2010 NFL Draft: Rounds 4-7 'Open Thread'
by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM EDT
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PrintWith the first two days of the 2010 NFL Draft in the books, the Baltimore Ravens picked three times on Day Two and believe two of their picks were first round talent, as NFL.com had both Texas OLB Sergio Kindle and Alabama NT Terrence Cody rated in the top 32 draft prospoects.
With two solid defensive player plus a great TE prospect in Oregon's Ed Dickson, the Ravens head into the final phase of the draft today looking for more talent in rounds 4-7.
Currently having picks in only rounds four, five (two picks) and six, the Ravens will have chances to continue to improve their roster as there are a lot of very good players remaining on the board. As of this point, the Ravens do not have a seventh round pick, so don't rule out the possibility of another trade to add a pick or two before the end of the day.
Baltimore Beatdown will once again be at the Ravens HQ at One Winning Drive in Owings Mills, Maryland covering the draft live, getting in on the comference calls with draft picks and questioning both GM Ozzie Newsome and Director of Player Personnel Eric DeCosta as these two guys lead a team that is known league-wide for finding talent in all seven rounds, but especially at the end of the draft and beyond. Remember, once the draft ends, the team is on the phones, finding and inviting the undrafted free agents to be the next great undrafted Raven, such as LeRon McClain and Bart Scott.
Keep it here on The Beatdown for all the news, notes, comments and quotes, as well as reading all the interesting comments posted by our readers.
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Won’t be able to make the first few rounds today, gonna play some golf. But I will be following it as much as possible.
Couple guys I want.
Perrish Cox
Mike Williams
Vuna Tuihalamaka
Walther Thurmond
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Love the first two on your list
Feel free to email or call me to get an update.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see them trade up now to get Campbell
Start grooming him so that if we lose Gaither its not a big deal.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions
that would be cool
if they they trade gaither to the redskins for there pick in the forth round for bruce campbell becuase i know for sure that bruce campbell will be going to the redskins if they don’t
Campbell to the Raiders at pick 8 of round 4.
Bet Campbell expected to go a lot higher, as some had him going in first round, and ironically to Oakland!
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Boooo Myron Rolle. I guess it be nice to get him, but just cause you are smart does not mean you are going to be that great of a football player. I have watched him so many times, he is not the best Safety.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
yeah
but you never know he may be a good player or the next ed reed lol. I think the ravens should really go after two cornerbacks like perrish cox and dominique frank if they are available and i don’t think any team is drafting a kicker so we could just sign one thats undraft that was on our broad
Rolle might be a steal
as he is getting downgraded because how smart he is? Imagine teams thinking a guy thinks too much to be a good player. They just want him to run the play, not think about it. I don’t doubt his commitment to football at all, as he’s said the Rhodes Scholarship stuff will be his fallback and post playing career job.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Williams (Syracuse) to the Bucs in 4th
and Gilyard to the Rams in 4th as well.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
no lunch for Bruce
sorry dude
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
LeRon McClain was a 4th rounder
Maybe Priest Holmes would be a better example.
I chose A, although B tempted me. I really wanted Kyle Wilson.
Danario Alexander would make me happy
So would Akwasi Owusu-Ansah or a center and Walter Thurmond III
this akwasi guy is a must-have. we need better names.
only one question. does he have dreads?
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Why do you think I put it up there
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see the team pick Domonique Franks, CB (Oklahoma).
Great athlete and decent size playing in the Big 12. Practiced every day against Bradford is good experience for us.
aka 'Rexx'
The Ravens are on the clock....
Remember to click on “Home” to see new story on the Ravens pick shortly after it is made in a couple of minutes.
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http://twitter.com/RavensInsider
Couple cornerbacks to keep an eye on, too, for Baltimore: Dominique Franks from Oklahoma and IUP’s Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
about 10 hours ago via web
South Florida wide receiver Carlton Mitchell might be a good fit for the Ravens’ fourth-round pick.
he did have a serious injury
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 24, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
probably a special teams pick, or just a plain 'ol BPA
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Didn't we just take a Fucking TE?!
When will we get a WR or cb?
My comments aren't random, you just can't think as fast as me....
So both the Ravens and Pats take 2 tight ends
Well… its is a very deep TE class this year. And now we are truly set at TE for a few years.
is one of these guys some kindof slot-TE prospect? or is one of them some versatile ST player?
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Ozzie loves his TEs
and with that pick you’re pretty much guaranteed to be set at TE for the next 5 years. one of these two guys will justify a starting spot, and perhaps both. 2 TE sets, anyone?
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
He had 27 Bench reps and the lowest vertical for a TE
And he can’t block. He’s a waste of a pick
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Dennis Pitta, TE BYU
I must say both Dickson and Pitta have very good hands. Both, especially Dickson can play in the slot. We may not have drafted another WR but with these two we have definitely added to our receiving corps.
i'm guessing one of them is a beast while the other "plays like a raven"
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Absolutely nothing
We only had Heap and Davon Drew as TE’s so we needed depth. Both guys are big but Dickson is more of a blocker and Pitta is a pure receivbing option, although both will play ST’s.
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by Bruce Raffel on Apr 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Still
That dude with the Terreorist Last name was available, he’s a monster
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Terrorist last name?
Like Rudolph? or Mcveigh? You racist piece of shit.
Owusu-Ansah
Don’t you judge me. You have NO IDEA THE THINGS I’VE DONE, THE THINGS I’VE SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't you judge an entire ethnicity as terrorist...
because of a similarity in spelling. I don’t care what you’ve seen. It’s obviously made you a biggot.
First of all
The above comment was a Joke, and why is the world so Fucking politically correct?! I was just stating that his last name is similar to the spelling of a middle-eastern last name. And if you look a little bit farther in the sentence, I said he was a beast.
My comments aren't random, you just can't think as fast as me....
by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
still man that aint right. what if i was like “what about that guy, Baltimore Warrior, the racist redneck who writes on here all the time? he’s really smart and knows his football?”
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
I was born in Baltimore and stayed there until I was 11.
I’m not a redneck. And second of all, my best friend, he’s black
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
it was hypothetical
its obviously not fair for me to characterize you as a racist redneck just because you called a guy a terrorist for having the name owusu-ansah. and it is similarly not fair for you to call a guy a terrorist for having the name owusu-ansah either. His parents could work for the department of defense for all we know
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
True
But my point is, that why is it that if I say one tiny little thing, I’m classified as a Bigot? Is it evil of me to say that because his name resembles that of a terrorist?
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
he called you a bigot, i didn't.
i just said you should probably back off the terrorist thing.
and it’s preposterous for you to say his name resembles that of a terrorist. the vast majority of people with middle-eastern or muslim names are not terrorists.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
You're an idiot...
because etymologically the name Owusu-Ansah is most likely west African, and not middle eastern or arab. The fact is that terrorists come from places other than the middle east with different names than the typical middle eastern names. This isn’t about how politically correct we are as a country, its about how xenophobic we are as individuals. That is un-American.
You have to be an idiot. You wanted the Ravens to draft Taylor Mays.
no, and no.
you’re responding to me, i haven’t told anyone to draft taylor mays, and i’m sorry if i’m not a scholar on the regional origin of last names.
I also agreed with you that it was absurd to call him a terrorist. So fuck off.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Yet I'm the one who's an author on this website?
Fuck-off you prick. I said it, get over it. Good-bye
My comments aren't random, you just can't think as fast as me....
by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Good to see you could...
formulate an intelligent response being the talented writer that you are. I don’t take kindly to racism or biggotry, in any form. At least I have the intellect and decency to formulate a more meaningful opinion than curse words.
Oooh
Listen I don’t care, I will say what I want.
My comments aren't random, you just can't think as fast as me....
by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
My point is...
that as a fellow Ravens fan, on a public blog, why would you choose to make offensive remarks? I am of middle eastern descent, with a terrorist last name!!! I don’t see the relevance to Football or the Ravens, and don’t understand why you would try to ruin such a great time for Ravens fans with hateful commentary?
Dude
How is what I said Offensive, I said he has a lasst name that has similarity to Middle-Eastern culture and that he was a beast. And when you were out of words when I stated that, you said that I was an idiot because I like Taylor Mays. You ran out of intelligent things to say, so you resorted to insulting me. But no, I’m the idiot.
My comments aren't random, you just can't think as fast as me....
by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
who knows man
maybe we’re really done with the TEs we have (besides heap) and we’re looking for one more year with Heap while we groom these two guys to compete for starting spots.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
It's hard, I have the Gruden Scowl right now
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah gotta admit i'm not crazy about the Pitta pick.
sounds like another Sypnewski to me
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
That's EXACTLY why I don't like the pick
The TE we picked in the 4th last year isn’t even on the team.
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Heap is fine but
1) You know he’ll miss a couple games to injuries every year till he retires.
2) Both Pitta and Dickson can play the slot for years to come. Together they will make us need to keep fewer WR’s that suck. D-Will, I’m looking at you.
3) Again both Dickson and Pitta have great hands. Both will work the middle of the field. We can have 2 TE sets now.
Please?
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Heap is slower than George W. Bush
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
IDK, we might get a 3rd-4th rounder next year for him
And if that doesn’t work, just keep him on the roster to mentor Pitta and Dickson
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
the latter.
you sure as hell ain’t gettin a 3rd or a 4th for him. MAYBE a 5th.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
We'll maybe some team needs a TE
But he would serve a mentor to our two Rookie TE’s better. a 5th is way to low for someone who is one of the leading receivers in Baltimore History.
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
i’d actually argue it’s too high for someone who has 2 years of production left, MAX. draft picks last longer than Todd Heap can.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Yeah, that's true
But I really want Dickson or Pitta to start next year, just so they can get some experience early in their career.
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
no argument here
but i think its more likely, and more honorable, for heap to finish his career as a raven
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Yeah I'd like Heap around
At least one more season.
Wow - didn't see another TE coming
BPA is not the rule in round 4. Guess Oz doesn’t see a WR/CB need? Or one he liked?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
A CB and a WR in that order
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like Pike and Lefevour
I’d like one of them in the later rounds to back up Flacco in case he gets injured. I’m not a huge fan of Troy Smith or Beck (Is he even on the team anymore?). IMO I would like Pike and a CB in the 5th.
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
both are very much on the team
and both have starting experience, which makes them better backups than anyone we could draft. i was kidding. No more TEs or QBs, please.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
I'm not kidding about Pike.
But for the love of God, don’t pick another TE
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think my comment load a little faster than some others.
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
didnt some ppl like that Briscoe guy?
there’s a cool gangster rapper with the name Brisco. And that rapper is from where? MIAMI! I’m sold. Draft him.
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
I actually wanted to take him in the 2nd a couple of months ago.
I would be thrilled if we could get him. He’s a physical WR with pretty good athleticism.
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I don’t think he’s sudden enough.
is there anyone left at WR who has the athleticism we want?
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
OTAY! do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttt
i’m an expert, you can tell right?
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Riiiiight
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Zachary Beard on Apr 24, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
We need Malor
He is our very own Mel Kiper, we need some of his expertise, he’s been studying the draft for like 3 months
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Somewhat of a TE run in the 4th
4 of the last 13 picks.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
bummer dude.
that name would look sooo much better in a purple jersey
"Just win baby. Yeah, I stole that."
--Jon Gruden
Yeah, I wanted that Ansah
Kid to be a Raven. Man I’m a little disapointed right now.
CB's I still like
Dominique Franks
Perrish Cox
Donovan Warren
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
Perrish Cox is still on the board?
His character concerns have dropped his stock but he has 2nd/3rd round value.
i would grab him
good talent – great value at this point
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
mystery to me.
Is he hurt?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Top WR still on the board
Dezmon Briscoe
Carlton Mitchell
Riley Cooper
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
Mike Williams went to TB
at 101
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
yep - I wanted him too
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Dominique Franks
per nfl.com
Franks has been an outstanding secondary defender for the Sooners over the past two seasons after redshirting in 2006 and playing in sub packages in 2007. Franks has an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism for the position. He doesn’t attack the run with consistency and should be more physical given his dimensions. Franks is an outspoken, confident defender that will challenge receivers at the line of scrimmage. Franks is a natural athlete with the speed, quickness and agility to contribute as a corner as well as having the size to move inside to the safety position. Franks is a better athlete than football player but has the potential to develop into an excellent NFL defender. Franks has excelled as a punt returner and should contribute at the next level in that capacity as well as on coverage units while honing his skills in the secondary.
oh I get it ...
… doesn’t say he plays like a Raven
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
by Fandemonium on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Still keeping my eye on
CB’s
Dominique Franks
Perrish Cox
Donovan Warren
WRs
Dezmon Briscoe
Carlton Mitchell
Riley Cooper
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
Roger Godell grew up a Baltimore Colts fan?
He just mentionned on NFL.com. I never knew that.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
who will still be there?
CB’s
Perrish Cox
Donovan Warren
WRs
Dezmon Briscoe
Carlton Mitchell
Riley Cooper
"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
who is Reed?
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Jones a solid DT
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
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The last 3 picks are lame. Don’t address our weaknesses in the secondary which really hurt us last year.
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