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Ask an Indianapolis Colts fan: Playoff Edition

Greetings and SERIOUS congratulations, Baltimore fans. Your Ravens did a magnificent job kicking the crap out of the Colts arch-rivals, the Patriots. It was the kind of performance that opens one's eyes to the devastating potential of this Ravens team and how they very much deserve to be in these playoffs.

Like in 2006, the old Baltimore team will face the new one for the right to move on in the AFC Championship Game. However, for this Indianapolis Colts fan, I'll say the 2009 Ravens and much better than the 2006 ones. Getting healthy and playing together at the right time make all the difference. The 2006 Colts showed that this was one formula for playoff success. Now, the Ravens look healthy and are playing together, as one, at the right time. For my Colts, I believe they are healthy, but they have not played together since December 17th at Jacksonville.

So, if momentum does indeed factor into winning playoff games, the Ravens have all of it. Thus, they seem to have an advantage. We shall see how the game pans out. It should be a great one.

Obviously, there is a lot of history between our cities, our franchises, and our fanbases. When our clubs meet in the post-season, it means something beyond the final boxscore. I'm here to answer any questions you may have about the Indianapolis Colts.I'll be joined by Stampede Blue writers shake n bake as well as readers and contributors over at the blog.

Looking forward to your questions. Please use the comments below.

Also, this is just a general FYI: While we may never agree on who is to "blame" for the Colts leaving Baltimore, we Indianapolis fans have always made an effort to appreciate the play of guys like John Unitas, Bert Jones, Raymond Berry, and John Mackey. Guys like Peyton Manning, Adam Vinatieri, Dwight Freeney, and Dallas Clark often refer to those players as their inspiration. And since he has been on our football team, we fans now know why you guys loved Matt Stover so much. The guy is seriously classy and professional. He keeps in tradition with what we expect from players who made their careers in Baltimore.

The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!

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So are you

pissed that they did not go for the undefeated season but did go for personal stats?

by section117 on Jan 11, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

*blink* *blink*

Obviously you don’t get much chance to read Stampede Blue. :D

"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning

by szquirrel on Jan 11, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Great signature.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 11, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Answer

As szquirrel so accurately indicated, I think the choice by the Colts was hypocritical and illogical. Again, that is shot at Colts management, not the players.

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by Brad Wells on Jan 11, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

How badly do you think the league wanted to see IND-NE?

I love when we put the league in shambles by knocking off teams that the media and world loves and makes money off of. The fact that we will not be seeing the all so great Manning-Brady is amazing.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 11, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

There's no doubt that would've been an ideal AFC Championship game for the NFL...

…but I think the P. Manning vs. R. Lewis matchup will be hyped in much the same fashion: two future HOFers who command their respective sides of the ball in a similar fashion with play calling, misdirection and disguised personnel packages.

Plus there’s no guarantee that the Pats would’ve even made the AFC Championship game, and given the way they played Sunday, there’s no way they get by the Bolts even if they managed to beat the Ravens.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 11, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Answer

Actually, I don’t think the match-up would have been as compelling. The Patriots clearly are not the team they were two or three years ago. Jerod Mayo disappeared yesterday, and Brandon Meriweather is waaaaaaay over-rated. Defensively, they struggled to pressure the QB all season, and yesterday they were wretched at stopping the run. Bill Belichick is supposedly a “genius” who can take dog meat and turn it into a Top 10 defense, right?

Yeah, that myth took a big hit yesterday.

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by Brad Wells on Jan 11, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but

they still should have won at your house earlier this season, except….

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

...They got beat?

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Jan 12, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Fact:

cheat-riots haven’t won a SB since they got caught cheating.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 12, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

We are well aware of that.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 12, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you agree with

resting players and the fact will be that Saturday night will be a full month since your full team had any significant action and will that help or hurt them in your opinion?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 11, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

I believe it will only help the Colts...

Obviously not from a timing perspective, but our receivers have been playing pitch-and-catch with Peyton since August, so I do not believe lack of significant action will equate to our offense flat-lining against the Ravens.

The biggest issue with Colts personnel in the last month has been getting the starters healthy, and this much-needed respite will pay dividends in their (hopefully) deep playoff run. On both sides of the ball from Freeney, Mathis, Powers & Bullitt to Garcon, Brown and LT C. Johnson, our team was limping to 14-0 and home field advantage.

I expect a great showing this Saturday night from both squads, but I believe the Colts will get out early and lean on our pass rush to disrupt Flacco’s comeback hopes. A stellar performance against the Pats is a great building block for the Flacco, Rice and the younger Ravens, but the Wild Card dreams will end in Indy.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 11, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

History says......

teams that go into the playoffs losing, lose. Doesn’t matter much if you are throwing games intentionally (resting starters) or not. I think the Ravens are going to be on the Colts like flies on shit. Just a gut feeling.

The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin

by Cdsumm on Jan 11, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

History also says...

That teams that go into the playoffs winning, also lose. At least from a Colts standpoint, this argument is completely moot considering last year they won their last 9 games in a row before exiting the playoffs in the first round. And look at the Packers this season: They were on a roll before entering the playoffs, and then bow out in the first round. If history in the NFL is to teach us anything, it’s to forget about it b/c either you can’t use it to make any type of accurate predictions, or you can cherry-pick from it to buttress any argument for or against a particular point of view.

Playoff football is about teams’ putting their best foot forward b/c it’s always an all or nothing scenario, and for the Colts, their best foot is a healthy one, not one that’s marked by a 16-0 record(though I personally believe they should have and could have gone for it).

I believe it will be a great game, but the Colts at full strength on both sides of the ball will be too much for the Ravens Offense and Defense to overcome.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 11, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

wow very well put.

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)

by TheAngelsColts on Jan 11, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is exactly

what the Pat’s fans said….

the better team (on Saturday) will win. Period.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

If we're talking about which team is better, than it's the Colts

Hands down.

However, the better team doesn’t always win…ask the almost-undefeated 2007 Pats about that. I realize that this argument is nothing more than an exercise in homer bias + speculation and semantics, but make no mistake, the Colts are a better team than the Ravens.

That being said, any team can win on any given Sunday. blah, blah, cliche, blah. The point I was making in my OP was that when it comes to playoff football, you have to throw history out the window, because it’s not relevant. Teams that have come into the playoffs hot have both won and lost, and the same applies to teams which have had losing streaks coming into the playoffs.

The year the Colts won the super bowl, they finished up the regular season by losing 3/5 games and getting thrashed by the Jags to the tune of 300+ yards on the ground (and a 44-17 final score). Didn’t look like a team which was going to go far in the playoffs, but we all know what happened.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Answer

I don’t know. What I do know is the final score will answer your question. If the Colts win, then resting made sense. If they don’t, the Polian notion that “momentum is over-rated” is forever discredited.

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by Brad Wells on Jan 11, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That seems overly simplistic.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 11, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And yes, I totally endorse

the simple request to eliminate any thought of “the Colts leaving Baltimore” stuff for once and for all.

This is between our Ravens and YOUR Colts!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 11, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Ain't gonna happen Bruce....

I’ll be polite, but I ain’t ever going to let go or forgive that lying drunk Irsay for destroying part of my childhood (Note, I fully recognize that the city leaders of Baltimore were just as much to blame). That said, I do have a lot of respect for his son Jimmy nor do I hold any dislike for current fans of the Indies.

But I digress, to the Indy fans….
The big knock on Dungy (actually the only knock when you think about it because the dude is a class act) is that he only got one Superbowl ring with Peyton Manning. What is the feeling about that perspective among Indy fans?

Not really related to the game, but I remember hearing a lot of rumblings about finance issues in Indy in regards to the cost of the stadium between the ownership and the city. If anyone could shed light from a local perspective, I would appreciate it.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 11, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Dungy is like the Pope

Tony Dungy gets a level of respect from everyone here that is usually reserved for the pope. Fans universally are happy with Dungy, and absolutely pleased to have won the SB. Even after leaving, Caldwell has given us more of the same.

The flip side: the first 10 years of the Indianapolis Colts, we had been hoodwinked into buying something that resembled an NFL team, but was actually manned by rejects from a three stooges remake audition. There were some great moments and great games, but nothing like what is on the turf at the Luke. We sat through some awful football until Manning was drafted.

by indymike on Jan 11, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Poppa Irsay...

had a good team in Baltimore…and proceeded to run it into the ground and do everything he could to piss off the fans (imagine if Peyton was traded to the Bucs rather than being allowed to retire as an Indy) and then demand that the city build him a brand new stadium that we couldn’t afford.

Manning wasn’t the change for the Indies….it was Jimmy fully usurping his father’s control in 95. Its the exact opposite of the Paul/Mike Brown dynamic.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 11, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a beef with Indy fans

but it will always be THAT TEAM in Indy, or the NFL team in Indy to me, Never the Colts. The Colts died in March 1984.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Jan 11, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Fat, stupid, lying drunk Irsay

Get it right.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Jan 11, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

under the bridge….
anyway, this will be a good matchup. Flaccos INT at the end of our last meeting still stings. I hope we use that to have another NE game. We are hungry, healthy and Lewis has all these young guys believing. I think this is the most together team we’ve had since 2000. In the past there was always some division in the locker room with some vets jealous of Ray. This year it is Lewis’s team all the way through. Win or lose they will totally play for each other.

by raven on Jan 11, 2010 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

I think Ray Ray is going to have it out for Addai

after Addai got the best of him a couple times (the TD run and in pass pro)

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 11, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Two INT's were the difference

in 2006 post season and earlier this year. W coulda, shoulda, woulda.

however, regarding November’s loss, I poted a story asking Ravens fans “What Did You Expect?” the notion of the story was that even with that INT not happening, no way was Manning going to let his team lose that day. He would have done whatever necessary to take his team downfield for the winning FG or TD.

Now I just don’t feel the same wya, although if it is close at the end of the game, I greatly favor the Colts. However, if we can get ut to another quick start and keep them plus 1 score behind us at the end….

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

question for colts fan:

outside of the numbers how do you feel about your run D defense/ attitude.

by raven on Jan 11, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

Very, very, very good

At least I do. Take out the Dolphins wildcat game (something I doubt they will see) and the final 2 games, the run defense would be #10 in the league. When this team is completely healthy like it should be next week, there is a lot of depth. Kelvin Hayden, Jerraud Powers, and Jacob Lacey should all play finally. Clint Session and Gary Brackett will both be out there. This is one of the best defenses in Indianapolis Colts history IMHO.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Bet you're glad that you

won’t have to see Tim Jennings on the field.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 11, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You could say that :-)

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 11, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

It’s a dream come true. I’m really looking forward to seeing his name on the cut list.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I love our D

because it has so much talent and play-making upside. Every time an opposing QB drops back presents an opportunity for mathis and freeney to produce a sack/fumble. Every time a QB hurries a throw, I know our ball-hawking, fast-as-hell secondary is looking to make a play, and every time a see Clint Session shooting a gap in the line of scrimmage, I know he is looking to take someone’s head off.

Attitude has never been an issue here, and my confidence stems from the talent I know they possess. Young guys stepping up and stepping in like rookies Jerraud Powers and Jacob Lacey, Clint Session and Phillip Wheeler give our D a promising outlook. Melvin Bullitt and Bethea are studs at SS and FS, and despite Bob Sanders being out, his presence and his identity is still felt and exuded by the guys in the locker room. Damn I like our team, in all facets…except kick returning.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 11, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Your D...

is the definition of a fast, swarming team. I really suspect that Ray Rice will not be able to make the cuts like he did against the Pats.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 11, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You an UMBC grad?

I almost played soccer there on scholarship. My old club coach, Rob Diver, played ball there back in the late 80’s I think.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 11, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

No I am a current student...

I did a six year stint in the military so my age is a bit screwy compared to other students.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 12, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

well thanks for your service then

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)

by TheAngelsColts on Jan 12, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Chris Johnson’s longest run against the Colts this year was an 11 yard run. The only long TD run I can remember was the Frank Gore TD run, the only Niners TD of the game. I think this game could end up being very similar to that one.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

they may be a fast bunch on the indy d but when your being pushed straight ahead by a bulldozing o-line that speed is useless. i’ll take 4.3 yard chunks all day and give up the 83 yarder. i think we can limit Manning to 2 possessions per quarter. I think he’ll score on 1/2 of them. It’s just a matter of TD or FG. At worst we give up 28 at best 17-20.

by raven on Jan 12, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

good luck with that lol

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)

by TheAngelsColts on Jan 12, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Chad Simpson's Return Game

except kick returning.
There is no other return man in the league who approaches his craft like running back does. Most return men are smart enough to go down when hit. Not Chad Simpson. Simpson stays up and keeps his legs going for an extra couple of yards like it’s 2nd and 8 or something. It usually ends with a spectacular hit. I’ve never seen a return man absorb as much punishment as this guy.

by indymike on Jan 12, 2010 6:53 AM EST up reply actions  

great…can’t wait to watch him get stripped of the ball ! man, a TO on St’s is soooo HUGE in the playoffs.

by raven on Jan 12, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Problem

Chad Simpson doesn’t loose the football. The guy has glue on his hands I swear. That being said, he’s a human touch back. He rarely makes it past the 20 yard line on returns. He had one home run return against the Jags, but that’s it.

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Jan 12, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Our new return guy

Jalen Parmale is a RB as well and has had great success with only a few games under his belt but sporting a +30 yard kickoff average.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

You know...

No one really has mentioned him in the local media…he is doing a stellar job considering that he was just thrown in there.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 12, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ball security is point #1 with Colts RBs

Addai, Hart, Brown, Simpson, all of them have been excellent in protecting the ball.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 12, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Simpson gets blown up but does not drop the ball.

It’s amazing to watch. The fact he gets up is amazing half the time.

by indymike on Jan 12, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So what weakness can the Ravens exploit?

I’ve been reading this thread and a little over at the colts blog. The team is rested, the D will bring pressure and stop the run. The young players stepping up and not missing a beat. The offense,of course, has Manning. The Ravens look to be utterly over matched. How can they compete?

by drj on Jan 11, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

execute their game,

limit the Colts big plays, force a few mistakes, and put up some points while grinding out the clock

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 11, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Get pressure on Peyton without blitzing.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 11, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That probably ain't gonna happen

but we can rush five w/ success rather than throwing the house at hin and getting severely burned.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Pray.

And obviously do anything you can to cause Peyton to make critical mistakes. Pressure him. Force a few turnovers. Frustrate him. Induce him to beat himself.
If Peyton’s on his game and stays in rhythm you don’t stand a chance. That’s not conceit, just truth. You’re never going to win a shoot-out against Peyton Manning when he’s on fire. I doubt if there are many teams that can.

by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 11, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

How the Ravens can beat the Colts:

On Defense:

1. pressure Manning and get him off his spot – when he gets happy feet, he makes mistakes.
2. jam the Colts receivers and knock them off their routes – with a few weeks in between games, timing might be off slightly, and this certainly would disrupt the patterns more
3. protect the middle of the field – clark and collie have eaten defenses alive over the middle all season.
4. disguise coverages as best you can – try to use manning’s own recipes of diversion against him.

On offense:

1. Ray Rice needs to study tape of Maurice Jones-Drew and follow along – They are carbon copies of each other, and MJD has given the Colts fits for years. If Rice can harness that running form against the Colts, he’ll have a big game.
2. If the Colts elect to stack the box against the run, Flacco has to come up large – This means finding a rhythm with Mason, Clayton, Heap early on…playing catchup doesn’t work against the Colts pass rush.
3. limit the turnovers – If you give the Colts a short field to work with, they will make you pay. Again. and again.

But, in all honesty, even if Peyton throws 3 INTs and Rice runs for 150 yards an a couple TDs, #18 and the Colts find a way to manufacture points and possessions at the end of games…I don’t know what it is, but if there’s time on the clock and the ball in Peyton’s hands, there’s always a chance.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 11, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe

That Manning cannot be stopped using any method. He can pick apart any kind of defense. The strategy is to keep him off the field with controlling the clock and having to act on every single mistake he mades. If a Ravens player drops an interception or lets a Colt recover a fumble by Garcon or Addai, it may be enough to keep the Ravens from winning. This team hasn’t lost a meaningful game in a year. Colts players will have to screw up to lose IMHO.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as meaningful games

The Colts also haven’t played a meaningful game in over a month!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks guys.

I just wanted to see that you al were capable of discussing a way to tag an L the Colts. :P

As for that prayers, I’m not a believer of prayers for sporting event outcomes, but if forced to pick, psalm 58:6-11 is to the point.

by drj on Jan 12, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

How to beat the Colts

Do what we did the first game this year!

It might as well of been an indoor game with sun and no wind. If Flacco doesn’t hic-up at the end we win.

Manning isn’t a spring chicken anymore and I am not sure he can drag his body into Favre territory. He had a great year but his team slipped by with some very very lucky games and unlikely comebacks. They are not dominant by any means. They keep teams around.

Lastly, when the Colts played us we were an unprepared team with new guys everywhere. Foxworth and Carr have come a very long way. Even Walker has become more disciplined. Zibby got some important playing time in Ed Reeds absense. LB Ellerbe has come along. Rice, McGahee and McClaine have finaly found a rotation formula. The Colts are at their peak as long as Manning is playing. The Ravens are now just peaking with the team now a full team.

It will be a great game. If any team has a chance of running away with it, it is the Ravens. The Colts just can’t shake teams this year for whatever reason.

by raven on Jan 11, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

The Colts aren't an old team either

There are a lot of first, second, and third year players in the rotation or starting lineup right now. The team is coming together.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Manning might not be a spring chicken

but he is now a 4 time MVP, and the ONLY one ever. Another SB ring (or two) and he goes down as the best ever. Without at least one more ring, the debate is wide open.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Umm if Manning doesnt hiccup we...

Win?
Still Win?
Win by alot?

Ifs and buts…

Should be a great game on Saturday!

I think your statement would be more accurate if you said: “Do what we did the first game this year! Except this time score touchdowns…”

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Jan 12, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Got to throw it out there…Not sure when I’d be back on here. I haven’t found a thread yet that stuck to its topic through and through. I don’t really need to ask questions because I have all the answers. Ask me anything and I’ll have an answer. Correct or not. I stand by my soap box.

by raven on Jan 12, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

Does Foxworth stay #1 next year

Or is he beat out by Webb or a rookie we draft or free agent?

Do we package a deal together including Landry for a WR or a few more 2nd or 3rd round picks and put Zbi in his place?

Does Gaither resign? Oher switches to LT, who plays RT?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, No , No

Foxworth, after starting shakily, has been solid but Webb if healthy is #2 CB ahead of Fabian.

Landry not traded, but not a bad thought with Zbi and Haruki there.

Gaither has one more year I believe, but then buh-bye as Oher moves over to be our LT for the next 10 years. and either Yanda or another guy takes over at RT.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont know

I am loving Yanda at RG right now. I swear, the last 2 games against Oakland and New England, my Dad and I have paid close attention to Yanda when the ball is snapped. I can tell you right now that 75% of the success we had on those big runs between the last two games were because of Yanda’s block. He has been destroying people. He is a better pull Guard than Grubbs is right now.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry

We’re sure to find a RT in the 40 or so OL players Ozzie will draft this year and next…

"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas

by D-Fensive on Jan 12, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yep…yanda should have been in for cousins in pitt. big mistake.

by raven on Jan 13, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Even though he is a nasty, tough O-Lineman, he is extremely disciplined. During the Oakland game, he was destroying his defender and the guy kept getting in Yanda’s face after the play and shoving him. Yanda just threw his hands in the air, waiting for them to call it on Oakland. Cousins just shoves people to the ground right away.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 13, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

longtime reader first time poster...indy fan

I read a few posts and I’ll add my two cents. i think this is going to be a tough game for indy and for the ravens. Unlike the other colts fans, i am only semi-confident (of the three teams we could have faced, I wanted to avoid the ravens). Why? I don’t agree with one Baltimore fan who thinks baltimore has a greater chance to blow the colts out…..won’t happen. Most teams who have beat the colts over the last few years have dominated the time of posession and had the ball last (I mean honestly when is the last time the colts were “blown out”. The issue is the Ravens team is great at keeping games close. The ravens D is great at limiting #18 and if their O places good enough could eke out a win. The only chance for a blow out is if the colts get out to a huge early lead forcing the ravens to abandon the run. But I think this game will be close and the winner will be determined by who has the ball last and what they do with it

by nighttrain551 on Jan 12, 2010 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

That is exactly what I am afraid of....

the Ravens are not built to come back from deficit. If the Indies start out fast, its over quick. We live and die by the run. Rather frustratingly, it seemed our coaching staff refused to admit this during the year at times.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 12, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

billick refused to admit he couldn’t develop a passing game without his 8 minnesota pro-bowlers. it basically says your offensive passing plan (an o-coords manhood) is garbage. that is why o-coords fight to the bloody fingers trying to prove their passing game. alas, cam has run a sword through himself.

by raven on Jan 13, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that we won't "blow" the Colts out

but I don’t ike our chances for winning a real close game, with anning there. I believe we can win by more than one score but also can see the Colts winning big as well. A tough game that will be very physical, at least from our side!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I am crazy here....

but offensive coordinator for Indy has to be one of the easiest job in the league. Manning has to be the only QB in the league that if the headsets went away, he could still put up the same numbers. He has the physical abilities to be a tremendous QB, no sane person would argue that, but what makes him so special (and damn frustrating to opposing teams) is his audibles. The day he retires as an active player, I could see him immediately transitioning to a offensive coaching position in the league.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 12, 2010 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

He'll probably use his cash

to buy a franchise and then be owner, GM,head coach, all while playing QB for a few more years!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you may be confusing gratifying with easy.

Think about it. If you had the world’s greatest artist at your fingertips would you ask him to draw a picture for a greeting card or have him paint the greatest masterpiece you could imagine? Most offensive coordinators are limited by the fact that they have a QB with limited talents and must therefore tailor the offenses accordingly. Not so with Tom Moore. He is able to dream up all sorts of crazy plays and have them executed in a nearly flawless manner because of the talent and discipline of Peyton Manning (and a few other guys may help out sometimes, too).
Tom Moore is a happy man, but he by no means sits around drinking pina coladas while Peyton runs the offense.

by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 12, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

plus you have to call 3 plays per down instead of 1

since you are giving options, not orders.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 12, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

the more I think about that the more impressive that is

how fast must Moore be at analyzing defenses and recalling the right plays to exploit the looks he sees?

45 second play clock, the Colts are usually at the line with 15-20 left. Moore has what? 30 seconds, 45? to think up and relay 3 plays.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 12, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

At the same time

something tells me that Peyton would be just as good w/o Moore, but certainly not the other way around. Think Moore would have made a difference with Kyle Boller? Doubtful.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you think your radio commentator is annoying?

I am watching the NFL Replay of our first meeting this year, I cannot stand him when he screams “TOUCHDOWN, REGGIE WAAAAAYYYYNEEE!” It sounds like he is sitting on the toilet while he does the play by play.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Bob Lamey - A true blue-blooded Indy Homer, through and through

The sheer excitement in his voice is priceless. I’d wager that most of the Colts fans here in town loves our Bob Lamey, but I can understand how his particular cadence is found to be annoying by other fan bases.

One thing is for sure, he wears his heart on his sleeve and he’s not ashamed of that. You can literally hear him live and die with the games on the radio.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 12, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

"Fumbled the freakin football..."

I will never forget how down he sounded making that call, only to have his voice turn to pure jubilation when Saturday recovered for the TD.

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Jan 12, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE Lamey!

I’ll listen to him on the internet with the t.v. on mute. (I’m not in Indy)

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 12, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Lamey is great!!!!

Listening to him is a riot! When his time comes, I’m sure he’ll go out from a heart attack on air right after a Colts touchdown. And for Bob… I’m sure there is no way he would rather go.

by invisibulman on Jan 12, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I personnally

cannot stand the Ravens radio broadcasts. I end up listening on my phone to the opposing team broadcasters while watching the game. I think its interesting to hear opposing views and some of those other announcers are really good. I absolutely love the dudes that do the Bengals broadcasts.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 12, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Hockey Bob

With all my heart.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 12, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

+ freakin' football

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 12, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of radio

You guys had some Anita woman on your ESPN radio station. I hate her. She’s really obnoxious and crass.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 12, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Strongly agree

She is the laughing stock of Baltimore Sports Talk Radio around here. She is clueless and tries her hardest to let everyone know that she is right and you are wrong. Half the callers that call into the station always compliment how “purdy” she looks then go on to say that Joe Flacco needs to be benched and Ravens should fire Harbaugh.

I remember about a month ago, she was trying to give fantasy football advice, and she said that Anthony Gonzales was a sleeper pick for the week when he has been on IR for nearly the entire season.

We agree that she is obnoxious and crass. Would do anything to get her out of here.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm glad you agree

She pissed me off when she tried to bring up Curtis Painter because “Ray Lewis would knock Manning out of the game.” She was the biggest joke in the group on the radio, and Bob Kravitz was there. She’s a bitch, and the comment about Manning getting knocked out was about as stupid as can be.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 12, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, sorry you had to hear her speak. At least it was only this one time. I get the pleasure of listening to her everyday.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We've got Bob Kravitz

I know how you feel…

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 12, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Lenny ever on the show?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 12, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob Kravitz – Lenny Kravitz. Get it?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 12, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Even Denver fans

who hadn’t seen Kravitz’s work since 1998 remember him and hate him.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 12, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My biggest nightmare is that ESPN now brings Jerry Sandeuchsky on to comment. AAHHHHHH!!! His little second grade rhymes follow me everywhere. Every time he finishes his thoughts I wait for him to take a bow and drop an apple on his teachers desk.

by raven on Jan 13, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob Lamey

is undoubtedly the best radio commentator in the biz. The guy is such a homer its hilarious to listen to him. During games I turn the volume down on the TV and turn the radio up. There’s about a 5 second delay on the TV, but its better than listening to the schmucks that call the games on TV.

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!

by coltsfan723 on Jan 12, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

But the radio is 5 seconds ahead of the TV, so it’s also like he can predict the future, too.

by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 12, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Beating the Colts

From what I’ve seen plenty of teams have tried to play keep away with Peyton and it hasn’t worked. We can hold the ball as long as we want, but if we can’t defend its useless as he can, and surely will, unload the ball downfield and get a TD operating every drive like a two-minute drill. So how do we beat them?

As hard as it is to admit this, luck will play a key factor. Their offense is a rhythm offense and we have to hope that their limited playing time the last month will have caused a lapse in the rhythm Manning is in with his WRs. A lot of these playoff games the Colts have played in recently saw Manning make second half comebacks after being down 14 to 20 points @ halftime. The Pittsburgh and San Diego games are prime examples. I don’t mean any offense by this, but that has been a trend. It speaks volumes of Dungy’s ability to make halftime adjustments (which may have been his best quality as a head coach). So hopefully, our Ravens will be able to come out of the gates quickly and spot ourselves a lead. After that, it seems like zone blitzing gives Peyton fits every now and then. The Ravens have toyed with stuff like this (Pittsburgh game 1, Kruger’s interception was due to pressure from a Ray Lewis blitz as Kruger dropped into coverage) so it’s definately not foreign to Mattison. Building a lead and executing on defense are critical. Manning will try to be perfect, the Ravens defense will have to offer tricky and deceptive blitz packages to force Manning to throw towards locations where a defender will creep into.

*sorry about any grammatical errors

by OldBay83 on Jan 12, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

I'll take luck

like we sort have had last week, but remember, good teams make their own luck.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

defense

Although I do agree you have a great defense it does seem like some of the colts fan are a little overconfident in how good they are. If I remember correctly freeney and mathis did not have a sack or even a tackle and flacco dropped back over 30 times. I believe we will run the ball a lot more and freeney/mathis aren’t the biggest d ends while we have 2 of the better tackles in the league and one of the most explosive players as well. Why is everyone so confident that we can’t come out and really move the ball on this defense?

by AV23 on Jan 12, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

We're just elated to have any defense at all...

It’s been so long since we have seen a real live NFL defense on our side of the field. They are still susceptible to being bullied at the line of scrimage, but the LBs have been much better in run support this year than in years past. Session moved to the weak side to replace Kieaho with Wheeler now on the strong side. Kieaho was great in pursuit, but not big or strong at the point of attack. Session is about 15lbs heavier and still has decent speed. The Colts have routinely limited some of the top RBs in the league this year. Teams still want to run the ball 30 times/game against the Colts so the total yards add up, but aside from the Dolphins game we haven’t really seen an opposing running offense dictate the flow of the game. This may not be a top 5 defense, but probably in the top 10.

by invisibulman on Jan 13, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Haven't the Colts tried this resting experiment before?

I know the Colts have gone 13-0 before, but never 14-0, but when they have gone 13-0 and 12-0 havent they tried the “resting for the playoffs” experiment before? Also, when they tried this experiment didn’t it fail? I’m not sure if they did it in 2006, just wanted some clarification on the success of the Colts resting for the playoffs experiment and has it been successful in the past, and if it hasn’t been successful in the past, what makes this playoff run different with resting the players?

by ShaneOmacDaddy on Jan 13, 2010 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

what makes it diffrent this year is one word HEALTH.

the other circumstances that we rested and didn’t do well were more injury than any other factor. In those games we were missing key players whither it was freeney, sanders, mathis on one foot, harrison who returned as playoffs started after not playing all season, (and i know im missing at least one).

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)

by TheAngelsColts on Jan 13, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I responded to this sort of argument earlier...

And there is absolutely zero correlation between resting players and playing through when it comes to playoff wins and losses. Last year the Colts played through the season and went into the playoffs on a 9-game winning streak before losing in the first round. This year teams like the Patriots and Green Bay finished the season playing all of its starters (even though the Pats had nothing to gain) and ended up going home after Wild Card Weekend. Whether you rest players or not, the playoffs is about who wants it more, not who’s been hot/cold. The year the Colts won the Superbowl they had the worst run defense in the last decade and finished the season losing 3 of the last 5 games including a 44-17 ass-whuppin’ at the hands of the Jags (who ran for over 300 yards in that game).

This is an argument which holds no water b/c for every example you can present showing how a team coming off a bye loses, I can show you a team coming off a bye that has won. For every team you can show me that rests it starters and loses, I can show you a team that rests its starters and wins. It’s an overly-simplistic generalization which, somehow, has so easily captivated the masses by the MSM. Do the research for yourself, and you’ll see.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 13, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with pretty much all of this

There are teams who have rested and won, and teams who have eaked out a playoff berth and won. Once Week 17 ends and Wild-Card weekend begins everything…EVERYTHING…is different, new, thrown-out, whatever. The year you guys won Manning was single-handedly responsible for most of the regular season success. Once you guys got into the playoffs he had a rough time (3 INT, 1 TD v KC, 2 INT, 0 TD v BAL, 1 INT, 1 TD v NE), but the glaring weakness of the regular season – the run defense – stepped up and contained Larry Johnson and the Ravens run game. Both the KC and Baltimore games were a little ugly but wins none the less. And the AFC Champ was chaos. Then came the Super Bowl. Low and behold, your Colts ran for a total of about 150+ yds, contained the Bears run game, and played solid D to win out. Granted Rex Grossman helped. That post season for the Colts was a polar opposite of the regular season. In fact, the Colts ‘06-’07 post-season is proof positive that there are no real trending stats or consistent scenarios, its preparation and stepping up. So, if you can get past Week 17, anything can happen!

by OldBay83 on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

did anyone watch that SB? that was one ugly game.

by raven on Jan 13, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

awfully ugly

but the Colts did pound the ball on the ground on a defense that was allegedly able to stop that kind of stuff. The weather didn’t help make things look any prettier. And Vinateiri missed an extra point if i remember correctly. It’s a shame we gave them Stover.

by OldBay83 on Jan 13, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

not to mention that indy’s d came in at 18th in total defense and 24th against the rush while we our 5th in the league in rushing and tied for the league high in rushing tds

by AV23 on Jan 13, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

+1

Buffalo’s ran for 248 yards (F. Jackson had 212) in the last game of the regular season, and the week before the Jets ran for 202 yards. Those numbers would probably have been cut in half had the Colts starters been playing.

I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!

by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 13, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Take out the last two games and the Miami Wildcat game

And the Colts would have the number 10 run defense in the league.

"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"

by Colts Homer on Jan 13, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly...

let’s just start eliminating games with statistics that don’t agree with the point were trying to make. Stats aren’t subjective. You’ve played 16 games, lets count all of em! (Otherwise we’ll discount the San Diego game where Rivers threw for abt 400 billion yards against our secondary)

by OldBay83 on Jan 15, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The Colts have played 14.5 games. But if counting the last 1.5 makes you feel better about playing our defense, by all means feel free. : )

by invisibulman on Jan 15, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Ravens are 1-0 in the postseason...

the indies have yet to win anything yet…

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Jan 15, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I like to think of it

as winning your first game by default.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 15, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

Starting with the 14th game, Polian rested starters who needed some time off, and you saw what happened in the Jets and Bills games (15th and 16th). This is not a case of eliminating games that don’t agree with your point. This is a case of eliminating statistical anomalies that will have no bearing on this game because of unusual circumstances (like resting your entire team).

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.

by Cassieper on Jan 15, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just hoping

that you laid down for the Jets to move on, so perhaps you will do the same for us Saturday night….?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Jan 13, 2010 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Sure no problem...

You should just leave your starters at home to rest them up for the Championship game. We promise we’ll let you win…

by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 13, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

what else is there to say …..The ball bounces funny ways and I hope we get 3 or 4 turnovers. Flacco vs Manning straight up? Ugggh.

by raven on Jan 13, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Where did Pete the Waiter (Pierre Garcon)

come from. Was he on the team last year, and if so did you except a good season from him?

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 14, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

he was on the team, but pretty much only played as a returner

he was a rookie last year, from DIII Mount Union.

We all knew he had potential, but was raw. That’s what we saw. He hardly would have seen the field this year if Gonzalez wouldn’t have gotten hurt. Pierre had a bad case of the dropsies in preseason causing him to lose the 3rd WR job to Collie. Once Gonzalez went down, Collie hadn’t been prepped to play on the outside (just the slot) so Garçon got Gonzo’s starting spot. I think we were all surprised with how much he was able to do with it, especially given the preseason struggles. He’s still raw though. For the 1st half of the season he drew a penalty every game and his hands came and went from week to week. In all he’s had a very good year for a guy 2 years removed from DIII football and we’re all very excited for what he’ll be able to do with more experience.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 14, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Inappropriate

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 14, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

says the man that insulted a poster by saying he had two dads

/can’t we just get along like last year

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Jan 14, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Sarcasm is a gift

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 16, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

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