Great article in Pittsburgh's paper
Ravens, fans likely enjoying Roethlisberger's mess
Tuesday, March 09, 2010 By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10068/1041214-87.stm#ixzz0htb2sgiK
You know what they're saying about you in Baltimore, don't you?
"You people in Pittsburgh really have a lot of nerve calling us 'Baltimorons' ... "
They're right.
At least for now there no longer is any justification to make fun of the Ravens or their faithful fans, no matter how enjoyable the experience.
This goes back to Friday, a day that was celebrated in Baltimore just as much as the Fourth of July will be this summer. That was the day the Ravens traded for big-time wide receiver Anquan Boldin, instantly becoming the team to beat in the AFC North Division. It also was the day that news broke of another sexual assault allegation against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.
It's hard to say what made Ravens fans happier. I'm guessing the Roethlisberger mess.
Think how you would feel if, say, Washington Capitals star Alex Ovechkin found himself in a similar jackpot.
You get the idea.
No, it's not very admirable to revel in someone's misfortune. It's despicable, actually. But we're all human beings with human frailties. Occasionally, we enjoy seeing someone squirm, especially when that person is the star player for our team's hated rival.
Well, Roethlisberger is squirming, big time.
So are the Steelers.
How those Ravens fans must be loving every second of it.
The Roethlisberger case might not be resolved soon. Investigators in Milledgeville, Ga., where he was accused of the sexual assault early Friday morning by a 20-year-old college student, held a brief news conference Monday to say they still want to interview seven potential witnesses as well as Roethlisberger for a second time. He hasn't been charged in the alleged incident but is taking the matter seriously enough that he has hired prominent Atlanta lawyer Ed Garland, who has represented such notable NFL players as the Ravens' Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis in high-profile criminal cases. Garland released a statement Monday, saying, "The facts show that there was no criminal activity. No sexual assault occurred."
No matter the outcome of the case, Roethlisberger will lose to at least some degree. His reputation has taken another big hit. This is the second sexual assault allegation against him in eight months. The first led to a civil suit in July by a Nevada woman, who claimed Roethlisberger raped her at a Lake Tahoe resort in July 2008. That case is dragging through the legal system.
Here's the best part for giddy Ravens fans: All of this leaves the Steelers in a terrible spot.
Franchise quarterbacks don't come along often. The Steelers have one in Roethlisberger -- a two-time Super Bowl winner -- and have invested $102 million in him, making him the face of the team. The Rooneys hardly could have imagined that Roethlisberger twice would make these kinds of headlines.
If it were a marginal player involved, the Steelers almost certainly would have released him. They cut wide receiver Cedrick Wilson in March 2008, after he was involved in a domestic abuse case. But the team can't release Roethlisberger. It needs him to win games.
Hypocrisy? Sure, it is.
Do stars get preferential treatment in life? Absolutely. The Steelers didn't release linebacker James Harrison after he was involved in a domestic case about the same time as Wilson. That might have had something to do with him being a Pro Bowl player a season earlier.
Is this turning out to be a very entertaining winter for Ravens fans? You know that answer.
What's funny is Baltimore didn't need the Roethlisberger case to make Friday a terrific day. Getting Boldin for third- and fourth-round draft picks in a trade with the Arizona Cardinals could have stood alone and served that purpose.
"The Ravens just got better," coach John Harbaugh told the Baltimore media after the team immediately signed Boldin to a four-year, $28 million contract extension.
A lot better, actually.
The Ravens' defense, though aging, still is led by Lewis and remains good enough to win low-scoring games. Now, with the additions of Boldin and deep-threat wide receiver Donte' Stallworth to quarterback Joe Flacco and running back Ray Rice, the offense is capable of winning high-scoring games.
Boldin fills the Ravens' most glaring need.
"I believe I can help, maybe get them to another level," he told the team's website.
In unrelated personnel moves Monday, the Steelers signed two free agents -- safety Will Allen and wide receiver Arnaz Battle -- and agreed to contract terms with a third -- offensive tackle Jonathan Scott. Then Monday night, they reached an agreement with safety Ryan Clark, who appeared ready to leave as a free agent. Keeping Clark is good, unexpected news. He is a proven player to line up in the secondary next to Troy Polamalu.
Somehow, though, I don't think it ruined the day for Ravens fans.
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So what.....??
We have a serial rapist, you have a murderer?
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
We actually have two murderers, get your facts straight. Thank you!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
The best part is,
is that Ben is using Ray Ray’s Lawyer!
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Obviously. He also punches old ladies and children for fun.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 11, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And he is also a terrorist
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
No wonder they shut down the city for the G-20, Ben must have thought it meant 20 year old girls.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 12, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
The point wasn’t “Look at Ben! He’s f’d up again!”
The point was to show that the article was written in your paper. Please stop trolling.
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
No shit....
It happened in Pittsburgh. Bright one you are!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Or it's Pittsburgh news anyway.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Haha. It happened in Georgia.
and it is a Pitt paper telling you all that you are the moron’s now. And saying we have every right to laugh at you now. Of course someone from Pittsburgh wouldn’t “get it.” Need more explanation?
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Oh...I get it.
I don’t recall the reference to “telling you all that you are the moron’s now” (fyi, no apostrophe in morons). Or course it gives you a reason to laugh, I still laugh that Ray stabs people.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
I find it alot funnier that Ben is raping housekeeping ladies and 20 year old college students. At least Ray’s case makes people fear him more and is something frightening. Damn proud of Ray.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I don't find rape or murder funny Malor.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
And this coming from someone who just stated
I still laugh that Ray stabs people.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
It was a joke Malor.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
It wasn't f***ing funny
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Stand in front of Ray and say that
I’m sure he’ll laugh.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 12, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Then tackle you into a bus and put a dent nto the bus
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 12, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
FYI, it didn't happen in Pittsburgh
And you CLEARLY didn’t read the article, because if you did, you would realize it isn’t about what ben did. It is about how Baltimore fans are laughing at you now. And you just made yourself a target by hopping on here and crying about it.
haha: “No shit…. It happened in Pittsburgh. Bright one you are!” dumbass
Maybe READ an article before you start crying victim on here.
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Really, she's not.
Although she does look like she could play line backer for the Ravens!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Haha, you wish you could find someone as hot as me. Keep on wishing, Steelers fan.
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
LOL. Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh.
Whatever makes you feel better.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
If JenD looks like a linebacker...
then she can “blitz” me any time she wants!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 11, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Easy now fellas, might scare off a very good contributer.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
On a Ravens Blog, not likely
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve just been trolling, waiting for an opportunity to post the pants party thing. My bad.
by MauiPimpin on Mar 12, 2010 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not me MaLor
I wouldn’t leave just for the plain fact that I’d miss your comments.
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Jen, they have no Cheerleaders on the Steelers because they cannot find a girl who looks remotely normal and was not affected by the Chernobyl Radiation exposure.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
That's why everyone that "grew up" there
no longer lives there. Ask Cdsumm
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Why would you ask?
Obviously stated in profile.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Reminds me of a song they used to play on the radio here, about the girls of western PA out-drinking the men.
When your population is Irish, Italian, and Eastern European it’s pretty much true.
FYI, the Steelers were the first NFL team to have their own cheerleaders, we got rid of them because they take attention away from our booze.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 11, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
touche
My dad had to move away too, to find a good government job. Since he decided he didn’t want to be a coal miner like his dad.
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
We moved back from Chicago when my wife got an IRS job in Pittsburgh. Things are getting better here, but if you moved more than 5 years ago it was bad.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 11, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
You would think that bc I live/work here I would be surrounded by Ravens fans, but I’m surrounded by Western PA’ers that can’t find government jobs in their home state so they drive to Maryland
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Yeah well . . .
we were voted America’s most livable city.
Which I believe is right above America’s most loved retirement community.
And yeah, the Gov/t jobs here are extremely competitive, I believe we still have the highest percentage of population with graduate degrees in the country. It took my wife a year and a half to get in.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 12, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
You live in Portland Maine?
I just looked it up… Pittsburgh got 10… Baltimore got 8… You were beaten by one of the most crime and drug infested cities in America… And just in case you don’t believe me:
I put the link up for everybody to see :)
by NgataChance!! on Mar 12, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, we won it 2 years ago. Kind of awesome to see Baltimore ahead of us, go you.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 12, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Can I call the Terps the best team in NCAA basketball then?
We won the it a few years ago so… you know… all the same right?
Oooh
Gonna have to disagree with you there Malor… See I go to a school named West Virginia and even though we get absolutely no respect from the media we still have pride haha but I do think Maryland is turning it on at the right time. I just really don’t like Vasquez (if that’s how you spell it)
by NgataChance!! on Mar 12, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well I am a Terrapin homer and will of course say that my school is the best. I think we can hang with anyone when we are playing our best game. We have 4 guys that are averaging points in double digits and have an awsome drive to win.
That shot you hit last night though was amazing. Right in Lance Stephenson’s face. He was a major Terp recruit who lured us along the whole time about coming here than dropped out for Cinci. I bet he wishes he was ranked #19 right now and playing for a ACC title and a chance to go far in the big touni.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Pitt all the way man, we’re rebuilding and still kicking butt.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 12, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, it sure looked like you were kicking butt last night when Notre Dame held you to 45 points and you lost.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Sometimes I guess you just gotta kick your own butt.
The Big East tournament needs to rethink the system, those double bye’s suck.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 12, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Cause it looks to be doing fine for us… Mountaineers all day!
by NgataChance!! on Mar 12, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
And there's the Big East!
Won the Big East!!
by NgataChance!! on Mar 14, 2010 3:46 AM EST up reply actions
Why would it not be in a Pitt paper?
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Clearly
Because every girl that is as big as a linebacker puts their picture as their avatar.
You, on the other hand, must be smokin’ hot. And because you are so hot, you must like them big like me if you are a Steelers fan… because you know what they say about your girls… they have to be big enough to fit your QBs name on their ass!
http://www.dailywaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/steelers-fan.jpg
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
I don’t even think Rufflesburger would sexually assault that.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Don't give him that much credit, MaLor. Did you see the girl from Nevada?
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
No, but I can imagine she had as much facial hair as Ben Wayne Gacey does.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
If only I knew who that was so I could laugh at this joke...
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
John Wayne Gacey was a murder who used to lure young boys, like 14-18 years old, into his house, rape them and then kill them. Ben does that just wiithout the murdering part.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Here's a picture of her for all the world (or Ravens Blog) to see
Her baby has no face!!

by NgataChance!! on Mar 12, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Not working right...
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/andrea_mcnulty#id=47439
here’s a link haha
by NgataChance!! on Mar 12, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know man,
He is from Ohio. Lima. . . that’s not a pretty place.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think the majority of girls
with a linebacker build post their pictures. I’ll give it to you that that is a funny picture, albeit 3 years old.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
so you realize you are contradicting yourself here, right?
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
I don' tthink the majority do.....
just you. There was no contradiction, just lack of inferring skills.
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Whoa MaLoR your girlfriend really let herself go.
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
oh wait, I see
You’re tired of getting picked on by your fellow fans for posting a TMZ story word for word, so you come over here to pick on me who is clearly out of your league.
I remember now! The boys in 6th grade used to do it! They made fun of girls because that was their way of flirting with them, and deep down inside they secretly wish they could be with them. Like I said, keep on wishin’. Go back to your own blog. a
Number 20, I mean, that guy is superman, for real. - Derrick Mason
Ben sure loves the rape.
Even if he didn’t do it he will be remembered for this for-e-ver, for-e-ver, for-e-ver
by MauiPimpin on Mar 11, 2010 6:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes Sir.
I was going to write that at the bottom of the comment but I decided to have faith in this community. You have reenforced my faith.
“Yea yea, it looks pretty crappy!” One of my favorite lines.
“You bob for turds in the toilet!”
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Ravens fans are not happy Ben is in trouble
but they have no sympathy for a guy who seems to have a tough time learning his previous lessons. We’d prefer to beat Pittsburgh with their full team in there so there are no excuses. Hopefully, we’ll get the chance if Ben can stay out of incarceration. If not, it is only his fault.
As far as Ray, he was not a murderer and was exonerated from those serious charges. He also learned his lesson and stayed out of future trouble.
aka 'Rexx'
and ben has done it twice
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wrong Bruce
I am extremely happy he is in trouble. The more his image is tainted, the more I enjoy it. I could watch stuff on his rape chargers all day. It is quite comical. I hope this affects his career and runs him into the ground.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 11, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope he gets sent to jail so he can't play the rest of his career
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I don't like the majority of Ravens fans.
It also was the day that news broke of another sexual assault allegation against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger…It’s hard to say what made Ravens fans happier. I’m guessing the Roethlisberger mess.
So a woman possibly being sexually assaulted made you happy? Awesome. Some of you fail to grasp the disconnect between football and real life. Nothing about this case should make you happy. Say it is true. Yay! Ben doesn’t play. But at what cost? Some girl was sexually assaulted. You stay classy Baltimore.
I may make “Murderin’ Ray” jokes, but that is because he was clearly innocent and in the wrong place at the wrong time. As of now, we don’t know what really happened in this case. And to think the possibility of two ruined lives gives you jollies? Wow.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Hey, so we share something in common. We have been getting this crap since Ray’s case. We all know Ben is innocent, but Baltimore has to get some joy out of Ben getting in this sort of trouble. I feel terrible for the 2 girls involved for this, I really do.
However I do not feel bad for Ben. He is the QB on the team I hate most, so his negatives are positives for Baltimore. I do not feel bad at all for him not learning his lesson the first time and then allowing for something like this to happen. Now, take your mind off the situation and enjoy a nice Terps ass wooping on GT tomorrow.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Hehe
He is the QB on the team I hate most
(coughbullshitbullshitcough)
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Everyone who is a Ravens fan hates Ben
but to see him in this mess is another thing. The girls may be innocent victims or just looking for their five minutes of fame. Either way, he shouldn’t be in a room at a college bar as a high profile athlete who has already gotten a black eye with younger girls. He should be able to meet a nice girl (preferably woman) his own age without trolling bars and clubs, which is where all the bad news in these types of incidents come from.
However, any edge we have to beat Pittsburgh works for most fans and we will gladly accept your excuses whenever we do.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 12, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
I know, Bruce.
I just like giving MaLoR shit whenever I can, and he does the same to me.
And you only hate Ben because he’s good at that game of footyball. You didn’t hate Tommy Gun as much as Ben, did you? No of course not. You hate our team because now, they are winning, and consistently either getting to the playoffs, or barely missing them.
You hate our team, while we respect yours. How weird is that? They basically play the exact style of football (not so much lately, but still).
Bruce, this is an honest question, nothing intended by it: Were you a Baltimore Colts fan, a Browns fan, or did you become a Ravens fan when they got to Balt from Cleveland?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
And you only hate Ben because he’s good at that game of footyball.
Exactly right. Just because I show some love to you fans over at behind the silk curtain doesn’t mean I don’t want a plane to crash into Heinz Field.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
LOL
I know you’re not joking, but it’s still funny.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
You hate our team, while we respect yours. How weird is that? They basically play the exact style of football (not so much lately, but still).
Man, I cannot tell you how much I hear us called the murders by your fans around here. In Baltimore, we have so many dumb and unintelligent people when it comes to football and they talk so much shit about the Ravens. You bloggers might have some respect for us, but man oh man I have met a ton of jack ass Pitt fans in my life.
They act like the snobby rich kids who live off daddy because they have won some superbowls, when these guys are still working at Roy Rogers.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I'm being totally honest here
You have seen me say this before, so everybody else can blow me if you think I’m just being nice because I’m over here on your blog: If the Ravens were in the NFC, I would root for a Steelers/Ravens SB every year. I LOVE smashmouth football, and there are no better two teams in the NFL at that style of play than ours.
Were the Ravens to be in the NFC, I would absolutely have an Ed Reed jerzee as well.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
But the thing is
That if we played in the NFC, we would be building our team to win that division. We have built our team recently around making sure we are right next to you or better than you. Have we shown in recent years that we can hang with Pitt, no we haven’t. But our team has been built to beat the Steelers first and foremost I believe.
I can tell you that if the Steelers were in a different division, I would still hate them. Something about ugly, fat Bennigans that I just hate. Heins Ward needs to get his teeth knocked out and Holmes beats his chest after every 3 yard catch he makes now (yes I know he was the superbowl hero) Only guys I like on your team are Troy, Spinandfall, and Wallace.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
ROFL!
Spinandfall
That’s AWESOME! Is that a MaLoR original, or did you bite it from someone?
I can tell you that if the Steelers were in a different division, I would still hate them.
Blind hate is irrational.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
That is a MaLoR original. I heard a few of your guys calling him SpinandHall, but after watching him against the Ravens this year, he literally spun every time he got to the line and was tackled immediately.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Did you see the Buttflop Reverse?
I still want the nickname “The Rash” to catch on…It works both ways, for insult and compliment.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Very good.
I think only 3 or 4 people have gotten it. Well, if they had, they never mentioned it, anyway…
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
There are two, actually
When Brian tries to ge them to change the name of the high school “I’ve got James Woods!”, and the one where James Woods steals Peters identity.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
I noticed it when I mocked you like a week ago...
Where is my Kudos you cock gobbler?! I want recognition TOO!
You are undeserving of recognition.
Although I realize the irony of that statement, since I am recognizing you by replying. :P
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Not accurate
Steeler fans don’t seem to respect the Ravens at all and seem to hate us as much as we hate them. The only difference is over the years, the Steelers have won more often- up until this year I tell you!
I was a Baltimore Colts fan since I became aware of football when I was around 10 years old in the late 60’s. I have tons of old Colts memories but am over the move to Indy now. Sort of.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 12, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Holy balls.
The only thing I got out of your post is that you were almost in junior high in the sixties.
Well...
Steeler fans don’t seem to respect the Ravens at all and seem to hate us as much as we hate them.
I respectfully hate your team, if it makes a difference. I don’t hate you guys (for the most part LOL).
It’s actually refreshing to find someone who has never jumped ship. Who did you root for during the interim of teamlessness Baltimore had there?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
No one, much like my father did. All he did was watch NFL and not root for anyone, stick to your city. Something Steeler fans never do.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I sort of slipped over to baseball big time
and watched the NFL but without passion. I liked the Raiders and am embarrassed to admit I rooted for the ’skins in the ’83 Super Bowl, as I was in Georgetown on my first date with the women that would become my wife on the eve of the Redskins SB win. Ouch, that hurt to admit and yes, I am very, very sorry and now loathe them (but still love my wife!).
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 13, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
That's good you still love your wife
even if she is a ’Skins fan.
The Raiders? Really? Interesting….
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
No, no , no
She was never a ‘skins fan, she was just “in the moment” that night! I liked the bad boy image of the Silver & Black and also hated the Steelers even back then but they were the best team of the ’70’s and had some amazing players, but I loved rooting for the Raiders in those classic games with Pittsburgh!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 15, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that why we have tons of fans all over the world, cause all the people from Pittsburgh jump ship? Good to know.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 13, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
MaLoR's comment got me thinking...
I’ve heard so often about “I hate ‘Team X’ because ‘Team X’ has the worst fans.” I think that there’s a significant percentage of football fans that tend to be the loud, obnoxious, drunken, frat-boy types, and that one can drive anywhere, find a nice concentration of them, and then conclude that any team has a huge collection of douche-bags as supporters.
However, those types rarely have the thinking power to write anything intelligent on a blog, and consequently, most don’t stick around very long in the online community.
I have to say that most people get along pretty well with each other on these SBN sites, and I always wince a little when I find someone posting a “look what the fans over at such-and-such are saying about us!” because it’s a little childish and usually blown out of proportion. (Not referring to this blog, btw)
I guess, I’m saying that MaLoR, and people like him shouldn’t be judging us collectively based on how a bunch of campus blow-hards act.
by Weirtonite on Mar 13, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
"One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preperation."
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Mar 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
ill rec that
Ive been saying that for a long time. People say they hate Steeler fans cause their all douchebags. Well, we have ours, you have yours, and every other team has theirs.
Now of course the Steelers (due to their recent success) have many bandwagon fans that are total douches, but those aren’t Steeler fans, they are band wagon fans. The Pats have their fair share, any recently successful team will have band wagon fans. So don’t hate a team because of their bandwagon fans.
Basically, if you’re going to hate a team hate them because they are your rival, they are not your team, maybe they have lame colors…………..but never hate a team because of their fans.
I can't disagree with that assessment
as the charge person here on The Beatdown, I always preach maintaining your appropriateness and respecting other teams’ fans’ passion for their team and as long as our visitors and guests do not come here to start or get us involved in a name calling contest, then anyone and everyone’s welcome.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 18, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Except for Philly
Okay, tongue firmly in cheek: c’mon, booing Santa Claus? Philly fans, I believe are universally hated… Even Redskin fans hate Philly fans; and I absolutely love tormenting Redskin fans…
The worst. What makes them worse is that they deny that they have a shitty franchise, then when we try to criticize them it is like we just killed their dog.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Michael Vick reference?
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by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 22, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I Represent that Comment...
fan(s) that tend to be the loud, obnoxious, drunken, frat-boy types…
Well, used to be anyway. I have actually dropped a few pounds and do not get as drunk as often. I wonder if there is a correlation there…
*Resent
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by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 22, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
These women just don't know how to do it (If they are hoping for their 15 min of fame or just want money... if they really were raped/assaulted it is of course different).
Travis Henry’a, Antonio Cromartie’s, and Willis’ womens make mad bank by getting pregnant and getting 10% of their monthly paycheck in child support… so a child of a 100 million dollar QB could get you 10 million. If they were really after money they should get knocked up instead of civil suits (I know only one is a civil suit, but maybe the other turns into that). DNA test and boom, no questions asked payday.
You should know first hand
We will be just fine if DD has to take the reigns. Hand the ball off more, balance the offense and only make him throw when he needs to (like Ben’s first 2 years). And Dixon can be a Vick-esque style QB.
If we have a healthy Troy and can get a stud CB or LB in the first round, I think we will be just fine.
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We will be just fine if DD has to take the reigns.
You’re joking right? If I said we would be just fine if Troy Smith took the reigns, you would be saying 4-12 record for the Ravens. Dixon played “well” against us, but ultimately lost the game for you.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Dixon > Smith
Yes, he lost his first start ever. So did Manning, Favre, Moon, etc. Who cares? Not to add it was on the road against the team’s most heated rival.
Dixon clearly surpassed what anyone expected from him that game. He may have lost the game for them in OT, but he also put them in the lead late in the 4th only to have the D surrender a TD. With significant practice and time behind center Dixon would do just fine.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Not sure what makes Dixon better than Smith. I guess it is just because he is a Steeler right? I do not think Dixon has a better throwing motion than Smith and there is a reason he won the Heisman.
And if given a chance to start on a team, Smith would do just fine. But again, you love him cause he is a Steeler and we love Troy because he is a Raven, and is better.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
There was a very good chance Dixon would have been Heisman if he hadn’t gotten injured his senior year. So Smith’s Heisman is irrelevant.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Of course it is Johnny boy. You are right, I am wrong. I could care less about this argument, it is stupid to compare two back-up QBs. You think Dixon is better, I think Smith is better. Lets just leave it there.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Well our STARTER doesn't rape people sooo....
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by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 12, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
…and we love Troy because he is a Raven…
Just because you have Smith’s poster on your bedroom ceiling doesn’t mean the rest of us idolize him. I know he’ll crawl to Cleveland, but I’d drive him myself to get him and his whiny agent out of town.
Based on what I’ve seen from the two quarterbacks in regular season play, I’d rather have Dixon as my backup. As long as he’s wearing black and piss, though, I’m happy to see him throw picks to Kruger during clutch drives.
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Amen to that
I’m cool with Troy since hes a Raven(for now), but beyond that I got no love for him.
And yea, I would much rather have Dixon as my backup then Troy… Not even close.
And basing your argument off of 1 game seems stupid doesn't it?
Yea, again, he played “well” He had that good run because of a defensive brain fart on our part, its not like he was Michael Vicking people like Vick did against the Vikings that one game. He ran in clear space because we made a mistake. I can recall maybe 2 passes that were fairly decent in that game, but again, he lost the game for you. He might have brought you back in the 4th because of our mistakes, but he lost the game for you.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Riiight…I forgot the nobody can beat the Ravens…they only lose because they make mistakes occasionally. Dixon had another huge run in that game, where he gashed up your defense. It was called back by a stupid holding call on Colon that wasn’t near the play. Dixon looked great on his feet and definitely made your players miss. Also, I thought exposing a team’s mistakes was called being a football player? How do you think Rice gashed up our D in that game? Farrior made a mistake and so did Clark on his two big plays. Rice made a good play, just the same as Dixon did on his play.
With our WR corp and a bit of good coaching he could develop his passing and we would only need him to throw it maybe 15-20 times. That’s not difficult.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Yes you are right. I admitted it above. Go Terps.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Dixon is a much better QB than Smith IMO.
Not a huge body of evidence for either, but Dixon looked a lot better in Ben’s absence then Smith has in his chances. Very fast and would have been a higher draft pick if not injured. Smith was healthy and still had to wait until the 5th round.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 12, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Flacco didn't lose his first game ever...
Just saying…
by NgataChance!! on Mar 13, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
And technically, Ben lost his first game. The first ever game experience he got was against us in the beginning of the season when Maddox went down, Ben came in for the first time in his career and lost, there was plenty of time left to.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I was watching that game, and thought to myself, “Man if he can’t bring us back in this game, he’s probably going to rape some chicks.”
by Phantaskippy on Mar 13, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha me too!!!
I just knew it right there… And see what us psychics can do!?
by NgataChance!! on Mar 13, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
And then Ben went and won 15 straight
Flacco did not. Also, he had the highest QB rating ever for a rookie and won Off. RotY. Once again, Flacco did not.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Yea, well Flacco was the first rookie QB to win 2 playoff games, while Ben wasn’t. Also, Flacco has thrown for the most yards by any 2 year QB in history. Ben didn’t.
Yes, Ben has two superbowls. I am aware of this.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
That is irrelevant about the 2 playoff wins
They both went to the AFCCG. Ben just put his team in a better position so they did not have to win two games to get to that game.
Yeah your second point is worthless because Ben won a SB in his second year.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Can't argue that
Until we win under FLacco, Ben and the Steelers can talk as much as they want, as much as it irritates me!
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 16, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I just gotta say
to call out Pitt for hypocrisy isn’t the best thing to do if you’re a Ravens fan. They have their share of troubled people too.
Argue this all you want but I will send Ben to rape you.
Ray Lewis thing is in the past and the Stallworth thing was one of the most messed up situations I have ever heard of from 2 years ago. The Ben stuff is of recently and at least our guys are not repeat offenders.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
well
the first time for Ben was utter bull$hit, everyone knows that. And this one hasnt been determined yet.
You may be right, but
the issue is his judgement of even getting into a similar predicament!
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 15, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
…to call out Pitt for hypocrisy isn’t the best thing to do…
The Pittsburgh fans spent the last decade characterizing the Ravens organization as murderers and thugs, but now turnabout isn’t fair play?
If that isn’t hypocrisy, then I don’t know what is. For your reference:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy
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im sorry
I didnt realize you knew every Pitt fan. I don’t call Ray Lewis a murderer. Not every Steeler fan is a douche okay, dont treat us all the same.
I do however call Suggs a thug, because he is.
And please dont insult my intelligence by linking to a dictionary.
It's ok for James Harrison to punch women in the face though...
Because his GF wouldn’t let him baptize his child… she had it coming right? So that makes him not a thug?
And it was cool with the Rooney family that he did that because he can sack the QB, but the same offseason (2008) a special teamer (pardon me for not remembering a scrubs name) hit his GF and was immediately cut…
Just saying you ownership condones violence just as much as any organization as long as you can play the game of football.
I don't consider Harrison a thug...
just a dude with serious anger management issues. He is also kind of a douchebag (the white House thing comes to mind). But I wouldn’t define him as a thug. I guess it all depends on your definition of thug. And no I don’t think she had it coming, what a ridiculous thing to say. I severely doubt it was ‘ok’ with the Rooney family…
The other guy who hit his girlfriend was our 3rd WR Cedric Wilson.
And I wouldn’t say our ownership condones violence (or crime for that matter) as much as every other organization. I mean look at how many criminals the Bengals have signed. I don’t see the Steelers doin that, or most the other teams in this league.
But anyway, you’re missing my point I think. The original post of this thread is just totally blasting the Steelers for something their QB did, and is still in the legal process. All I said was every team has players that mess up, that really shouldn’t reflect a whole lot on the organization (unless you’re the Bengals).
Of course you wouldn’t describe him as a thug, he is on your team.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
cmon Malor
give me some credit, I think hes a douche and an asshole, but someone who watches cartoons every morning just doesn’t come off to me as thuggish. It all depends on your opinion of the word thug.
Ben is more of a immature kid
that a thug, and just doesn’t learn that quick aboutr what he can or cannot do vs. what he should do.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 16, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And Suggs is? Wanna see how much of a thug Suggs is? Here is a very thuggish quote about his weight issue.
"I’m a grown man, I can’t eat like my kids anymore. My little girl is my ultimate tempter. She’s like, ‘Cookie, daddy,’ and hands me one. I have to eat it."
Some thug, stealing his daughter’s cookies.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Not every Steeler fan is a douche okay, dont treat us all the same.
Since you’re such a fine, upstanding model of virtue and tolerance (your well-reasoned opinion of Suggs notwithstanding, of course), the Ravens fan base is out of line for throwing back at the Steelers fans the same thing we’ve been getting for the past decade?
Here’s a clue: nobody here cares about you. Nobody here is going to dig through your past posts to find out just how much respect you sling around. All we know is that we have every inbred vagrant from western Pennsylvania stopping by on a regular basis to remind us just how vile the Ravens organization is for employing somebody who may or may not have had something to do with a murderer. So, when we get the chance to respond in kind, we expect just a little bit of magnanimity.
And please dont insult my intelligence by linking to a dictionary.
We here at the Beatdown like to break a mental sweat, too. If you still have trouble comprehending the hypocrisy of the Steeler fan base trying to claim the moral high ground with this sexual assault allegation, then I’ll be happy to link you to the dictionary as frequently as is necessary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy
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I didn’t say the Ravens fan base was out of line, I defended myself from your stereotyping of me and made a criticism of the original post of this thread. Nowhere did I jab at the whole Ravens fanbase, because doing so is ridiculous.
I didn’t expect anyone here to care about me, I don’t expect you to dig through fanposts to see what i say. Afterall, I don’t post here very often because posting on a rivals board is a dangerous thing to do, people may be quick to toss aside your opinion.
Inbred vagrant from western pennsylvannia? Well thats just plain dumb. Sure you get your fair share of retarded Steeler fans who talk trash (as we have our fair share of retarded ravens fans on our site) but not all of us are doing that. I don’t talk trash, I see Phantaskippy and Johnny_S on here and they are reasonable.
and once again, insulting me, you are ruthless man. I was just asking for some for some fair treatment but apparently thats asking a lot. I regret throwing my opinion out there, congrats you win.
posting on a rivals board is a dangerous thing to do, people may be quick to toss aside your opinion.
I never learned my lesson.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
thats because we have our fair share of people who know that you have a reasonable opinion. Only the douches ignore or bash you because of your fanhood (im not sure thats even a word).
Let's chill a bit on this
You have to respect another fansw passion for their team, just as we want other teams’ fans to understand our passion for the Ravens. Try to be above the name calling and personal attacks as I have heard from the powers that be that we should all lighten up a bit at The Beatdown.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 16, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
was this directed at me?
I’m not sure. I’ve been chill. I’m the one getting bashed for what I thought was a fairly reasonable response to an open thread.
If this is directed at Ampallang then it makes sense.
Directed at anyone
who cannot “chill” but you all are cool w/ me.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 18, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
as we have our fair share of retarded ravens fans on our site
What you trying to say here, huh!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
i wasn’t jabbing at you, or Raven, or BaltimoreWarrior, etc. But the retarded ones know who they are.
not that anyone is mentioning anyone specific…..
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 16, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I was just jokin around with ya. You the man.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
That’s Scheyer getting a face full of nuts if you didn’t know.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
at the risk of starting a duke-maryland argument
Duke barely lost to Maryland at Maryland…………..Duke dominated Maryland at Duke…
that is a nice GIF though, I’ll give you credit for that.
Well Duke is the better team obviously. Don’t make me riot again.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
/thread
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And Hines Ward isnt?....
A thug?? Hines Ward is a badd a$$ mofo who is as thuggish as they get in the NFL. dirty dirty dirty.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Mar 16, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
Ward smiles way too much
to be considered “thuggish.” Sissy-ish, perhaps, but not a bad mofo by any means. If he would hit you when you are expecting it, then he would be abad man. Only Muhammed Ali was a “bad man!”
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 16, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
first person I heard of who considers Hines Ward a thug.
Sure from some view points he may be a dirty player but that doesn’t make you a thug.
I don't personally think he is a thug... a douche with that fake ass hokie smile
But I could see the arguement… he goes out of his way to hurt people and than stands over them talking trash… if Suggs did that you would cry thug. Again, I don’t see it that way personally, but I could just see the flip side too.
Hey,
I will eat your thumbs in wii resort sports.
Effe Hampstead.
I will mash you in anything Wii related. And I just moved to Hampstead about 4 years ago, used to live right in the heart of B-More County in the Owings Mills/Reisterstown area. Carroll County is full of inbreds. Go to Baughers and drink some cider.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Hey! It wasn't my choice to live in that county!
I hate that I’m the only liberal in that entire area. I had to stop explaining my job to people because they look at me like I’m retarded for working with drug addicts. Sort of a “why would you want to help those people” look.
People in Carroll County questioning that?
Dude, that place is the heroin capital of Maryland. It has been infested with drugs forever.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I know, I went to high school there.
But it really isn’t that bad if you look at the stats… it just had a problem for a few years while I was in high school in the last 90’s/early 2000’s.
I was surprised at how bad the city was when I moved back… way worse than I expected, and I had low expectations.
And the look they give is less because of the drug addict aspect and more of a judgement of working primarily with destitute minorties… carroll county is not exactly supportive of the poor, let alone poor blacks.
They used to deal drugs outside of Cranberry Mall when I was younger. Crazy looking kids standing outside the front doors while I was going there for that awsome arcade they used to have there.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Damn they did have an awesome arcade there!
One of the last that you saw anywhere outside of the beach.
That was my Friday and Saturday night through middle schoolish. Area 51 and lethal enforcers like whoa.
What's up
with all the car burnings with bodies inside and double murders all of a sudden in Hampstead? I always thought it was a nice, quiet small town that only hosted Little League Tournaments for excitement.
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by Bruce Raffel on Mar 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Well what makes...
Suggs a thug in your opinion?
I didnt realize you knew every Pitt fan. I don’t call Ray Lewis a murderer. Not every Steeler fan is a douche okay, dont treat us all the same.
I do however call Suggs a thug, because he is.
I assume you meant he is a thug because he talks trash in the media and called hines out? Ward talks plenty of smack to the media too.
However, if you have some other reason to call Suggs a thug, than the comparison is negated.
by Rayisyourdaddy on Mar 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That is pretty much the wrong argument to make. The correct one is that all your LB’s are sissies who cry when little Hines Ward comes and whacks them when they weren’t looking.
I fully expect Suggs to lightly tap a QB before he sacks him, and then give him time to turn and face his tackler, because, you know, hitting a QB when he isn’t facing you is pretty much immoral.
I’m sorry, but getting blindsided is called a lack of field awareness, offensive players have to have it, defensive players do too. Whining about it when you talk about taking out other players and hurting people, that’s just pathetic. It’s like the 3rd grade bully the first time someone punches him, he always goes crying to teacher.
Sorry I showed up too late to really get in on the fun.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 18, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
At least you are admitting that Heins is a 3rd grade child. I am really sorry to say it to you, but I will cheer when Wards gets carted off the field on a stretcher, I really will cheer and laugh at him. It is just one of my life long goals to see it happen. Again, I am sorry.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Guess you don’t hate Suggs as much as I hate Ward. Just be amazing to see someone knock the teeth out his head, or break his back. Ben used to be on this list, but was recently taken off after South Park made fun of his sex addiction. That was enough for me.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Wow, that is pretty serious. I reserve that level of hatred for people who end sentences with prepositions and people who drive on the shoulder to try and bypass traffic.
People who root for Michigan State or the Browns should just be put down, it’s a mercy thing.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 19, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
to me they just made fun of Ben for being dumb, they were mostly making fun of society for how it reacts when they realize men like sex. I thought it was a pretty clever episode.

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