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Chiefs Want To Forget 2008 Season

FILE -- This is an Aug. 29, 2009, file photo showing Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel in pain after being brought down by Seattle Seahawks defensive tackle Brandon Mebane during the first quarter of their NFL preseason football game in Kansas City, Mo. If Cassel has to miss the beginning of the season with a knee injury, what do the Chiefs do now?  (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner, File)

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2 months ago: FILE -- This is an Aug. 29, 2009, file photo showing Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel in pain after being brought down by Seattle Seahawks defensive tackle Brandon Mebane during the first quarter of their NFL preseason football game in Kansas City, Mo. If Cassel has to miss the beginning of the season with a knee injury, what do the Chiefs do now? (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner, File)

When speaking to the fans of the Baltimore Ravens first game opponents, the Kansas City Chiefs, the common thread I've seen is their desire to throw out anything negative from their 2-14 season record in 2008. Chalk that up to injuries, a stagnant offense, unaggressive defense and the need for the infusion of new leadership both on and off the field.

The new Chiefs feature a new GM, head coach and QB. GM Scott Pioli comes over from the New England Patriots and brought QB Matt Cassel with him. Head Coach Todd Haley was running the offense for the Arizona Cardinals and hopes to infuse high octane into the Kansas City gameplan.

More on the "new" Chiefs after the "Jump."

Star-divide

After the pre-season, there are still questions remaining only days before the season opener. Is QB Matt Cassel healthy enough to start in Baltimore against the stout Ravens defense. Perhaps the Chiefs braintrust might want to protect him by keeping him on the sidelines and playing his backup and last year's starter, Tyler Thigpen instead? However, a Chiefs' fan will point out, they play three of the league's tougher defenses in the first four games in Baltimore, the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants, so there's no hiding for Matt Cassel. Besides, he'll probably have to be restrained in order to keep him off the field Sunday. Coach Haley will be calling the plays for the offense, after releasing Offensive Coordinator Chan Gailey recently.

When discussing the Chiefs' offense, the talk always turns to RB Larry Johnson. Johnson was injured part or most of the 2007 and 2008 seasons and only totaled just over 1,400 yards combined in both seasons after posting two straight seasons of over 1,700 yards in 2005 and 2006. According to Chiefs' sources, Johnson is in as good shape as they have seen him recently and a return to being one of the top picks in most people's fantasy drafts is forthcoming in 2009. However, starting off against the Ravens' #2 ranked run defense makes his start to the 2009 season a tall task.

QB Matt Cassel begins his fifth season in the NFL and prior to last season in New England, he had never thrown more than six passes in an NFL season and hadn't started a game since high school. However, Cassel proved that he belonged in the NFL by taking the reins under center after the season ending injury to All Pro Tom Brady, throwing for almost 3,700 yards and 21 TD passes, and leading the Patriots to an 11-5 record but just missing out on the final Wild Card playoff spot, ironically to our Baltimore Ravens.

The Chiefs will try to protect Cassel behind an offensive line that is strong on the left side, but suspect on the right. They are admittedly better at run blocking than pass protection, which doesn't bode well in this week's matchup in Baltimore. They also lost their All Pro and future Hall of Fame tight end with Tony Gonzalez being traded to the Atlanta Falcons.

Defensively, the Chiefs improved in the latter point of the 2008 season, but still finished 31 out of 32 teams in the league. Tomba Hali leads them in the trenches and 2008 first round draft pick Glenn Dorsey just didn't seem to make the impact he was expected to in his transition from college to the pros. The team drafted Dorsey's college teammate DE Tyson Jackson to shore up the defensive line and put more pressure on the QB, which was a problem last year. 

Despite the Chiefs poor showing in 2008, they play in what may the NFL's weakest division in the AFC West. While the San Diego Chargers look to be the clear leader coming into the 2009 season, anything can happen and they would just love to continue their winning ways in Baltimore, beating the Ravens all three times they've visited this city in the Ravens' tenure here.However, being almost two touchdown underdogs will make this game a tough way to start the season but would make a huge statement if the Chiefs could pull of the upset of week one.

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Nice write-up!

I might also add (as a KC fan) that we have changed our defensive scheme to the 3 -4 as well as bringing in Pendergast (last yrs. Cardinals DC) to run it. He is known for his various alignments & aggressive style to help bring pressure on the QB. Mike Vrable came over to the Chiefs along with Cassel in that trade for a 2nd rounder next year(which raised a lot of eyebrows) & he has made a huge impact with his attitude & knowledge. Several times throughout the preseason, the cameras have cut to him being on the sidelines helping “coach up” some of our other players. I really think that the Chiefs D is going to be vastly improved this year & catch a lot of people by surprise; however, it obviously won’t surprise you guys because I just warned you!

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I too am a Chiefs fan

and would like to add that Tamba Hali is now standing up in the linebacker position, not down in the trenches. It will probably be Dorsey, Tyler, and Jackson manning the front line. Go Chiefs!

by Fourstrike89 on Sep 9, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

While you are “warning” us, most of KC has already had to change their underwear from the amount of fear that our defense puts in your team. Your defense is improved, I will give it to you. I have always been a big time Derrick Johnson and Glenn Dorsey fan, but we are not afraid of any defense. We face Pittsburgh twice a year, what makes you think that your defense is going to make us flinch?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mentioned flinching

or anything other than that we will be vastly improved on the defensive side of the ball. After being rated 31st last year & having only 10 sacks {an historical (hysterical!) low}, we feel like we have taken great strides in remedying those deficiencies. We aren’t to the point yet where we’ll strike fear into the hearts of any OC’s yet but they will need to take notice this year whereas last year our D was comparable to a bye week for the offenses.

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Pittsburgh team beat you three times...

So you’re not exactly standing up to them :)

The Ravens, unlike the Chiefs, usually beat those teams that they should. However, if last year is any indication, they t win all the tough games (PIT twice, IND, TEN, NYG).

That said, I wouldn’t bet against the Ravens in any game.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 9, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait

is this Arrowhead Pride?

;)

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They've been gracious

hosts so we are merely helping them up the traffic on their site! As well as giving them some inside scoops on what to expect! :)

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just about to say that you guys are going to troll so hard that you will raise the hits of out site. Bring it!

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta head back to class, wish I could sit here and destroy you all with my trolling abilities. But it will have to wait until this evening. Please come back and lets fight more.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to

but I have a previous engagement with my daughter, I’ll be back in the morning, and throughout the workday though.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fight?

I was merely trying to give you an advantage in any of your fantasy leagues or with your bookie! Geaux Chiefs!

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the traffic, AP!

and you are right, that the Steelers beat us three times, by barely each time, but they still won. So until we can beat them, they are still tops over us.

I hate saying that, though!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That had to hurt!

Imagine it had to feel something like when the Faiders beat us, if they ever have! I’m sure they did sometime, but I sure don’t remember it!!
:)

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geaux

that is hilarious

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Sep 10, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen all the LSU players

we’ve been drafting? 1st pick 3 years running: Bowe, Dorsey, & Jackson. Starting to get a cajun feel!

by ttownmikey on Sep 10, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do they

have in common besides being Ravens? Small school pick-ups?

by ttownmikey on Sep 10, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Grubbs was LSU, right and Ngata was Oregon.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To explain

the Geaux Chiefs! LSU draftees, cajuns……never mind!

by ttownmikey on Sep 10, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beat those teams that you should? If that were the case, then how come you have not won multiple play off games, had AFCC appearences and won a superbowl in the last……….15 years? Last season is over. Them beating us 3 times last year is the same things as us demolishing them 3 out of 4 times between the 2006 and 2007 seasons.

Oh yea, we did lose to Indi, Ten and NYG in the regular season, but where were those teams again when we were playing Pitt in the AFCC? Oh yea, at home.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As Joel said,

the Chiefs (unlike the Ravens) have not been able to beat the teams we are supposed to yet, but we are working towards changing that.

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misunderstood

My B.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deep breaths, MaLoR

Their team is our enemy, but these guys are our SB Nation friends (unlike the Browns fans!).

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Following what I said

I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry, Joel...

we wonder about him here as well.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, these guys have me SOOOO scared!

They’re like Raiders fans, only birds instead of Pirates…

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMFAO

They’re like the gay version of Raiders fans!

At least our “Superfans” show up with spears and hatchets and shit.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take that back

our superfans are pretty gay too. Every team’s is…

Yours just wear purple camo. Ours have a freakin’ charity.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, watch it!

I’ve got the purple camo pants AND two pairsof Ravens sneakers!

Plus, I can always pull out the Ravens Hawaiian shirt that everyone here just loves to notice!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice

i have a jersey.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Sep 10, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Ravens won't allow me to buy any more jerseys

I bought a Testeverde one and he was soon gone, Next I got a Tony Banks one and then a Grbac one. They won’t sell me a Flacco one!

And no, I never bought a Boller one!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boller was as much your fault as Billick’s.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Sep 10, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malor, did you take this picture of the bus from the slide or the merry-go-round?

by raven on Sep 10, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Na, it was those little tea cups that spin around. Surprised my bugs life camera didn’t blur during the shot.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 10, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent analysis

Best I’ve seen of the Chiefs so far. Kudo’s!

This game I see going one of two ways, Chiefs keep it close by keeping the pressure on with their defense, and causing turnovers, or the Chiefs sucking ass on offense causing turnovers.

The Ravens, well, you’ll be who you have been for awhile now. A tough SOB defensive unit, with an offense that came around last season. Our defense will have to step up big for us in this one to have a chance.

But those Ravens are all pansies anyway…

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How is a Chiefs win possible?

First, let me echo some fellow Arrowhead Pride people with kudos for the write-up, Bruce. I think special teams will go a long way toward determining the outcome of this game. The Chiefs are still experimenting with return guys, and with continuel personnel changes, the blocking and coverage is probably suspect as a unit.. On the plus side of special teams for the Chiefs, more emphasis has been directed toward special team play when it came to choosing the final 53. The Chiefs’ defense is so good, btw, that Derrick Johnson is third string on the LB depth chart. :)

Scoring

  • Leggett, pick 6, Succup e.p. 1 + Succop three FGs, 9 = Chiefs 16
  • Derrick Mason 56 yd reception 6, Steven Hauschka e.p. 1 + Ray Rice 3 yard run 6 + e.p. 1 = 14
    Final Score Chiefs 16, Ravens 14.

Highlights

  • Tyson Jackson and Jon McGraw each force funbles
  • Jackson and Magee tip a total of three passes at the line of scrimmage
  • Tank Tyler (“new” nose tackle) 7 tackles
  • Sacks by Vrabel, Hali and Carr
  • Gailey Haley calls a creative (not gimmicky) gameplan
  • Time of possession is split evenly
  • Chiefs give away one int and one fumble (fumble one of the kick-offs, leading to one of their two TDs.)
  • DJ comes in for limited play, but blows up a screen pass in impressive fashion
  • Ryan O’Callaghan plays the whole game at RT
  • Cassell starts, but Croyle plays half the game
  • Unfortunately, no offensive TDs by the Chiefs
  • Fortunately, Chiefs still win — Peter King then says, "KC sleeper Super Bowl contender?"

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Michael Jackson can die so young

then anything can happen. But that would take us playing AWFUL and you playing GREAT. All the stars would have to align and dogs would lie down w/ cats as well. Possible, yet hard to see.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dog

flips out whenever he sees my cat. It’s hilarious.

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Sep 9, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Underdogs and Pussycats

You know your team is the underdog when your best case scenario is a 16-14 win, while the Ravens’ best case scenario is a 49-3 win. Yes, the Chiefs will need a little help, but it’s why we play the game.

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why we play the game?

You auditioning for a Coors Light gig? Herm, say it ain’t so!
j/k sunny D :)

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roll the motivational tape...

You play…to win…the game!

(Herm just forgot that you practice…to play…four quarters!)
New regime. Scarce information. We’ll see how good the Ravens are at game-time adjustments, because there can’t be a whole lot of game planning that’s going to mean much against the new-look Chiefs.

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Practice?

We talkin’ ’bout practice, man!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a game, not a game, not a game...

we talkin’ ’bout practice…

How the hell can I make my teammates better by practice?

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Sep 10, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually Chiefs had two offensive TDs. Thigpen threw to Cottam. Cassel threw to Bowe.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 9, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predictions

I didn’t make it very clear that the highlights listed above are predictions for Sunday.

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Ah, I see it now. We’ll see if you are right.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 10, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Pizon

That was a great game! Next!

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."

"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."

by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Sep 10, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget last season?

Never, you have to remember the bad times to truly enjoy the good times.

by mcclanahanman on Sep 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then it's a good thing

for Ravens fans that their team is so young, so infantile, that they really have no bad times to remember… Oh wait, I guess there was that time when the Colts ran out of town overnight because Baltimore sucked so bad, and then you guys stole the team from Cleveland…

Is that a win?

Hey, Purple camo! Am I right?

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pouring salt in open wound

Just don’t go there…

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I can sympathize with that

Guess it’s too early. Probably not helping that I’m reading Deadspins “Why your team sucks” ruffiage today.

God, those guys are atrociously hilarious.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without the sorrow,

one cannot truly enjoy the good times that are coming!

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if only it were true...
The Chiefs will try to protect Cassel behind an offensive line that is strong on the left side, but suspect on the right.

Calling our right side “suspect” is like calling Hitler a “meanie-poo-poo-head”. We signed who we hope to be our starting RT after the last preseason game, if that gives any indication of what kind of shape we’re in. Our only hope of stopping the rush of the left side of the Balt-D is if we line up in the wishbone and all three RBs just crash the right side to help with blocking.

That being said, we might get a couple screens to be successful, and we will probably run to the left side w/ at least a little success, and maybe the defenders on our right side will be in the backfield so fast they will, in fact, open up a “hole” (can the entire right side of the line be called one hole?) that Charles can explode through w/ his crazy skeelz.

by thehulk on Sep 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for the analogy
Calling our right side "suspect" is like calling Hitler a "meanie-poo-poo-head".

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's different?

The Ravens have been pretty inconsistent the last few years. Here are their win totals for the last five years:

11, 5, 13, 6, 9….why won’t this trend continue putting them in for a down year? What’s the biggest difference as to why the Ravens can sustain this success?

by Joel Thorman on Sep 9, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 things

Harbaugh, Flacco, Price. I’m just sayin…

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Sep 9, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Rice

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Sep 9, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ravens "down" year in 2007 was due

to horrible injuries. We pretty much stayed healthier in 2008 in key positions and had better depth so we returned to that 2006 level and now we have even more experience and depth and if healthy,…watch out!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t make fun of their costumes. My bro and I are dressing up as knights with 7’s on our backs.

by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Sep 9, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol sweet!

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Sep 9, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not the

Kansas City Cavaliers, Templars, or any other mascot even remotely related to medievel times. I get the Cassel correlation, but no… just no. For halloween? Ok, sure. That’s somewhat creative. But to go to a game?

by IISaiNtII on Sep 9, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With a baby pool aroung your gut for the moat?

Are you going to the game? Helmets off during the action, please. :)
Pic of Cassel in full pads.

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the

Kansas City Bombers Roller Derby Women’s team w/ the sultry Raquel Welch? She was the original “da’ bomb!”

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yessir!

Hot, hot, & more hot! It was the Bay City Bombers, I believe, & currently not remembering the KC team name but yeah: HOT, hot, hot!

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arrowhead Pride has officially taken the Troll title away from me….Congrats guys

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gang tackling

and thanks for the comments on AP

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am banned from 9 blogs total throughout SB Nation. Can you beat that?!?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah,

but isn’t this rapport better than becoming banned?

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, being banned from 9 sounds impressive

But you fail to mention that 8 of them are golf blogs. You can’t even get above a whisper on those things without being banned.

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea right, the Waggle Room loves me! (Only golf blog on SB Nation)

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I met Ryan from Waggle ROom

and he’s a stand up guy! What?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Me and him have been trying to set up a day to play golf cause he is from Baltimore.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 10, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haley is poo without the AZ offense
Pioli was just lucky to be in NE

They are so far removed from those once in a lifetime players they cannot hope to achieve such success again. I would have rather brought in a few coaches who took bad teams to .500 records. That would mean more than raiding great systems for statue coaches.

by raven on Sep 9, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Skeptical at first

I for one was not particularly impressed with the Chiefs coaching hires in the off season. I’m liking both GM Pioli and Haley more as time goes on, though. Game results will really tell the tale, but they seem to be doing good jobs. The defensive coaching hires don’t have much of a successful track record, so the jury is definitely out on those guys. Here’s some insight from ESPN.com today:

Curt Warner on Todd Haley
Todd…was very much a vocal, in-your-face, challenging type coach that would really push guys. Sometimes that would show itself in anger and frustration, …but the one thing I appreciated about Todd was, he pushed us to be great and he wasn’t worried about being our best friend. He just wanted us to respect him for making us better players. I appreciate that part of it.

by sunny D on Sep 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haley will challenge the team, especially th offense

to improve and they will. Give it time, as there are a lot of holes to fill but hey, you play in the AFC West, so anything’s possible.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rice, McClaine and McGahee should get 200 yards combined. Wait until you Chief fans see Rice in the open field. He is tough to bring down. Guys a whole lot bigger will be stunned with his stiff arms. Beware the the screen pass. That is all I can say. Death by 3 yard passes. Once your down by 10 our “Crazy” D comes out and there is no better time to be a Raven fan watching that slaughter.

by raven on Sep 9, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, impressive

Glad to see you bring the positive attitude, raven!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We face San Diego twice a year

I think we know about small stout backs :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

About that Chiefs defense...

They were ranked 31st out of 32 teams and then they changed schemes. The thing about the scheme change is that it takes a while to get players who fit the system. Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee may be solid contributers in a 3-4 but the switch left Dorsey and Hali (both former first rounders) out in the cold. The starting corner backs are both second year players and the chiefs just released their starting SS. I’m not seeing a lot to be scared about on this defense, particularly with how strong the Ravens offense should be. I would not be surprised to see Flacco post the best line of his career… I’m thinking passing for 250+ yards and 3 tds.

by ello on Sep 9, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Cassel if he plays has 2-400 yard games.

I was hoping for rain to see if Flacco could hold on to the ball.
82 and sunny, Chiefs might have to work a little harder to seperate Flacco from the Ball.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cassel Stats

2008 NFL Game Log

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we had Cassel on Sunday, Big If, he has put up greater numbers than Flacco

Flacco has some issues with ball security and we hope to take advantage of that :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cassel should pass a lot Sunday

and whomever plays will probably have to do so due to the Ravens ability to stop the run and if Baltimore gets a decent lead, any QB from KC will be airing it out to catch up.

PS – I wanted the Ravens to draft Brandon Flowers as I thought and still think he’ll be a quality CB.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 9, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

Anyone (okay not anyone, but most NFL quarterbacks) could put up respectable numbers in an offense that throws alot of the time and also has Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

I’ll admit that I havn’t watched too much of Cassel other than the normal highlight reels, but nothing that I’ve seen from him suggests he’ll be anything better than an average QB given the Chiefs’ personnel. If he’s ever gonna prove himself, Sunday would be a great time to start. Should be interesting to watch how he responds.

They say the empty can rattles the most...

by Massacre on Sep 10, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny you mention Hali

Because today your head coach and starting quarterback said they’re keeping an eye on him because he’s looked so good.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 9, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent

I’ve always liked that guy it was just that over the offseason I heard he was struggling adjusting from the role of a 4-3 DE to a 3-4 one. I hope for his sake he does well.

by ello on Sep 9, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the most part

he’s just standing up now, rather than being in a 3-point stance on the line.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 10, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A guy goes to one night class

and the Beatdown is infested! Ha.

Haloti Ngata, remember the name.

Scott Hines

by shines on Sep 9, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s that silent “G” that keeps him out of the Pro Bowl every year.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Sep 9, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Madden, the commentators say “Nuh-Got-Tuh” It is really bad.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 9, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Lion King

they pronounce it Hakuna Matata meaning no worries! And even have a song about him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kh7k_-g0Rk

by ttownmikey on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classic

This is by far my favorite.

Scott Hines

by shines on Sep 9, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The difference in the 3-4 or 4-3 is all in whether Terrrell Suggs puts his hand on the ground or not on any given play. So really, they’re just numbers at this point. The Ravens defense transcends your mortal traditional schemes.

by ello on Sep 10, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Our mortal is Tamba Hali who used to put a hand in the dirt.
Interesting to see two teams transitioning week one to the others Base D.
I know I saw 2 in the dirt lineman and 5 backers at times this pre-season.
Who knows on Sunday what the D’s do :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 10, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense, but..

….do not even begin to compare Hali to Suggs at this points in their careers. Of course, their roles may be the same but the “disruption” of their efforts are worlds apart.

However, I understand your point.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which foot is Ngata having an issue with?

just as I really want it to get better next Monday :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 9, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all due respect...

If the Ravens defense is anything like the smack talk on here you guys are screwed. This is the most pathetic excuse of homeland defense I’ve ever seen! It’s like I’m on ArrowheadPride “lite.”

Ray Lewis is a washed up stat-padder throwing himself on piles after someone else makes the play. Intimidation level – 0.
Haloti Ngata? As is Ngata chance in hell of being worth a damn on Sunday against even the Chiefs meager offensive line? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

It’s sad your defense is the strongpoint of your team. Really. Your defense almost mirrors the Chiefs before they released Pollard, the Safety was the best one on the field… that’s weak sauce.
“But wait! we only allowed opposing teams 250 yards/game! That’s impressive!!!” Not when you consider the Chiefs were playing a thrown-together offense getting 18 ppg and 300 yards, led by their 3rd string QB no less (Tyler “Someone catch this duck!” Thigpen)

The Chiefs are a shadow of themselves from last season on both sides of the ball. You’d better be hoping your boys come to play, or their dicks are gonna get knocked in the dirt.

Here’s an example of what you can expect on Sunday:

That is Sir Tyler Thipen making Ray Lewis his bitch. Good Day.

I SAID GOOD DAY!

(I said with all due respect…)

by IISaiNtII on Sep 10, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very disturbing

I would think you (and the boney guy) would have a bit more decency than that.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that an Olson Twin in the picture?

by raven on Sep 10, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amy Winehouse, perhaps?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

he/she must be a juvenile. indict him!

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Sep 11, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he got a BONER! Get it?!?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 10, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the picture looks like someone flipped on the lights in MaLors dorm room.

by raven on Sep 10, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again

I have not lived in the dorms in 3 years butt head

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 10, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fact Is Mr SaiNt

The Chiefs aren’t worth getting all riled up over. We kinda feel sorry in advance for the beat down your about to take Sunday, so you might as well take advantage of the opportunity to talk now.

by DT711 on Sep 10, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dually noted

and well received :)

I gotta talk sh!t before being served my “crow.” (because we’re going to eat raven..)

by IISaiNtII on Sep 12, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also,

I feel kind of sorry you guys have such high hopes for whats sure to be a down season.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 12, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guys

a blogsite G! I love it! Yo said Baltimore dont want it with Kansas City!

Scott Hines

by shines on Sep 11, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what I have read...

You folks are pretty high on your Ravens. Which is great, you have very good reason to be hyped. It seems to be your analysis that every aspect of your team is improved and a strength. In your view, do the Ravens have any weaknesses?

by sandpro on Sep 10, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our biggest issue is depth

on the o-line and at CB. Our o-line looks aces, but the depth due to injuries looks scary. Our starting and even nickel coverage is solid but with the dime and dollar packages, the depth wears thin and if injuries accumulate, I’d be worried. Of course, everyone thinks our WR’s are worthless, but to me it won’t matter who is catching Flacco’s rockets. Just watch.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

our CB’s are unproven (for ravens) and small. their mental and physical makeup is a worry. we did not improve like I thought we needed to. the steelers and physical receivers will again be tough on us. ed reed will again have to babysit and cover a lot of ground.

our #2 and #3 LB’s are not seasoned guys. they have size and speed but lack in game know how. ray will have to babysit these guys for a while.

our kick returning is suspect as we do not have a clear cut winner. we put the ball on the ground in the pre-season. we lost Leonhard and the underachieving Figurs. it will be a first year raven back there though. i’m not expecting much from this group. they are very small. we should bring Jermaine Lewis out of retirement.

by raven on Sep 10, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually I like the mix

of speed at the corners and the thumpers behind them in Landry and Reed and in front of them with our front seven. Great combination in my opinion, to match up with both spped and physical teams. Hines Ward will get hit and Santonio Holmes will be covered.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Sep 10, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the priest says-let us pray.

the hits by landry won’t matter when the receivers land in the endzone dragging little webster and erkle.

i get what your saying but he asked for our concerns. it’s not a huge concern but something to watch. we know how ward likes to slant and curl at about 8 yards muscleing our smaller guys. let’s hope landry lays the wood better than nakamura and zbi did. i’m not knocking these guys and they should be much improved. it will be fun to see how far they’ve progressed. i think landry is a po-bowler and would have been last year.

by raven on Sep 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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