Mock Drafts Have Changed
After the recent flurry of free agent signings and trades, the Mock Drafts around the internet and on TV have changed a bunch. With the Baltimore Ravens trading for WR Anquan Boldin, the chance that they use their first round draft pick on a wide receiver has lessened considerably. They had a visit from former Indianapolis Colts CB Marlin Jackson and although he left without signing a contract and is visiting other teams, if he was to sign, that might also limit the chance that the
That leaves either the defensive end or tight end as what appears to be the teams' biggest needs at this point. However, a lot can and will change, not only for the Ravens, but for the rest of the NFL, prior to the draft.
NFL.com has a new Mock Draft which has a bunch of changes from what most looked like only a week ago. Based on the Combine, some players draft stock has soared and others have taken what could be a very expensive hit. For example, Florida (and Maryland native) cornerback Joe Haden's slow 40-yard dash time has him dropping ten spots from what was looking to be the Cleveland Browns at #8 to the Pittsburgh Steelers at #18. How many millions of dollars could that slow 40 time cost Haden if that happens? At the same time, Texas safety Earl Thomas' stock jumped from his 40-yard dash time at the Combine and his versatility has him in the top ten, according to NFL.com.
Since the Ravens signed a top wide receiver, this Mock Draft has the Ravens going in another direction, selecting Florida State cornerback Patrick Robinson, probably the best corner left in the draft at that point. Not a bad selection, considering that Lardarius Webb's status will be up in the air for awhile. However, the guy a lot of readers, including me, of Baltimore Beatdown want to see in Ravens' purple and black, Florida's defensive end Carlos Dunlap, is projected to be going to the New Orleans Saints with the last pick of the first round.
Click here for the link to the NFL.com Mock Draft.
Here is the bio on Patrick Robinson on FSU's official site.
Below is a YouTube video as well (yes, he DOES have dreads!):
Florida State Cornerback Patrick Robinson has a big day on defense vs Maryland Terrapins (via BXSportsCenter)
0 recs |
43 comments
|
Comments
Eh... Robinson...
Give me a Kyle Wilson or a Devin McCourty before Robinson. Robinson is inconsistent, not 6’, and plays only when he wants too.
Yeah, but I put that out there
based on those other guys not being around when we pick, although McCourty might be and is a good choice. Guys who take a play off as they say, in college, will usually pick up their game at the pro level. Robinson is a very physical corner, great at stopping the run game. Remember how hard Webb played the run? He wasn’t afraid to throw his body at the end sweep, and as good as that was, perhaps it is part of the reason he got injured, as he is not that big, but plays a lot bigger, just like Robinson.
PS – Marlin Jackson signed w/ Philly before leaving there after visiting yesterday. He will actually play free safety and apparently weren’t as worried about his knee(s) as the Ravens were.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 11, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Tight End or Defensive End
Jermaine Gresham or Brandom graham
Graham will probably be long gone
and I don’t want to draft a TE in the first unless he is another Tony Gonzo or something… which he isn’t… and he is coming off a knee injury.
I’d rather have Dunlap, Wilson, Weatherspoon, or Bryant (as NFL.COM still has him on the board).
See, I'd rather have a pass rusher as ell
but I think Gresham will be there at #25 and might even slip to the 2nd round. The only teams in front of us that I see taking him are Denver and Cincy, and Denver’s pick is way too high to use on him.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 11, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Greshem should be there, yes...
but Brandon Graham is typically projected in the top 20.
I hope Cincy pulls the trigger on him so there is no chance we can… kinda like DHB last year… I cheered when he was chosen 7th so we couldn’t pick him as everyone wanted.
There are quite a few short sighed, IMO, Bengals fans who want Gresham
I think that unless he shows something extra special the 1st is too high and risky for a TE, especially one coming off of a knee injury. Gresham did seem to move pretty well at the combine so I wouldn’t be temped to tear my eyes out if they take him. He does have talent. I am a big fan of high picks in the Oline so I would hope Iutapi is there and we get him. I don’t thin your Oline can ever be good enough. If I were a GM I would draft one in the top 3 spots every year if there was a good one out there.
The only “skil” position player I would consider is Dez Bryant if he falls to us. He is falling down the boards a bit so maybe he could be a Bengal. Before FA I felt the Bengals were pretty well on an even par. We both signed a couple of WRs with some talent and troubled pasts but when you beat us to the punch on Bolden you definately pulled ahead and with Mason coming back your WR corps is pretty improved and solid. My only concern with both Mason and Bolden is thet they are both more possession receivers and not really fast. They aren’t slow but not really fast by NFL standards. They will however make your passing attack much more potent. Kelly Washington was not the answer, an OK stop gap, but a #4 backup.
Teh Bengals countered with A. Bryant. He is a faster than Bolden and has good hands. He gets out of his breaks well and will make defenses play both sides of the field. All in all I would rather have Bolden though. It is not out of the question that TO could still be Bengal. Chad has said he will take a pay cut to get him but the odd are against it. He has lost some speed but he is a great route runner and that is an under rated quality IMO.
We will have to see where this Big Ben goes, and it is possible that he was a bit of a victim here and league action is still premature but the more details I read the more Big Ben appears to have some trouble. The Steelers will not be the same without him, Ward isn’t getting any younger and their Oline needs some work. You never count the Steelers out but they just may fall off a bit.
I think you, like the Bengals, need to be careful not to reach for a particular position but tend toward the BPA in one of the areas you may consider the weakest. I would however be looking for a stup MLB for Rey to be coaching and the safety and corner position.
"Coincidence is God's way of staying anonymous"
Good post,
I’d take Benn or Thomas too if I was the Bengals. You guys don’t have to many needs. Carson Palmer needs to ge the explosive passing game going again. Bryant was a nice addition, Ocho Cinco looks like he lost a step(or he was getting triple covered). If Earl Thomas is still around for you guys, that would be my top pick though.
I think it’s funny that the Bengals just signed Antonio Bryant to the same contract that the Ravens gave Boldin. It seems like they WAY overpaid. Bryant doesn’t have half the production of Boldin, is NOT a character guy, has never made a Pro Bowl and is the same age as Boldin. It blows my mind how good Ozzie is at these negotiations and how stupid the Bengals continue to be.
Yea, I brought that up earlier and Bengals guys still tried arguing that Bryant was just as good of a pick up as Boldin. We gave Mason 2 years worth 8 million to be our #2 and he is 36 and putting up better numbers than Bryant.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Yeah. I was just commenting over there too. Good conversation, but that guy is not knowledgeable. I remember him going on and on about the Bengals after the draft last off-season. Now, he has been embolden by the success that they had last season. I cannot wait until the Bengals are put back in their place just like the fluke 2007-2008 Browns.
I think Cincy is now in the same boat as us
in that they already signed another WR so they won’t use their first pick on one. PErhaps a TE, but not a wideout even if someone like Dez Bryant falls to them, or us.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 11, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for going after Gresham if he's still there at #25
With Boldin in Baltimore now, and Mason resigned, a young TE seems like the last piece we need in this offense. We can always grab a WR in the later rounds. Don’t get me wrong, I think we need re-establish our pass rush, but if we bring in a TE than Oz can focus all his later picks on bringing in some youth for the defense. And we all know how good Ozzie is with his picks in the later rounds.
"I kill myself in small amounts"
by StuckInUtah on Mar 11, 2010 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But to bring in a TE with the first round pick
just to bring in a the best TE this year isn’t necessarily the best move. Compared to next year’s TE’s how does he stack up? Is he really worth the 25th pick when there are at least 4 or 5 TE’s people are talking about going in the first two rounds? If he isn’t way way better than the 2nd TE, I don’t want to draft him at 25. If we trade down to 34 and draft him, that would be different.
To me it’s like RB’s… I would take a first round RB liek JLew was or Peterson if they are obvious top ten talent… but I wouldn’t draft a RB in the late first round because aren’t far enough ahead of the 2nd round RB talen to warrant taking at 25ish. I would rather try to grad the last DE or LB or CB that is head and shoulders above the rest.
I would kind of treat it like fantasy football. Do you draft a TE early because you need one? No, you wait til the middle rounds because the talent seperation isn’t there… the top three are all the same level. However, you would make sure you get the last of the elite players… Gates and Braylon Edwards isn’t as good of a combo as a Andre Johnson and John Carlson.
Valid point
But last year we were looking at Pettigrew before Detroit drafted him, and this year we’ve been eyeing Gresham. So how many years should we wait until a TE we’re interested falls to a convenient round to draft him? I mean if we can pick up a talented TE in the second round, then by all means let’s do it. But let’s not just sign a guy to fill a roster spot, we need someone who can replace Heap in the near future, because he is not getting any younger.
"I kill myself in small amounts"
by StuckInUtah on Mar 11, 2010 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
anybody looked at Ed Dickson?
TE out of Oregon- not the best blocker, but by no means a slouch. Great hands, good speed. He is looking like a 3rd rounder possibly 4th.
I am a little biased towards the ducks, so I dont have an even appraisal…
to borrow some links from another duck…(http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2010/3/12/1369590/quack-fix-ducks-fall-to-cal-in#comments)
Dickson is number 83.
Blocking:
Down in the Civil War with the Rose Bowl on the line on National TV, Dickson seals off the inside then releases outside to block the CB, springing LaMichael James for a 50+yd. TD run and to take the lead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lir8iXfWF8
A few plays earlier, Dickson blows the DE (#19) off the line to help LeGarrette Blount get the edge and score a key TD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paGtYJsnbXU
Big time catches (aka clutch):
From the Arizona game, which was on National TV, lose and you’re relegated to the Holiday Bowl, win and you’re 1 game away from the Rose Bowl and Pac-10 title.
Game-tying TD with 6 seconds left:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6935NeHoP0
Key catch in 2OT that set up the winning TD run 2 plays later:
Funny
I remember watching that game (incredible football game by the way) and I was very impressed by Dickson. When I watch football, I like to watch the blockers right when the ball is snapped, then focus on the WR or RB. Dickson is a great blocking TE and you are right about him not being a slouch. Maybe not the best all-around TE, but he is very solid.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
BPA...
It’s great that we need a DE, but would you pass on a top 15 talent that drops that far just because you need a DE? That’s part of the Ozzie philosophy (and Steelers, Patriots, etc) that doen’t reach 5, 10, 20 spots for a DE just because we need one.
Right. You won’t find a bigger fan of the BPA strategy than me. However, I thought that we were talking about the Raven’s needs. That’s why I made the above point.
Furthermore, the comment above argued that the Ravens should draft Graham as a DE. I was also trying to point out that Graham could not effectively play a 3-4 DE.
Furthermore, I never mentioned him as DE... and I didn't see who did.
So Shake my Bag. I was talking about drafting BPA, not whether he/she/it should/would/could play which position.
James Harrison is an OLB
But are you telling me you would rather have Dwan Edwards that a high impact player like Harrison?
Of course I’d rather have Harrison over Edwards. That’s a stupid question and an irrelevant comparison. A more relevant question/comparison would be… Would I rather have Brandon Graham or Jared Odrick. In my opinion, that is a toss-up.
I’ve heard Newsome and DeCosta say: When two players are comparable, it’s best to take the need. Since DE is a bigger need than OLB, I may take Odrick in the case above.
That's only the case when you have the guys at the same level. Most have Graham several spots above Odrick
Also, it isn’t a stupid question because you can’t name me three amazing 5 technique DE’s that make a huge impact. The best out there are no name guys around the NFL like Aaron Smith in Pitt. In a 3-4 you want your OLB’s to be the huge stars making all the plays. That’s why Woodley and Harrison rack up 30 sacks between them and Smith flies under the radar but is one of the better DE’s. Shake my bag.
Shake my bag?
Is this the(your) new phrase that replaces something like “In your face!”, “suck my balls,” etc.?
It’s true that the linebackers are the play-makers in a 3-4, but the lineman are equally (if not more) critical to the overall effectiveness of the defense. Ask any knowledgeable Pittsburgh fan and they will tell you that the loss of Smith last season was a huge reason why their defense suffered and the sacks for the outside linebackers were way down.
Most def.
I just meant that having an(other) elite level OLB is a good problem to have versus a potential reach. I’m not an NFL scout so I don’t get too into whether or not stuff was a reach until after the draft (perfect example Chris Johnson… thought he was a reach until I saw him play)… I just would rather have too many elite players at one position than overreach for a position of need. I completely agree on Smith being a huge reason for a dip in production for the Pitt D that is almost always 1/2/3 in the league.
Shake my bag is just a retarded thing a buddy of mine and I used to say in college and I’m bringing it back damnit. Just offering the luxury of someone to “get deez balls” … along those immature lines.
Which is why Pittsburgh
never spends big bucks for LB’s in Free Agency, because they always think they can find the next great Steeler LB, which they usually can and do.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 11, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to see the Ravens get a dominate pass rushing DE to replace Pryce but don’t see any players that make sense in the first two rounds and could effectively rush the passer from the five technique. Really, the only players in the draft who would be better at the five technique than players currently on the roster AND that would make sense to draft with the Raven’s picks in the first two rounds are as follows:
Ndamukong Suh
Gerald McCoy
Jared Odrick
I know that it’s a short list, but a good 3-4 DE is very rare. Obviously, Suh and McCoy will be long gone before the Ravens pick, but Odrick would be an intriguing pick at 25. Also, I’m not saying that the Ravens won’t draft another pass rusher. I just don’t see any other players that can be immediately effective playing the 3-4 DE and that make sense in the first two rounds. Most of the other guys that I’ve seen would either 1) take a year to bulk up before they can play DE effectively or 2) make more sense playing OLB in the Ravens 3-4.
That being said, I actually think Odrick may be a good pick at 25. He was a beast in the senior bowl.
No freaking way the Ravens pass on Dez Bryant and Sean Weatherspoon for Robinson.
I like Robinson, but there are so many better players left at 25 in the NFL mock draft.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 11, 2010 1:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps better than Robinson
but I say they pass on Bryant and any other WR if they fall to them.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 11, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
No
Bryant is Boldin 2.0
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 11, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
LOL...thats loafty
Bryant might be good, but Quan he ain’t
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Mar 12, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
5 technique
I am a big football fan, but I am not familiar with what exactly makes a guy a good fit for 5 technique. So forgive my ignorance when I ask…What about Terrance Cody? Would he be a good fit? He used to be talked about as a 1st rounder, but now, after his senior season, they are talking about him being a 2nd rounder. Is he a good fit? He is a beast last I looked.
Cody will be a good DT
but his body is a little soft and we just don’t need to go there right early in the draft, as we need a pass rusher and he is more of a run plugger.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 12, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind robinson but I would rather go DE with the first pick and go after a corner/TE with our next depending who’s available. I’m really kind of open to taking who’s the best available at those positions. We don’t have very many weaknesses on our team so I will take anyone who will make us a better team.
by AV23 on Mar 11, 2010 11:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree
and for that, I “rec’d” your comment. I’d do the exact same thing, but probably go corner before TE in round 2.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Mar 12, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions















