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Training Camp Battles: Kelly Gregg vs Terrence Cody

With only 1 day until the start of the Baltimore Ravens training camp in Westminster, Maryland we take a look at what I think will be the 5 most important position battles throughout the month. Coming in as the most important battle to watch for in training camp is the one between veteran nose tackle Kelly Gregg and rookie nose tackle Terrence Cody.

With the Ravens losing two key back up defensive lineman in the off season, Justin Bannan and Dwan Edwards, Baltimore set out to revamp one of the most important positions on this team. With Kelly Gregg winding down his career and there being no realistic replacement on the roster, Ozzie Newsome set out to snag Alabama standout Terrence Cody in the 2nd round. Whoever lines up next to Haloti Ngata, it is going to be a very tough duo to stop from getting into the backfield. Kelly Gregg is the Ravens 2nd all time leading tackler behind Ray Lewis and has been one of the most important players to the success of our defense over the years. Terrence Cody is a mammoth nose tackle with elite strength, size and the athleticism of a gymnast (well, maybe not that last one) who should see a good amount of time with the number 1 defense.

Let's take a closer look at the battle between Gregg and Cody

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Kelly Gregg - 6'0" - 320 lbs - 11 Years Experience

  • Defense Stats
    YEAR TEAM G TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
    1999 PHI 3 2 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
    2001 BAL 8 10 7 3 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0
    2002 BAL 16 56 45 11 0 2.0 0 0 0 0 0
    2003 BAL 16 80 63 17 0 3.0 0 0 0 0 0
    2004 BAL 14 60 43 17 1 1.5 1 0 0 0 0
    2005 BAL 16 61 36 25 2 2.5 0 0 0 0 0
    2006 BAL 16 62 41 21 2 3.5 1 0 0 0 0
    2007 BAL 16 80 56 24 3 3.0 0 0 0 0 0
    2009 BAL 16 63 46 17 0 3.0 0 0 0 0 0
    Career 121 474 339 135 9 19.5 2 0 0 0 0
  • There is no doubt that Kelly Gregg will go down as one of the all time great Ravens. Being the 2nd all time leading tackler behind Ray Lewis at the nose tackle position should tell you just how good this guy is. At only 6'0" but built like a fire hydrant, Gregg is the ideal nose tackle in this league because of his brute strength and low center of gravity. Gregg has said he feels healthy and will be ready for the start of the season. A few years ago, "Buddy Lee" was almost at the point of retirement after numerous surgeries. Now, he is trying to make a come back and give us that muscle flex we all love seeing from the Oklahoma farm boy.
  • What Gregg will need to do: Kelly Gregg will first need to show the coaches that he is indeed in good health and good shape for the start of the season. A brutal month of training camp in this god awful Maryland humidity should definitely test that. We already know what Gregg can do for this defense and how dominant he is a times, now we just need to see that if at 33 years old he can still bring it. I think he can.

Terrence Cody - 6'4" - 360? lbs - Rookie

  • Stats Overview Tackles Misc Interceptions
    YEAR TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD
    2008 23 7 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
    2009 28 12 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
  • Looking at the stats above, you would think that Cody made no impact at Alabama. However, go watch the game tape and you will see one of the most dominant players in all of college football last year. In Cody's only two years with the Crimson Tide, the defense never allowed a 100 yard rusher. Is this guy not perfect for the Ravens then? The buzz around Baltimore is that Cody is an unstoppable force that cannot be contained. He is a much better athlete than people give him credit for and requires a double team every time.
  • What Cody will need to do: Even though us Baltimore fans do not see this as big of a problem as others do, Cody does indeed need to watch his weight. We want him to be big, but 350 will probably be the maximum we want Cody playing at. If he can keep it between 340-350, we are heading in the right direction. Next Cody must show that he can do more than just stuff the run. We know that he is good at that, but one of our main focuses this off season was improving the pass rush and Cody is a piece to that puzzle. He is going to be double teamed so often, but we still want to see him dominate to make sure that a double team happens every play. Understand the playbook and your role on this team, and Cody should be a huge contributor this year.

Others in contention to win the battle: Brandon McKinney, Kelly Talavou

Who will win the battle for the starting nose tackle position?: When it comes down to it, Terrence Cody should be the guy for this position. Now, Kelly Gregg is still great, can still bring it and is still going to be a great player on this defense. However, Cody is the guy we have been targeting for nearly 2 years now and this guy needs to see the field. Will Cody be the starter in week 1? I am not sure, but I don't think there is any doubt this guy will be starting for us before the bye week. He is too fast, too strong, too big and younger than Gregg is right now. Pairing Cody with Haloti Ngata makes for maybe the most dominant defensive front line in the NFL and open up so many more 1 on 1 match-ups for our edge rushers. This is going to be the battle that I think will determine much of our season. The nose tackle position is maybe the most important position on this defense because of what it does for Ray Lewis and the rest of the guys.

Thanks for reading what I think are the 5 most important battles heading into camp. There are so many more that are worth noting and it is going to be a great camp to watch. Hope to see many of you in Westminster this coming week. Go Ravens!

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Who will win the battle for the starting nose tackle position?
Kelly Gregg
110 votes
Terrence Cody
86 votes

196 votes | Poll has closed

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Excellent, well-written article.

This is also the battle that I’ll be watching, but I believe that it’s one that should have a fairly obvious winner. At nose tackle, I don’t think that you can argue with results, and the defense will simply be more effective with the best player in the middle. Nose tackle is one of the few positions where it’s almost entirely a supportive role… that is, the tackle himself doesn’t rack up the statistics. Since his job is primarily to free up the players around him, a nose tackle’s effects can be huge and really open up the entire defense. Therefore, the better player should be obvious in the performance of the overall defense when he’s on the field.

I have a gut feeling that Cody will win this battle. I think that he’s going to greatly improve the defense, and even though the coaches are going to want to ease him into service, I believe that Cody will be play more than any other rookie because they’ll have a hard time taking such an effective player off the field.

by BAL_Hawk on Jul 24, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I must admit to not being totally on board with Cody early. He does have tremendous talent and size but his lack of stamina and inability to keep his weight in check at Alabama concerned me. I think the coaching staff will have Cody understand what he could mean to this defense. He could transform it and force teams to be one-dimensional with his ability to 2 gap. I’d like to see Cody improve as a pass-rusher a little so that QB’s are force to move off their launch point in the pocket. If this happens he’s a 3 down player.

by Ravens One on Jul 24, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

As of right now, we probably shouldn’t be expecting Cody to be a 3 down player. I am not so sold on the argument of him improving his pass rush coming out of college. A nose tackle is not there to necessarily rush the QB (of course he is trying to) but is in there to collapse the pocket. I don’t see Cody having any problem doing that.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly… Guys like Cody (and Ngata as well) are too wide to shed blocks easily. Their job is to push their blockers into the pocket and force the quarterback further back. That shortens the distance and softens the angle for the edge rushers. It ultimate boils down to disruption and timing. Forcing the quarterback to step backwards disrupts his timing, and when he moves backwards, it shortens the time that it takes for the pass-rush to get to him. It’s a double-edged sword that’s extremely effective and why good nose tackles are so valuable.

by BAL_Hawk on Jul 24, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It ultimate boils down to disruption

This is the one thing I expect Cody to bring to our defense, disruption. There is a reason many of us here were all about this guy months before we drafted him. Cody disrupts the offense.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

great article MaLoR

i would add something but you guys said it all

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Jul 25, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like you said, it is going to be tough not having Cody on the field. When you have that type of size and strength, you get that guy on the field. I don’t see him having any problems showing us why he will be the starter.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I have a gut feeling that Cody will win this battle.” I’m guessing no PUN intended : )

I wasn’t on board with us getting Cody. I thought we needed more help at the skill positions. Ozzie did a great job of getting his guy in Cody, and helping the offense in the third through fifth rounds. It seems like a steal now we got Cody so late in the second. Our line (even without Kindle) should be a serious force to be reckoned with.

by BmoreBlitz on Jul 26, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The question was who would "win" this battle

and Gregg is the incumbent and will start the season at NT. The question of who will “end” the season as starter is also clear to me, and that answer is Cody.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jul 24, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Which is why I said this
Will Cody be the starter in week 1? I am not sure, but I don’t think there is any doubt this guy will be starting for us before the bye week.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 24, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is about right. I was saying by game 4, but that may be too aggressive…

by 60minuteassassin on Jul 24, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

Playing NT is almost all physical ability. There is some technique, but even the ability to execute that technique boils down to physical talent (strength, agility, quickness). You better believe that the Ravens are going to start the most effective player, and I’d be surprised if we don’t see Cody on (at least) second and third downs to start the season. He’s more of an impact player than people realize, and that should become quickly apparent in camp. The only thing that could hold him back is conditioning or injury.

by BAL_Hawk on Jul 24, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could not have said it better.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think what we may actually see

is this. While we know Cody won’t be a 3-down player for a while, if ever, we do feel strongly about his ability to disrupt, push the pile, and absorb double-teams so that others can run free. So we may see Gregg on 1st and 2nd downs, since his ability to stuff the run has never been in question, but we start seeing Cody on 2nd- and long and 3rd downs (passing situations). It’s a good place to start a rookie because he’ll be going up against O-Lines that already know they’re in a tough spot, letting the young and fresh legs of Cody just act naturally without having the shoulder the full load.

"Cam, we're not going to have any issues because we're going to be winning."
--Joe Flacco

"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden

by jackmca on Jul 25, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Winner is...The Ravens

They are both going to play because we rotate the lineman,so who actually starts matters little,however Cody has the ability to shove the center into the backfield ,on passing plays,not allowing the QB to step into his throw.When you have Ngata beside him the O line is going to have to pinch toward the middle,leaving gaps for the linebackers to rush the passer,leaving the offense vulnerable to outside rushers…its a win win scenario for the black birds!!!!

by thomlord on Jul 24, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

It is indeed a win win situation. Both Cody and Gregg bring great abilities to our defense and being able to rotate them in and out is going to help so much.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow a tie in the voting. I believe that while Gregg is healthy he can play. There is no rush for Cody to be shoved in the starting lineup, however he should be used on short yardage situations against the run often.

by Guru506 on Jul 24, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

With us starting the season at New York, Cody could se significant playing time to stop their run. Gregg has produced over his years so there is no way Cody is handed the starting job

by Raven_all_day on Jul 24, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh it definitely will not just be handed over to him. Going to have to prove it in training camp. I cannot wait to see Cody dominating the other team’s back up lineman in pre-season.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sticking to the question asked, I think Gregg will win this battle. If and only if Cody learns the play book and, can play without thinking will, he supplement Gregg. Gregg has age but he is 2 years removed from surgery and probably feels better than he did last year. His knowledge of the system alone will keep him on the field more than Cody before the bye. The second half will depend on Cody’s ability to learn and play with confidence.

by Georgia Raven on Jul 24, 2010 12:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

lol i never seen a 6’4" 350 lbs guy not play with confidence but i see ur point.

by Raven_all_day on Jul 24, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

“6’4” 350 lbs guy not play with confidence."

JaBlubber Russel may be an example. Although, it may not be confidence he’s lacking in. To quote Waterboy, he’s “got the brain pain coach.”

by BmoreBlitz on Jul 26, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't we run a 4-3 and a 3-4

So in reality won’t both of them see the field every game?

"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me

by Zachary Beard on Jul 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

true but..

In my mind the starter is the one who has the confidence of the coaches and players and is on the field for the play that decides the game. Will Cody be asked to come off the field in those situations or will they give him the nod.

by Raven_all_day on Jul 24, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure

The given here is that they are both going to play, a lot, so its a win-win for the Ravens, as noted above. I can’t see many situations when they will be on the field together, although a D-Line of Gregg, Cody and Ngata would be a run stuffing monster. Its great to have the established Gregg to rotate in with Cody, as he has what doctors call a little bit of a weight problem.

by DT711 on Jul 24, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not a problem when it gets you paid millions of dollars.

by BAL_Hawk on Jul 24, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, yea

I was busting out a line from Tommy Boy at the end there. No real relevance to that last line about his weight.

by DT711 on Jul 25, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly right. This D-Line (Ngata, Gregg, Pryce) has looked the same since 2006. We all know Gregg does not have too much time left but can still be dominant. With Cody, it is just good to know that we can give Kelly a break when he needs it and we won’t see any drop off.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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