Flacco, Ravens' Offense Continue Progression
If you thought the Baltimore Ravens second year QB Joe Flacco had reached a plateau by having his first 300 yard passing day earlier this season, you were obviously mistaken as evidenced by yesterday's performance. Flacco blew away his previous milestone by passing for 342 yards, connecting on 25 of 35 attempts, with one TD and no interceptions, for a 111.8 QB rating. Not bad for the guy so many "experts" were predicting a sophomore slump, right?
For the year, Joe the QB now has thrown for 839 yards, six TD's and only 2 interceptions for a QB rating of 101.4. With two games, both at home, of over 300 yards passing, he has now firmly implanted himself as not only the offensive star of this franchise, but among the league leaders as well. Compared to the rest of the league's QB's Flacco is 7th in yards passing (839), 9th in completion percentage (65.4%), 6th in average/attempt (8.1), tied for 4th in TD passes (6) and 5th in the league in passer rating, trailing only Drew Brees, Peyton and Eli Manning and Matt Schaub.
More on "Flacco, Ravens Offense Continue Progression" after the 'Jump.'
As a team, the Baltimore offense is ranked second in the NFL and that is not a typo, Ravens fans! Trailing only the pass crazy New Orleans Saints, the Ravens are averaging 430.3 yards of total offense per game. We are 2nd in the league in total plays from scrimmage, behind the New England Patriots and 4th in yards per play. The Ravens passing offense and quick scoring capabilities may have hurt our time of possession statistics, but we are still near the top, ranking 7th in that category.
As a team, the Ravens rank 5th in the NFL in passing yards/game, 4th in rushing yards and second in points scored, behind those same New Orleans Saints. RB Willis McGahee leads the entire NFL in scoring and touchdowns! He has scored six TD's, five rushing and one receiving, two more than any other player and is the only non-kicker in the top eleven scorers so far in 2009! Not bad for a guy who many said was washed up and doesn't even start on the high flying offense that are your Baltimore Ravens!
More to follow on the team's defense in tomorrow's post. For now, post your thoughts on what is becoming one of the league's offensive powerhouses this season and certainly the best in the Ravens history.
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Quibbling
I’d was hoping to see the ground game chew up the clock, especially in the 4th quarter. I still wonder if they are not taxing McGahee to try to save him later in the season.
by drj on Sep 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta think the Browns fans
loved seeing that bomb in the 4th quarter up by 27-3, huh?
So much for long time consuming drives. The BEAST is HUNGRY! Feed him!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm loving the fact
That we’ve had 3 different leading receivers in 3 weeks of play. And a “healthy” LJ Smith could be a great addition. I was highly upset with him, but he seemed to make the most of his opportunity.
Scott Hines
by shines on Sep 28, 2009 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I like it
because if it is part of a long term plan (meaning the later parts of this season, a.k.a. the playoffs), it could really pay off. Right now, I think it is great to try and determine Flacco’s ceiling, and so far he hasn’t even shown one. The added benefit of this is that it will help keep Rice and McGahee fresh, so when other teams are getting banged up, tired, and worn down late in the year, we will be able to have those punishing run it down your throat type of drives with Rice, McGahee, and McClain.
by klunker18 on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why chew up then clock? game was locked up by half. it was party time!! i wanted to see Joe run up the core like Rutgers on MD.
i would have liked for Troy to get in for a few more series to knock some rust off. gotta keep the opine riders oiled.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to beat my own drumb a little. i called for Quinn’s 1/2 time benching and Joes record yardage. but, i also said our DB’s were as soft as pillows. oh well. it’s still early.
can someone tell me how Miami shut down SD’s O for much of the game. maybe the chargers blew it all on us. OR maybe reed decided staying back was a better idea this week.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Bruce said in regards to the pass D
It was ONE game. It was a terrible match up for us and we were burned, between the 20’s, but held them where it matters – Red Zone. We won a big game on the West Coast. It was a great win and while our pass D must continue to gel, we are probably not as bad as we looked against the Chargers and probably not as good as we looked against the Browns. As with most things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. With this offense that should be more then good enough to make some noise.
by DT711 on Sep 28, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw some of that game
Sproles and running was the big difference. I think Sproles ran the ball 20 times and only had a couple passes. Sproles had big passing yardage against the Ravens and only ran about 10 times. Otherwise, Gates and Jackson didn’t have much problem getting their yards.
by drj on Sep 28, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Running up the score is the college BCS influenced game. Ramming a ball down the opponents throat with a power running game, when they know it is coming, is even more satisfying. I’m just wanted to see the running game dominate and close out the game. On the other hand, McGahee is not a workhorse. Like I said, it’s quiblling.
by drj on Sep 28, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all in good fun..i’d take the pound it approach to closing it out as much as the passing. it was all just pure giddy enjoyment.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i shouldn’t have brought up the DB’s at all. and SD is old news. performance in the 2nd game can be drastically different in the 4th game. i think this will be the case in NE.
is it me, or does Tom Brady seem to be caught crying and whining in every camera shot? i think Tom Bunchen is turning into a little catwalk bitch. Zoolander Brady.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very impressive
Well the offense impressed me in many ways yesterday. I know the Browns are hapless, but we still took the game seriously and that is so important. Joe definitely got in a good rhythm and would have looked even better without a few drops that might have been caught. Of course this is the Browns but he got that extra 100 yards passing that I was talking about last week. He needs these kind of numbers every week and I am starting to think he may get them. I love how he spread his passes around to so many receivers. Keep the defenses guessing. Also, unlike last year, he is not telegraphing which receiver he is throwing to. You used to be able to see exactly who he wanted right away. He is so close to getting some of those long bombs completed and when he finally gets that down look out league. That will stretch some D’s in a big way. Ray and Willis are doing well with the one two halfback punch. I love seeing Ray Rice catch the ball them slip away from a defender and get 6 more yards out of it. We have needed a receiving back for so long and McClain can catch too. Definitely a good time to get it going with NE coming up next weekend.
by Rayfan1 on Sep 28, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Rice
Does anyone know what number Ray Rice is? I saw some clown wearing #39 Rice jersey!
I know for a fact that Rice wears #27 doesn’t he raven.
by section117 on Sep 28, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He switched numbers before this season
by DT711 on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was 27 last year as well.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
He wore 39 in camp and preseason last year
by DT711 on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Madden this year and last he started off 38.
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
by Baltimore Warrior on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
raven
Yeah I know my buddy raven thought he was getting a bargain last year and bought #39 and I have been busting on him ever since! So anytime Rice scores everyone has to ask raven what number is Ray Rice!
by section117 on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
by Baltimore Warrior on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
section117’s jersey has a big Crown Gas patch on the right sleeve and Shop Right across the back shoulders. its cool though.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PERFECT time for NE. Healthy, condfident and complete. We are going to destroy NE. 34-17 if Harbs doesn’t allow his Coords. to pucker up.
This is the test I need to see if our Coords. will have the balls to keep playing agressive. Cam needs to keep the foot on the passing game and Matts needs to keep the pressure dialed up. this discussion will be for later as we ENJOY the fruits of vistory and 1st place.
WIRE to WIRE in the year of the TV show The Wire.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think...
Tom Brady can ever believe he will only score 17 points in a game.
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
by iLL on Sep 28, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 17? That’s all we are going to score? Lol, just look at the anus I have on my chin.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 28, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't give Brady time
I heard today that he was 11-13 when the opponents only put seven in the box. Not too sure what they mean by this, as there’s no way I’m utting more than that with their run game and our run defense. However, we do need to rush more than four guys to get pressure on Brady. I’d say 3-4 linemen and 1 or 2 LB’s, so we rush five every time he drops back.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 28, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second that
We can not give Brady time and if we contain Moss we win the game. Our defense I believe can do well if we just contain moss but if we have a repeat of San Diego Moss could have 3 TD’s and our offense will have to have another major game. While we still might have a chance to win that way, I rather contain moss and win 31-13.
by ShaneOmacDaddy on Sep 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple things.
- I think everyone needs to be giving some serious credit to Steve Hauschka. He made two big time kicks for us yesterday that were kicked perfect. He was money on kick offs all day and put it in a spot where Cribbs was going to have to break off some serious yards to have an impacting return. Graham who?
- Chris Carr’s time is slowly running out. He is looking to be not even close to an upgrade over Figurs. And it is not just these first 3 games, he was terrible in pre-season, and you all know it. 7 games straight so far where I have seen nothing impressive from him. And his play as a DB is terrible as well. Every time the ball carrier is near Carr, he gets juked and just runs with his hands wide open trying to not look like that much of a fool. Not happy with him at all so far and our return game is too weak for having such a great coaching staff with Harbaugh and Jerry Rosburg.
- With that, I want to see more Lardarius Webb. That is 2 straight games where he has made a killer special teams play on a Sam Koch punt and stopped it on the 1 yard line. The man is a baller and maybe one of the best athletes on this team. If Carr keeps up these terrible returns and stumbling every where, I think Webb needs to be brought into the picture a little more.
- The pass rush is good, but not as great as I know it can be. I think we lack a DE that is great at pass rush and this will be an area we address after this season. Pryce is serviceable, but this defense has to much of a killer image to not be having 4-6 sacks a game. But hey, we are getting pressure and pressure leads to 4 interceptions like yesterday. I will take some turnovers any day.
- McGahee is back. It is that simple. This has been my favorite Raven outside of Ray and Reed, and I am so glad I stuck by this guy. He is absolutely destroying defenses right now. The whole running game in general is great. 192 yards for Rice and 191 for McGahee, could you ask for better balance? McClain is unstoppable on anything 3 yards and less and is a much better pass catcher and open field runner then people think he is. He is not just running into people at first, a 260 pound man is actually making people miss then falling forward for 3 more yards.
- Kelly Washington. I do not know where to start here. This man has made me punch myself for complaining so much about not getting anyone in the off-season or draft. I heard yesterday that of the 12 catches he has on the year, only 1 of those is not for a first down. That is incredible and I love the energy he brings. He beat out D-Will who has been with this system for a while now and that says alot about the type of player and worker K-Wash is. I think we may be looking at another Ozzie gem.
- It was good for the guys in our secondary to get 3 interceptions yesterday. Landry, D-Fox and Reed. I thought that was a great pass to Edwards on Landry’s interception and those were the types of passes that the Chargers killed us with all day. But Landry stepped in there and made a great play. Fabian was quiet, but that is because he shut down one of the most explosive players in the game, Josh Cribbs. Cribbs is their 2nd WR at the moment, and he went without a catch. Great job Fabian.
All in all, you really could not ask for a more complete win. Add in the Steelers losing and still thinking they are better than last year, and this season could not start off any more perfectly.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 28, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey fellas, I took a week off there...
MaLoR, I think a lot of our defensive lapses are due to Mattison. I’m not putting him on the hot seat, or calling him a bad DC already, but I do have some problems with schematics at this point.
For instance, remember that slant to Braylon that set up the only FG of the game? (NOT A HUGE DEAL, I KNOW, I KNOW…) He put the overload on Reed’s side and showed his hand very early. Anderson and Reed both knew the ball was going to Edwards pre-snap, and there was nothing that was going to change that. Based on the pre-snap read, there was clearly going to be a clear-out of all the LBs on that side (something Ryan would have been sneakier about) and the slant was going to be there regardless of coverage. As a result, Reed was left all alone to stand over top of the slant. Although Reed could clearly tell what was about to happen (you could tell from his body language), he was unable to roam free because he would have given up a touchdown over the top. That play call restricted him, and there were others like it.
Now, before everyone jumps on me, I understand that he’s still ironing out wrinkles. I’m supportive of him. I’m just pointing out that there have been some calls I didn’t like. I’m sure Mattison is learning on the job and will improve in the coming weeks.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not fair to Mattison
Reed has been a step slow this season, as I was all over him for no help in the SD game. We are pretty much using the same schemes as we did w/ Rex, but have the same philosophy as well which is to bend but not break and it seems to be doing fine so far!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the same schemes, yes
but same playcalling, no.
You can understand a DC wanting to lean on Reed a lot, but I think my example above is a case in point where relying on him to a fault actually constricts his movement. He couldn’t jump the Edwards route like he wanted to because if Edwards had read that jump he could’ve just broken deep for the TD with no help over the top.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 28, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just don't agree
Much different DB’s on this team than on last year or previous years. Fabian and Dominique just play the ball differently than C-Mac and Samari did. They rely more on speed than physical cover skills. Ask Harbaugh, scheme is basically the same as Rex’.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i understand that
and i understand that the schemes are the same
you might be right that this is just a symptom of a different style of play in the secondary, but i’m just pointing out that when Reed is asked to do more, in a way, he isn’t able to gamble as much.
I think I’m just a perfectionist. Everyone would love to just sit around and say “yes we’re the best in the nFL right now” but I’m just looking at little things where I think we can and will improve. Mattison is a LB guy first and foremost so it makes sense that he might put DBs in more one-on-one situations so that he can really unload his ammo with the LB blitzes.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 29, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta love K-Wash
the guy is 30 and you can tell he’s happy to be on an actual offense, rather than just covering kickoffs. He looks and acts like he has a new lease on life, and I’m happy we’re the ones who gave it to him! Leave it to ozzie to find the diamond in the rough!
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 28, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and D. Williams is...
….where?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was just saying that everyone at the game
notice how no. 15 has stolen all of 87’s reps? I’m fine with it. If he’s playing better he should be playing more, and he is—on both counts.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 29, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy for us, lord knows I am but...
I’m not drinking the Kool Aid til I see how we perform against the Patriots this weekend. If we are as good as we’ve looked against 3 average to bad teams, we should be able to beat the Pats.
by DAllen on Sep 28, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait for the pats game
It seemed like every single sports website had us losing to both the Chargers and Pats in the first four games. We already went into S.D. and tool care of bussiness, now its time to go into New England and Destroy Tom Brady. I’m expecting a similar type of game the Jets had with them except were going to pound the rock 35-40 times. Both Willis and Ray will get over 100 yards.
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Benji5203 on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree and think that
other than the Jets now w/ Rex, the rest of the AFC East seems soft. Remember how we bullied Miami twice last year while they gave fits to almost everyone else. We are by far the most physical team that NE has played so far and will not be able to handle us.
Heck we almost beat them when we sucked. Now, playing great, it might not be as close as it was in SD if we keep playing like this!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batlimore is the REAL DEAL
SportsMumboJumbo.com
With the Defense coming around after letting up 2 20+ point performances the defense seemed to be back to their old Rex Ryan days. With Flacco playing like he is now, I think they are the team to beat in the AFC
by EricFeld on Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you’re watching a different football league over there at SportsMumboJumbo, but I don’t remember the Chiefs putting up 20+ points against the Ravens defense.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Sep 28, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that guys a real sportsmumbodumbo
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
About Flacco:
Having seen the game in person sunday I saw a few things I haven’t seen from the TV yet. Mainly, its coverages, which the camera angle doesn’t show you unless a play is replayed from the wire angle or unless the ball is thrown downfield.
My conclusion is this: despite the excellent performance from Flacco and co., it is clear that Flacco is still playing well below his ceiling. That’s a good thing—not a bad thing. This may be hard to understand if you saw it on TV, but even though Flacco threw for 340+, he still missed a few reads that could have been big plays.
So what I’m saying is that as Flacco continues to progress, things are just going to get better and better. Although we may not have a scorch-your-pants WR on the wing, we do have reliable hands with every eligible reciever we put on the field. Rice, McGahee, McClain, Smith, Heap, K-Wash, Clayton, and Mason all catch balls with the desired reliability. Imagine—If Flacco is at 70% of his potential RIGHT NOW, what will defenses need to be prepared for once he peaks at 100%?? This guy has scary potential.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how am i a party pooper
i’m just saying he still has room to improve. if 340 yards leaves you with room to improve, you can expect absolute beastrocity in due time
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“missed a few completions”
if he didn’t, he’d be the first man in the universe to throw anything at anything and hit it 100% of the time ; )
by raven on Sep 29, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lots of guys don't get all their completions
but still basically make all the right reads.
Damn I thought I pre-empted this by saying that you shouldn’t jump on me…
Look, against a team like cleveland there will be multiple plays where you have multiple options, so you can get a completion for good yards, even a first down, while still missing a wide-open Kelley Washington streaking down the left-center of the field. Its no disaster. I’m just saying—he’s playing with a lot of talent around him and it’s tantalizing to think of what he will accomplish once he’s really reading everything the way Cam intends him to.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 29, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“its no disaster”
Sheesh. now you’re throwing the disaster word out there. You forgot to add “but close” at the end of that sentence. I thought Joe had a great game.
by raven on Sep 29, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anything less than perfection
means room for improvement, then we understand. But you’re sitting in the stands with a completely different view. To us, it looks like you won’t be satisfied w/ anything less than perfection.
Besides, just because you pre-empted your post w/ “don’t jump on me,” that would never stop these guys here on The Beatdown! Silly you.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am satisfied with 3-0, I’ll put it that way.
And whatever gets us to 4-0 and then 5-0, I’ll also be happy with. But I’m definitely on the “room for improvement” side. I’m not telling you guys that this isn’t good enough. You can’t be any better than undefeated—I just think that in the weeks to come you’ll see even more precision from our offense. It’s something I’m looking forward to; I’m not finding fault in what has thus far been a flawless season.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 29, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no such thing as perfect football. But you can definitely bet that all these guys know they can improve on so many things. Coach Harbaugh even said that there are 1,000 things that we can work on, but we are still winning. This team is not even playing its best football right now, and that is what’s scary.
The running game has been very solid, but yet to explode. Like raven said, our RB are in 2nd gear right now, and teams should be really worried about that. Joe has been great, but is still missing passes that we all know he can make. I think Joe is playing at about 70% right now. And then there is the defense, which did not look like B-More at all in the first 2 games. If we are allowing 50 rushing yards a game, offenses are going to have to pass for 350 at least to keep up with Joe and crew, and I do not see that happening EVERY game.
The best team in the league still needs to improve? That is freaking scary.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Pennington's career looks to be over...
…they’re saying he’ll need a second opinion, but at this point, it’s a torn capsule due to a dislocation and that all adds up to two letters: “I” and “R.”
And with that being the third such IR injury to that man’s throwing shoulder, I’d say we’ve seen Pennington’s last hurrah.
It’s a shame. I always liked Pennington. He’s a leader, he makes all the right reads, and he wins the damn games. But it looks like it’s Chad Henne time until further notice.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 28, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying for awhile
that team is going nowhere and the sooner they begin the other Chad’s career (Henne), the better for the team’s long term growth.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Sep 28, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hit on penny wasn’t even hard. he landed softly too. it’s probably been bothering him for a few weeks.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or he's probably just got a delicate shoulder
with this being the third time on IR due to that shoulder, I’d say that’s probably the case.
I always liked Pennington, but I think Bruce has probably been proven correct on this one. When playing with Pennington, you’re sortof just waiting for the other shoe to drop in that you know you’ll be replacing him due to injury before too long.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Sep 29, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep. bet they miss Beck right about now.
by raven on Sep 29, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nahhh....Henne will be pretty decent
He played for four years, from freshman to senior at Michigan and usually won those tough Big Ten matchups w/ OSU, playing in front of 100,000+ crowds every week. The Dolphins drafted his LT, Jake Long with the first pick and grabbed him in the 3rd round. That was the year we got Flacco and I was almost thinking we should have taken a CB in the first round and Henne in the second instead of Flacco in the 1st and Rice in the second. I also thought we might have been able to get Slaton in the 3rd that year. Might look like Ozzie made the right decisions, but if we had Aqib Talib, Henne and Slaton, that wouldn’t have been a bad group, either.
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by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed your quote
He played for four years, from freshman to senior at Michigan and never won those tough Big Ten matchups w/ OSU
Henne lost to OSU all four years for a record of 0-4.
by DT711 on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah jurys out on henne
could be good, might not be. time will tell. Brady wasn’t half as good as Henne was in college, so that’s the case in point that you just never know.
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by jackmca on Sep 29, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Pat White has a better shot than Henne to be good. White is a baller.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for correcting me, DT
Didn’t know he lost all those games, but he played four years at QB, which is a lot to say for the Big Ten. However, I think he’s a better pocket passer for the pros than White will be.
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by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pats blog is a little sparse but the 3 of them are a little concerned about the pass protection and receiver depth. They aren’t sure about Moss and Welker’s health. They are worried about Galloway’s drops and route running as he’s not on the same page as Brady at this point.
They will rely heavily on our old nemesis Fred Taylor who averaged over 5 yards a carry against the Falcons (about 21-110). They also have Maroney. So, at this point they are looking to pound the rock and hit Moss when its open. We take away Taylor and their toast. When tall guys like Moss get back injuries they don’t go away in 2 weeks.
We just need to get over the physcological hurdle of Belichek and their past success. We need to play loose and creative. We can afford the trick plays. We have the talent and they work. Bread and butter against a smart team doesn’t go over very well. I’d take the O play calling from either the SD or Cleveland game, bottle it and take it to NE for the win.
by raven on Sep 28, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Moss and Welker don't play,
I actually don’t expect the game to be that close. Their defense is way over rated and their run game will be non-existent. They need the quick underneath slanting receiver and the over the top tall fast deep guy to beat us. Otherwise, I agree, they’re toast!
4-0 coming home to face Cincy would be so sweet!
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by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
may they all be healthy. it will make the victory even sweeter.
by raven on Sep 29, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thought I add
some love for the Offensive Line. Flacco could do his taxes in the amount of time they were giving him. And I got to believe that the big guys completely hide little Ray Rice at the start of plays. Speaking of Rice, not only was his first TD nice, he did a great job protecting Flacco as well a few times.
Anyone else notice the dude we traded to the Pats was already cut? I guess they got done with debriefing him on the Ravens and then just cut him lose.
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by UMBC Oriole fan on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I did notice they cut Burgess
We won’t get a pick if they don’t resign him for a period of time.
They picked up a DT to fill depth in regards to Wilfork being injured. If they are missing Wilfork, Moss or Welker, let alone 2 or 3 of them, they will be in trouble on Sunday.
by DT711 on Sep 29, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I could pick any two, it would be Wilfork and Welker. Wilfork is a top 5 DT in this league and will cause some trouble for us. However, if Matt Birk plays like he did against Shawn Rodgers, Wilfork is in for a long day.
Then there is Welker, who is by far the best slot WR in the game. Probably over the last 3 years. That man could kill us all day long. Would Carr be covering him? That scares me. Moss will be a semi-challenge. He is definitely going to make his catches because of his athleticism and height advantage over our DB’s. I think Reed is going to have to keep an eye on Moss at all times.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd put Fabian or Foxworth on Welker I think
Their speed would hopefully neutralize him to some extent. They are not going to beat us by dinking and dunking all game. For that reason I would rather Moss be out. Without him, they should struggle to consistently make big plays down field. As we know, we have no big CB to match up on him down field, which I think presents more of a problem.
Even if they all play, I still like our chances.
by DT711 on Sep 29, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
We match up way better because they have clear cut weaknesses, and we don’t.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Domonique will probably follow Moss
and Fabian should blanket Welker, which leaves the nickel back (Carr?) on Galloway and who (Landry?) on TE Ben Watson.
If the Pats cut Burgess, why not throw him back on our Practice Squad? What have we got to lose by cutting one of the guys on there not as good as him?
Also noticed as well as the o-line did, Oher did better than Gaither did.
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by Bruce Raffel on Sep 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love Burgess back
Screw Tony Moll.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or whoever that tight end was. Curtis? I dont know. I want Burgess back on special teams.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta admit though
we did a bang up job on Cribbs last week, and he was thought to be the biggest threat.
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