Ravens vs Panthers Recap
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 13, 2010 2:46 AM EDT
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PrintOn a rainy night in downtown Baltimore, the Ravens were able to come away with a 17-12 victory over the Carolina Panthers in the first preseason game of the season. With high expectations of what the result would be of a busy off season, the Ravens looked to make a statement on how they want to play football this year while starting the process of filling the remaining roster spots. A view quick notes from tonight's game.
- The offense came out passing right away. Cam Cameron and Joe Flacco worked the play action pass all throughout the first quarter, moving the ball fairly well all over the field. Joe was impressive with his ability to not lock on to certain targets during the first half and spread the ball to different areas. Flacco's stat line of 8/12 120 yards and 1 TD was a nice performance. Marc Bulger started off slow, but picked up with leading the offense on a long drive in the 1st half. 3rd backup Troy Smith had a rough time staying on his feet and did not complete too many passes, but was able to score the touchdown that gave Baltimore a comfortable lead.
- The run game started to pick up late, mostly in the 2nd half where rookie Curtis Steeler led all RB with 10 carries for 32 yards, including a run of 20 yards. Jalen Paramle put the ball on the ground once which was recovered by Carolina, as well as did Steele. LeRon McClain was seen as the main ball carrier in the 1st few series. No looks at Ray Rice tonight, but coach Harbaugh said that it was not a priority to get Rice time tonight.
- Not too much passing tonight, so there were few standouts at WR. Clayton is the obvious choice for his touchdown catch in the 2nd quarter from Flacco. This is something we have seen Clayton do in the past and it shows we can still rely on Mark for these types of plays. Impressed with the play of rookie TE Ed Dickson as he had 2 big catches for us tonight that were part of a long drive by the offense. Boldin was quiet with having only 1 catch for 12 yards, but that was expected.
- O-Line play was off and on throughout most of the game, but the first team did a fairly good job. Oher was beat on one play for a sack, but was showing progress at his new position of left tackle.
- Pass rush was exceptional tonight. Greg Mattison brought the pressure from all angles which caused alot of problems for the Carolina quarterbacks. Antwan Barnes was particularly strong tonight where there were 6-7 times that Barnes beat his man and forced an early throw. The strong blitz was able to contribute 7 sacks to a good defensive performance.
- Individually, Terrence Cody was a man against the Panthers, beating numerous double teams and causing havoc in the backfield multiple times. It really showed tonight just how strong and quick Cody can be on certain plays and poor Jimmy Clausen was scared for his life back there. Did Mount Cody really lineup at fullback? Yes, he did.
- Secondary was quietly effective tonight during a game where the conditions made it tough to pass. Was impressive to see the discipline of our DB's where the group was able to break up a few key passes. The ball stayed in front of them the whole time and never got over their heads, something Baltimore had a rough time doing last season. CB's Cary Williams and Prince Miller were strong throughout. Williams had a nice hit late in the game and an interception while Miller recorded 3 tackles and 2 pass deflections.
- Special Teams was one of the strongest factors in the win over the Panthers. Both kickers were strong on kickoffs and coverage on both punts and kicks was solid as well. Shayne Graham missed a 50 yard field goal in the game while Cundiff was not able to get a shot at any. Return of the night goes to rookie UFA cornerback Prince Miller who has a very nice 57 return which set up the touchdown a few plays later.
When all factors of the team play well and together, a victory will happen for us. The game against Carolina was an example of that and Baltimore was able to take alot of good things out of this game. Continue the discussion with your thoughts for the time being.
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it sucks that cary williams is supeneded for two games but he did good in the preseason
game and prince miller look good to esspecially when he return the punt for almost a touchdown I think he going to make the team for sure
I can’t say enough about how impressed I was with Cary Williams.
He took the starting opportunity and ran with it. He played with excellent technique and was locking his man down all night. The fade route defense against Brandon LaFell in the end-zone was very impressive. If he hadn’t gotten his hand on that ball, that would have been a TD.
The interception was a little lucky since his man fell down, but he was in perfect position on that play. Really, he was playing near-perfect coverage all night. I’m very, very impressed with him. His body and playing style remind me of DRC. I know that’s high praise, but in a secondary that desperately needs someone to step up, I don’t think Williams could have played any better.
Samari didnt used to tackle at all, well i guess neither does DRC
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
did anyone else see cody’s great play in the first quarter? he took on a panther O-lineman with his left arm, and tackled the runningback for a loss with his right. it made me so happy
Yea that was there starting center who got pushed away with one arm.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Cody was the freaking man last night. Man, we all knew what he could do and he showed it last night. His pressure was unbelievable and some of his tackles were on key plays.
Him lining up at FB should tell just how highly the coaches think of Cody.
Him lining up at FB should tell just how highly the coaches think of Cody.
I was a little surprised to see them do that during the pre-season.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
He seemed to play a good number of snaps. Hasn’t that one of the question marks on him? I remember seeing him chasing a Panther quarterback at one point… he ain’t no Usain Bolt lol. I can’t wait to see him flatten a quarterback/ball carrier at one point this season.
"Cody was the freaking man last night."
I have to admit I was impressed with Cody’s performance last night. It was comical at first but got serious real quick!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
i just wanted to say
Yes, finally football season is on again. I know its only preseason, but theres nothing like watching a game
on the note of cody play fullback
i hope that just because of the missed block and then false start they don’t abandon giving it another go. I feel like it could be something that could be very successful with practice
It is very successful
to my knowledge it worked everytime he lined up at FB in college. Funny Story, he use to bug Saban about getting the handoff on the that play. Saban told him he had to outrun him (Saban). Needless to say he never got a handoff.
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
its seems both Troy Smith and Marc Bulger didnt have a good day in preseason
atleast Troy Smith score a touchdown and got few completion
Bulger was really the only one who got the ball to stallwortha few times, and was moving the ball a bit. Troy looked horrible out the there
I left the bar before Smith came in, but all I’ve heard since then is that he looked really bad.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Yeah, I was incorrect about Smith being the back-up. Bulger looked like a deer in headlights at first, but Smith looked like he can only run the Wildcat offense with no passing involved. I’m not sure he can read defenses. Bulger at least can make those quick short passes.
It didn't help
that nearly every play there were 2-3 Panthers running straight past that horrible offensive line and right at him…dude didn’t have a chance on quite a few plays
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
well you would look horrible to if your offensive linemen wasnt protecting you to give you
enough time to throw
Roethlisberger makes it work. I thought the huge benefit of having Smith in at QB was that he he’s mobile.
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He ran the ball up the middle on a draw. Cam Cameron could have walked that one in. I think Smith has a very long pre-season ahead of him.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-ravens/09000d5d819b56f0/Pre-WK-1-Smith-8-yard-TD-run
I think Smith has a very long pre-season ahead of him.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
man im not trying to hear that he got a touchdown im happy with that
running up the middle is not easy all the time the offensive linemen have to make space for the player with right blocks.
I saw that play coming a mile away…
Cam called the same play in the 2008 playoffs versus the Dolphins.
by BAL_Hawk on Aug 14, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ben is special talent though and not necessarily the norm to judge other quarterbacks by as far as his “escapability” goes..
by 60minuteassassin on Aug 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Cousins
did a solid job. Oher had a tough time against Brayton. They said it was some miss communications with him and Grubbs.
I loved the way Kruger played. He looks big and fast. Wait till he gets some moves down and he’ll be a force.
Kruger tied for first on the team with 1.5 sacks. He showed great motor, and he’s only going to get better.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Stoney Case
used to dominate backups in the preseason too…
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not anointing Kruger the next DPoY. He’s playing at 275lbs. (up from 255lbs. last year) for the first time, and he did well with the opportunity he had. I think he has a chance to make a much bigger impact on our defense this year than he did last year.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
I just want
to temper enthusiasm with some realism. I will be more than happy to see Kruger come in during the regular season, pressure the QB, stop the run and get 5 sacks or so.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Should there be buzzing
after the 1st preseason game?
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm excited about football.
I’m excited about this team. I’m excited about our chances. That doesn’t make me think that Kruger’s play is going to continue once the preseason ends. I apologize, I stepped in here and shot down praise for Kruger. All I should have done is brought up the level of competition, not snark about dominating backups.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
As a peace offering,
can I express my excitement in actually having a pass rush this year? And all the pressure we got, even though Suggs wasn’t around for very long? If that continues, we can throw DeRon Jenkins and Ronnie Prude in there to play CB, and it won’t matter.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
barnes looks so nasty
what if he steals JJs job?
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Don't think he would out right steal the job
JJ is much more of a complete LB. I could see JJ moving to ILB or DE on passing downs to make room for Barnes.
We should unleash Barnes on the QB every play. Give him “The Waterboy” pep talk. Go after the QB, if he gives the ball off to somebody else, tackle that guy. That is your one and only job.
for real though
that’s all freeney and mathis do in Indy. “stop the run on your way to the QB.” they pin their ears back on every play
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
I think
blades for fingers may have made Case a worse QB, if possible.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
O-Line play was off and on throughout most of the game, but the first team did a fairly good job. Oher was beat on one play for a sack, but was showing progress at his new position of left tackle.
http://www.ravens24x7.com/columns/Inside-The-Ravens-With-Aaron-Wilson/Ravens-win-preseason-opener
Pass protection was definitely an issue as left offensive tackle Michael Oher was beaten twice by defensive end Tyler Brayton for sacks.
“We have to pass protect better than we did in the first half,” offensive coordinator Cam Cameron said.
Emphasis added. Even our starting offensive line was more off than on. Oher looked just as lost in this game as he did last year at left tackle. He lucked out when Brayton was injured. It looks like Gaither is going to be an important part of our offensive line this season; that, or Flacco’s going to frequently be on his back again. At this point, I’ll take a one-armed Gaither (a la 2008) manning the left side over Oher.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Tyler Brayton isn’t exactly a sack machine, and he made Oher look pretty bad.
Personally, I’m really looking forward to Flacco taking a huge step forward this year. Moreover, I can’t wait to see how well he does in the playoffs with experience and health on his side. When our “Left Tackle of the Future” can’t keep Flacco off the ground, it’s a pretty big downer for me. The worst thing that could happen is for Flacco to go into the playoffs injured; I’m tired of hearing from every ignorant fan out there how much Flacco sucks it up in the playoffs.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Thanks MaLoR
I like this system Me and Bruce maybe opening Gamethreads, and you and Bal_Hawk doing re-caps. This is great quality.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
My thoughts...
I think Oher will be alright, although he, along with the whole line, was shaky at times. Cousins on the other hand did not impress me, and I don’t think he’ll be alright if he has to start. It looks like they had to give him TE help for a while, after the ugly second (I believe) drive. I’ve been advocating the Ravens giving Yanda reps at RT, and plugging Chester in at RG, if Gaither is not ready to go. I’m not comfortable with Oniel opening the year at RT, for now.
I was impressed with Cary Williams and Travis Fisher. They performed to or above my expectations, although they weren’t going up against a prolific pass offense, by any stretch.
Flacco looked solid, and its obvious to anyone who watches the Ravens that he is healthy now, and was clearly banged up the second half of last year. He has great feet for a guy his size. All of those clowns who come on here posting about how immobile Joe is (just because they saw one playoff game last year), are really clueless.
At least one time I saw Joe throw off his back foot, not stepping into his throw like he should. Of course the throw sailed wide out of bounds. Zorn needs to be sure to keep Flacco from getting into bad habits like this; Joe has such a strong arm he can often times get away with it, but its still something he needs to avoid doing.
Bulger looked rough at first but came on a little to lead a solid drive. Troy looked shit, but in his defense, he had to play in awful conditions, and really had no chance of airing it out consistently.
What a return by Prince Miller. Nothing else to really say .
It was nice the Pain Train McClain get some carries. He looked great carrying the ball and could be a starter (in a RBBC) at RB or FB for any team. I was glad we didn’t use Rice much; we all know what he can do, and there was no reason to risk injury.
Mark Clayton looked great, which was not surprising. I can’t believe how many people have said hes a bum and wanted Williams over him. He has been a disappointment for where he was drafted but hes still a solid player in this league. He has very good hands, is pretty shifty and has a solid football IQ, most likely a result of being a HS QB (as was Boldin). I think most of the anti Clayton bandwagon will calm down after that showing. Also, he helped his trade value in case any teams are looking.
Jameel McClain did not look good and needs to improve shedding blockers. Ellerbe and Gooden didn’t really impress either. Someone needs to step up. I’m still of the thought that it will be Ellerbe once the season gets going. Hes the only guy we have who is somewhat proven next to Ray.
Billy was crushing the ball on kickoffs, which was great to see.
All in all, a solid showing, being the first pre season game, played in crap weather at that.
by DT711 on Aug 13, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Oher will be fine too. He didn’t have that swagger he had last year though(maybe because it was preseason). I’d like to see him talking some shit.
Prince Miller could be our next Jermaine Lewis. Zibby also looked good returning kicks. Clayton tried to dance too much on his chance.
I don’t want to trade McGahee. If we have to give up somebody for a corner, I hope it’s a WR.
All of our skill players I was very happy with. We look stacked this year!
That return Miller had just gave him another look. Those types of plays are what make and break your chances of being on this team, and Miller is definitely going in the right direction now. There is a reason he was brought to training camp and we cut those other DB’s in OTA’s.
Like when Terrell Davis crushed a guy in the pre-season opener kick-off for the Broncos. He went on to have a HoF career.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 13, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That was in the second preseason game in 95’, not the opener.
I would not compare Price Miller to TD. You’ve seen that commercial too many times.
That and I saw it live on TV
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 13, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Not distinctly, but I know I watched it. Because I get a sense of Deja Vue everytime I see the commercial.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 13, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
HoF career?
He’s not in yet, is he? I also don’t believe he should get in, but then again, I barely saw him play.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He got 60 TDs and 7500+ yards in only 6 seasons. (His career was ended early by an injury) And he went to 3 pro-bowls, won 2 super bowls, and League voted MVP once. And he had a 2000 yard season. He should be in the Hall of Fame.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And then
was replaced by the rotating 1000 yard rushing attack that was the Denver Broncos zone blocking scheme under Mike Shanahan. Including Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Reuben Droughns, Tatum Bell. But like I said, I watched maybe 2 games with TD in them, one being the first game I ever watched and truly understood (Pack-Broncos), the other being the SB the next year.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
he was easily the most dominant running back i’ve ever watched for about 4 years. LT in his prime comes close. barry Sanders is also nothing to sneeze at. But for about 4 years, you could set your watch to TD leading the league in Rushing. He was incredible.
But he didn’t do it for quite long enough. IMO, you can’t give it to a guy for 6 seasons, even if for 4 of those you’re one of the best running backs anyone has ever seen. And the fact that the broncos continued to run the ball dominantly after he left also puts a question mark on his resume.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Billy was crushing the ball on kickoffs, which was great to see.
That really stuck out for me. Wasn’t he regularly missing the end zone last year?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
You nailed it
I’m in complete agreement with everything said DT711.
If Ellerbe doesn't play better,
I don’t think he starts. He looked terrible yesterday, IMO.
"Believe me, I know the save rule and, quite frankly, it doesn’t carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better."
by organizedchaos52 on Aug 13, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
He did not look good. I just get the impression that he will step it up when it really matters, that is, if no one seizes the job by then.
Thoughts on the new turf?
Players from both sides seemed to have some trouble keeping their feet under them, even before it started raining. Maybe I’m only noticing it because I knew it was new turf and I may have been looking for it.
I’m sure it will take some time to get used to, but keep in mind that it was raining all day here in Baltimore yesterday so the field was already very wet.
Yeah, I wasn’t too sure how wet the field was in the first place either. It’s been a looong offseason.
I don't know though
Isn’t that one of the big things all these stadium-types claim when a new field is “needed” – that it is (or will be) engineered to drain so well that Noah could have just brought the animals in there and forgot about the ark?
We had rain at about 4AM and then no more real rain until well into the game – and they seemed to be slipping around way too much to me for a “well draining field”.
by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 13, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree about the rain
I live two miles from M&T and it rained where I was, off and on, for about an hour starting 5:30pm or so.
I live in Canton
so, about a mile across the harbor and I didn’t see any appreciable rain at all until, literally, the announcers said it’s raining and I got up to look outside and noticed a light shower.
But, giving the benefit of the doubt, even if it rained continuously from 5:30 onward, the field shouldn’t have been that slippery, imo. It’s the problem of the plastic they use to make the fake grass – it’s still plastic – so it doesn’t absorb any of the moisture, it just holds it on the surface and becomes slippery. And if the field isn’t draining well, then, the water has nowhere to go but to sit on the surface of the “grass”.
by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 13, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, who knows about the rain
But I think it can take players a few games to figure out the best kind of footwear to use on a new surface, especially when its wet.
Dom Foxworth had all kinds of issues slipping on the turf over the first few games last season, but either adjusted or found the proper cleats/turf shoes to wear.
Well, you know
The team has all kinds of specific experts – trainers, nutritionists etc. You’d think they’d get a couple of guys from FootLocker to study and recommend the right shoe for a given weather condition LOL
by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 13, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN is just garbage
I thought maybe I’d get to see a couple of these key plays being discussed in action. You’d THINK that Cody playing fullback or Clayton’s TD would end up on the highlight reel they show. Nooooope. Instead they harp on sucky Carolina QBs and their LT. Sportscenter’s packaging is awful. God forbid you want to have any accurate idea of how a game played out. Disney-owned BS.
What I found funny is that NFL Network last night after the games talks about the Saints Pats game for 15 minutes, the Cowboys Raiders game for 15 minutes, then goes to Favre watch, then Urlacher interviews and THEN Ravens Panthers highlights for about 90 seconds.
"and THEN Ravens Panthers highlights for about 90 seconds."
I do not comprehend how in our 24 news cycle cable TV landscape how there isn’t enough time for good, long football recaps anywhere on TV. It’s insane! Why can’t we have a show that gives every game a solid 5 minutes? Yet there’s favre watch for 20 minutes of EVERY hour. It boggles the mind.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
They started off last nights NFL Total Access with the Cowboys and Patriots highlights, which took up about 20 minutes together. They then moved to Favre watch like we have no idea what is going on AND THEN moved onto Brian Urlacher to discuss something that went down about 6 months ago. Towards the end of the episode is where they found 90 seconds to discuss the Ravens.
and it'll happen throughout the season too
there’s so much time to fill, that’s what I don’t get.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
My take on it
is that it’s not just limited to sports, or whatever your particular interest is. We, as a culture have been “programmed” over the last 30 years or so to have shorter and shorter attention spans (thanx MTv!!). So, programmers, pretty rightly, just assume that no one will sit still for a minute, much less 5, to pay attention to an in-depth report about anything. People want the “Hot NEWS!!”… NOW!!!!!! And if there isn’t any, or what there is isn’t something you can chop down to a 30 second soundbite, there’s no reason to worry about it.
Also, from a marketing POV, it’s also a fair assumption that ESPN programs/allocates their airtime based on market size of the cities being talked about. Boston, Dallas, Chicago (Urlacher) and Minnesota/St. Paul are all bigger markets than Balto or Jacksonville.
by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 13, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
Charlotte – not Jacksonville
by GrumpyOldBird on Aug 13, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Once we have another good season maybe they will respect us. We should be happy though, we had the first televised preseason game, i cant even find the redskins vs Bills game.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
BSPN has an agenda
That does not include coverage of the non-sexy teams. They only want to discuss the Vikings, Patriots, Cowboys,Saints and Colts. The rest of the league is fortunate to be mentioned at BSPN. I don’t even watch NFL Live anymore. They do so little with so much.
I love how on NFL Live Cris Carter and Keyshawn Johnson HATE the Ravens. Ever since Derrick Mason shit on them for being old and not playing anymore, they have always had it out for us. They had the nerve to both agree that Cinci is going to run through this division and that we will squeak into the playoffs.
"They had the nerve to both agree that Cinci is going to run through this division and that we will squeak into the playoffs."
That’s a beat opinion
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
yeah i loved that
“Keyshawn Johnson is the bum, that’s why he’s in the analyst seat,” said Mason after catching four passes for 47 yards against Kansas City. "He tried to come back to football but no one would sign him. He was never that good a player. He got lucky and signed on in Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl because they had a great defense.
“Just look at the two people doing the criticizing, that’s all I’m saying. Keyshawn was overrated and Carter is in the same boat I’m in. He doesn’t have a Super Bowl ring either. He’s in the analyst seat without a ring. At least I’m playing. He still wants to play but he can’t anymore. We’re the bums? That’s why you’re in the analyst seat. Just be quiet and keep dreaming you still could play.”
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Yea
Love a guy who’s not afraid to speak truth to power. I’ve never respected Meshawn Johnson. The guy was a coach killer and an overrrated player in my opinion. As great as Carter was as a player he never played in a Super Bowl. I see the snide comments that come from both in print. Both are empty suits as far as I’m concerned.
dan i didnt know he said that. lol yea they not ever going to show us some love.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe they sent Keydummy home
and paid him for not playing the year Tampa won…he and carter are both goofs,thank God,Ditka and Jackson know a good team when they see one
"When all factors of the team play well and together, a victory will happen for us."
There were lots of good and bad moments for both teams in the game. However, to make a point to say you all got a victory is a little irrelevant, ‘cause everyone in the world knows that was pass interference on Gettis during that 3rd down play right at the end of the game. If that had been completed for a first down deep in your territory, Carolina could’ve won it. I don’t care who wins preseason games, but I think it’s noteworthy that Carolina could’ve beaten one of the most favored teams to win the Super Bowl this year.
I don’t think either team really played better than the other. I do think a lot of calls went your way though. Gross got called for holding on a long pass play early on that clearly was not holding. I don’t know whether your receiver pushed our defensive back in his back and knocked him down on that long TD or not, but he did have both his hands on his back. So, I think both our teams have a lot of work to do.
stuff 'bout stuff.
You guys don’t have the talent we do. That sounds like shit talk now, but you’ll realise it when we play during the regular season.
Good luck this year. Clausen looks like he has a future in this league. He should be starting by the end of the year.
We will see who is better when the same recievers plus one is going against Ed Reed+ 2 starting corners+ Cody&Ngata+ Suggs&Barnes+ Ray Rice= a long game for the panthers
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Carolina was down 11 players, 10 of which are expected to be back at the start of the season.
DeAngelo Williams was picking up some nice gains, and Jonathan Stewart didn’t even play. Steve Smith was out, as was our biggest run blocking lineman. Our best secondary player, Gamble, was also out. Both teams had good players out. I think both teams have a lot of talent.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 13, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i feel u but....
You guys were down 11 players and really wasnt too effective last year anyway. We are missing Ed Reed, starting right tackle that is arguably the top 5 of right tackles, and two starting corners. Do you see why I have a hard time accepting the fact that yaw will get the victory.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
No, not really.
I think you all have more depth and overall talent, but only 11 players can be on the field at one time. I think Carolina’s 11 can match up with any 11 in the league and give it a good shot.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok man u can have it. We will have this conversation again in a couple of months.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 14, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if your pro bowl LT Jordan Gross didn’t take away two huge passes because he was getting destroyed by our backup OLB, you might have won the game.
Worry about your own mistakes losing the game for you last year before ours guy.
Again, one of them was clearly not holding.
Gross dove at the guy and slammed him in the side with his shoulder. It’s impossible to hold someone doing that. I’m not sure what the official was looking at, but it’s the preseason to them too I guess. They have to shake off the rust just like the players. Like I said, you all were getting several key calls go your way, and the Ravens still barely won.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 13, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Barely?!!
We won the game with zero offense. Ran the ball 95% and yaw got the ball back twice on turnovers and still didnt win the game. Not to mention yaw fumbled on th 1 yard line. Our 3rd stringers deserved that win.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 13, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You all got turnovers too.
And, I don’t know how Carolina fumbling near the goal line helps your case that the game wasn’t close.
I know you all like to think you have a dominant team, ’cause everyone is talking about it, but I think that game showed both our teams have a way to go before the season starts. But, I think it shows at the same time that both teams have a lot of potential. Some of the younger players on both teams were doing real well.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Aug 13, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Barely won? Maybe the score suggests that, but it was a lot different on the field. Our 2nd string Defense reaped your 1st string offense. And what should be our 2nd string Sacked your version of Trent Dilfer and forced a fumble at the same time.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Aug 13, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you didn’t see what he said. We had calls go our way, so it wasn’t a real win. I advise you to reread what he wrote, and revise your ridiculous win-lose metric. There’s no place for that kind of black-and-white dogma in pro sports.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
WTF
Dude it is only about winning and losing i sports…evidently you didn’t win enough last year to be in the playoffs,enjoy watching them again without a team to root for,unless you barely win alot of games/
Dude it is only about winning and losing i sports…
Are you talking to me? If so, I thought what I said was sufficiently tongue-in-cheek to transcend the whole “Internet doesn’t convey sarcasm” thing.
enjoy watching them again without a team to root for
unless you barely win alot of games
I really have no clue what you’re trying to say.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
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The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
Uh, isn’t this kinda cheating? And wouldn’t your response to this comment be kinda cheating as well?
by RulingWalnut on Aug 14, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Post Game ...
Okay we won,better yet we had zero injuries.The team worked on timing in the passing game and we didn’t have to run,we all know whats coming with the 3 headed monster in due time.Some players looked good,some not so much,its preseason and football is back!!!! As for the announcers,who cares,we are an us against the world team anyway,it suits us,but you can bet your ass,when the smoke clears we are going to leave some bodies on the ground,we have the best team we have ever had and its going to be fun no matter what,we will make them all believers!!!
…we had zero injuries.
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/21116796091
“Unclear how serious, but hearing about two injuries from the Ravens game: Jameel McClain (sprained ankle) and Tavares Gooden (neck).”
…we will make them all believers!!!
It’s more likely that we’ll make them all haters.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Gooden is hurt. Color me shocked.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Next man up
Maybe now we can see what the guy phillips has to offer.
by Raven_all_day on Aug 15, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
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