Terrence Cody to work-out with Ravens
Step aside Kelly Gregg? Looks like DT prospect is gaining interest from Ravens,Chargers, and Jets.
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I would love to see him as our DT next year
Hopefully he can slip to the 2nd like Maualuga did last year, and we can get Kyle Wilson in the 1st
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Heard his weight isw way down
and his man-boobs are slightly smaller. At least he ran his forty yard dash with his shirt on, unlike the Bengals Andre Smith last year!
Apparently he ended the season at around 400 lbs, went to the Senior Bowl at around 378 and now is around 350 and looking solid. Once again, along w/ Spikes, he may be a second round pick with first round talent.
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I take spikes over cody if they are both in the second. Weight will always be a problem for him. I think Spikes will be more of a factor and for a longer time than cody. Though cody and spikes would be awsome.
by Georgia Raven on Mar 20, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would love it.
Only knock on this guy is his weight issue, but not everyone is born with that athletic body. For someone who is his size, he can really play good ball.
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Most def.
The man is a beast. His weight may be a concern, but I believe once he gets around guys like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, he’ll keep his weight in check.
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine what Cody alongside of Ngata would do
to the interior of our run defense and how good they’d make our LB’s look as they occupied the o-line and let those backers make the plays. Soon we’ll be saying “Ray who?”
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 21, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
MOUNT CODY!
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 20, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
he HAS lost 50 pounds since the end of the season.
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by Zachary Beard on Mar 20, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to be pessimistic about a good NFL prospect
I have concerns about the long term durability of Cody. If he only plays 4-5 years would that be considered good value? I think the average NFL career last 3.5 season. I would want a nutritionist with Cody at all times when the dinner bell rang if he were to become a Raven. The guy can flat out play though.
I hate to pessimistic about a good NFL prospect
is how is was supposed to read.
This is a fantastic idea, and something that I hadn’t really considered yet.
If they drafted a nose tackle like Cody, Ngata could shift to defensive end. THAT would be down-right nasty. Ngata is, by far and away, the Ravens best option at defensive end. He’d be a million times better than Odrick. He’s a force against the run but is athletic enough to play end. I just always assumed that the Ravens wanted to keep him at nose tackle… shows what I know.
Ngata at DE?
You must be kidding. He might be athletic, but that’s for a guy who is 340 pounds. Ngata definitely does NOT have the edge speed to be a DE and would open up the middle and slow the team down.
Odrick is a DE with a LB’s mentality and athleticism and would be a great fit in this defense and a great replacement for Pryce. The only issue is who else will be there along w/ Odrick and whom Ozzie will weigh heavier on his board.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 21, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
As good as Ngata is, he should not be playing DE. That position requires speed to get around the Tackles and all Ngata can really do is just push someone backwards. I would suggest maybe moving to s 4-3 for alot of looks.
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Kidding? No.
Ngata has played DE for the Ravens for much of his career. He was listed as the RE on their depth chart in 2007 and 2008. The defensive line on the Raven’s official depth chart was RE-NT-LE in 2007 and 2008 with Ngata-Gregg-Pryce listed respectively. Last season and now, their defensive line on the depth chart is labeled DT-NT-DE with Ngata-Gregg-Pryce listed respectively (Edwards overtook Pryce last season, but Pryce was the initial starter). I think the change in the terminology (calling the RE position a DT) came with Mattison, and may also be a ploy for contract negotiations with Ngata, since defensive ends make much more than defensive tackles. He is still listed as a DE on NFL.com.
Ngata is an excellent, if not ideal, 3-4 DE. He has played much of his career there and has obviously been fantastic. How many times do I need to explain the role of a 3-4 DE? Their primary role is not rushing that passer (although that’s a huge benefit if they can). Their primary role is stopping the run, pushing the pocket and eating up blockers so the linebackers can get to the quarterback cleanly. Ngata happens to be the best in the league at those tasks. I’m not saying that Ngata can’t play NT. Of course he can! He can play every position on a 3-4 defensive line (and he has). That is awesome for the Raven’s defense, and the reason why Ngata is considered one of the best defensive lineman in the league without getting tons of sacks.
by BAL_Hawk on Mar 21, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No hate on Ngata what so ever
But if he is an ideal 3-4 DE, then how come we aren’t seeing 8-10 sacks from him?
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I feel like I’ve said this twenty times, but I’ll say it once more.
But if he is an ideal 3-4 DE, then how come we aren’t seeing 8-10 sacks from him?
Because he is a 3-4 defensive end. Quoting myself above, “[A 3-4 defensive end’s] primary role is not rushing the passer (although that’s a huge benefit if they can). Their primary role is stopping the run, pushing the pocket and eating up blockers so the linebackers can get to the quarterback cleanly.”
I may have gotten a little carried away calling Ngata the “ideal” 3-4 defensive end. I still think that he’s an excellent option, but guys like Richard Seymour, Trevor Pryce and Aaron Smith are probably more ideal 3-4 defensive ends.
I just think Ngata is too strong and powerful to not be collapsing the pocket up the middle instead of around the edge. Yes, the 3-4 defense does not usually see 10-12 sack Defensive Ends, but there is no reason we can overcome that and get one in here. Gregg is on the downside of his career and is a 2 down player. Ngata can play all 3 downs, why not just put him at NT?
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There’s certainly nothing wrong with a 3-4 defensive end getting sacks. It’s just rare, and the defense usually needs to be all but unstoppable for that to happen. Pryce had 13 sacks in 2006, and Aaron Smith had 6 in 2008. In both years, both players were part of suffocating, top-rated defenses.
It’s rare because the 3-4 scheme, fundamentally, needs its lineman to eat up blockers. Guys that are good edge rushers typically don’t require a double team when they play inside and therefore, cannot play on the defensive line. Since guys that require a double team aren’t typically good edge rushers, 3-4 ends rarely get sacks.
And I do not really have a problem with Ngata at DE, but I would like to have a more finesse guy who can get around the lineman and not just push them back. As strong as Ngata is, he does not have a speed move to get around Tackles. We need Ngata at DT. Maybe a 4-3 would fit this line better?
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Well… if you simply want to see our defensive ends get sacks, then we will need to switch to a 4-3, and in that scheme, Ngata would not be an effective end. However… if you want the defense to be effective, to be built around the Ravens personnel, and to just get sacks period (not mattering which position gets the sacks), then the Ravens should continue to play a 3-4 and not care if the linebackers, instead of the defensive ends, get sacks.
I agree with you Malor about considering a switch to 4-3 if we drafted Cody. We could have Cody and Ngata in the middle, Suggs and Kruger/Rookie at ends and Ray JJ and Ellerbe as the line backers. That would easily put us as the number 1 defense against the run in the league.
They could also play a 3-4 like this…
Ngata-Cody-Kruger/Pryce as the RE-NT-LE,
Suggs-Lewis-Ellerbe-Johnson as the ROLB-RILB-LILB-LOLB.
Having Suggs and Johnson on the outside would keep teams off-balance since they would never know which front four or five would be rushing the quarterback. In general, I think that 3-4 defenses are much more unpredictable.
Rod Woodson has the Ravens picking Wilson in the first and Cody in the second.
I’d be happy with that.
Be an amazing draft. Cody won’t drop that far though.
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by Zachary Beard on Mar 21, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 22, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Patriots, Chargers and Jets pass him up in the first round, and the Patriots pass him up in the second, then he may actually fall to the Ravens. He will only be of interest to 3-4 teams.
I'd prefer to have us play more of a 4-3
With Ngata and Gregg inside and Suggs and Kruger/Pryce outside. With Ray in the middle and JJ and Ellerbe outside. Then we can draft Cody for the middle to take Gregg’s place and have a really good front seven. Once Ray retires, Ellerbe can move to the middle and we all know we’ll find more LB’s out there.
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