compensate for.

You’re probably right that none of this is anything too much to worry about, but I can never feel totally comfortable when I see our guys getting plain beat.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

…none of this is anything too much to worry about…

I didn’t say not to worry about any of it. I’m as worried about our linebackers’ lack of pass protection as anybody else. It’d be one thing if we were trying to find the right combination of ILB’s to put in for certain situations, but they’re all bad at covering the pass.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 22, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

no...

see, what you’re supposed to say is “don’t worry, we’ll get 10 INTs from the LBs once they get settled in.”

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be nice

To have BA come back soon. He was probably our best LB in coverage last season before he got hurt.

by DT711 on Aug 22, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. I’ve heard speculation, though, that he might not even make the team because of his injury and our LB depth.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 22, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

bummer

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

One scheme I would like to see us experiment with a little is the 46-bear defense. I think we have the perfect players for that. Not all of the time of course, I just think it would be interesting to see how we would fare with it.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

we did with Rex Ryan. It wasn’t spectacular.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Dawan Landry would excel at LB in that scheme because he is a hard hitter. Because in the 46-Bear isn’t the SS moved to OLB?

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

kindof. You might consider him a Linebacker, but Buddy Ryan still called Doug Plank a safety, and that’s where the number “46” comes from.

This is from wikipedia:

Currently, the 46 is rarely used in professional and college football (with the exception of the New York Jets, who are coached by Rex Ryan, Buddy’s son). This is largely because of the popularity of the West Coast Offense, used successfully by San Francisco 49ers head coach Bill Walsh, and other offensive schemes that rely on short, timed passes from formations with multiple receivers.
A major weakness of the 46 is that too many defensive players line up near the line of scrimmage to blitz, leaving areas wide open for receivers to catch passes. Also short, timed passes can be thrown before the players blitzing have a chance to reach the quarterback. Another problem is that most teams do not have enough impact players to run the 46 as effectively as the 1980s Bears did. Those teams fielded some of the best front-seven defenses ever, and included such players as Mike Singletary, Richard Dent, Dan Hampton, and Wilber Marshall.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds perfect for goal-line situations.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone already has a goal-line package that has different personnel that can match up with jumbo sets.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Pitta also look great?

After Dickson looked so good last week, it’s nice to see that the other rookie TE has got it going.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 22, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we used Heap in a trade, that might benefit this team.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

honestly, yeah

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'd get nothing from Heap now

He’s an older TE with injury history and not a great recent resume and makes way too much. Unfortunate but true.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 23, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah youre rigth

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 23, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually yes. Heap is slow and doesn’t have that athletic ability to jump for the ball. And Pitta and Dickson both had great careers in their respective college careers, and probably would contribute right away. Besides we need a corner, and if we got rid of someone who isn’t contributing (Anymore at least) to help the team, I don’t think anyone would have a problem with that.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fabian is back. Harbaugh is waiting on Webb to get cleared (soon). Cary Williams is starting to blaze. I dont think we need to trade for a corner. Webb will maybe be cleared this week, but may not play until the last preseason game. Fabian+Webb+Carr+Fisher+Miller=Decent

by Raven_all_day on Aug 22, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well from seeing so many articles about Heap looking like

his pro bowl form in training camp really doesnt seem to say he slow or have non althletic ability. I think people really need to chill out with the trade this player or this player attitude for a cornerback its really getting old. The Ravens could get a really good cornerback but that does not mean he will be automatic force on for the defense for example we could get darelle revis today that does not mean his shutdown cornerback skills will be a full force in a game, he still has to learn the playbook and it doesn’t take a day to learn it

by jazz20 on Aug 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heap made some amazing grabs in camp, but

yes he is slow getting into his pattern and gets zer YAC as he puts his head down and gets bowled over every time. Dickson and Pitta are crazy open field runners with speed as well as bulk.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because teams don't

start a rookie over an incumbent starter, especially not a 3rd and 4th round pick, even more due to the difference in salary. At least not until some actual game film dictates such a move to be necessary. Give it a few weeks of regular season play, and I’m willing to bet we’ll see at the very least a very balanced rotation, if not more snaps (than Heap) for the rookies.

"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."

by organizedchaos52 on Aug 26, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure confidence would be the exact word, but I think between the two of them we could easily see similar production that Heap gives us.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 23, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its just the preseason game Malor and in the preaseason most teams keep their

plays basic not going all out like its the superbowl. The Ravens Offense were a little low but they still won the game basicly from the Defense and Special team; Last year the Offense wasnt too super in the preaseason but they still won games

by jazz20 on Aug 22, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

most teams keep their plays basic not going all out like its the superbowl.

Is that why we ran two reverses and a fake punt? Doesn’t seem so basic to me.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 22, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t you heard, reverses and fake punts are now the staple of our offense.

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Aug 22, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we are using those playsdo attract attention elsewhere from the real plays we will use this season. We won’t actually use those plays in the regular season, they are too risky.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt clayton usually do those in regular season

by Raven_all_day on Aug 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did an end-around a couple of time.

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by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

and we’ve faked both punts and field goals in the regular season. So i’m not sure why we would run such a play in the preseason…

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because teams already know it’s in our arsenal, so technically there is no “Concealing” it.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Ruki is the up-back on every punt, then it’s fine. If not, then any time you see Ruki in there, you know he’s getting the ball.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

We rn those trick plays

to make teams think about it and then run our other packages that they wasted time ignoring while they were gameplanning for the ones we will rarely use! Trust me, the coahces are so much smarter than we will ever be.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep telling myself that. I know it’s true but I can’t hide the backseat driver in me.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 23, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harbuagh made it clear that they were going to run some basic packages on offense during the preseason.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 22, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keyword: some

"Me no function beer welll without."

by StuckInUtah on Aug 22, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its preseason, why is everyone trippin’. I guess we should show everyone what we have in the arsenal.

by Raven_all_day on Aug 22, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they just disappointed becuase they want to have that wow

factor in every preseason game seeing Joe Flacco throwing for 300 yards and Boldin having many touchdowns

by jazz20 on Aug 22, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t think many people expect 300-yard offense from any QBs in the preseason. I would like to see some rhythm however, and from Flacco I didn’t see that.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco always seems to start games slow. It’s the preseason, nothing to worry about.

by BmoreBlitz on Aug 23, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’m not sprouting grey hair or anything, but it is clear that Flacco-to-Boldin is a work in progress

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco to anyone outside Mason is a work in progress.

by raven on Aug 23, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

In addition to this...

David Reed stepped it up and is back in the hunt for the 5th WR spot.

by 60minuteassassin on Aug 22, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m all for Cundiff winning the job at this point. He has a little more leg.

Did anyone else notice Oher jumping early on nearly every snap? He may have beat it by a split second every time, but man, it was close. Harewood, my boy, was holding quite a bit, but if you can hold and consistently get away with it, meh. Other than that he looked really strong physically.

I was really pulling for Marcus Smith, our “most improved Raven” from last year before the ACL injury. He caught I think one or two passes. I really think he’s missed the window young players usually get, and with David Reed playing like an animal, Smith may be a practice squad lifer.

I forgot Cody existed until I saw him later in the game. He was a considerably less impactful this week than last.

by Keith R on Aug 22, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t exactly think you can claim Harewood as your boy. There’s about 80% of Ravens fans you have to fight with for that right.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, well do other fans have R.H. tattooed above their buttcheeks. How far do you want to go?

by Keith R on Aug 22, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you ain’t got shit on most Ravens fan. They all have RH tattooed on their Scrotum.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw the Oher snaps as well

All last season that was his biggest learning curve and I guess he’s just trying to get a quicker start. Expect false starts from him just like you’ll continue to have Suggs line up offsides again and again!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 23, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

does a henna tattoo count? am I still H-core?

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 22, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The better question is, why do you have a Ramon Harewood tramp-stamp?

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by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I take it to the limit.

by Keith R on Aug 23, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

LIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

walk along the razor’s edge, don’t look down just keep your head and you can WIN IT!!

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 23, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody given garbage time. Cody is a starter. How can you keep a beast like that caged. Not a lot of form in that position. Just bulldoze.

by raven on Aug 23, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Koch?

"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."

by organizedchaos52 on Aug 22, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

No. Sam Koch. ;)

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by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea

what you’re talking about. ;)

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 22, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey MaLoR how did your broadcast go?

Any word back yet on if you got the job?

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by Zachary Beard on Aug 22, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

What I Noticed

Harper is done -stick a fork in him.

Much improved pass rush -Suggs looks like he is ready to blow up in a good way. Also, Suggs did not sacrifice any run support for pass rush which is a great sign.

OL, for the most part did okay -no worries yet; and can only get better if Gaither ever makes it back -not sure he will for any number of reasons.

Clayton is not giving up the #3 receiver spot without a fight, which is great.

McNabb is going to pick the best defenses apart -a fact of life. Cooley is an All-Pro and Santana Moss is no slouch either. Clinton Portis still has some gas left in the tank. Outside of that, the deadskins did nothing on offense. Three points? That is it?

Bulger looked good because his 2’s that he was throwing to were vastly better than the deadskin 2’s trying to defend them…

Ravens offense and defense gameplans were obviously very plain vanilla. They threw a few wrinkles in on offense to give other teams something else to think about when they prepare for us during the regular season: the fake punt, some different play-action from Flacco, the end arounds, etc.

Pitta is the real deal and the heir apparent to Heap; call him heap 2.0…

Maybe Ruki should be returning some kicks also…

Ball security is a major issue that needs to be fixed ASAP.

And finally, and arguably most importantly (after no injuries), nary a penalty called-! Who da thunk it? I guess with Frank gone, refs do not recognize the Ravens… O-Line better watch it, though. I doubt they get away with that many blatant holds during the regular season.

Be interesting to see who besides Harper gets cut this week…

by vlad755 on Aug 23, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitta is the real deal and the heir apparent to Heap; call him heap 2.0

I’m still a Dickson guy.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 23, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are both going to bring some great things to this offense. I honestly am comfortable with either of them.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 23, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word
I’m still a Dickson guy.

by DT711 on Aug 24, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thoughts. but, flacco is a stiff. i know we need to ralley around our “youngster” but i’m not sure you can improve quickness. he is so boringly deliberate it reduces his strong throws to average passes. he takes bad sacks. his idea of escaping a sack is to step up 1 foot and fall. i think cam is killing the guy by not letting him go deep like big armed guys need to do. cam is sooo tight he takes away from the talent on the field. but, in cams defense, flacco locks onto his deep receiver and throws it regardless of the coverage. there is no second read for flacco unless its a rb.

by raven on Aug 23, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Have Always

Kind of scratched my head at most of your comments, but this one, I kind of half to agree to somewhat that whatever weaknesses there are in Flacco’s passing game, the fault probably lies on both Flacco himself and also on Cam for the reasons you state, for both of them. Let us face it: this is still only the third year for the 1) HC, 2) OC, 3) QB, 4) #1 RB -that is a huge chunk of the offense. Should they be further along as a group going into their third season together? I think that reasonable argument can be made, but remember this, up until about a week before the first game of Season 1, Flacco was suppose to be the clipboard holder. He all of a sudden became “The Guy” almost literally overnight -a huge challenge to overcome.

But I think it is still a learning process for both Cam and Flacco. What I will look for the most, besides wins and scoring, is, are Flacco specifically and to a lesser extent the offense (Cam) in general improving as the year progresses? If Flacco and the offense regress this year, then that is a big problem.

by vlad755 on Aug 24, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been saying over the last 2 weeks that the offense looks slow and it is because of Joe. His drop back is slow, his release is slow and the guy throws off his back foot more than anyone in the league. He really needs to sit down and watch Peyton Manning for hours. You will never see one Manning pass off his back foot. Those are the passes you pray are caught, Manning doesn’t do that.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 24, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it worries me that we’re saying this now, 3 years in. But here we are…

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 24, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst part is that we have been saying it since 2008. I find it very hard to believe that Cam and Zorn have not noticed nor fixed this yet. Back foot throws have interception written all over them.

I have said this before, but Joe needs to watch this over, and over, and over again. It cannot get any better than what he did in this video right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktWwRkuEVKs&feature=search

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 24, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. This honestly is what worries me the most this season. We know what to expect from the rest of our team—even the secondary I think. What we NEED to see happen is for Flacco to take the next step and become a truly dangerous passer. He’s shown flashes of it before, but its time for this to be a weekly occurrence.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You all have given me something to look for next week. I thought they were calling conservative plays for him, but hey, Cam did that all last season. raven actually makes sense this time around. Normally, his comments remind me of something I’d say after 10-or-so beers.

Zorn’s presence is kind of a big deal. He was a good QB and has a track record as a coach I’m sure everyone here knows about. I actually have faith in Zorn. These Qb issues must be addressed. Joe is really good, that’s why we drafted him. It’s only a matter of time, but like jackmca said, it’s year 3, here we are.

I am uncharacteristically worried now. Thank you raven.

by Keith R on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

word to muhva

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 23, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta keep Pitta and Dickson. heap should get traded with clayton, gregg and troy for a good DB. not sure that whole package could get a decent DB.

by raven on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

not sure there’s a team who would need all 3 of those guys enough to give us a good DB

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Aug 24, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

4 for 1 trades rarely if never go down in the NFL.

by DT711 on Aug 24, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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