Ravens @ Raiders: Prediction & Gametime Open Thread
Keep it here on Baltimore Beatdown all through the day as we watch what happens in the early games before watching the Baltimore Ravens face the Oakland Raiders in the final game of the regular season. Use this space to post your thoughts and comments on the progression of the game in this 'Open Thread.'
The playoffs begin this afternoon for the Baltimore Ravens as they are now in a "win or else" predicament starting today at the Oakland Raiders. Thanks to the rest of the AFC contenders cooperating with us by losing just enough to allow us to be in this position to control our own destiny. You can say the Ravens are backing into the playoffs or they have earned the right to make the post season, but either way, today they stand on the brink of entering the hallowed ground for two seasons in a row for only the second time in franchise history, the first being the Super Bowl year and the following one (2000-01).
However, today's game will not be a pushover or more specifically, a rollover by the 5-10 Raiders. In front of their home fans in the final game of the Raiders season, they will want to go out with a win and to knock us out of the playoffs would just make their season a bit more tolerable. Remember, this is the same Raiders team that beat the Cincinnati Bengals here and even went into Pittsburgh and defeated the Steelers. Luckily, these are also the same Raiders who lost at Cleveland last week under their third QB of the season in Charlie Frye.
Frye has not exactly had the same positive effect on the team that previous QB, Bruce Gradkowski had in defeating those other two AFC North teams. Gradkowski is out for today's game, leaving Frye to start and former #1 overall draft pick JaMarcus Russell as his backup. RB Justin Fargas is doubtful, but the Raiders boast two other solid backs in Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. If the Ravens can slow or stop the Raiders running game and force them to put their success on the narrow shoulders of Frye, then they can throw a variety of stunts and blitzes needed to get the turnovers to make this game a runaway victory.
Offensively, the Ravens should be able to run the ball against a defense that is underrated at home, although they do rank 27th overall (15th-pass, 27th-rush). The Ravens running attack will open the passing lanes for QB Joe Flacco to find his receivers and the recent emergence of the long lost Todd Heap has been a pleasant surprise the past two games in which he has scored twice both weeks. Flacco needs to have a solid game at a critical time as he has not played well in games in these type of critical situations. He has rolled up the bulk of his stats in games against lesser opponents, especially at home this season. On the road and in games against quality opponents, he has shown flashes of brilliance, but has fallen prey to those game changing mistakes that has plagued the team in their seven losses, all to playoff bound or challenging teams.
It would be nice to see RB Ray Rice set some team records in all-purpose yardage and continue to earn his Pro Bowl selection while wreaking havoc in Oakland's defense both rushing and receiving. I'd like to see both Willis McGahee and LeRon McClain get the rock to conserve Rice's smaller body for the playoffs and spread the "wealth" around on the ground. Likewise the same for players like Derrick Mason, so we can see more of Demetrius Williams on the receiving end of Flacco's rockets
While the Oakland Raiders do not fit into the "quality team" category that the other teams that we lost to did, they are very dangerous and this game, regardless of the opponent, definitely falls into the "critical" category. Limit the mistakes and of course that includes the ill-timed penalties that this team is embarrassingly known league-wide for committing in record numbers, and we should have every chance to emerge the victor and prepare for another game at either the Cincinnati Bengals or New England Patriots.
To me, there is no way the Ravens lay an egg, as there is way too much on the line for them to not continue to beat the teams that we have been expected to and have done all season. The Raiders will not continue to fight once they far behind by a score or two early in the game. Don't allow them to stay within striking distance, especially with the advantage they have in the kicking game, as I mentioned in a story earlier this week. Play with the intensity and urgency that this team needs to do when the playoffs start for real next week and this game should be over by halftime. Then the Ravens can actually rest their key and walking wounded in the second half as they cruise to a victory and get out of town healthy and ready for the next "season" starting next week.
Ravens: 24-10
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1ST!!!!!!!!!
The key to success in life is doing what people constantly say you cannot do.
by Baltimore Warrior on Jan 3, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions
Yes you are
and to think I just posted this a few moments ago and you must have stayed up all night waiting in line in the cold to get into your local coffee house to purchase computer time to be the first in here! Congrats!
aka 'Rexx'
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by Baltimore Warrior on Jan 3, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
NOOOOOO IM THIRD
24-10 seems right, we’ve done a good job of not overlooking teams
"We're only going to score 17 points?"
Ravens 34
Raiders 12
Hopefully Mason plays today, we will need him. Get Reed in there for maybe 20-25 plays and get him warmed up. Give it to Rice 25 times, LeRon 12 times and Willis 10 times. Lets control the clock, make this quick and get outta there.
I heard Adam Schefter today talking about Cam Cameron going to the Bills for the head coaching job. Wouldn’t mind that and then get Weis or Leach in here.
Not going to be able to celebrate the victory and all the playoff talk for most of this week. Time to go winter fishing in Virginia till Wednesday.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Man, I have never seen Jameson Hensley give so much credit to us before with this.
Despite having a talented front four, Oakland has allowed an NFL-high 21 rushing touchdowns. The Raiders rank 29th against the run, giving up 149.9 yards on the ground. Teams avoid throwing the ball against Oakland and attack its undersized linebackers. Last Sunday, Cleveland’s Jerome Harrison gashed the Raiders for 148 yards. The Ravens have the seventh-best ground game in the NFL and have run for 19 touchdowns, which is tied for third in the league. Ray Rice has averaged 131.3 rushing yards in his past three games. He had 141.yards on the ground last Sunday at Pittsburgh, which had the NFL’s top run defense. Edge: RAVENS
Ravens pass offense vs. Raiders pass defense: In his past three games, Joe Flacco has averaged 210 passing yards, throwing for seven touchdowns and one interception. His favorite red-zone target has become tight end Todd Heap, who has scored multiple touchdowns in consecutive games for the first time in his career. Receiver Derrick Mason, who dropped a pass in the end zone last Sunday, could be negated by Nnamdi Asomugha, who is considered one of the top cornerbacks in the league. Left tackle Jared Gaither is expected to return after missing the past three games with foot and back injuries, which moves rookie first-round pick Michael Oher back to right tackle. Edge: RAVENS
Raiders run offense vs. Ravens run defense: This is where the Raiders need to be productive to pull off the upset, but the Ravens hold teams to 3.5 yards per carry (which leads the NFL). The Ravens had one of their best games against the run last Sunday, when they shut down Rashard Mendenhall (36 yards on 17 carries). Oakland running back Michael Bush gained 133 rushing yards two weeks ago in the Raiders’ upset of Denver, but he finished with 52 yards last Sunday at Cleveland. Edge: RAVENS
Raiders pass offense vs. Ravens pass defense: Charlie Frye is Oakland’s third starting quarterback of the season after JaMarcus Russell got benched and Bruce Gradkowski got hurt. Frye has been dreadful in his two starts. He passed for 68 yards in Denver, and he threw for three interceptions and no touchdowns at Cleveland. First-round pick Darrius Heyward-Bey, the former Maryland wide receiver, has been a major disappointment and has missed the past four games with a foot injury. Oakland’s primary target is tight end Zach Miller, who has 59 catches for 767 yards and two touchdowns. Free safety Ed Reed said he is a game-time decision after being sidelined the past four games with a groin injury. Cornerback Domonique Foxworth has made three interceptions in Reed’s absence. Edge: RAVENS
Special teams: The Raiders have two of the best specialists in the NFL in kicker Sebastian Janikowski and punter Shane Lechler. Janikowski has made 24 of 27 field-goal tries, including a 61-yarder last Sunday. Lechler leads the NFL with a 44-yard net average. But Oakland’s punt and kickoff return teams rank in the bottom four of the league. Jalen Parmele averaged 29 yards in his first game as the Ravens’ kickoff returner and faces a Raiders coverage team that is 29th in the NFL. Kicker Billy Cundiff has converted 12 of 15 field-goal attempts for the Ravens. Edge: EVEN
Intangibles: The Ravens know they have to win to clinch a playoff berth, so all the motivation rests with them. They are 4-0 against teams with losing records this season, winning by an average of 29 points. The Raiders have beaten some quality teams (Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Denver and Pittsburgh), but they have lost to some bad ones (Kansas City, Washington and Cleveland). The Ravens have won seven of their past nine regular-season finales, including the past three. Edge: RAVENS
Prediction: There has been one absolute under coach John Harbaugh: The Ravens rout teams with losing records. This trend will continue against the overmatched Raiders, especially with everything at stake. Next stop is the playoffs. RAVENS, 35-3
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Ed Reed is playing today
Not going to be able to play the entire game, but will see good amount of plays.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Is a lame Ed better than Zibby. If Ed gets beat deep once it could change the game.
MaLor- Leach is a jerk. According to the announcers covering the bowl game yesterday, he actually made a kid change the family name on the back of his jersey becuase he said it sounded wimpy. The guys ego has made him Hitler-ish crazy. What an ass and Bobby Knight want to be. No room for that type of coaching anywhere. Win or lose. Texas Tech is still under the radar so wait until they uncover recruiting violations. That always seems to come after a little exposure.
Yea I get it
He does come off as an asshole and maybe he wouldn’t fit with our team. He seemed like such a great coach last year with that great season. Really didn’t know how crazy he was until all this crap happened. Making a kid sit in a tool shed? Insane.
You are right, it is just a matter of time before they find out that Crabtree was given free clothes, a car and money to come to Texas Tech.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I hope to see......
a big goose egg for the Raiders. But if our guys rack up penalties, I vote for time-outs on the bench, facing the stands. Come on, Ravens—don’t be doing stupid stuff today!!!!!!!
I do like our record against losing teams, so let’s keep it going! I am happy too, don’t have to watch a 3″×5″ screen on my pc. Yes, 32" flat-screen HD is more like it!
I will be here all day during the game
Lonely Ravens fan in Cheese Head country (Watertown, WI)
hey guys
watching the game tonight (which is a yaay!!) :]
damn steelers having all the luck in the world (and i’m not even touching officiating at that game).
are there any qbs remaining in miami??? the 4th one is on right now.
anyways, go ravens!
You know what we did wrong last week?
we should have explode on steelers in 4th quarter, instead of the third one!
21-20 Raiders
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions
You better worry about Ben's arm
and PRAY for three losses…
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
Yeah, Ben's arm looked bad. It's amazing he still played the final 12 min or so.
We won today, that’s all we can do. Whatever happens with the other games, so be it.
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, good win today
Impressive performance. FWP looked good.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
So did Logan
He literally looks just like Sproles. He needs screen passes galore.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I was suprised by the one (maybe two) screens that Mendy got
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
You give Logan 6-8 of those a game
Man, you could do some damage. Arians is out after this year right? I bet if you guys bring in a good offensive mind (which you most likely will) that Logan would be incorporated in the offense.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I would really be happy to have an OC that didn't a fullback was the enemy
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
...didn't think the fullback was the enemy
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
Yeah, Willie did look good. Nice to see him healthy when the playoffs arrive…
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Go Ravens
don’t want the Steelers are Texans in
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
*or
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Thanks brotha
You Indy Domers didn’t look too good in the snow today. Good luck in the playoffs.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
that'll happen when you open without 11 starters
and pull the rest after a quarter
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Yea, just messing with ya
Did Peyton and Dallas have a snowball fight on the sideline?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
no way
too risky. Someone might get hurt
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Great drive
Get Rice and Heap with some Mason the ball between the 20’s then power it in there with Willis and/or LeRon in the redzone.
Good job Cam.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Hey dude!!
Good to see ya here today MaLoR, kinda missed you last weekend
Lonely Ravens fan in Cheese Head country (Watertown, WI)
Thanks
I tend to watch the games with a bunch of people and dont have a computer around me. Packing for vacation today and thought it be nice to spend a game on the Beatdown.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Nope, staying cold
Going winter fishing in Virginia for the next 3 days. Gonna be super cold.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Of course you will, Thats where the Redskins live
Just looking at them sickens me…
The key to success in life is doing what people constantly say you cannot do.
by Baltimore Warrior on Jan 3, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
near the Cheasapeake Bay
for the next 3 days, they are calling for lows in the 20s, highs in the 30s, and 10-15 mph winds. I don’t know how familiar you are with wind and cold temperatures on the water, but pack plenty of layers…Better idea, cancel, it will be miserable.
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, it is going to be brutal
But I have done it many times before. Gonna make a trip to Seaford, Delaware as well I think tomorrow. I have about 10 days worth of clothing for 3 days.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Take some hearing protection. You can stay warm in the engine room. :)
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
too many passing yards on that drive
Ravens can’t collapse the pocket. C’mon Walker needs all the help he can get.
Walker can probably get some help in the Black Hole
They’re all armed too…
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
energizer bunny
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
If Frye goes down once more
He gets a special prize – a wheelchair
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
He was doing it in the Houston game today on every other hit
by drj on Jan 3, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
WOWOWOW
Raiders safety got punked there
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Giants fan here
I just had to pop in to say that was the sickest stiff arm I’ve ever seen.
Good luck today and (hopefully) in the postseason from a Delaware grad who loves Joe Flacco
2009 Did Not Happen
Coming home from new hAmsphire and followingon espn gamecast. Common ravens!
by ryantz on Jan 3, 2010 5:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nice
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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:24 PM EST reply actions
What a Stiff Arm!!!
Did you you see that stiff arm by Willis McGahee? It was awesome! He was like get off me son!!!
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Best regards,
Chris
I like how the linesman
Had to wait for them to replace the sticks so he could see where to spot the first down
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
our defence should step up a bit.
Get off the field.
YESSSSSS
Did he just say, that was the first TD for the Raiders in 2 weeks?
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:33 PM EST reply actions
Good Return!
Nice return dammit. Now let’s at least get 3
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Best regards,
Chris
is 34 that good, or are the Raiders that bad?
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:35 PM EST reply actions
He looked great in training camp
Have seen much of him since
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
Unitas and John Mackey sure was a nice combination
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Mackey dropped the ball as often as he caught it
Unitas to Raymond Berry was magic
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
Mackey
A Hall of Fame tight end that averages 16 yards a catch over 8 years, and five pro-bowls, sounds good to me. His stats are here.
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not arguing that he was good - but that wasn't THE combination
Unitas to Berry was. Berry HOF, 6 time pro bowler, 3 time all pro… I watched them play — live!
"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas
Vinatieri didn't travel today, so the Colts are probably going to hold onto Stover for a while.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
I thought Cundiff had been pretty bad
besides that last kick
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
F'ing officials dictating the momentum of the game again!
Another lousey pass interference call that kept the Raiders drive alive…. and making the coverage play soft. No integrity amongst the NFL OFFICIALS!
Katula is fucking some kicks up
His snap made the Koch hold the ball sideways. Katula is a member at the golf course I am a member at and live on. Next time I see him in the summer I am going to long snap a powerade at him.
Tired of these penalties. Both pass interferences were terrible calls by the refs. The WR bumped into Walker just as much as Walker did. That Carr call was maybe the worst all season. The ball hit the WR before Carr even tried to break it up.
Anyone who thinks the refs don’t call our games with a different style to fuck us over is idiotic.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
well. Oakland is changing up on us.
switch qb at half
Can't wait for Russel
This should be fun to watch.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Yes
But with Russell in there, they will stop passing it and run the ball. Not the way you beat us.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Russell...now...???
"You have to make it happen." Joe Greene
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Jan 3, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions

















