T.O. to Cincy?
As most of you are probably aware, Terrell Owens was recently contacted by both the St. Louis Rams and the Cincinnati Bengals to see if they could sign him before training camp. Yesterday, news came out that St. Louis had backed-off their original offer, and Cincy has since been described as the favorite to acquire Owens. As per ESPN's Adam Schefter, The Bengals have offered Owens an "incentive-laden" contract and they have given him the deadline of Wednesday to sign. Apparently, Carson Palmer has been active in recruiting T.O., both by contacting Owens personally and by having conversations within the Bengals organization to drum-up support for the embattled receiver.
The only other possibility for Owens at this point seems to be the New York Jets, but one source told Schefter that the chance of that happening is around "twenty percent." It has been likened to the Jets' previous conversations with JaMarcus Russell, of which nothing came to fruition.
Personally, this worries me. I'd much rather see T.O. in New York, where we'll only have to play him once in Week 1 when most of us agree the Jets will still be ironing out some off-season wrinkles. But for T.O., the clear choice here has to be Cincinnati. It gives him a chance to rebuild his reputation and play with a real passing game, where he will be a part of a formidable receiver tandem that will keep teams from loading up on one receiver or the other.
Owens was recently interviewed on NFL Network by Rich Eisen, and I have to say it was an Owens I'd never seen before. He seemed humiliated, humbled, and indeed desperate. He was essentially using the interview to beg teams for a second chance, imploring them to forget his penchant for being a diva and think primarily about his ability to play. Personally, when I think about his ability to play, I start getting worried about possibly having to play against him twice this year.
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I don't like this
He will give our secondary a problem because our weakest CBs will be covering him, because the good ones will be too busy covering Ocho and Bryant. Not Good….
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
Having to cover both
85 and TO will give our secondary fits, especially in gamme two in Cincy with no Reed, Webb and possibly no Fabian as well. Better have a great pass rush for that game!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
they want him because bryant is having issues. so dont worry about bryant
by Rayisyourdaddy on Jul 27, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t like this too much. Even though he is very old, TO can still give you 50 catches as a #2-3. I rather him sign with the Jets, but it looks like Cinci will be the place. Whatever, just got to go out there and play him the best we can.
I agree, I think the Bengals are trying to build their team solely just to beat us.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
this also has a lot to do with Antonio Bryant
they say he’s already looking like a bust, sort of like Coles last year. This is an obvious improvement over either one of them.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Bryant is one of the most overrated WR I have ever seen play the game. The guy has never been more than a solid #2 to me. The fact that he got the exact same contract as Boldin is comical.
indeed
he reminds me of Brandon Lloyd. Incredible natural ability to catch anything. But he’s still working on just about every other skill set needed to be a starting receiver in the NFL.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Re: Lloyd
Dude’s been killing training camp this year, snagging long ball after long ball. He needs to get his head in gear.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta respect them
They could be really explosive just like us. We have a running game, they have a running game. They can throw we can thow. But how will our defenses stand up against these offenses. They have some guys coming back from injury too.
by Raven_all_day on Jul 28, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a running game, they have a running game.
It’s going to be hard for Cedric Benson to run against us in Week Two when he’s suspended.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
true but there O-Line is pretty good so, we cant sleep on them just because he’s not there.You kno how the NFL, next man up.
by Raven_all_day on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Benson will not miss a game -
Let’s not count on winning games because key people are out. Let’s win games because there’s talent and skill. I wish Big Ben wasn’t suspended… so we don’t have to wait until week 6 to see his sorry butt on his back!
Even though he is very old, TO can still give you 50 catches as a #2-3.
I’m worried that he might do better than that…
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Owens = overrated signing
At this point in his career Owens is a verticle WR and not a hole lot more. T.O. is not going to run all the routes on the route tree anymore and therefor his effectiveness is limited in a passing game. What they NEED is a player that will go inside and occupy LB’s and Safety’s……..Owens is not that guy. When Ownens here’s (foot steps) Ray Lewis and our LB plus these safety’s he ain’t gonna want it.
Don’t forget…….. he drops a ton of balls to…… in big spots.
"What they NEED is a player that will go inside and occupy LB’s and Safety’s"
Like Jermaine Gresham or even Jordan Shipley?
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Veteran presence (for a playoff push)
Gresham is an a talent. In fact the most talented TE on that roster (that’s not saying much). Is Gresham going to have instant impact……I doubt it. Too much to learn. I also love how some in the media talk of Shipley. Didn’t Shipley play in a spread offense at Texas? Reminder: The last two rookies WR’s to come into this league and have instant impact were Anquan Boildin in 2003 and Randy Moss in 1999.
If the Bengals coaching staff felt that Shipley was a 40-50 catch WR I don’t think they’d be as interested in Owens as they appear to be.
Agreed...
But Gresham will demand coverage, as his athleticism and size will provide an awfully big target. He’s got to be covered.
Shipley was in a spread offense, somewhat. But no one is asking him to be a #1 type player. If he can play the slot, find open space and shift coverages accordingly, he’ll have an effect on defenses. He doesn’t have to catch 40 balls this year to be a difference maker. (Also, I’d say that Percy Harvin, Jeremy Maclin, Mike Wallace, and Hakim Nicks all had instant impacts, each grabbing over 700 yards last year. Eddie Royal caught 90 balls and had 900+ receiving yards two years before as well. But none had as large of an impact as the two you mentioned did, that’s for sure.)
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like the Bengals
Don’t want to see them do well. You helped my point. Shipley will probably be a nice player. He’s just not as talented as the players mentioned above. Instant impact by my definition is a consistent week to week performer statistcally and schematically meaning DC’S focus on the player.
I’ll say Harvin fit this profile 8-9 games lasst season. Macklin didn’t and neither did Hakeem Nicks as both players were wildly inconsistent. Royal did ball out 2 years with Brandon Marshall and Toni Scheffler drawing the bulk of the coverage.
I’m not at all worried about TO. Cincy signing him only shows how desperate they are.
by BAL_Hawk on Jul 27, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Desperate teams can still sign good players. And I think you can attribute last year’s statistical woes to QB issues. You give him Palmer and another good WR for teams to focus on and I definitely expect a good year from him.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
by jackmca on Jul 27, 2010 4:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Desperate times call for desperate measures
Let’s face it, how on earth are you going to cover Ocho, Owens AND stop the run? Not happening. Cinci’s 1 dimensional running offense of last year has now become a balanced attack on land and in the air.
You can whine and make excuses all you want, but Owens is an upgrade over anyone they’ve had in the 2 or 3 spot in the last three years. Dude had over 800 yards in Buffalo with two no name QBs throwing to him. He’ll have 800 yards by week 10.
do you hear me whining?
I’m the guy saying this is a great move for Cinci
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Not worried at all
Chad + Bryant + T.O = Locker Room Problems
No chance they are all happy and each one of these guys has proven to be an issue when thats the case.
Don't agree
TO wasn’t a problem in Buffalo and led that team in receiving. With Carson and Chad, he could be a very good player and give defenses fits and actually even make 85 a better receiver because it will be tough to lean defenses towards his side of the field with TO on the other side. Thought he fit in with the Jets better as they have no Holmes the first four games so why not TO as a target for Sanchez?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 27, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Which Carson Palmer going to show up
If the one that ended the playoff game against the Jets shows up then TO is going to have a problem with that. Palmer does have some accuracy issues now.
T.O was not great in Buffalo
He was mediocre there, especially if you consider he had about 1/4 of his receiving yards in one game. While he wasn’t a huge problem, he didn’t help them win many games, or provide any leadership at all. He was their #1 guy, where he’d be #2 or #3 in Cincy. Would he be cool being a reserve? Its very doubtful. If T.O. is still looking for $5+ million a year, he clearly still thinks of himself as a top guy and definite starter.
Even If T.O. does end up starting next to Chad, you don’t think that will be a problem in the locker room with Bryant? I have a hard time believing he will be cool with being a backup, not to mention how stupid the Bengals would look for paying a backup $28 million.
I never said T.O. and Chad, exclusively, wouldn’t work (which I still doubt). I said T.O, Chad and Bryant would not work together.
by DT711 on Jul 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At this point...
Going to a contender, and seeing how little interest there was for his services, I find it hard to believe he’d expect to be a number one guy. But this is TO we’re talking about.
He was actually good in Buffalo, by their standards. There was no consistency at QB, but he still averaged 15 yards a catch, and pulling in 2-4 a game. Not great by any means, but when Ryan Fitzpatrick is throwing the ball, what are you really gonna do? The worst thing he did in Buffalo was take touches away from Lee Evans.
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 27, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He was actually good in Buffalo, by their standards.
By their standards is the key.
One game over 100 yards.
Three games over 65 yards.
Over five catches in one game.
One four game stretch and another three game stretch when he did not get over 39 yards in any game.
If you take out his two solid games in the middle of the year (which were consecutive), he averaged 2.93 catches and 39.07 yards per game.
So yea, I’m not worried if they sign him.
His numbers last year...
Would have been second on the Ravens in yards, tied for the team lead in TD’s, second to only LJ Smith in yards per catch, and third in catches.
Not saying any of this to demean what you guys did offensively (no shots intended), but to point out that he wasn’t that bad comparatively. And Joe Flacco is a much better QB than Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Brian Brohm (combined, on their best day).
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 27, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously guys… We are making a big deal out of nothing here.
TO is only a shadow of his former self. Name recognition is all that he has left. I honestly hope that the Bengals do sign him. Last year was all fine and dandy because the Bengals were winning, but they’re going to find out how all of their cast-offs handle losing next season. They have one of the NFL’s hardest schedules. Guys like Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, Adam Jones and TO are great for a team while they’re winning because they’ll play for less because no one else wants them, but the Bengals locker room is going to fall apart with the slightest bit of adversity. Once that snow-ball starts rolling, they’ll never stop it.
How does bryant’s locker room clout even approach that of t.o. or ocho? He’s a non factor. If he didn’t suck they wouldn’t be looking at t.o.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
by jackmca on Jul 27, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in any event
someone tell me how his locker room clout can hold a candle to those of T.O. or Chad?
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Can you imagine the Bengals’ locker room if they sign TO? I found this on the Bleacher Report…
Cedric Benson supposedly participated in a bar-room brawl in Texas and has had several other incidents.
Rey Maualuga was arrested on drunk-driving charges.
Antonio Bryant has found himself on a number of different teams due to character issues.
Matt Jones is a recovering drug addict and has had his share of problems in the past.
Tank Johnson and Adam Jones were two of the worst behaved NFL players before joining the Bengals.
Chad Ochocinco could be the biggest headache.
Owens could prove an even bigger headache.
Marvin Lewis is going to be a full-time baby sitter.
How could Chad Johnson be the biggest headache, and Owens be an even bigger headache? :)
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness"
— Charles Bukowski
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Marvin Lewis is going to be a full-time baby sitter.
Unless Mike Brown extends Lewis’s contract, 2010 is going to a lame duck season for Marvin. How much is that going to inspire his motley crew, and how much incentive is he going to have to bend over backwards holding that team together if it starts falling apart?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Resign Marvin as our defensive coordinator after the Bengals go 5-11 this year?
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In other words
We don’t want Ciny’s street trash
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but we’d be real damn good in that set.
DLine:
Right End – Suggs
Right DT – Ngata
Left DT – Cody
Left End – Kruger
Linebackers:
Weak Side Linebacker – Ellerbe
Middle Linebacker – Ray Lewis
Strong Side Linebacker – Johnson
with the obvious rotations here and there. I don’t mind the sound of that, if we were in fantasy madden land and could just totally change defensive schematics like that.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
I say switch Johnson and Ellerbe because Johnson is the better pass rusher. Hell of a lineup right there.
yeah
thing is pass coverage. It might be smarter to go tampa-2 since Suggs won’t be playing in space anymore. And Ray would NOT like sliding back into that Tampa-2.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
In other Breaking News
My fingernail just grew .0000054 mm’s. I don’t know which one is more exciting.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
From NFL.com
Since MaLoR can’t be bothered with linking an official story…
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
We're good
This isn’t exactly news worthy. someone can post it on the fan-shot list on the bottom of the website.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Boom goes the dynamite
I expect imploision in Cincy
Passes it to the man.. and… BOOM goes the dynamite
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
by jackmca on Jul 27, 2010 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXEb3706tY&feature=related
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was referring to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no
the worst sports caster of all time
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
That's epic
He looks like Eric foreman off of that 70’s show
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh no, $28 million down the drain
Per a league source, Bryant is a strong candidate to land on the Physically Unable to Perform list to start training camp. The source says that it’s believed Bryant won’t be ready to practice when camp opens, given lingering knee problems.
And they gave us shit for Boldin being injury prone. This guy sucks to begin with and is injury prone. Once the knees start up, it is all down hill from there if you are up there in age.
My sentiments also
Bryant has never been a player that can counted on year to year. What a blunder by the Bengals.
That's why they are formally called
“The Bungals”
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That is insane
smh
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 29, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not AS good as Boldin... he's BETTER, remember
duh, my dad’s not a phone.
Boldin > Bryant
period
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Jul 29, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Karma's a bitch
ain’t it?
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats just what I'm worried about
with all the media praise the Ravens had been getting for drafting Kindle and Cody followed by the rookies’ recent issues.
They say the empty can rattles the most...
Look… They’re still good players and great draft picks. They’re not dead and will be playing for the Ravens for many years.
Everyone needs to calm down.
i agree about Cody
but for Kindle, man, who knows. I don’t think you can really say anything for sure about Kindle at this point. Once you get the white-meat of your head cracked, sometimes you’re never the same again—and that’s not even talking about football. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Kindle has one thing on his side
Youth. The recuperative powers of younger people can be miraculous.
yes
but already at age 23 I am finding I’m not the beast I was when I was 18.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
i’m only recently starting to take care of myself again. Haha its getting better though I shouldn’t make it sound too bad. I’m definitely stronger, but I can’t run like I used to (yet).
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
yes exactly
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Well
I don’t think Naty light technically counts as beer, but OK.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
High Life definitely does
and I’ve been on a steady diet of that since BEFORE I turned 21. 21 was when I started ordering burgers and fries with the high life at the bar around the corner.
It’s ok. I’m putting myself on a 2-a-day regimen (nothing like the NFL) where I run 1.5 miles twice and either lift or do weightless exercises like pushups, situps, and leg lifts, until I’m exhausted.
When I was a teenager, working out like this would have me ripped in a matter of weeks. But now, even though I’m really strong, the flab just hangs around a little more so I have to run to the point where I’m seeing little blue and pink flashes of color out of the corner of my eye and I need to lead up against a wall not to fall over.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Its the diet, not the age
I just turned 26 and I’m in as good as shape as I’ve been in. I did just end my baseball season (Play in an adult league), but I try to eat well and work out year round regardless. The biggest change with age (going into mid twenty’s…) is you can no longer get away with eating crap all the time, as you pointed out. Stick with it Jackma, you’ll be back to where you were, with the added benefit of being easier to add muscle then when you were 18.
Stick with it Jackma, you’ll be back to where you were, with the added benefit of being easier to add muscle then when you were 18.
Agreed. That’s the biggest difference that I’ve noticed as well… the ability to add muscle. I never was able to add muscle like I can now (26 years). When I was 18, I was skinny as a rail.
Stregnth-wise, I’m already as strong as I’ve ever been. But good lord running is painful. I have to run twice a day when I can just so I can accelerate my progress… because I’m not improving my mile times as fast as I had hoped.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
oh well
it is what it is. Running hurts, but a little pain never hurt anybody. And it hurts less everyday as my body is able to run faster and longer.
On the other hand, lifting feels great. I would say I’m “jail-buff.” You know, beastly arms, shoulders, back, etc, but my gut is still there. I’m good with sit ups and leg-lifts, but there’s still some beer on top of those abs.
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Run intervals.
They are a good way to get a good workout without the long runs but still get the burn. They will also make it easier for you to handle more running as you do them.
that’s how I worked my way into even being able to FINISH a 1.5 mile run. So… that’s where I was starting from. Normally on a hard day, I’ll do the 1.5 miles to the gym, get on the bike for 10 mins, then do full body weight lifting.
On an off-day, I’ll do the intervals, then come home, and do weightless stuff like pushups, sit-ups, and those weird things where you hold yourself in pushup up-position while lifting an arm into the air for 30 seconds or something…
"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Do Not Know
About sprint distances, but long distance running I can tell you is almost more mental than physical.
It is about concentration and keeping consistent form for a lllooonnnggggg period of time while your stomach is trying to catch the last train to Cleveland and your legs feel like Haloti Ngata is using them as tackling dummies….
Hehe.
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"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta agree with jacma
I am 25 now, and its not the same as when i was 18-21….
by Rayisyourdaddy on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions

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